The Alive List

[Prophet 251]

You chose 40 candidates with health issues or who are just extremly old and the one with the least deaths this year wins the game. There are special rules for your first 15 candidates to make it a little bit more fun which are listed below. The game starts on 1 February 2023, you can either send me your list in a PM or post it in this thread.

Rules:

- First off all, all candidates have to be known for other reasons than just their age or health issues, they must be at least 18

- The first five candidates must be centenarians (born 1923 or before)

- The next five candidates must be at least 95 (born 1928 or before) but you can also chose another few centenarians if you like to or mix it

- The next three candidates must have Stage IV Cancer or Cancer classified as terminal, a Glioblastoma of any grade also counts

- The next two candidates must have ALS

You can chose the other 25 candidates freely but one of the following requirements must be fullfilled by them:

- All of the requirements I mentioned for the first 15 candidates can be also used for the next candidates that you can freely chose

- They're at least 90 (born 1933 or before)

- They had pancreatic cancer in the past of any stage or a brain tumor in the past three years which wasn't/isn't benign

- They currently have Stage 3 cancer

- They have Chronic Leukemia and are over 75 (born 1947 or before)

- They have Parkinson and are over 85 (born 1937 or before), the age requirement is only 70 (born 1953 ot before) for people who have Parkinson for at least 10 years

- They have dementia and are over 65 (born 1957 or before)

- They have diabetes and are over 80 (born 1942 or before)

- They had a stroke in the past three years if they're at least 70 (born 1953 or before) or in the last five years if they're at least 80 (born 1943 or before)

- They had a heart attack in the past two years if they're at least 80 (born 1943 or before), or if they're at least 75 (born 1948 or before) but had two or more additional heart attacks in the past 15 years

- They were hospilazed for pneumonia or other infections in the last 12 months and are at least 85 (born 1938 or before)

- They're severly obese and are over 85 (born 1937 or before)

- They have a terminal liver, lung, heart or kidney disease which can cause death

- You can chose up to 5 people who don't fulfill one of the age or duration requirements but they still have to have one of the conditions that I mentioned above except obesity and diabetes where we go strictly by age limit

 

Sorry for my bad english which isn't the yellow from the egg. If I a made grammar or spelling mistake you can feel free to correct me.

 

[ladyfiona 2,577]

Blimey my research on conditions such as stage 4 cancer and ALS will be interesting.

[Prophet 251]

8 minutes ago, ladyfiona said:

Blimey my research on conditions such as stage 4 cancer and ALS will be interesting.

There is a list on Wikipedia for people with motor neurone diseases which might be helpful if you want to participate. For cancer sufferers you can just search for ,,has terminal cancer" or ,,has stage iv cancer" on Google news and than you'll can find more than enough candidates who would qualify. Stage IV cancer is just cancer that has spread into other organs so there are many cases.

[Sir Creep 7,070]

In before it’s locked.

[Lafaucheuse 4,045]

That’s actually not a bad idea. You will have a lot of work to do making sure all the candidates meet the required criteria though 

[Prophet 251]

1 minute ago, Lafaucheuse said:

That’s actually not a bad idea. You will have a lot of work to do making sure all the candidates meet the required criteria though 

That's easy research and most people who want to join will just pick some random oldies.

[ladyfiona 2,577]

Might suggest you put two extra posts in. One for masterlist and one for scoreboard. That way it's on the first page so people (and you) have easy reference.

[Prophet 251]

Lists:

[Prophet 251]

Scoreboard:

[arghton 6,701]

Trying this, but I probably won't do very well. Many names I have used somewhere else. I hope these are acceptable, thank you for hosting

 

1. María Isabel Rodríguez

2. Wei Wei

3. Zou Yu

4. Phyllis Latour

5. Michael Loewe

6. Valdas Adamkus

7. Aira Samulin

8. Juan Ponce Enrile

9. L.K. Advani

10. Mengesha Seyoum

11. Jonnie Irwin (terminal lung cancer)

12. Cynthia Mulligan (stage IV breast cancer)

13. Gary Glenn (stage IV prostate cancer)

14. Jason Becker (ALS)

15. Tempt One/Tony Quan (graffiti artist, ALS)

16. Vytautas Landsbergis (90 or something and also had a pneumonia hospitalisation a while back)

17. Ilia II of Georgia (parkinson's and 90)

18. Harald V (hospitalised with infection last year) 

19. Chiam See Tong (parkinsons for a few decades)

20. Maria Nyerere 

21. William Roache

22. Olusegun Obasanjo (diabetes)

22. Alan Alda (parkinsons)

23. James Earl Jones (diabetes)

24. Vigdís Finnbogadóttir

25. Than Shwe (diabetes)

26. Anastasios of Albania

27. Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati 

28. Warren Buffett

29. Henepola Gunaratana

30. DD Lapang (qualifies to the obese rule?)

31. Princess Mette-Marit (pulmonary fibrosis, qualifies under terminal lung disease?)

32. Ram Narayan

33. Parkash Singh Badal

34. Choe Yong-rim

35. Sam Nujoma

36. Yoshiro Nakamatsu

37. Bibhash Chakraborty (85, heart attack/cardiac arrest in December 2022)

38. Win Htein (diabetes)

39. Juha Väätäinen (stroke in 2022)

40. Ong Pang Boon

 

 

[Prophet 251]

@arghton @wannamaker

First of all, thanks for the people who've already send their lists. Of course there are still a few days left for other users who want to participate in this game so there is no time to hurry.

My second point is that I've noticed is that the players who send me their lists so far haven't made use of one of their five age/duration exceptions they could theoretically use for most diseases I've listed. I've added this last rule about a hour before I received the first list to make it a little bit more easier for users who don't want to research for hours in order to complete the list but still want to have a few good unique picks instead of chosing 25 random oldies. As the host of this game I want to play fair so I haven't made use of this rule as well but if you want to replace five names with younger candidates who still have one of the conditions that you are allowed to pick from you can feel free to do so. We can also abolish this special rule if you like, I'm quite flexible in this regard.

My third point is that it would be very nice if arghton would post one or two subs for each category (the centenarians, the nonagarians, the cancer sufferers, the ALS picks and the candidates you picked freely) in case one of his candidates dies before the starting line but that's not absolutely necessarily as we can also discuss this scenario when it happens

I will do the Masterlist when my computer is fixed which I currently can't charge.

 

Here's my list:

1. Roland Dumas

2. Henry Kissinger, turns 100 in October but we go by birth years as mentioned above

3. Hazel McCallion

4. Norman Lear

5. Glynis John

6. Hans Modrow

7. Kim Yong-nam

8. Dick Van Dyke

9. Mel Brooks

10. Ruth Westheimer

11. Wolfgang Bosbach, has Stage IV Prostate Cancer for a decade now and doesn't seem to die 

12. Edward Stourton

13. Rainer Langhans

14. Roberta Flack, has ALS and is obviously very old which gives her a very low life expectancy so she's probably my riskiest pick

15. Marcus Stewart, has ALS since September 2022

16. Michael Caine

17. Rupert Murdoch

18. Ottfried Fischer, has Parkinson for over 20 years

19. Billy Connolly

20. Gunther von Hagens, got parkinson for over 10 years so he's within the second age limit I mentioned

21. Tony Christie 

22. Mario Adorf

23. Sue Lopez, got dementia

24. Buzz Aldrin

25. Eric Idle, had a surgery for pancreatic cancer

26. Karl Heinz Hoffmann, former german right-wing terrorist who had a stroke last year and is still in hospital

27. Prunella Scales

28. William Shatner

29. June Squibb

30. Noam Chomsky

31. Pat Robertson

32. Fedez (Rapper)

33. Loni Anderson, has COPD

34. George Soros

35. Patricia Routledge

36. Chuck Grassley

37. Dianne Feinstein

38. Freddy Quinn

39. Dennis Skinner

40. Linda Ronstadt, I counted PSP as a form of dementia as it's a neurodegenerative disorder that's often confused with FTD or Parkinson, if anyone here thinks it's unfair that I chose her than just write that and I'll replace her with a sub

Subs:

Centenarians= Traute Lavrenz, Margot Friedländer

Nonagarians= Gudrun Ure

Cancer Sufferers= Janey Godley, Linda Nolan

ALS= Rob Burrow

Regulars= James Watson

 

You do not have name the diseases in your lists by the way, that's my job, I only listed them because I want to be transparent as the host

[arghton 6,701]

Subs as requested

 

Centenarians: Ma Shitu, Arch Jelley

Nonagenarians: Raimo Ilaskivi, Cleopa Msuya

Terminal cancer: Linda Nolan

ALS: Daniel L. Doctoroff, John Driskell Hopkins

Free picks: Arnold Rüütel, Kimura Shōnosuke XXVII

[ladyfiona 2,577]

Ah I forgot about this for a few days and realised it's close to needing to submit everything. I'll DM you by end of the day as i'm mostly done.

[ladyfiona 2,577]

I don't know if this is still going ahead but I had Burt Bacharach in the at least 95 quota. I submitted before deadline but here are my people:

 

Centenarians

 

Bob Barker

June Spencer

Janis Paige

Virginia Halas McCaskey

Iris Apfel

 

At least 95

 

Dick van Dyke

Burt Bacharach

Geoff Brown – Tennis player (Two wiki pages?)

Tomiichi Murayama

Jacqueline Ceballos

 

Stage IV Cancer or Cancer classified as terminal

 

- Mark Pilgrim, Janey Godley, Shannen Doherty

 

Have ALS

 

  - Roberta Flack, Tim Green (American Football)

 

Other 25

 

Billy Connolly - 80 (Parkinson’s)

Derek Martin – 89 (actor) (obese)

Tony Caunter – 85 (actor) (obese)

Kareem Abdul Jabbar  -75 (Chronic Myeloid Leukaemia)

Michael J. Fox – 61 (Parkinson’s)

Christy Turlington -54 (COPD – lung disease)

Andrew Simmons – 38 (wrestler) (Cystic Fibrosis - lung disease)

Ozzy Osbourne - 74 (Parkinson’s)

Damar Hamlin - 23 (Cardiac Arrest)

Steven Spielberg – 76 (Chronic Kidney Disease)

James Earl Jones – 92 (Diabetes)

Britt Mchenry - 36 (Brain Tumour)

Johnny Ruffo – 34 (Brain Tumour)

Michael Tilson Thomas – 78 (Brain Tumour)

Derek Draper – 55 (long covid complications – respiratory I guess)

Tony Christie - 79 (Dementia)

Ron Jeremy – 69 (Dementia)

Bruce Willis – 67 (Dementia - Aphasia)

Eric Idle – 79 (Pancreatic Cancer)

Ruschell Boone – 48 (Pancreatic Cancer)

Patsy Kensit – 54 (Pneumonia)

Chris Ellison – 76 (Dementia - Aphasia)

Jo Wilson - 37 (presenter) (Stage 3 cancer)

Malandra Burrows - 57 (Stage 3 cancer)

Ken Watanabe – 63 (Acute Myeloid Leukemia)

 

[Prophet 251]

11 minutes ago, ladyfiona said:

I don't know if this is still going ahead but I had Burt Bacharach in the at least 95 quota.

Yes, I'm still doing this but to fix my computer is taking a bit longer than I expected

[diego 1,980]

I wanted to participate in all the competitions this year, but I missed this one because I didn't see this one in time, I thought they had already started when this one started 

[ladyfiona 2,577]

Don't know if anyone is still doing this but these people have died on my list:

• Bob Barker
• Burt Bacharach 
• Mark Pilgrim
• Ruschell Boone

 

Question mark about my Geoff Brown (Tennis player) submission because I just found two different Wikipedia's for same person. One saying he died 20 years ago.

[Prophet 251]

@arghton@wannamaker@ladyfiona

Hello, I know it's a little bit late, and I have been procrastinating a lot (I would have done it a lot sooner if my PC had gotten fixed earlier), but here are finally the results of the Alive List. I'm currently sick, so I thought this would be the perfect time to complete this project.

Ladyfiona could be leading if Geoff Brown is still alive, which is highly unlikely, as there is a 22-year-old obituary of him circulating on the internet with a different birth date than in his public records, but the same wife nonetheless. So, I count him as dead for now. The rest of us all have only 44 folks alive, so the difference would be marginal anyway, and the flu season could change the outcome quite a bit. There is time until December 31.

With kind regards,

Maybe the worst host in all of Deathlist Forum History and certainly the laziest.

 

Lists:

Argthon (34/40):

1. María Isabel Rodríguez

2. Wei Wei (2 November 2023)

3. Zou Yu

4. Phyllis Latour (7 October 2023)

5. Michael Loewe

6. Valdas Adamkus

7. Aira Samulin (23 October 2023)

8. Juan Ponce Enrile

9. L.K. Advani

10. Mengesha Seyoum

11. Jonnie Irwin

12. Cynthia Mulligan

13. Gary Glenn (27 July 2023)

14. Jason Becker

15. Tempt One/Tony Quan (1 September 2023)

16. Vytautas Landsbergis

17. Ilia II of Georgia

18. Harald V

19. Chiam See Tong

20. Maria Nyerere

21. William Roache

22. Olusegun Obasanjo

22. Alan Alda

23. James Earl Jones

24. Vigdís Finnbogadóttir

25. Than Shwe

26. Anastasios of Albania

27. Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati

28. Warren Buffett

29. Henepola Gunaratana

30. DD Lapang

31. Princess Mette-Marit

32. Ram Narayan

33. Parkash Singh Badal (25 April 2023)

34. Choe Yong-rim

35. Sam Nujoma

36. Yoshiro Nakamatsu

37. Bibhash Chakraborty

38. Win Htein

39. Juha Väätäinen

40. Ong Pang Boon

Ladyfiona (34/40):

1. Bob Barker (26 August 2023)

2. June Spencer

3. Janis Paige

4. Virginia Halas McCaskey

5. Iris Apfel

6. Dick van Dyke

7. Burt Bacharach (8 February 2023)

8. Geoff Brown (Tennis player) (20 June 2001)

9. Tomiichi Murayama

10. Jacqueline Ceballos

11. Mark Pilgrim (5 March 2023)

12. Janey Godley

13. Shannen Doherty

14. Roberta Flack

15. Tim Green (American Football)

16. Billy Connolly

17- Derek Martin

18. Tony Caunter

19. Kareem Abdul Jabbar

20. Michael J. Fox

21. Christy Turlington

22. Andrew Simmons

23. Ozzy Osbourne

24. Damar Hamlin

25. Steven Spielberg

26. James Earl Jones

27. Britt Mchenry

28. Johnny Ruffo (10 November 2023)

29. Michael Tilson Thomas

30. Derek Draper

31. Tony Christie

32. Ron Jeremy

33. Bruce Willis

34. Eric Idle

35. Ruschell Boone (3 September 2023)

36. Patsy Kensit

37. Chris Ellison

38. Jo Wilson

39. Malandra Burrows

40. Ken Watanabe

Prophet (34/40):

1. Roland Dumas

2. Henry Kissinger (29 November 2023)

3. Traute Lavrenz (6 March 2023)

4. Norman Lear (5 December 2023)

5. Glynis Johns

6. Hans Modrow (10 February 2023)

7. Kim Yong-nam

8. Dick Van Dyke

9. Mel Brooks

10. Ruth Westheimer

11. Wolfgang Bosbach

12. Edward Stourton

13. Rainer Langhans

14. Roberta Flack

15. Marcus Stewart

16. Michael Caine

17. Rupert Murdoch

18. Ottfried Fischer

19. Billy Connolly

20. Gunther von Hagens

21. Tony Christie

22. Mario Adorf

23. Sue Lopez

24. Buzz Aldrin

25. Eric Idle

26. Karl Heinz Hoffmann

27. Prunella Scales

28. William Shatner

29. June Squibb

30. Noam Chomsky

31. Pat Robertson (8 June 2023)

32. Fedez (Rapper)

33. Loni Anderson

34. George Soros

35. Patricia Routledge

36. Chuck Grassley

37. Dianne Feinstein (29 September 2023)

38. Freddy Quinn

39. Dennis Skinner

40. Linda Ronstadt

Wannamaker (34/40):

1. Al Jaffee (10 April 2023)

2. Anthony Epstein

3. Iris Apfel

4. Phillipe de Gaulle

5. Ray Anthony

6. Rosemary Harris

7. Alan Greenspan

8. Dick van Dyke

9. Thomas Noguchi

10. Cleo Laine

11. Kate Keltie

12. Shannen Doherty

13. Johnny Ruffo (10 November 2023)

14. John Driskell Hopkins

15. Ed Slater

16. Piper Laurie (14 October 2023)

17. John Williams

18. Valentino (Fashion Designer)

19. Prunella Scales

20. Robert Duvall

21. Hal Linden

22. William Shatner

23. Raúl Castro

24. Alice Munro

25. Rita Moreno

26. John Astin

27. Alan Oppenheimer

28. Clint Eastwood

29. Warren Buffett

30. Bernie Ecclestone

31. Alejandro Jodorowsky

32. Frank Gehry

33. Betty Boothroyd (26 February 2023)

34. Desmond Morris

35. Tom Lehrer

36. Burt Bacharach (8 February 2023)

37. George Chakiris

38. Jorge Edwards (17 March 2023)

39. Arthur Fry

40. Don King

Scoreboard:

8 February: Burt Bacharach (Ladyfiona, Wannamaker)

26 February: Betty Boothroyd (Wannamaker)

10 February: Hans Modrow (Prophet)

5 March: Mark Pilgrim (Ladyfiona)

6 March: Traute Lavrenz (Prophet)

17 March: Jorge Edwards (Wannamaker)

10 April: Al Jaffee (Wannamaker)

25 April: Parkash Singh Badal (Arghton)

8 June: Pat Robertson (Prophet)

27 July: Gary Glenn (Arghton)

26 August: Bob Barker (Ladyfiona)

1 September: Tempt One/Tony Quan (Arghton)

3 September: Ruschell Boone (Ladyfiona)

29 September: Dianne Feinstein (Prophet)

7 October: Phyllis Latour (Arghton)

14 October: Piper Laurie (Wannamaker)

23 October: Aira Samulin (Arghton)

2 November: Wei Wei (Arghton)

10 November: Johnny Ruffo (Ladyfiona, Wannamaker)

29 November: Henry Kissinger (Prophet)

5 December: Norman Lear (Prophet)