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Shadow DeathList Competition 2025

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Note for early submissions: You can edit your list before 1st of January no problem. I will check and compile and put all the lists into the "ShadowList Table" on January 1st, so any edits in 2025 just let us know. All edits should be done in good faith, and no one has taken advantage of this leniency yet. 

 

Do you consider yourself a champion DeathLister who can do better than the DeathList Committee?

 

Here are the rules & guidelines:

  • Have a list of 50 celebrities chosen by yourself, for their likelihood to die in 2025. Include up to five subs.
  • Submit your list neatly. A numbered list of correctly spelled names would be great. Extra details would only be needed if there's another celebrity with that name. Try not to include funny formatting as it makes pasting it more painful. Type your numbers rather than have them automatically formatted in gives me one less job
  • Candidates must be famous enough that their death is confidently expected to be reported by any countries media
    I will usually provide a judgement call or ask for some opinions in the forum. 
    We won't challenge names until after their death. 
  • Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die imminently - this includes people famous only for their advanced age, or for being the oldest survivor of something. If you think your name doesn't apply to this, just have a convincing argument. 
  • Names on the scoreboard will only count AFTER you submit your list. If you submitted your list on the main Shadow Lists Forum or another similar forum late this may be taken into consideration. 
    Late submissions and private messages to me are also considered
  • Play, participate, and comment in good faith
  • Don't be a dick
  • Being reminded more than once of a rule may result in being sent to Siberia

 

There's no deadline on submitting a list, posting your list here is preferred. No late submissions should be using information from 2025 that wasn't available to those who submitted their list in 2024 (good faith). (You can post your list on January 3rd and I couldn't give a heck - but if it includes someone whose cancer diagnosis was announced on January 2nd or who died on January 2nd, that might be brought into question)

 

Private messages:

  • Private message lists will be publicly posted on or after the 1st of January for transparency. If you send it through direct message, I and others running this pool may open and see your list before the 1st of January - this isn't to steal or borrow ideas, but to paste your list onto my own masterlist of entries. If this bothers you, then just delay sending it until the 1st of January, or just post your own list onto this forum publicly on the 1st of Jan. 

 

Things to keep in mind about any person you choose:

  • Are they likely to obit in a major newspaper? 
  • Are they a well known celebrity? 
  • Do they have a Wikipedia page in any language (that clearly wasn't made just for DeathListing)
     

You will not be asked to prove any of these when you post your list, but upon your candidates death you may need to meet some of these criteria.

 

Scoring System:

  • One Death = One Point

 

All lists, comments, and discussions should be made in good faith, I will try and act in good faith as well. 

 

Please feel free to announce deaths, especially obscure ones! I pick up names of everyone who dies in the Derby Dead Pool through Who's Dead So Far so if they're already on there your message may be redundant

I make mistakes and am human, but will keep a log of everything as I score it through commenting and on the first page. Please feel comfortable to point out any mistakes I make along the way

 

Last year this tournament was kept alive by dimreaper and polar duck in both public posts and private messages, their understanding of the rules is pristine. Any post or amendment made by them is pretty official

 

Happy DeathListing

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Here is my Shadow Deathlist Competition 2025 entry: Thanks for hosting this wonderful pool again @John Key

 

1) Jimmy Carter 

2) Black Bart

3) Noam Chomsky 

4) Joanne Woodward 

5) Len Deighton 

6) Frankie Valli 

7) Johnnie Walker 

8) Liza Minnelli 

9) Jean Marsh 

10) Geoffrey Boycott 

11) Julie Goodyear 

12) Michael Schumacher 

13) Tom Brokaw 

14) Linda Nolan 

15) Tippi Hedren 

16) Jean-Marie Le Pen 

17) Willie Nelson 

18) James Watson 

19) Nigel Starmer-Smith 

20) Alan Greenspan 

21) Esther Rantzen 

22) Stanley Baxter 

23) Imelda Marcos 

24) Prunella Scales 

25) Rex Williams 

26) Sonny Rollins 

27) Ruth Buzzi 

28) Ted Turner

29) Denis Law 

30) Yoko Ono 

31) Steve McMichael 

32) Frank Gehry 

33) Gene Hackman 

34) Roberta Flack 

35) Warren Buffett 

36) Joan Plowright 

37) Don King 

38) Buzz Aldrin 

39) Tim Curry 

40) Norman Tebbit 

41) Katherine Jackson 

42) Dennis Skinner 

43) Rupert Murdoch 

44) Tinto Brass 

45) Sidney Cooke 

46) Cleo Laine 

47) Eva Marie Saint 

48) Wendy Williams 

49) Mitch McConnell 

50) Pope Francis

 

Subs:

Douglas Hurd 

James Whale

Michael Tilson Thomas 

Sandy Gall

Vera Miles 

 

I also posted this in the Shadow List thread.

Best of luck in 2025 everyone as I think we are going to be far busier in 2025 than what we have been in 2024. 

 

 

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1- Jimmy Carter

2- Nigel Starmer Smith

3- Harvey Weinstein

4- Nigel McCrery

5- Sidney Cooke

6- Prunella Scales

7- Esther Rantzen

8- Jean Marie Le Pen

9- Dick Van Dyke

10- Noam Chomsky

11- Linda Nolan

12- Salman Bin Abdulaiz Al Saud

13- Caren Marsh Doll

14- Paul Biya

15- Jose Mujica

16- Jacqueline White

17- Elisabeth Waldo

18- Russel M Nelson

19- Song Ping

20- David Irving

21- Stanley Baxter

22- Steve McMichael

23- Bruce Willis

24- Gene Hackman

25- Tom Brokaw

26- David Attenborough

27- Norman Tebbit

28- Mel Brooks

29- Alan Greenspan

30- Ruth Buzzi

31- Josef Fritzl

32- Dennis Skinner

33- Mitch McConnell

34- Jack Hanna

35- Tippi Hedren

36- Mahathir Mohamad

37- Doc Severinsen

38- Pope Francis

39- Tom Leher

40- Ted Turner

41- Bobby Vinton

42- Liza Minelli

43- Imelda Marcos

44- Erik Jensen

45- Ricky Tomilson

46- Isabel Peron

47- Don King

48- Katherine Jackson

49- Mike Peters

50- A.J. Foyt

 

Reserves-

 

1- Emperor Akhito

2- Yoko Ono

3- Joe Biden

 

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1) Guillermo Rodriguez Lara
2) Buzz Aldrin
3) Joan Plowright
4) David Attenborough
5) Berry Gordy
6) Dick Van Dyke
7) Tippi Hedren
8) Isabel Peron
9) Bernie Ecclestone
10) Pete Wilson
11) Marita Camacho Quiros
12) Peter Yarrow
13) Judith Magre
14) Jimmy Carter
15) Vanessa Redgrave
16) Lula da Silva
17) Anne Vernon
18) Ted Bassett (executive)
19) John Astin
20) Ip Chun
21) David H. Murdock
22) Marianne Bernadotte
23) Rupert Murdoch
24) William Daniels
25) Bonnie Bartlett
26) Alexander Butterfield
27) Hans Blix
28) Pete Murray
29) Maurice R. Greenberg
30) Joseph Kerwin
31) William Smithers
32) Sam Nujoma
33) Raul Castro
34) Vytautas Landsbergis
35) Khamtai Siphandone 
36) Mahathir Mohamad
37) Valdas Adamkus
38) Raif Dizdarević
39) Violeta Chamorro
40) Abdoulaye Wade
41) Efraín Goldenberg
42) José Mujica
43) Emperor Akihito
44) Tomiichi Murayama
45) Imelda Marcos
46) Clint Eastwood
47) Yoko Ono
48) Noam Chomsky
49) Stanley Baxter
50) Norman Tebbit

 

Subs:

Julie Goodyear

Kitty Dukakis

James Whale

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1) Jimmy Carter

2) Noam Chomsky

3) Theodore McCarrick

4) George Chuvalo

5) Sophie Kinsella

6) Petula Clark

7) Geoffrey Boycott

8) Manmohan Singh

9) Norman Podhoretz

10) Roberta Flack

11) John Howard

12) William Shatner

13) Esther Rantzen

14) Joanne Woodward

15) Jesse Jackson

16) Mike Ditka

17) Jean Chrétien

18) Ngũgĩ wa Thiong’o

19) John Williams

20) Ruth Buzzi

21) Ronnie Coleman

22) George Hamilton

23) Jean Marsh

24) Viv Richards

25) Roman Polanski

26) Ian Smith (actor)

27) Raoni Metuktire

28) Alan Dershowitz

29) Barry Corbin

30) Joan Plowright

31) James Whale

32) Nigel Starmer-Smith

33) Peter Yarrow

34) L. K. Advani

35) David Irving

36) Yayoi Kusama

37) Lee Meriwether

38) Frank Sedgman

39) Michael Tilson Thomas

40) George Lazenby

41) Jean-Marie Le Pen

42) Sandy Gall

43) Mahathir Mohamad

44) Yoko Ono

45) Jose Mujica

46) Buzz Aldrin

47) Linda Nolan

48) Steve Schirripa

49) Pat Boone

50) Leo Beenhakker

 

Subs

Chuch Grassley

Amartya Sen

Akihito

Tom Baker 

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  1. Barbara Barrie
  2. Barbara Buttrick
  3. Berry Gordy
  4. Bobby Seale
  5. Bobby Vinton
  6. Buzz Aldrin
  7. Cindy Birdsong
  8. Cleo Laine
  9. Clint Eastwood
  10. David Attenborough
  11. Dennis Skinner
  12. Dick Van Dyke
  13. Don King
  14. Eleanor Roosevelt Seagraves
  15. Esther Rantzen
  16. Frankie Valli
  17. Garnet Mimms
  18. Gene Hackman
  19. Harrison Ruffin Tyler
  20. Harvey Weinstein
  21. Ian Smith
  22. Jack Hanna
  23. James Watson
  24. James Whale
  25. Jean-Marie Le Pen
  26. Jesse Jackson
  27. Jim Lovell
  28. Jimmy Carter
  29. Joanne Woodward
  30. John Williams
  31. Johnnie Walker
  32. José Mujica
  33. Josef Fritzl
  34. Lee Grant
  35. Leontyne Price
  36. Mel Brooks
  37. Nigel Starmer-Smith
  38. Noam Chomsky
  39. Peter Yarrow
  40. Roberta Flack
  41. Rosemary Harris
  42. Sidney Cooke
  43. Sonny Rollins
  44. Steve McMichael
  45. Ted Turner
  46. Thomas Noguchi
  47. Tom Lehrer
  48. Willie Nelson
  49. Yoko Ono
  50. Zhu Rongji

 

SUBS

  • Dick Cavett
  • Charles III
  • Myrlie Evers-Williams
  • Rod Argent
  • Wole Soyinka

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@John Key Thanks for running this game again.


1) Jimmy Carter
2) Joanne Woodward
3) Noam Chomsky 
4) David H. Murdock
5) Yoko Ono
6) Stanley Baxter
7) Woody Woodbury
8) King Harald V of Norway
9) David Attenborough
10) Gene Hackman
11) Dick Van Dyke
12) Eva Marie Saint
13) Esther Rantzen
14) Michael Caine
15) Buzz Aldrin
16) Jean-Marie Le Pen
17) Dennis Skinner
18) Imelda Marcos
19) Valdas Adamkus
20) George Soros
21) Sandy Gall
22) Estelle Parsons
23) Joan Plowright
24) Tippi Hedren
25) Steve McMichael
26) Vanessa Redgrave
27) Alejandro Jodorowsky
28) Cleo Laine
29) William Daniels
30) Mel Brooks
31) Alan Bennett
32) Russell M. Nelson
33) Sonny Rollins
34) Sidney Cooke
35) Warren Buffett
36) Mirtha Legrand
37) Alan Greenspan
38) Desmond Morris
39) Tom Brokaw
40) Nigel Starmer-Smith
41) John Astin
42) Judi Dench
43) Jordi Pujol
44) Hans Blix
45) Marita Camacho Quiros
46) June Squibb 
47) Lee Meriwether
48) Sergio Corona
49) Raul Castro
50) Ted Turner


Substitutes: 
1) Norman Tebbit
2) Jim Lovell
3) Caren Marsh Doll
4) Clint Eastwood
5) Prunella Scales

 

Originally there was Lovell on my list and Aldrin on the subs list, but I decided to make a change at the last minute before submitting my list.

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1.Jimmy Carter

2.Steve McMichael

3.Rosemary Harris

4.Julie Newmar

5.Eva Marie Saint

6.Caren Marsh Doll

7.Barbra Feldon

8.Ted Turner

9.Don King

10.Jean-Marie LePen

11.Randy Moss

12.Jane Morgan

13.Ray Anthony

14.David Attenborough

15.John Williams

16.Sonny Shroyer

17.Dan Rather

18.Peter Yarrow

19.Joan Plowright

20.Patricia Routledge

21.Nancy Olson

22.Richard Harris(Black Bart)

23.JoAnne Woodward

24.June Lockhart

25.John Astin

26.William Daniels

27.Lois Smith

28.Tom Brockhaw

29.Vera Miles

30.Warren Buffet

31.Jack Hanna

32.Janette Oke

33.Buzz Aldrin

34.Julie Andrews

35.Estelle Parsons

36.Mel Brooks

37.Dick VanDyke

38.Alan Greenspan

39.Clint Eastwood

40.Gene Hackman

41.Tippi Hedren

42.Yoko Ono

43.Barbra Eden

44.Jim Lovell

45.Pricilla Pointer

46.Tina Loiuse

47.Ian Smith

48.Kaiti Grey

49.Marion Ross

50.Harvey Weinstein

SUBS:

1.Pope Frances

2.Frankie Vallie

3.Rupert Murdock

4.Richard Chamberlain

5.Willie Nelson

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1. Herb Alpert 2.Ursula Andress 3.Ray Anthony 4.Giorgio Armani 5.Dan Aykroyd 6.Raymond van Barneveld 7.Biddy Baxter 8.Leo Beenhakker 9.Geoffrey Boycott 10.Leslie Caron 11.Jimmy Carter 12.Peter Cellier 13.Petula Clark 14.Roy Clarke 15.Edith Cresson 16.Len Deighton 17.Eileen Derbyshire 18.Sir Patrick Duffy 19.Freddie Foreman 20.Berry Gordy 21.John Selwyn Gummer 22.Roy Hattersley 23.David Hockney 24. Noddy Holder 25.Chris Hoy 26.Eric Idle 27.Billie Jean King 28.Don King 29.Olga Korbut 30.Cleo Laine  31.Rod Laver 32.Syd Little 33.Judy Loe 34.Virginia McKenna 35. Lawrie McMenemy 36.Nana Mouskouri 37.Tomilchi Murayama 38. Oliver North 39.Nancy Pelosi 40. Chris Rea 41.Sonny Rollins 42.Erno Rubik 43.Eva Marie Saint 44.Khamtai Siphandone  45.Garfield Sobers 46.Jimmy Tarbuck 47.Norman Tebbit 48.Frankie Valli 49.Lech Walesa 50.Joanne Woodward

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Here is my submission for the Shadow Deathlist Competition 2025:

 

1) Jimmy Carter
2) Harvey Weinstein
3) Noam Chomsky
4) Queen Margrethe II
5) Jack Hanna
6) Mitch McConnell
7) Clint Eastwood
8) Gene Hackman
9) Don King
10) Alan Greenspan
11) Lee Adams
12) Katherine Jackson
13) Dick Van Dyke
14) Pope Francis
15) Eva Marie Saint
16) Tom Lehrer
17) June Lockhart
18) Charles Strouse
19) David Attenborough
20) Rosemary Harris
21) Gene Shalit
22) Jim Lovell
23) Dan Rather
24) Estelle Parsons
25) Kamini Kaushal
26) Ted Turner
27) Peter Cellier
28) Doc Severinsen
29) Prunella Scales
30) Mel Brooks
31) Joanne Woodward
32) Petula Clark
33) Prem Chopra
34) Lee Grant
35) Frank Gehry
36) Joan Plowright
37) Margaret Kerry
38) Aliki
39) Tippi Hedren
40) Michael Caine
41) Robert Wagner
42) Barbara Barrie
43) James Hong
44) Linda Nolan
45) Alan Alda
46) Kalpana Kartik
47) Don Bluth
48) Ruth Buzzi
49) Chris Hoy
50) Lee Meriwether

 

SUBS:

1) Dharmendra

2) Isabel Peron

3) June Squibb

4) Judi Dench

5) Mala Sinha

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simple question : does this list have to be exact same that we're gonna use for the rest of the year (in our signature for example) ? Not 100% done with my "official" shadow list but can already post it here 

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1 minute ago, Lafaucheuse said:

simple question : does this list have to be exact same that we're gonna use for the rest of the year (in our signature for example) ? Not 100% done with my "official" shadow list but can already post it here 

No not at all.  I personally just randomly have my picks listed here in no particular order, but I like it to be in alphabetical order in my signature

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then…

 

1. Jimmy Carter 

2. Noam Chomsky 

3. Joanne Woodward 

4. Eva Marie Saint

5. Edgar Morin 

6. Peter Yarrow 

7. Tippi Hedren 

8. Jean Marie Le Pen

9. Ian Smith

10. Bernadette Chirac 

11. Sophie Kinsella 

12. Esther Rantzen 

13. Yoko Ono 

14. Roberta Flack 

15. André Chandernargor 

16. Theo Burrell 

17. Ion Illiescu 

18. Don King 

19. Imelda Marcos 

20. Katherine Jackson 

21. Asma el Assad 

22. Cindy Birdsong 

23. John Williams 

24. Prunella Scales

25. Sonny Rollins 

26. Buzz Aldrin 

27. Lee Grant 

28. Dick Van Dyke 

29. Gene Hackman 

30. Roberta Flack 

31. Vera Miles 

32. James Ivory 

33. Denis Law

34. Douglas Hurd 

35. Norman Tebbitt 

36. Joan Plowright 

37. Linda Tirado 

38. Cleo Laine 

39. Dennis Skinner

40. Nigel Starmer Smith 

41. Steve McMichael 

42. Antonia Fraser

43. Ruth Buzzi 

44. David Irving 

45. Gabriel de Broglie

46. Mona Ozouf

47. Geoffrey Boycott 

48. Shi Ping 

49. Linda Nolan 

50. James Whale 

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I have PM’d my list and will posting it here in January! Thanks for doing this fun game! 

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3 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said:

simple question : does this list have to be exact same that we're gonna use for the rest of the year (in our signature for example) ? Not 100% done with my "official" shadow list but can already post it here 

 

You also have up until up until December 31 to edit the list you post in here.

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My list:

 

1. Jimmy Carter

2. Dick Van Dyke

3. Alan Greenspan

4. Pope Francis

5. Clint Eastwood

6. Gene Hackman

7. Robert Wagner

8. John Williams

9. Dominic Chianese 

10. Jerry Adler

11. Ratko Mladic

12. King Harald

13. King Juan Carlos

14. Princess Irene of Greece

15. Bernadette Chirac

16. Isabel Perón 

17. Mirtha Legrand

18. Rosemarie Harris

19. Judi Dench

20. Duke of Kent

21. Antonio Tejero

22. Umberto Bossi

23. Jack Nicholson

24. David Attenborough

25. Mariano Ozores

26. Brigitte Bardot 

27. Willie Nelson

28. Noam Chomsky

29. Raphael (Singer)

30. Ozzy Osbourne

31. Tippi Hedren

32. Yoko Ono

33. Emperor Akihito

34. King Salman

35. Joan Plowright

36. Dalai Lama

37. Frank Gehry

38. José Mujica

39. Emilio Laguna

40. Jordi Pujol

41. Robert Duvall

42. Imelda Marcos

43. Noam Chomsky

44. James Watson

45. Tinto Brass

46. Mel Brooks

47. Jean-Marie Le Pen

48. Cecilia Giménez (Ecce Homo)

49. George Soros

50. Charly García 

 

Subs:

1. Bruce Dern

2. Zubin Mehta

3. Ali Kamenhei

4. Hu Jintao

5. Bill Clinton

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My list: (0/50)

 

1. Alan Alda

2. Bruce Willis

3. Buzz Aldrin

4. Clint Eastwood

5. Danny Estrin – Eurovision artist

6. David Attenborough

7. David Lynch

8. Dick Van Dyke

9. Elisabeth Kirkby (politician)

10. Erik Jensen (actor)

11. Esther Rantzen

12. Eugenia Cooney

13. Frankie Valli

14. Gloria Whelan (writer)

15. Harvey Weinstein

16. Iain Liam Ward (The King Of Chemo) (Youtuber)

17. Ian Smith (actor)

18. Isabel Peron

19. James Carter Cathcart

20. Jean-Marie Le Pen

21. Jimmy Carter

22. Jim Lovell

23. John Williams

24. June Squibb

25. Lee Meriwether

26. Linda Nolan

27. Marita Camacho Quirós (first lady)

28. Mary Schmucker (reality star)

29. Mel Brooks

30. Michael Bolton

31. Nigel McCrery – Screenwriter

32. Nigel Starmer-Smith

33. Noam Chomsky

34. Norman Tebbit

35. Ozzy Osbourne

36. Patricia Routledge

37. Peter Yarrow

38. Pope Francis

39. Prunella Scales

40. Roberta Flack

41. Rupert Murdoch

42. Stanley Baxter

43. Steve McMichael

44. Theo Burrell (antiques roadshow)

45. Tom Baker

46. Vanessa Redgrave

47. Violeta Chamorro (politician)

48. Virginia Halas McCaskey

49. Willie Nelson

50. Yoko Ono

 

Subs

1. Wendy Williams

2. Ian McKellen

3. Waris Hussein

4. Michael Caine

5. William Shatner

 

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1. Buzz Aldrin

2. Stanley Baxter

3. Tim Bilton

4. Hans Blix

5. Tom Brokaw

6. Mel Brooks

7. Leslie Caron

8. Jimmy Carter

9. Raul Castro

10. Noam Chomsky

11. Roberta Flack

12. Sandy Gall

13. Alan Greenspan

14. Gene Hackman

15. Chris Hoy

16. Sophie Kinsella

17. Cleo Laine

18. Jean-Marie Le Pen

19. June Lockhart

20. Imelda Marcos

21. Steve McMichael

22. Lee Meriwether

23. Mahathir Mohamad

24. Desmond Morris

25. Sam Neill

26. Willie Nelson

27. Linda Nolan

28. Yoko Ono

29. Isabel Peron

30. Larry Pressler

31. Esther Rantzen

32. Sonny Rollins

33. Linda Ronstadt

34. Eva Marie Saint

35. Prunella Scales

36. Ian Smith

37. Nigel Starmer-Smith

38. Michael Tilson Thomas

39. Ted Turner

40. Frankie Valli

41. James Van Der Beek

42. Dick Van Dyke

43. William H. Webster

44. Harvey Weinstein

45. James Whale

46. Bruce Willis

47. Emily Willis

48. Joanne Woodward

49. Peter Yarrow

50. Miloš Zeman

 

Subs:

Sophia Loren

Mahmoud Abbas

Denis Law

Theo Burrell

Tom Lehrer

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