Bibliogryphon 9,597 Posted March 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Fergie86 said: Watching Memorial waiting to see how Queen looks but always annoy me do programmes like this as they make out Royal’s (Phillip this time) are saints they couldn’t get further up their arses if they tried. The BBC can't seem to win at this. On a day like today the tone will need to be respectful and dignified and I admit it can sometimes feel a little too forced but there are so many vultures waiting to pounce on any lack of respect There is a place for a serious look at the place the Royal Family occupies in our society and constitution but this is not it. However, when they do approach it in a serious journalistic style such as the recent Amol Rajan documentry about Prince William and Prince Harry everyone gets all upset This is an important point for all people who are pushing for constitutional reform. A rational debate needs to start as soon as possible because the circus following the Queen's death will drown out all those voices 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,597 Posted March 29, 2022 Based on this photo I do not think the Queen is a 2022 hit. However Four rows back The Duke of Kent looks like a walking sack of bones 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted March 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: Based on this photo I do not think the Queen is a 2022 hit. However Four rows back The Duke of Kent looks like a walking sack of bones Andy doing his "bride or groom" routine there. As an aside, Edward appears to be wearing well for someone close to 60. Can see him living a long life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,597 Posted March 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Deathrace said: Andy doing his "bride or groom" routine there. As an aside, Edward appears to be wearing well for someone close to 60. Can see him living a long life. and no one caring 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted March 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: and no one caring He might feature here in 35-40 years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted March 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: Based on this photo I do not think the Queen is a 2022 hit. However Four rows back The Duke of Kent looks like a walking sack of bones Very deliberate walk into the Abbey from the Duke. More of a hobble really. But he stopped to talk to the military volunteers outside and came in the "long way" through the West Door, unlike the Queen, so he's clearly still got decent mobility. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,161 Posted March 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Very deliberate walk into the Abbey from the Duke. More of a hobble really. But he stopped to talk to the military volunteers outside and came in the "long way" through the West Door, unlike the Queen, so he's clearly still got decent mobility. Deliberate? I thought he walked as if he'd shat himself. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted March 29, 2022 Prince Michael of Kent didn’t look good on his feet either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,221 Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, The Old Crem said: Prince Michael of Kent didn’t look good on his feet either. He is 79 ffs! Millions of people don't make it to 79, he is having a good run. The notion that living to a very good old age is something the runs across the whole family is bollocks. He may be on his way out or maybe it is because he is old and not as physically strong and sturdy as he was. Doesn't mean that he is going anytime soon. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCemetaryMan 53 Posted April 2, 2022 On 29/03/2022 at 04:49, Bibliogryphon said: Based on this photo I do not think the Queen is a 2022 hit. However Four rows back The Duke of Kent looks like a walking sack of bones We are only 3 months in. Patience young grasshopper' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackOLantern 10 Posted April 3, 2022 Why is Edwards son named Viscount and not Prince James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marlborough 5 Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Prince Edward is son of the Monarch so is a Prince. His children are not called Prince or Princess because Buckingham Palace announced when Edward married his children would be styled the children of an Earl, hence Viscount Severn. However when his children reach 18 they can choose to be called Prince or Princess. But it’s highly unlikely and they will probably work for a living. https://people.com/royals/queen-elizabeths-grandchildren-will-work-for-a-living-mom-sophie-wessex-says/ Edited April 3, 2022 by Marlborough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marlborough 5 Posted April 3, 2022 Lady Louise Windsor is already 18 and did not choose to use the Princess title Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted April 3, 2022 11 hours ago, JackOLantern said: Why is Edwards son named Viscount and not Prince James It’s because he’s black, innit? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted April 4, 2022 21 hours ago, Marlborough said: Prince Edward is son of the Monarch so is a Prince. His children are not called Prince or Princess because Buckingham Palace announced when Edward married his children would be styled the children of an Earl, hence Viscount Severn. However when his children reach 18 they can choose to be called Prince or Princess. Though he won't be a Prince, James, Viscount Severn may ascend to a Dukedom one day. It is widely understood that when Charles becomes King, Edward will inherit his father's title of Duke of Edinburgh. The title passed to Charles on his father's death and will be in the monarch's favour to pass on when he is King. The reason Edward was styled an Earl and not a Duke was that he would eventually be the new DofE, with Charles Prince of Wales and Andrew Duke of York. This would also be fitting with Edward's patronage of the Duke of Edinburgh's award scheme. In that case, James would likely ascend to become Earl of Wessex and his eldest son would be Viscount Severn. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: Though he won't be a Prince, James, Viscount Severn may ascend to a Dukedom one day. It is widely understood that when Charles becomes King, Edward will inherit his father's title of Duke of Edinburgh. The title passed to Charles on his father's death and will be in the monarch's favour to pass on when he is King. The reason Edward was styled an Earl and not a Duke was that he would eventually be the new DofE, with Charles Prince of Wales and Andrew Duke of York. This would also be fitting with Edward's patronage of the Duke of Edinburgh's award scheme. In that case, James would likely ascend to become Earl of Wessex and his eldest son would be Viscount Severn. That plan has been scrapped now it was reported in the press last year. Charles doesn’t want to reallocate the Dukedom of Edinburgh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted April 4, 2022 On 29/03/2022 at 22:52, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: He is 79 ffs! Millions of people don't make it to 79, he is having a good run. The notion that living to a very good old age is something the runs across the whole family is bollocks. He may be on his way out or maybe it is because he is old and not as physically strong and sturdy as he was. Doesn't mean that he is going anytime soon. It was more the holding on to Princess Michael through much of the walk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,161 Posted April 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: That plan has been scrapped now it was reported in the press last year. Charles doesn’t want to reallocate the Dukedom of Edinburgh. I haven't seen that. Can you give a source, please? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted April 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, Toast said: I haven't seen that. Can you give a source, please? https://www.tatler.com/article/prince-edward-duke-of-edinburgh-prince-charles-doesnt-want-to-bequeath-title https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/edward-wants-to-be-duke-of-edinburgh-but-his-brother-is-not-on-his-side-77v25z3b0 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,161 Posted April 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: https://www.tatler.com/article/prince-edward-duke-of-edinburgh-prince-charles-doesnt-want-to-bequeath-title https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/edward-wants-to-be-duke-of-edinburgh-but-his-brother-is-not-on-his-side-77v25z3b0 I can't read the paywalled one, but from the other link it doesn't sound as definite as you say. If it was Philip's wish, I can't see Charles "scrapping" it especially while the Queen is still alive. But maybe there's more to it that hasn't yet been disclosed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted April 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, Toast said: I can't read the paywalled one, but from the other link it doesn't sound as definite as you say. If it was Philip's wish, I can't see Charles "scrapping" it especially while the Queen is still alive. But maybe there's more to it that hasn't yet been disclosed. Seems a bit petty if that was to be the case. The title means nothing to Charles, it will be lost among the many other lower ranks of the monarch, and Edward was specifically not given a Dukedom like Cambridge or Sussex for this reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,161 Posted April 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Seems a bit petty if that was to be the case. The title means nothing to Charles, it will be lost among the many other lower ranks of the monarch, and Edward was specifically not given a Dukedom like Cambridge or Sussex for this reason. It's possible that Charles might want to retire the title as a tribute to his father. Although it seems odd to go against his expressed wish. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted April 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, Toast said: It's possible that Charles might want to retire the title as a tribute to his father. Although it seems odd to go against his expressed wish. The Dukedom of Edinburgh may be one they want to retain for a more senior Royal in the future. Given those rebellious Scots… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted April 8, 2022 Pulls out of Maundy day church service and will be represented by Charles instead https://news.sky.com/story/queen-pulls-out-of-maundy-day-church-service-and-will-be-represented-by-prince-charles-palace-says-12585411 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
