Philip 121 Posted December 30, 2022 On 15/11/2022 at 02:08, Philip said: Here's my entry. I think half could go easily next year. 1. Rolf Harris 2. Thomas Noguchi 3. Princess Astrid 4. Queen Ratna of Nepal 5. Katherine, Duchess of Kent 6. Jimmy Carter 7. Rupert Murdoch 8. Chuck Grassley 9. Robert Wagner 10. Lord Rodney Elton 11. Glynis Johns 12. Luis Garavito 13. Pele 14. George Alagiah 15. Rosalynn Carter 16. Vera Miles 17. Yoko Ono 18. Frank Field 19. James Watson 20. James Whale 21. Henry Kissinger 22. Pope Benedict Xvi 23. Doddie Weir 24. Barbara Walters 25. Julie Goodyear 26. Jiang Zemin 27. Bob Barker 28. Ethel Kennedy 29. Queen Margrethe of Denmark 30. Constantine ii of Greece 31. Shannen Doherty 32. Mohammed Al Fayed 33. Vic Seixas 34. Shane Macgowan 35. Claude Jarman Jr. 36. Tim Curry 37. Ted Kaczynski 38. Johnny Ruffo 39. Imelda Marcos 40. Patricia Routledge 41. Jean-Marie Le Pen 42. Princess Michael of Kent 43. Dennis Skinner 44. June Spencer 45. Andy Taylor 46. Jake the snake Roberts 47. Mahathir Mohamed 48. Rose West 49. Linda Nolan 50. Wilbur Ross Rob Burrow gianluca vialli and Dianne Feinstein as replacements for Jiang Zemin Doddie Weir and Pele 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted December 30, 2022 The Pele subs are all in. We're at 35 entries added to the TCD23, with 10 more still to be added as it stands. The record was 38! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted December 31, 2022 Benedict was 2nd when he died. Barbara Walters was 15th. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,192 Posted December 31, 2022 @msc Here’s my entry in case you didn’t see it in the 2023 Shadowlist Competition thread. Rolf Harris James Whale Gianluca Vialli Joanne Woodward Nigel Starmer-Smith Milan Kundera George Alagiah Harry Belafonte Glynis Johns Roberta Flack Giorgio Napolitano Joss Ackland Ted Kaczynski Andy Taylor Jimmy Carter Tony Bennett Frank Field (UK politician) Sandy Gall June Spencer Stuart Hall Bob Barker James Watson Henry Kissinger Françoise Hardy Jacques Delors Sandra Day O’Connor Douglas Hurd Ethel Kennedy Vera Miles Robert Wagner Sonny Rollins Yoko Ono Bernadette Chirac Michael Caine Chaim Topol Cleo Laine Bobby Charlton Alberto Fujimori Dennis Skinner King Constantine II Linda Nolan Roy Clarke General Pervez Musharraf Jean-Marie Le Pen Eva Marie Saint James Earl Jones Don King Norman Tebbit Joan Plowright Stanley Baxter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted December 31, 2022 Just now, The Daredevil said: @msc Here’s my entry in case you didn’t see it in the 2023 Shadowlist Competition thread. Yep got another 14 lists to add. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted December 31, 2022 THE TRANSFER WINDOW HAS SLAMMED SHUT. Err, I mean, nominations period for TCD23. The list will be out later on. With 57 folk getting involved, we've smashed the all time record. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,348 Posted December 31, 2022 Shadow List 2023: (Crowdsourced also please) 1)Gianluca Vialli 2)James Whale 3) Jimmy Carter 4) Rolf Harris 5) June Spencer 6) Ryuichi Sakamoto 7) Henry Kissinger 8) Bob Barker 9) Nigel Starmer-Smith 10) Frank Field 11)Sonny Rollins 12) Joanne Woodward 13) Rob Burrow 14) Dick Van Dyke 15) Norman Lear 16)Bobby Charlton 17) Jacques Delors 18)Tony Bennett 19) Ted Turner 20)Eva Marie Saint 21)Glynis Johns 22)Charlie Munger 23) Carolyn Bryant Donham 24) Roberta Flack 25) Betty Boothroyd 26) Doreen Mantle 27)Patricia Routledge 28) Noam Chomsky 29)Jean Marie Le Pen 30) Dennis Skinner 31) Vanessa Redgrave 32)Stanley Baxter 33) Andy Taylor 34) Linda Nolan 35) Shannen Doherty 36)Rhod Gilbert 37) George Alagiah 38) Randy Jackson (American Idol) 39) Douglas Hurd 40)David Attenborough 41)Milan Kundera 42)Mohammed Al-Fayed 43)Teddie Beverley 44)Mel Brooks 45)Sandy Gall 46)Cleo Laine 47)Harry Belafonte 48)Ted Kaczynski 49) Norman Tebbit 50)Shane MacGowan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted December 31, 2022 Bit of controversy on Forums Dot Crowdsourced Deathlist Dot Net tonight, as some of the regulars spotted msc starting new threads for Marianne Faithfull and Johnny Irwin.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,622 Posted December 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, msc said: Bit of controversy on Forums Dot Crowdsourced Deathlist Dot Net tonight, as some of the regulars spotted msc starting new threads for Marianne Faithfull and Johnny Irwin.... It’s my tradition to start new threads in January. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted December 31, 2022 The annual preshow - list up in an hour after main list reveal. DROPPED Milos Zeman, Douglas Hurd, Jake the Snake, Jean Marsh DQS – none! NEAR MISSES – Prunella Scales, Imelda Marcos, Burt Bacharach (each within 5 points of qualifying), Nigel Lawson, Violeta Chamorro, Joss Ackland, Pervez Musharraf, William Russell, Steve McMichael, Cleo Laine LAST MINUTE BANDWAGON TOO LATE – Clint Eastwood, Dennis Skinner, Buzz Aldrin, Robert Wagner (all had big swings in their favour late on, but were too far behind to qualify) 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,601 Posted December 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, msc said: NEAR MISSES – Prunella Scales, Imelda Marcos, Burt Bacharach (each within 5 points of qualifying), Nigel Lawson, Violeta Chamorro, Joss Ackland, Pervez Musharraf, William Russell, Steve McMichael, Cleo Laine Dream blunt rotation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted January 1, 2023 50th David Graham 2nd appearance, 47th last year 391 points Grandpa Pig 49th Duke of Kent NEW 392 points Grand Old Duke 48th Vera Miles NEW 395 points Psycho Star/Gooseberry’s Highlight of 2023 47th James Watson 2nd appearance, 29th last year 397 points Scientist 46th Francoise Hardy 2nd appearance, 33rd last year 407 points Big in France 45th Topol NEW 408 points If He was a rich man…. 44th James Earl Jones NEW 409 points Your FATHER 43rd Norman Lear 2nd appearance, 40th last year 443 points Big in America 42nd Randy Jackson NEW 448 points Not Michael’s Brother 41st Stanley Baxter NEW 448 points Parliamo Deathlisto! 40th Sonny Rollins NEWS 457 points Jazz Man 39th Marianne Faithfull NEW 477 points Singer 38th Ryuichi Sakamoto NEW 486 points Last Christmas, Mr Lawrence 37th Noam Chomsky 2nd appearance, returnee 488 points Rent-a-Cynic 36th David Attenborough NEW 499 points Mr BBC 35th Jacques Delors 2nd appearance, 45th place 511 points Not a Sun Reader 34th Norman Tebbit 2nd appearance, 32nd last year 516 points Sean’s Cuddly Uncle 33rd Giorgio Napolitano NEW 526 points Drol favourite 32nd Shannen Doherty 3rd appearance, 21st last year 528 points Beverly Hills 31st Rob Burrow NEW 534 points Rugby Legend 30th Jean Marie Le Pen NEW 535 points Old Racist 29th Bobby Charlton 2nd appearance, 36th last year 536 points World Cup winner 28th Sandra Day O’Connor NEW 544 points Supreme Court Judge 27th Yoko Ono 4th appearance, 28th last year 552 points Beatles Wife 26th Ted Kaczyinski NEW 560 points Unabomber 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted January 1, 2023 25th Milan Kundera NEW 566 points Stunningly Popular Novelist 24th Constantine II NEW 567 points Frailer than the QE2 (as she is now) 23rd Mel Brooks NEW 573 points Comedy Legend 22nd Andy Taylor NEW 614 points Is there something he should know? 21st Nigel Starmer-Smith NEW 623 points Rugby Commentator 20th Ruth Buzzi NEW 641 points Funny Girl 19th Dick Van Dyke 2nd appearance, 39th last year 681 points Professional Cockney 18th June Spencer 2nd appearance, returnee 736 points Archers Legend 17th Eva Marie Saint 3rd appearance, returnee 769 points Vertigo Star 16th Linda Nolan 4th appearance, 15th last year 799 points Nolan Sister 15th Jonnie Irwin NEW 874 points Man off the Telly 14th Tony Bennett 2nd appearance, 22nd last year 890 points Crooner 13th Rosalynn Carter 5th appearance, 27th last year 915 points Peanut Farmer’s Wife 12th Harry Belafonte 3rd appearance, 17th last year 916 points Singer/Activist 11th Gianluca Vialli NEW 957 points Italy Legend 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted January 1, 2023 10th Frank Field 2nd appearance, 3rd last year 988 points Labour Legend/Contrarian 9th James Whale 3rd appearance, 14th last year 993 points Talksport Host 8th Roberta Flack NEW 1037 points Killing Her Softly 7th Glynis Johns 7th appearance, 9th last year 1084 points Suffragette 6th Joanne Woodward 6th place, 20th last year 1124 points Actress 5th George Alagiah 5th appearance, 7th last year 1246 points BBC Newsreader 4th Henry Kissinger 4th appearance, 13th last year 1285 points Prince of Darkness 3rd Bob Barker 5th appearance, 8th last year 1410 points Quiz Guy 2nd Rolf Harris NEW 1600 points Glastonbury Icon 1970-2013 1st Jimmy Carter 8th appearance, 2nd last year 1807 points Peanuts Farmer 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted January 1, 2023 Here is your complete TCD list for 2023, as voted for by the forum. 1. Jimmy Carter 1807 (8th, 2nd) 2. Rolf Harris 1600 (NEW) 3. Bob Barker 1410 (5th, 8th) 4. Henry Kissinger 1285 (4th, 13th) 5. George Alagiah 1246 (5th, 7th) 6. Joanne Woodward 1124 (6th, 20th) 7. Glynis Johns 1084 (7th, 9th) 8. Roberta Flack 1037 (NEW) 9. James Whale 963 (3rd, 14th) 10. Frank Field 988 (2nd, 3rd) 11. Gianluca Vialli 957 (NEW) 12. Harry Belafonte 916 (3rd, 17th) 13. Rosalynn Carter 915 (5th, 27th) 14. Tony Bennett 890 (2nd, 22nd) 15. Jonnie Irwin 874 (NEW) 16. Linda Nolan 799 (4th, 15th) 17. Eva Marie Saint 769 (3rd, -) 18. June Spencer 736 (2nd, -) 19. Dick van Dyke 681 (2nd, 39th) 20. Ruth Buzzi 641 (NEW) 21. Nigel Starmer Smith 623 (NEW) 22. Andy Taylor 614 (NEW) 23. Mel Brooks 573 (NEW) 24. Constantine II 567 (NEW) 25. Milan Kundera 566 (NEW) 26. Ted Kaczyinski 560 (NEW) 27. Yoko Ono 552 (4th, 28th) 28. Sandra Day O’Connor 544 (NEW) 29. Bobby Charlton 536 (2nd, 36th) 30. Jean marie le pen 535 (NEW) 31. Rob Burrow 534 (NEW) 32. Shannen Doherty 528 (3rd, 21st) 33. Giorgio Napolitano 526 (NEW) 34. Norman Tebbit 516 (2nd, 32nd) 35. Jacques Delors 511 (2nd, 46th) 36. David Attenborough 499 (NEW) 37. Noam Chomsky 488 (2nd, -) 38. Ryuichi Sakamoto 486 (NEW) 39. Marianne Faithfull 477 (NEW) 40. Sonny Rollins 457 (NEW) 41. Stanley Baxter 448 (NEW) 42. Randy Jackson 448 (NEW) 43. Norman Lear 443 (2nd, 40th) 44. James Earl Jones 409 (NEW) 45. Topol 408 (NEW) 46. Francoise Hardy 407 (2nd, 33rd) 47. James Watson 397 (2nd, 29th) 48. Vera Miles 395 (NEW) 49. Duke of Kent 392 (NEW) 50. David Graham 391 (2nd, 47th) 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,356 Posted January 1, 2023 @msc Delighted to see that Vera Miles has finally made it onto the crowdsourced list! I certainly tried my best to promote her! I think she will prove to be a wise choice. Oh I doubt it will change anything much if at all but Anita Pointer has died which brings June Lockhart my sub in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,039 Posted January 1, 2023 Awesome job, msc. The additions seem rather fine to me. We had to replace half of it, always interesting to see who gets traction and who doesn't. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted February 21, 2023 LA DOLCA MORTO 1/50 6th January 2023 Mega-popular football star Gianluca Vialli has died, aged only 58, after a lengthy battle with the dreaded pancreatic cancer. Regarded as a gentleman in the game even by his opponents, he continued to fund his charity for ALS support even as he lay on his own deathbed. Vialli launched his career at Cremonese, but he became internationally known for his time at Sampdoria, where he helped the team win their only Serie A title, and took them to the European Cup final. Again, Sampdoria. In a European Cup final. It was at I Blucerchiati that Vialli formed his partnership with Robert Mancini, first as a formidable team on the pitch, and later as the great bromance of Italian football, with the two friends inseparable for the next near 40 years. Vialli won the Cup Winners Cup with Sampdoria, before a move to Juventus, where he finally got his hands on the Champions League itself. He wound in England, playing for Chelsea and in 1998, the nouveau riche (even before Abramovich) club asked him to be a very rare English top flight player-manager. In those days, Chelsea had only won five trophies in a century. Gianluca Vialli saw that challenge, and proceeded to win five trophies in two years. This was 50% of their entire Cabinet before Russian money took over, for the record. Vialli was sacked, somewhat prematurely, in 2000, but he remained a Chelsea fan favourite for the rest of his life. Vialli slid into a role as an insightful TV pundit, while investing in interests and running his charity, but in 2019 he took a role in best friend Robert Mancini’s Italy coaching team, as Italy won their first European Championship since the 1960s. But even at that point, in summer 2021, he knew he was on borrowed time. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted February 21, 2023 EXILED FROM LIFE 2/50 (What do you mean, it's the wrong guy?) 10th January 2022 When Constantine II was unable, due to health, to make Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral in September, the royal ambulance chasers knew something was amiss. And so he debuted on The Crowdsourced Deathlist, only to decide he didn’t want to stay a mere ten days into the year. Constantine was King of Greece from 1964 until 1973. When the Colonels Coup happened in 1967, Constantine was forced to accept their rule and rush off to exile. In his absence, the junta abolished the monarchy. When they were ousted, Constantine returned, only to find that a referendum backed the continued abolition of his job. To his credit, he publicly supported the new republic, and eventually he returned to Greece for good where he was viewed as a historical curiosity. He suffered from heart issues in later life, and a bout of covid last night didn’t help. He was eighty-two and the second hit from this years selection. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,615 Posted April 27, 2023 Harry Belafonte is the first hit here for someone who was not a new entry in this year's list 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted May 13, 2023 CHAIM TOPOLS 3/50 8th March 2023 Popular Israeli heavyweight actor Topol has died, after a period of ill health, to provide The Crowdsourced Deathlist with another success. Topol had gained a stellar reputation as a theatre and musicals actor in the 1960s, touring with with the Batzal Yarok, before moving to cinema in the mid-60s. His breakthrough role was that of Tevye, star of Fiddler on the Roof, which he played on Broadway and in the 1971 film. His musical background allowed the full baritone of If I Was a Rich Man to liven the screen. This gave him international recognition and he would take on important roles in Flash Gordon and the James Bond flick For Your Eyes Only. Although, in the latter, the reveal Topol is actually the good guy all along would work better if the reveal wasn’t just him telling us! He remained a TV and film regular, but it was the stage that he loved most, playing at all the great theatres in a variety of roles, from Tevye to Shakespeare, until his health declined. This was his first appearance on the list. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted May 13, 2023 MERRY FUNERAL, MR LAWRENCE 4/50 28th March 2023 Japanese composer Ryuichi Sakamoto has sadly died after a long battle with cancer, to give The Crowdsourced Deathlist a melancholic success. Sakamoto made his career as part of the Yellow Magic Orchestra, the 70s electronic band. He died weeks after his fellow bandmate Yukihiro Takahashi. He moved equally free in classical and film composing circles, and his opus, the score for Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence, won him the Oscar. In David Bowie’s iconoclastic World War Two tale of forbidden gay love in a prisoner of war camp, Sakamoto, in his acting debut, played the role of Bowie’s romantic interest with a noble gravitas, while refusing to whitewash the Japanese war experience. It was a complex role vastly more experienced actors would have struggled with. From there, Sakamoto was the composer for the opening ceremony of the Barcelona Olympics, gained the first Japanese number one instrumental track, and his film work included The Last Emperor and The Revenant. He was also an outspoken defender of musicians getting proper royalties for their work, and a renowned anti-nuclear activist in his homeland. Even as he slowly lost a lengthy battle with cancer, he continued his life long environmentalism campaigning from his own bedroom, sending letters in support of various movements. A winner of the Oscar, the Grammy, the Golden Globe, the BAFTA, as well as having acting acclaim, and international chart success, the widely popular Ryuichi Sakamoto packed a lot into his 71 years on the planet, and we mourn his loss. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted May 13, 2023 HARRY’S ODDS AGAINST TOMORROW GRIM 5/50 25th April 2023 Film, music and civil rights icon Harry Belafonte has died to give a heavyweight success to The Crowdsourced Deathlist. Belafonte’s legendary career began in the 1940s as a New York club singer, but a friendship with Miles Davis and Charlie Parker launched his pop career. It wasn’t until Calypso in 1956 that he achieved world wide fame, selling more than 1 million copies that year, and launching Day-O and Jamaica Farewell on the public conscience. His musical career stretched over seventy years, during which time he worked with Dylan, Sinatra, the Beatles, and, most importantly of all, Kermit the Frog. He also sang during the inauguration of President Kennedy. His film career was equally important. Carmen Jones was one of the first American films co-starred by two lead black actors. In 1950s America, he took on interracial romance in Island in the Sun, and racism and crime in Odds Against Tomorrow. But while he became a favourite of Hollywood subversives like Otto Preminger, Belafonte was not afraid to call out his friends – he turned down Preminger’s offer of Porgy and Bess, citing it being a racial stereotype. In recent years he appeared in BlackKkKlansman, the Spike Lee film. Yet his humanitarian career dwarfed even those solid legacies. An protégé at an early age of Paul Robeson, Harry Belafonte had already been blacklisted by the McCarthy witch hunts in the 1950s, before he became friends and allies with Martin Luther King. He raised money for King’s marches, he bailed King out of jail, he promoted civil rights on every platform he stood. He was an early public voice against South African apartheid, a lifelong promoter of UNICEF, and a frequent critic of hawk government policies. When told his views on the Bush government were unpatriotic, he said that dissent is crucial to democracy. Harry Belafonte was ninety-six. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted May 23, 2023 Rolf Harris dead 6/50 23rd May 2023 Remember when Rolf Harris was a universally beloved kids TV entertainer? Clorox doesn't. This is partly because Clorox is bloody young. But mostly because Rolf torpedoed all that reputation a decade ago, when he was revealed to have been a serial abuser of young children. This is already more words than Ian Brady and Pope Benedict got, but less than Henry Kissinger will get when he goes...any day now. This is the first time Rolf Harris was picked for the Crowdsourced list, because its the first time anyone thought the old fucker was going to die. Which he has. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clorox Bleachman 2,471 Posted May 23, 2023 49 minutes ago, msc said: Remember when Rolf Harris was a universally beloved kids TV entertainer? Clorox doesn't. This is partly because Clorox is bloody young. But mostly because Rolf torpedoed all that reputation a decade ago, when he was revealed to have been a serial abuser of young children. OBJECTION! I wasn't born yesterday (but continue pointing to me as the stereotypical zoomer because it's funny). Around 2009/10 he was on a show like Top Gear or The One Show. He was showing off the wobble board to the young viewers. My dad then went on YouTube and showed me clips of him, which he also did with The Two Ronnies, Monty Python, etc. He looked a lot like my grandad who was the same age. Up until Yewtree it was hard to miss him. He soured way more than one generation's childhood memories. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
