Why no Indians ever in DeathList?

[Ulitzer95 12,382]

1 minute ago, arghton said:

So the link on that gives the wrong page. Here's the article for the death of Mata Prasad, Arunachal P governor:

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/former-arunachal-pradesh-governor-mata-prasad-dies-at-95-2355641

So where on Wikipedia is he still marked as alive then?

[Ulitzer95 12,382]

3 hours ago, arghton said:

 

70s/80s Karnataka governor Johti Venkatachalam: Long dead? If she was alive she'd be 104 now.

 

Sometimes looking at the "history" tab of the Wikipedia page is handy. I've killed this woman off several times now, and idiot editors keep changing it back. As per this article from The Hindu she's deceased.

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5 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

So where on Wikipedia is he still marked as alive then?

The guy doesn't seem to have an English Wiki, not sure if he has a page anywhere else,  so I guess nowhere else. Except the page for Arunachal Pradesh Governors on the German wiki, where they also have his birthdate wrong.

[Ulitzer95 12,382]

3 hours ago, arghton said:

Narayan Dutta Ojha was the Governor of Madhya Pradesh in 1987. According to wikipedia he's living, but could he have died off-radar at some point? He'd have to be 96 now. Same for 1980 Odisha governor Sukanta Kishore Ray, who'd be 103 if still alive.

I'll have a proper hunt for evidence of death for these two tonight.

In the meantime, I've moved both to the possibly living category on Wiki. There's no evidence either are alive. It's just yet another case of new pages being created on Wiki by editors who don't really know what they're doing.

S.K. Ray's sister died in 2020, aged 95. It mentions her brother, but annoyingly doesn't state if he's alive. Given that it lists another sister as a survivor though, it kind of infers he's dead, but not strong enough for Wiki standards.

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9 hours ago, arghton said:

Narayan Dutta Ojha was the Governor of Madhya Pradesh in 1987. According to wikipedia he's living, but could he have died off-radar at some point? He'd have to be 96 now. Same for 1980 Odisha governor Sukanta Kishore Ray, who'd be 103 if still alive.

Sukanta Kishore Ray was actually the son of Bira Kishore Ray (1891–1985), who was the first Chief Justice of the Orissa High Court.

Anyway, he died on 23 December 2002, aged 84. Full bio of him here.

[Ulitzer95 12,382]

9 hours ago, arghton said:

Narayan Dutta Ojha was the Governor of Madhya Pradesh in 1987. According to wikipedia he's living, but could he have died off-radar at some point? He'd have to be 96 now. Same for 1980 Odisha governor Sukanta Kishore Ray, who'd be 103 if still alive.

Narayan Dutta Ojha died sometime between 1991 and 2019, as per this news article from April 2019.

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"I remember when I was appointed a judge of Allahabad High Court in 1991, I went to the residence of late Justice N.D. Ojha, who had retired as a Supreme Court judge, and had been my senior when I started law practice, to take his blessings."

I told you I'd kill them both off this evening...

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9 hours ago, arghton said:

Oudh Narayan Shrivastava (1936) Governor of Nagaland 1994-1996, Manipur 1994-1999.

 

Still alive I would say. He published books in 2010 and 2017. In his 2010 book, he gives his own birth as "April 1935".

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9 hours ago, arghton said:

Viswanathan Ratnam (1932) Governor of Himachal Pradesh in 1994. Not sure if alive.

Viswanathan Ratnam died from COVID-19 on 23 May 2020, at the age of 87.

News report here.

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10 hours ago, arghton said:

Dhanik Lal Mandal (1932) Governor of Haryana 1990-1995

Alive in May 2021, though both posts describe him as being in dire health.

Photo of him in hospital, dated 17 May 2021.

News agency Gaam Ghar announcing that he's in ICU, 18 May 2021.

Nothing since then, so presumably made a miraculous recovery, of course.

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10 hours ago, arghton said:

Siddheshwar Prasad (1929) Governor of Tripura 1995-2000.

Alive. Photo of him meeting someone in April 2016. There are also happy birthday posts from January 2022, all referring to him in the present.

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10 hours ago, arghton said:

A. Padmanabhan (1929) Governor of Mizoram 1998-2000. Alive?

He was actually born in December 1928.

Alive. Photo of him from June 2018. Looks pretty good there.

Given his career in the IAS, as well as a prolific author, I doubt he will die off radar.

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On 11/07/2022 at 00:04, arghton said:

 B. C. Khanduri (1934) Uttarakhand CM 2007-2009, 2011-2012. Dropped from a House panel due to ill health in 2019.

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Suresh Mehta (1936) CM of Gujarat 1995-1996

Shürhozelie Liezietsü (1936) Nagaland CM in 2017.

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Mulayam Singh Yadav (1939-2022) Uttar Pradesh CM three times, lots of health issues and hospitalised very frequently. Widowed in 2003 and 2022.

Updated for the death of Mulayam Singh Yadav.

 

A few other mentions:

 

B. C. Khanduri celebrated his 88th birthday ten days ago. He was called a "dying king" in a birthday post of someone who used to work for him so I assume he's not in great health.

Suresh Mehta had multiple surgeries this year according to a post on facebook from May.

Shürhozelie Liezietsü is still very active, will probably die while working

 

 

On 20/02/2022 at 19:15, drol said:

13)Murli Manohar Joshi (1934): Home Affairs minister who has looked half dead for decades.

14)Pratibha Patil (1934): looks very frail in recent photos.

Old rapist home affairs minister Murli Manohar Joshi is mostly wheelchairbound now.

And here's an image of Pratibha Patil yesterday, looks frail but better than I thought. The guy in the other picture is her husband, former First Gentleman of India Devisingh Ransingh Shekhawat, as far as I know the only living former Spouse of a President of India

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Kedar Singh Phonia, Uttar Pradesh tourism, culture and youth affairs minister in Kalyan Singh's govt, dead at 92. One of these many ancient but incredibly tough Indian politicos, he was already on his deathbed four years ago but seemingly recovered.

 

Adding a list of the more minor Indian politicians, those (probably) not mentioned here before and definitely still living born in & before 1930 in the spoiler:

 

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Shobhana Ranade (1924-2024) Gandhian activist.

Ramjee Singh (1927) Decrepit Gandhian and former Member of Parliament.

K. Parasaran (1927) Ancient lawmaker and "God's Advocate"

Vidya Stokes (1927) Himachal Pradesh politician, fell ill in 2018 but seemingly recovered well.

Hari Shankar Bhabhra (1928-2024) Former Deputy CM of Rajasthan.

T. P. Peethambaran (1928) Kerala ancient politician.

O. Rajagopal (1929) Another ancient from Kerala.

Y. P. Trivedi (1929) Former Member of Parliament.

C. H. Hanumantha Rao (1929) Older brother of Vidyasagar Rao.

G. Sanjeeva Reddy (1930) Still active trade unionist boss and politician.

Thennala Balakrishna Pillai (1930) Ancient Kerala INC personality rumored dead in 2021.

Ayinoor Vasu (1930) Kerala activist with an amazing moustache.

Shafiqur Rahman Barq (1930-2024) Obese incumbent member of parliament of samajwadi party

Nabeesa Ummal (1930-2023) CPIM ancient.

 

Musicians and Non-Bollywood actors living, born in & before 1935:

 

Thanga Darlong (1920-2023) Padma Shri recipient, Tripura folk musician who plays ancient instrument Rosem.

Jang Bahadur Singh (1920) Bhojpuri folk singer and wrestler.

T. K. Murthy (1924) Padma Shri recipient, Carnatic musician who plays the ancient percussion instrument Mridangam. Performing since 1934.

Chittajallu Krishnaveni (1924) Telugu actress, producer and playback singer. First credit from 1936. Introduced many stalwart film personalities as she has been a producer since the 1940s. Very underrated and unknown legend of Indian cinema

P. R. Thilagam (1926) Tamil Nadu folk dancer and musician, Padma Shri recipient.

Arvind Parikh (1927) Classical Sitar player, Padma Bhushan recipient.

Ram Narayan (1927) Padma Vibhushan recipient, has played the Sarangi since 1944 and popularised it.

Shanno Khurana (1927) Padma Shri, Padma Bhushan recipient, classical vocalist, musician and composer.

P. K. Narayanan Nambiar (1927-2023) Padma Shri, Mizhavu virtuoso from Kerala.

S. R. Janakiraman (1928) Padma Shri Carnatic vocalist and musician whose big breakthrough happened in 1945. Has a youtube account with home recordings.

Kamala Chakravarty (1928) Tambura player, classical musician, dancer known for her association with Ravi and Uday Shankar.

Prasad Sawkar (1928) Konkani and Marathi classical musician and singer, Padma Shri recipient.

Farida Khanum (1929) Pakistani singer from West Bengal, India so counts half. Called the Queen of Ghazal in both Pakistan and India. Hilal-i-Imtiaz recipient.

Leela Omchery (1929-2023) Kerala classical singer, Padma Shri recipient.

B. S. Saroja (1929) Malayam and Tamil actress who worked with MGR.

K. Viswanath (1930-2023) Massive Telugu screenwriter, actor and director. Recipient of five National Film Awards, seven state Nandi Awards, ten Filmfare Awards South, Filmfare Award in Hindi and Padma Shri.

Vijay Kichlu (1930-2023) Hindu classical musician and singer, Padma Shri.

Mani Prasad (1930-2023) Maharashtra Kirana gharana singer.

Musafir Ram Bhardwaj (1930) Himachal Pradesh musician who plays the Paun Mata. Padma Shri recipient.

Judo. K. K. Rathnam (1930-2023) Tamil, Hindi, Kannada, Malayam and Telugu actor and fight master/action choreographer.

Janak Dave (1930) Gujarat stage actor.

Charuhasan (1931) Tamil, Kannada, Malayam, Telugu and Hindi actor.

Ra. Sankaran (1931-2023) Tamil and Telugu actor and director.

A. K. C. Natarajan (1931) Tamil Carnatic clarinet player.

C. S. Radhadevi (1931) Malayam and Kerala playback singer, dubbing artist, actress and radio artist.

Prabha Atre (1932-2024) Kirana gharana vocalist, recipient of all three Padma awards.

T. V. Gopalakrishnan (1932) Carnatic and Hindustani singer, violinist and mridangist from Kerala. Has performed with people such as George Harrison and Bob Dylan.

Rajeev Taranath (1932-2024) Padma Shri recipient, one of the most known Sarod musicians living.

Anayampatti S. Ganesan (1932) Chennai Carnatic musician who plays the Jal tarang with "a set of 19 antique porcelain bowls from China that are 100 years old"

Thomas Berly (1932) Malayam actor, director, producer, script writer and music composer.

Purna Das Baul Samrat (1933) West Bengal musician and singer who has traveled in 140 countries, throughout the world and presented the Baul tradition. Loved by Mick Jagger and Bob Dylan.

Sulochana Chavan (1933-2022) Marathi Lavani singer.

Vatsala Rajagopal (1933) Tamil actress.

Kamla Srivastava (1933-2024) Uttar Pradesh folk musician

Vijaya Mehta (1934) Marathi director, New Indian Cinema/Parallel Cinema actor.

Sankha Chatterjee (1934) West Bengal Tabla player.

A. P. Komala (1934-2024) Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayam playback singer.

Kumari Kamala (1934) Tamil, Hindu, Telugu and Kannada dancer and actress who performed for Queen Elizabeth II during the coronation festivities.

Padmavathy Ananthagopalan (1934) Carnatic musician, maestro of Saraswati veena, also plays the mridangam and the nagaswaram

M. N. Lakshmi Devi (1934) Kannada actress.

K. G. Jayan (1934-2024) Carnatic musician and Padma Shri recipient.

Vedavalli (1935) Carnatic vocalist

P. Susheela (1935) Andra Pradesh playback singer.

Kaikala Satyanarayana (1935-2022) Telugu actor with hundreds of credits and former Member of Parliament, immortal who survived multiple organ failure and septic shock in 2021.

Guruvayur Dorai (1935) Classical percussionist, mridangam player.

Rudraprasad Sengupta (1935) Bengali actor and director.

Umayalpuram K. Sivaraman (1935) Padma Vibhushan recipient, Mridangam player.

A. V. M. Rajan (1935) Tamil actor.

Birendra Nath Datta (1935-2023) Assam singer and folklorist.

T. P. Madhavan (1935-2024) Malayam actor with over 600 credits.

Nedumangad Sivanandan (1935) Carnatic violinist.

Manik Bhide (1935-2023) Hindustani classical vocalist.

Neela Ramgopal (1935-2023) Tamil carnatic vocalist and author.

Meanwhile for example Bangladesh only has classical vocalist Amaresh Roy Chowdhury (1928), folk singer Shushama Das (1930), Baul folk singer Saidur Rahman Boyati (1931), Masud Ali Khan (1931), sitar player Motiul Haque Khan (1933), Syed Hasan Imam (1935) and Mahbuba Rahman (1935).

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On 04/09/2022 at 00:57, arghton said:

Moulvi Mohammad Abbas Ansari discharged. 

Moulvi Mohammad Abbas Ansari dead.

[arghton 6,607]

Abbas Ansari was the moderate who wanted to end violence in J&K, once said "the Kashmir issue is not a border dispute, but a humanitarian problem. It cannot be solved through gun, but only through negotiations". A much better person than for example SAS Geelani.

 

Old Kerala communist, VS Achuthanandan ally/enemy/friend/comrade M. M. Lawrence doesn't look very great.

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On 14/10/2022 at 13:36, arghton said:

Chittajallu Krishnaveni (1924) Telugu actress, producer and playback singer. First credit from 1936. Introduced many stalwart film personalities as she has been a producer since the 1940s. Very underrated and unknown legend of Indian cinema

Chittajallu Krishnaveni, Giri Babu and the late Sirivennela Seetharama Sastry (1955-2021) received the Sakshi Excellence Award for Lifetime Achievement. Yes, the ceremony is called Sakshi Excellence Awards 2021 but was held two weeks ago.

She produced Mana Desam in 1949, a film that was the debut of actor N. T. Rama Rao (1923-1996), who later became the Andra Pradesh CM. 

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On 20/02/2022 at 19:15, drol said:

1)Yadlapati Venkatarao (1919): Rajya Sabha MP who has been on a wheelchair for years. Lost both his son and wife in 2021.

2)N. Sankaraiah (1921): hardline communist politician and Tamil Nadu MLA.

3)VS Achuthanandan (1923): immortal Kerala communist CM. Stroke in 2018, bad health since, critical condition in 2021, hospitalised with COVID in 2022.

4)R. Nallakannu (1925): Tamil Nadu communist. Hospitalised in 2020, and later survived COVID.

5)Shanti Bhushan (1925): ancient minister of justice who seems to be still very powerful.

6)Sukh Ram (1927): Telecom minister and fraudster who was "in an irreversible coma" in 2012. Obviously he has much improved since being released from jail. Hospitalised in 2021 for a serious urinary tract infection.

7)LK Advani (1927): deputy PM and minister of the interior. Generically frail.

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LK Advani, former deputy PM of India and co-founder of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party visited by Prime Minister Modi as he's 95 today:

Doesn't even look that bad, but I assume the coffin tease phase hasn't started yet.

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On 28/02/2022 at 20:11, arghton said:

Also, here's a list of living(or marked living on wikipedia) notable Indian people born in 1923:

Ones I'm not sure are still alive are in italic

 

Mohan Lall Shrimal (4 January 1923) Former Chief Justice of the Sikkim High Court.

Shantabai Kamble (1 March 1923) Dalit activist, Marathi writer, mother of Arun Krushnaji Kamble (1953-2009)

Rajni Kumar (5 March 1923) British-born Indian educationist, Padma Shri recipient

Lingam Suryanarayana (16 May 1923) Surgeon

Ranajit Guha (23 May 1923) Historian of the Indian subcontinent, influential in SSG.

Sukh Dev (17 June 1923) Academic researcher, organic chemist who contributed to the development of Guggulsterone, Padma Bhushan recipient

Rameshwar Nath "Ramesh" Mehta (7 August 1923) Playwright, director, actor

N. A. Ramaiah (26 August 1923) Physical chemist, former National Sugar Institute director

Ananda Prakash Sen (20 September 1923) Former Justice of the Supreme Court DEAD

Keshub Mahindra (9 October 1923) Mahindra Group Chairman 1963-2012

V. P. Appukutta Poduval (9 October 1923) Independence activist, Gandhian social activist

V. S. Achuthanandan (20 October 1923) Kerala CM 2006-2011.

Avtar Singh Rikhy (23 December 1923) Former Secretary-General of the 6th and 7th Lok Sabja

 

Probably atleast three or four of these are already dead.

British-born Indian educator, philanthropist and founder of Springdales School Padma Shri Rajni Kumar dead at 99.

 

Ancient Sarangi player Pandit Ram Narayan who toured Europe and the US in the 60s looks quite frail in recent pictures.

95 next month and has been obese his whole life.

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On 04/10/2022 at 21:19, Ulitzer95 said:

Alive in May 2021, though both posts describe him as being in dire health.

Photo of him in hospital, dated 17 May 2021.

News agency Gaam Ghar announcing that he's in ICU, 18 May 2021.

Nothing since then, so presumably made a miraculous recovery, of course.

Dhanik Lal Mandal dead at 90.

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Updated the List of Old Indian Governors.

 

SC Jamir was rumored dead yesterday but has already released a video saying he's in good health, saying it's "unfortunate" that people spread rumors about his health.

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On 11/07/2022 at 00:04, arghton said:

Here's a list of current and former Indian Chief Ministers by age, up to 1951. A lot of these have been mentioned here, some a lot, but some haven't. Might've missed some:

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Farooq Abdullah (1937) Former Jammu and Kashmir CM, hospitalised with covid in 2021.

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Farooq Abdullah steps down as President of Jammu Kashmir National Conference very suddenly due to health reasons. Just a few months ago he said that he'd "remain in active politics for more years". A pretty large name in Indian politics and BBC have made articles on him in the past

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On 11/07/2022 at 00:04, arghton said:

Siddaramaiah (1948) Karnataka CM 2013-2018, hospitalisations in 2020 and 2021.

Siddaramaiah reportedly hospitalised with a "lump on his body", to undergo surgery.

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Punjab's political heavyweight and second-oldest living Indian CM Parkash Singh "hospitalised five times this year" Badal made an appearance on his 95th on Thursday. 

Looks the same as usual in this image, but in the videos he either walks assisted by two or more people or uses a wheelchair. Seems to be doing fine for 95 though, and those health issues this year haven't been that serious (asthma, fever, "stomach & chest pain", covid, gastritis, mild heart problems etc.)

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On 14/10/2022 at 13:36, arghton said:

Sulochana Chavan (1933) Marathi Lavani singer.

Marathi singer Sulochana Chavan dead at 89. She was very frail when she received Padma Shri earlier this year. 

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On 02/10/2022 at 16:50, drol said:

Our (second or third) favourite age faker R. Nallakannu hospitalised with fever. Also suffering from kidney infection, but currently stable.

 

Nallakannu is 97 today. Well, "97 today".