DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 17 Would also say it's something that has to come naturally. Which it most certainly did when it comes to Dennis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted July 17 4 hours ago, Comped said: There was some indication from some people I know with parliamentary sources, that apparently a few MPs may have thought about it but decided against it in fear of being compared to Dennis. Fleet may just be a little too new in the seat to be willing to do it, while others in Labor in particular probably felt that it may have underminded the moment. I don't know directly, but all of this seems probably reasonable even in part. Burgon has been compared to Skinner before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerberus 302 Posted August 22 I was wondering why I hadn't seen one of these yet. Perhaps I'll start to see them in my change now, as long as our friends the hoarders don't snap them all up first: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ejnv74dwno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viceroy 13 Posted September 1 I think the next monarchs (since 1066) he overtakes next are King James II and then King Richard III. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,642 Posted October 8 Breaking story right now about him dropping out of COP29 due to "ongoing cancer treatment". He wouldn't do that lightly and I don't buy it's because of something scheduled well in advance – COP is something close to his heart. As I broke the story on his prognosis at the start of the year and said there's a possibility he may not reach Christmas, I think that can be revised now to say he will probably see 2025, but it doesn't feel like he's going to beat this long-term. I think he should be on the 2025 list. 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 174 Posted October 8 He's still doing fantastically well so I'm sure he'll be fine, if a little weaker, long-term. He's a survivor, and his treatment is working. That said, the Queen was first on the list in 1990, so Charles being on next year's wouldn't surprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 8 21 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Breaking story right now about him dropping out of COP29 due to "ongoing cancer treatment". He wouldn't do that lightly and I don't buy it's because of something scheduled well in advance – COP is something close to his heart. As I broke the story on his prognosis at the start of the year and said there's a possibility he may not reach Christmas, I think that can be revised now to say he will probably see 2025, but it doesn't feel like he's going to beat this long-term. I think he should be on the 2025 list. He is still going to Australia and Samoa before then which shows he is most likely going to make 2025 unless he suddenly declines. They don’t seem to preparing the nation for his demise at all even in subtle ways that can’t really be noticed. It will have a large impact His treatment is weekly - some type of Chemo? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted October 8 2 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: Breaking story right now about him dropping out of COP29 due to "ongoing cancer treatment". He wouldn't do that lightly and I don't buy it's because of something scheduled well in advance – COP is something close to his heart. Perhaps the article has been edited since you saw it, but it doesn't read as if he's "dropping out" by choice. "It is understood that the Government has decided not to ask King Charles to represent the country this year. Sources told The Mirror that No10 felt "an abundance of caution" was needed given the monarch's current health battle. They said: "The King will not be going to Cop. He has not been asked by the Government to attend the event and he is also mindful of his own commitments following the upcoming autumn tour." But it's GB News, so not something I'd rely on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,642 Posted October 8 37 minutes ago, Toast said: Perhaps the article has been edited since you saw it, but it doesn't read as if he's "dropping out" by choice. "It is understood that the Government has decided not to ask King Charles to represent the country this year. Sources told The Mirror that No10 felt "an abundance of caution" was needed given the monarch's current health battle. They said: "The King will not be going to Cop. He has not been asked by the Government to attend the event and he is also mindful of his own commitments following the upcoming autumn tour." But it's GB News, so not something I'd rely on. I will remind you that they were the ONLY broadcaster who speculated about the extent of the late Queen’s health, and they were proven correct. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 174 Posted October 8 26 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: I will remind you that they were the ONLY broadcaster who speculated about the extent of the late Queen’s health, and they were proven correct. The Daily Beast did most of the heavy lifting there tbf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,417 Posted October 8 3 hours ago, The Old Crem said: He is still going to Australia and Samoa before then which shows he is most likely going to make 2025 unless he suddenly declines. They don’t seem to preparing the nation for his demise at all even in subtle ways that can’t really be noticed. It will have a large impact His treatment is weekly - some type of Chemo? He is actually pausing his treatment for the 12 days he is away on the Australia and Samoa tour. So yes presume it is scheduled to be weekly treatment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 529 Posted October 8 2 minutes ago, Thatcher said: He is actually pausing his treatment for the 12 days he is away on the Australia and Samoa tour. So yes presume it is scheduled to be weekly treatment. Apparently his own doctors approved it, at least according to what I've seen... Surely they wouldn't if he was in need of it? 3 hours ago, The Old Crem said: They don’t seem to preparing the nation for his demise at all even in subtle ways that can’t really be noticed. It will have a large impact This is key. We haven't heard of a lot of the scurrying about as when his mother was quite ill, like an uptick in training on reporting his death (or a number of reporters keeping around extra black suits more than usual). The papers, even the tabloids, haven't hinted at it, nor have the gossip blinds or sites which Megan would surely leak to if she (or Harry) knew anything was quicker or more serious than we've been told... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,642 Posted October 8 31 minutes ago, mymango said: The Daily Beast did most of the heavy lifting there tbf They're not a broadcaster dear mango. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 8 12 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: dear mango This is the second time in as many weeks my sarcasm-ometer has blown a fuse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 174 Posted October 8 11 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: They're not a broadcaster dear mango. I know that, I just don't think GB News did any original reporting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted October 8 1 hour ago, Comped said: the gossip blinds or sites which Megan would surely leak to if she (or Harry) knew anything was quicker or more serious than we've been told... Those two won't be told anything. The first they knew of Catherine's cancer diagnosis was when it was announced to the general public. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viceroy 13 Posted October 8 It'll be interesting to see whether he manages beats King William IV (7 years) and King-Emperor Edward VII (9 years) in terms of reign, as they too came to the throne at advanced ages for their time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, Toast said: Those two won't be told anything. The first they knew of Catherine's cancer diagnosis was when it was announced to the general public. If rumours about his health has reached @Ulitzer95 I’m sure they have reached them. It’s likely the entire establishment knows and he asitll has many connections. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 529 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, The Old Crem said: If rumours about his health has reached @Ulitzer95 I’m sure they have reached them. It’s likely the entire establishment knows and he asitll has many connections. Yep. And the fact that we haven't heard anything worse implies that we may legitimately be able to take what's been said at face value and believe that his condition has improved like his daughter-in-law's. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted October 9 9 hours ago, The Old Crem said: If rumours about his health has reached @Ulitzer95 I’m sure they have reached them. It’s likely the entire establishment knows and he asitll has many connections. I'm not talking about rumours, I'm talking about real information direct from a family source.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Toast said: I'm not talking about rumours, I'm talking about real information direct from a family source.. Don’t some of the cousins such aa Zara apparently still talk to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted October 9 53 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Don’t some of the cousins such aa Zara apparently still talk to him. I think not any more. Eugenie kept up friendly contact in the beginning, but that seems to have ended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 3 hours ago, Toast said: I think not any more. Eugenie kept up friendly contact in the beginning, but that seems to have ended. Reports this year have suggested some still have some contact but it’s hard to know what exactly is going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: Reports this year have suggested some still have some contact but it’s hard to know what exactly is going on. What reports? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 33 minutes ago, Toast said: What reports? Stuff in various tabloids - reliability obviously has to be questioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
