Guest Guest Posted March 26, 2012 Sorry, my mistake, as Ben Elton had it, swapping one "suit full of bugger all" for another. Meant Howell (b 1933). Howell is actually a Minister in the UK Government now. He was also born in 1936. His daughter is married to George Osborne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Samuel emberpri Posted March 26, 2012 If there's still a member of the Wilson administration kicking about, surely we're not gonna be rid of all of Thatcher's vegetables for a good 15, 20 years. Some of the ones towards the end of her administration should be around a good while like John Major, Michael Portillo and Chris Patten. Some like Francis Maude and Kenneth Clarke (although I don't expect him to last too long) are still in the Cabinet now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted March 28, 2012 My money is on Jim Prior going next.he's been on a leave of absence from the House of Lords for a while which usually means a long term illness such as dementia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted July 12, 2012 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted July 12, 2012 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Tony Benn looks pretty frail these days sadly. Kinnock appears to be in pretty decent health and is only 70. Gerald Kaufmann is still an MP to this day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted July 12, 2012 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Tony Benn looks pretty frail these days sadly. Kinnock appears to be in pretty decent health and is only 70. Gerald Kaufmann is still an MP to this day. Well he is 87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted July 13, 2012 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Tony Benn looks pretty frail these days sadly. Kinnock appears to be in pretty decent health and is only 70. Gerald Kaufmann is still an MP to this day. Well he is 87 I do think that after Healy, Tony Benn is the next one on the list. I recently read his diaries which covered the period when his wife died - Very moving. I had forgotton that Bill Rodgers was still alive. I thought that only Shirley Williams and David Owen were left from the Gang of Four. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted July 13, 2012 Though he wasn't part of the original cabinet, Rhodes Boyson (b. 1925) is worth keeping an eye on. Resides in a nursing home now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted July 25, 2012 Lord Davidson who she appointed deputy chief whip has died aged 83 http://www.telegraph...t-Davidson.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted August 16, 2012 Another one of Thatchers ministers Sir Ray Whitney has died at 81 http://www.telegraph...ay-Whitney.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,194 Posted August 29, 2012 Sir Rhodes Boyson (mentioned above and in dispatches in a few threads) has died - http://www.telegraph...des-Boyson.html - a hit for 3 DDP teams, including myself, but I think he would've been picked much more in 2013. Always "entertaining", if not for the right reasons. RIP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,586 Posted August 29, 2012 Sir Rhodes Boyson (mentioned above and in dispatches in a few threads) has died - http://www.telegraph...des-Boyson.html - a hit for 3 DDP teams, including myself, but I think he would've been picked much more in 2013. Always "entertaining", if not for the right reasons. RIP I see a pattern developing here... Ali G interviewed Andy Rooney (died Nov 2011), Gore Vidal (died 2012), Bhodes Royson (died 2012) and Buzz Aldrin (who he spoke to about Neil Armstrong, died 2012). Tony Benn, C. Everett Koop, Buzz Aldrin, Donald Trump, Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Pat Bucanan, Noam Chomsky, Al-Fayed, Stansfield Turner and Sam Donaldson were all interviewed by Cohen as Ali G as well... interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garn2 34 Posted February 23, 2013 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Dead. A hit for People I Think Might Die in 2013 United. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted February 23, 2013 Bruce Mllan would not be happy to be included in the Thatcher cabinet thread! He was a decent guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted April 8, 2013 Lord Geoffrey Howe being interviewed on Sky news now re Maggies death- judging by the look and sound of him he w ont be far behind .He clearly doesnt have a clue where he is or what hes doing. bless the old sod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted April 10, 2013 Heard Malcolm Rifkind say that only he, Ken Clark and Peter Lilley are Thatcher Cabinet members who remain as MPs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted April 13, 2013 With John Biffen and Ian Gilmour recently deciding to spend more time with their ancestors, I'd thought I'd update you all on the current roll-call of politicians from Maggie's first cabinet from 1979 that are still on-message. Here goes... Margaret Thatcher - Prime Minister (b. 1925) (d. 2013) William Whitelaw - Deputy PM/ Home Secretary (d. 1999) Sir Geoffrey Howe - Chancellor of the Exchequer (b. 1926) John Biffen - Chief Secretary to the Treasury (d. 2007) Lord Soames - Lord President of the Council (d. 1987) Lord Hailsham - Lord Chancellor (d. 2001) Sir Ian Gilmour - Lord Privy Seal (d. 2007) Lord Carrington - Foreign Secretary (b. 1919) Peter Walker - Agriculture, Fisheries & Food (d. 2010) Norman St-John Stevas - Arts/ Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (d. 2012) Francis Pym - Defence (d. 2008) Mark Carlisle - Education & Science (d. 2005) James Prior - Employment (bet he had a jolly time then!) (b. 1927) David Howell - Energy (b. 1936) Michael Heseltine - Environment (b. 1933) Patrick Jenkin - Health & Social Security (b. 1926) Keith Joseph (architect of Thatcherism) - Industry (d. 1994) Humphrey Atkins - Northern Ireland (d. 1996) Angus Maude - Paymaster-General (d. 1993) George Younger - Scotland (d. 2003) John Nott (Here today, gone tomorrow?) - President of the Board of Trade (b. 1932) Nicholas Edwards - Wales (b. 1934) So....10 are dead and 6 are 80+. Pym's not well, Carrington's getting on and are probably the best bet. I thought Jenkin died years ago. Not seen Nott for a while. Prior, Edwards & Howe also. Stevas and Hezza are still knocking about on TV. Walker crashed his car recently which suggests he's losing his marbles... Which leaves Thatch and Howe, her Brutus.... Updated for Thatcher...(although the tmib may wish to update his starting post). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted April 14, 2013 Haven't seen any recent interviews with any of Thatchers first cabinet since she died except howe.Most of the interviews were clearly several years old.Has anyone else seen any up to date appearances by them and if so how are they looking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted April 14, 2013 PS Thatchers death means only 4 members of Heaths cabinet are still alive-Carrington,Howe,Jenkin and Prior. Shouldn't be long before they're all gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted March 14, 2014 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Dead. A hit for People I Think Might Die in 2013 United. and Tony Benns death reduces the number to 7.More importantly it leaves only Denis Healey and Roy Mason as the only 2 living members of Harold Wilsons 1964-1970 cabinet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted October 3, 2015 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Dead. A hit for People I Think Might Die in 2013 United. and Tony Benns death reduces the number to 7.More importantly it leaves only Denis Healey and Roy Mason as the only 2 living members of Harold Wilsons 1964-1970 cabinet And now Denis Healey has died, the numbers dwindle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted October 3, 2015 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Dead. A hit for People I Think Might Die in 2013 United. and Tony Benns death reduces the number to 7.More importantly it leaves only Denis Healey and Roy Mason as the only 2 living members of Harold Wilsons 1964-1970 cabinet And now Denis Healey has died, the numbers dwindle. I kinda thought Jeremy Corbyns election might be too much for old Dennis. He was never on the left of the party was he Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted October 3, 2015 There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet. Denis Healey (b.1917) Roy Hattersley (b.1932) Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930) Roy Mason (b.1924) Neil Kinnock (b.1942) Bruce Millan (b.1927) William Rodgers (b.1928) Tony Benn (b. 1925) John Morris (b 1931) All will be obit worthy! Dead. A hit for People I Think Might Die in 2013 United. and Tony Benns death reduces the number to 7.More importantly it leaves only Denis Healey and Roy Mason as the only 2 living members of Harold Wilsons 1964-1970 cabinet And now Denis Healey has died, the numbers dwindle. and Roy Mason died last april so that's all of the 1960s labour cabinet gone ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted October 10, 2015 With John Biffen and Ian Gilmour recently deciding to spend more time with their ancestors, I'd thought I'd update you all on the current roll-call of politicians from Maggie's first cabinet from 1979 that are still on-message. Here goes... Margaret Thatcher - Prime Minister (d. 2013) William Whitelaw - Deputy PM/ Home Secretary (d. 1999) Sir Geoffrey Howe - Chancellor of the Exchequer (b. 1926) John Biffen - Chief Secretary to the Treasury (d. 2007) Lord Soames - Lord President of the Council (d. 1987) Lord Hailsham - Lord Chancellor (d. 2001) Sir Ian Gilmour - Lord Privy Seal (d. 2007) Lord Carrington - Foreign Secretary (b. 1919) Peter Walker - Agriculture, Fisheries & Food (d. 2010) Norman St-John Stevas - Arts/ Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (d. 2012) Francis Pym - Defence (d. 2008) Mark Carlisle - Education & Science (d. 2005) James Prior - Employment (bet he had a jolly time then!) (b. 1927) David Howell - Energy (b. 1936) Michael Heseltine - Environment (b. 1933) Patrick Jenkin - Health & Social Security (b. 1926) Keith Joseph (architect of Thatcherism) - Industry (d. 1994) Humphrey Atkins - Northern Ireland (d. 1996) Angus Maude - Paymaster-General (d. 1993) George Younger - Scotland (d. 2003) John Nott (Here today, gone tomorrow?) - President of the Board of Trade (b. 1932) Nicholas Edwards - Wales (b. 1934) With Thatch gone, there's just 8 left.... Geoffrey Howe now dead: http://www.deathlist.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3839&p=238636 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted October 10, 2015 With John Biffen and Ian Gilmour recently deciding to spend more time with their ancestors, I'd thought I'd update you all on the current roll-call of politicians from Maggie's first cabinet from 1979 that are still on-message. Here goes... Margaret Thatcher - Prime Minister (d. 2013) William Whitelaw - Deputy PM/ Home Secretary (d. 1999) Sir Geoffrey Howe - Chancellor of the Exchequer (b. 1926) John Biffen - Chief Secretary to the Treasury (d. 2007) Lord Soames - Lord President of the Council (d. 1987) Lord Hailsham - Lord Chancellor (d. 2001) Sir Ian Gilmour - Lord Privy Seal (d. 2007) Lord Carrington - Foreign Secretary (b. 1919) Peter Walker - Agriculture, Fisheries & Food (d. 2010) Norman St-John Stevas - Arts/ Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (d. 2012) Francis Pym - Defence (d. 2008) Mark Carlisle - Education & Science (d. 2005) James Prior - Employment (bet he had a jolly time then!) (b. 1927) David Howell - Energy (b. 1936) Michael Heseltine - Environment (b. 1933) Patrick Jenkin - Health & Social Security (b. 1926) Keith Joseph (architect of Thatcherism) - Industry (d. 1994) Humphrey Atkins - Northern Ireland (d. 1996) Angus Maude - Paymaster-General (d. 1993) George Younger - Scotland (d. 2003) John Nott (Here today, gone tomorrow?) - President of the Board of Trade (b. 1932) Nicholas Edwards - Wales (b. 1934) With Thatch gone, there's just 8 left.... Geoffrey Howe now dead: http://www.deathlist.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=3839&p=238636 Man, that Casual Politics guy is reaping folk faster than David Quantick's Showbiz Pals... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
