Lady Die 63 Posted September 22, 2005 Wow, that's all very profound. If there is life after death what will we do for all eternity? Will there be sport to watch? Or books to read? Or what? Plenty of people find 20-odd years of retirement hard to fill let alone all eternity! Yeah well I had a hangover and you can't spend all day doing hostile take-overs and sacking people. I think you have to modify your idea of entertainment a bit a regards an eternal herafter. There's a great essay in the History of the World in 10 1/2 Chapters if you're interested. The guy spends aeons meeting everyone interesting in history, learning everything, having sex with gorgeous women and practising golf until he can do every course in 18 shots. When he's done everything and is bored he's allowed to just drift off into a dreamless sleep. That's all a bit academic really as I don't believe in life after death. I was only wondering what people might do if there was such a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VileBody 11 Posted September 22, 2005 Get a bit of f*****g peace and quiet would be a good start... But don't you agree, it's bonkers not to believe in life after death - what have you go to lose? It's not as though you're going to be around to be disappointed if you're wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Die 63 Posted September 22, 2005 Get a bit of f*****g peace and quiet would be a good start... But don't you agree, it's bonkers not to believe in life after death - what have you go to lose? It's not as though you're going to be around to be disappointed if you're wrong. I guess you have nothing to lose by believing in it but is belief enough to guarantee entry? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VileBody 11 Posted September 22, 2005 Well you'd feel damn silly if it was necessary even if not sufficient! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josco 49 Posted September 22, 2005 Some thoughts.... The lack of evidence suggests no life after death. However, being (apparently uniquely) self-aware, and therefore "death-aware", is there any downside for humans in believing that there is an afterlife of some sort? Difficult to see any rational basis for not believing in one. On this basis, any religious construct to formalise this and give it all a bit more "body" is probably helpful. As to whether there is an actively interventionist God doing miracles, visiting plagues and hurricanes, and getting Kevin Pietersen dropped in his first over, I think it's entirely personal. If you think believing in a third party helps deal with life's vicissitudes, then go ahead. Personally I don't buy into this because you disappear up your own fundament worrying about a vicious and arbitrary deity, who stomps about, "testing people's faith" by giving them stomach cancer, running over their kids or making them commute on the North Kent Line. The trouble with religion comes when it gets confused with race, social issues and politics and you start killing people because you don't like them or feel threatened by them or you want their piece of the pie (or just some pie). Religion then becomes as good a reason as any to dress up baser motives. More cynically, it's also easier for governments/kings/dictators to get people to fight wars for an abstract idea (religion, patriotism, "freedom") than persuading them to get killed to keep the fat bastards at the top eating all the pies (pace Blackadder). In short, it seems mad not to believe in some form of afterlife and religion gives the belief colour and structure. But take it or leave it with the "Meddling God" Just don't get it confused with "I'm going to blow this bus up cos it's the will of Allah". Well VB, I thought that was a very succinct and coherent point of view. Food for thought. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Die 63 Posted September 22, 2005 Well you'd feel damn silly if it was necessary even if not sufficient! That's my point. Believing is obviously necessary but it would be a shame if there was some other requirement too which, if it was missing, would disqualify you. Am I making sense? (I think I know the answer to that. It's been a loooooong day) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VileBody 11 Posted September 22, 2005 Well, is believing necessary? I'm not sure it is obvious that it should be. You could remain a skeptic in life and then get a nice (or nasty) surprise in the Great Beyond if it turned out to exist. The only qualification for entry might be that you always kept your elbows off the table, or liked marzipan or had once visited the Natural History Museum. I guess it's just more appealng that you get a better deal if you're generally pleasant and considerate towards people rather than raping and killing them. Except that twunt MacCartney, of course... Nonononono - I didn't mean I want to rape him!!!! no no no nooooooooo....urghhhhhh.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Die 63 Posted September 22, 2005 The only qualification for entry might be that you always kept your elbows off the table, or liked marzipan or had once visited the Natural History Museum. I hope this is true because that means I'll qualify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boudicca 702 Posted September 22, 2005 I recently had a reading by an alleged "psychic medium". She claimed to have my late grandmother on the line, so to speak. I wasn't really paying much attention, as she told me details about her death, and things that she used to do in life. The medium didn't ask me any questions, but I was still thinking it was all guesswork.Then she mentioned my mother and uncle by name.How the hell did that woman pull those names out of the air like that?I wouldn't mind, but I only had the reading because I'd arrived too early for an event, and was bored.Come to think of it, I was also told that I have been thinking about death of late. Does that mean she knows I've joined this forum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,099 Posted September 22, 2005 I recently had a reading by an alleged "psychic medium". She claimed to have my late grandmother on the line, so to speak. I wasn't really paying much attention, as she told me details about her death, and things that she used to do in life. The medium didn't ask me any questions, but I was still thinking it was all guesswork.Then she mentioned my mother and uncle by name,How the hell did that woman pull those names out of the air like that?I wouldn't mind, but I only had the reading because I'd arrived too early for an event, and was bored.Come to think of it, I was also told, "She says death has been on your mind, in the last few months." Does that mean she knows I've joined this forum? I can't believe there is a 'supreme being' if there was, everything would be smelling of roses so to speak.People like Doris Stokes used to go round the clubs etc. with the knowledge that alot of the info the used was geographical. i.e. When in Scotland, she would ask if there was anyone called 'McGregor or McDonald' and so on, I see him/her clutching their chest, did they have heart problems? Died of a heart attack maybe and continuing along those lines.Sorry, but as I said can't believe it until I see it myself.** See 'Do you believe in ghosts' thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poppet 0 Posted September 23, 2005 I think that if there is a god then somthing had to create him, so you just end up going chicken or egg. makes ya think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted November 9, 2005 We are all born, and we all die. Though what happens after we take our last breath? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy 5 Posted November 9, 2005 We are all born, and we all die. Though what happens afterwe take our last breath? We stop eating and start being eaten. Oh, yes - and our entropy increases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lived so lets die Posted November 9, 2005 I would like to think theirs an afterlife, possibly you should ask people who've seen ghost's. To my knowledge i've never seen a ghost, and then think of the age of folk. Because my gran was born 1914 and died 2002, and i was born 1969 which makes me 35 yrs old. And if life goes on after death my gran would be now 2 or 3 yrs old, it's a strange way of looking at it.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted November 9, 2005 I would like to think theirs an afterlife, possibly you should ask people who've seenghost's. To my knowledge i've never seen a ghost, and then think of the age of folk. Because my gran was born 1914 and died 2002, and i was born 1969 which makes me 35 yrs old. And if life goes on after death my gran would be now 2 or 3 yrs old, it's a strange way of looking at it.? I want to see the opinions of others on this issue. With your grandmother it sounds as if your making an example about reincarnation which is when one is born again. This is stated in the Bouddist religion. Although from what I know and from experiences that I am unable to explain, I strongly believe all religions in the end are one. Even though reincarnation is not said in Jesus Christs bible, it just might be the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Die 63 Posted November 10, 2005 AAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!! Everyone's gone all "spiritual". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Oates 21 Posted November 10, 2005 AAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!! Everyone's gone all "spiritual". There, there! Calm down m'Lady. ( Cup of tea?) "Spiritual" exists, and surely it's better for all of us to consider that aspect of our lives in a cool, ordered manner, in order to avoid the dangers of extremist lapses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Die 63 Posted November 10, 2005 AAAAAARRRGGGHHHH!! Everyone's gone all "spiritual". There, there! Calm down m'Lady. ( Cup of tea?) "Spiritual" exists, and surely it's better for all of us to consider that aspect of our lives in a cool, ordered manner, in order to avoid the dangers of extremist lapses. I already have a cuppa thanks. Disagree with you about "spiritual" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,630 Posted November 10, 2005 In common with many West Cumbrians I find myself wondering if there's life BEFORE death! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boudicca 702 Posted November 11, 2005 We are all born, and we all die. Though what happens afterwe take our last breath? Child Killer Jesse Pomeroy appears to have been reincarnated as a rather famous pop star Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
in eternum+ 22 Posted November 18, 2005 This is stated in the Bouddist religion Is this a new religion founded by one of our Mods? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Six 23 Posted April 1, 2006 I didn't know where to post this, so I picked a thread that seems to fit...almost...ish. What happens when I die? Although I'm not in any way famous, (or, in fact, aware that I'm dying) I was wondering that as I'm a DL member, do I get a mention here when I die? I was on TV once. When I was 13 and the pupils in my school went on strike because the teachers were striking too much, I was on the news as one of the ' striking' youths. I took that as a compliment, by the way. Doesn't count does it?????? Anyway, getting back to my point, , should I put a note in my will to have someone inform the DL of my demise, which will then be posted in the RIP DLMembers thread? [Moved from the Deathlist Howto thread - ff] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Oates 21 Posted April 2, 2006 Anyway, getting back to my point, , should I put a note in my will to have someone inform the DL of my demise, which will then be posted in the RIP DLMembers thread? If the "RIP DLmembers" thread existed, there would be some danger that certain members would place certain other members in it somewhat in advance of the event! We lack a complete-fool-proof (and April-Fool-proof) code that would verify the change of member-status. Possibly a substantial bequest to each of us, payable by email, would be convincing. There is no doubt that all DLers will die so perhaps we should all be thinking seriously about providing (clues) for those who are left behind. As for what happens to the deceased afterwards, I refer you to this? regards, a future Gorilla! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
