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I don't tend to give Lex much longer in general. He's still in his wheelchair post-stroke.

 

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On 16/03/2021 at 23:21, arghton said:

71 Kakuryu Rikisaburo (born 1985) Became Yokozuna in 2014, still active.

 

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/03/443456bd50d5-breaking-news-sumo-association-approves-retirement-of-yokozuna-kakuryu.html

Has retired due to an injury.

We're pretty close to a situation where there are no active Yokozunas as the only active Yokozuna is Hakuhō Shō who recently had COVID and had a kneecap surgery this month. The last two times this has happened were in 1992 and 1931.

 

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On 16/03/2021 at 23:21, arghton said:

56 Wakanohana Kanji II (born 1953) Became Yokozuna in 1978, left the Japan Sumo Association in 2013 due to poor health.

Will be 68 tomorrow.

Apparently he suffered a stroke in 2007 and has been in a wheelchair since.

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Here he is with Carrie Fisher in 1980.

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Antonio Inoki now also has caught the Coronavirus.

 

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5 hours ago, gcreptile said:

Antonio Inoki now also has caught the Coronavirus.

 

Have you tried to translate the original tweet? Says nothing about COVID.

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1 hour ago, drol said:

Have you tried to translate the original tweet? Says nothing about COVID.

Yes, but I did look through his tweets to see if it was reliable:

Look at the later one.

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Yes, Google translate messed it into Italian. Thanks.

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Reports on Twitterscreen that Jack Veneno has died.

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Oh, why not, the most niche list ever. People Ric Flair beat for wrestling titles.

 

Various World Titles

1.       17/9/1981 – Dusty Rhodes (1945-2015, died after a combination of cancer and a fall.)

2.       9/2/1982 – Dusty Rhodes (see above)

3.       7/9/1982 – Jack Veneno (1942-2021)

4.       10/1/1983 – Carlos Colon (b. 1948, big name in Puerto Rican wrestling, helped cover up Bruiser Brody’s murder, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2014.)

5.       11/2/1983 - Victor Jovica (b. 1945, another Puerto Rican name and WWC promoter there)

6.       24/11/1983 – Harley Race (1943-2019, the great Harley Race died after a battle with lung cancer.)

7.       23/3/1984 – Harley Race (see above)

8.       24/5/1984 – Kerry Von Erich (1960-93 – shot himself)

9.       9/8/1986 – Dusty Rhodes (see above)

10.   26/11/1987 – Ronnie Garvin (b 1945)

11.   7/5/1989 – Ricky Steamboat b. 1953, had to retire from active competition in 2010 after a near fatal haemorrhage but seems in OK nick for it, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2009.)

12.   11/1/1991 – Sting (b. 1959, currently active in AEW as manager/wrestler, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2016 - fun note, he patented the name before the singer, who pays royalties to the wrestler to use the name.)

13.   19/5/1991 – Tatsumi Fujinami (b. 1953, still wrestlers, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2015)

1/9/1992 - WWE title - Randy Savage

14.   18/7/1993 – Barry Windham (b. 1960 – suffers from the traditional Windham family heart problems, had a serious HA few years back, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2012.)

15.   27/12/1993 – Vader (1955-2018)

16.   21/4/1994 – Ricky Steamboat (see above)

17.   23/6/1994 – Sting (see above)

18.   27/12/1995 – Randy Savage (1952-2011, died due to heart attack/car crash combination just as he seemed to be getting his life back on track.)

19.   11/2/1996 – also Randy Savage

20.   14/3/1999 – Hulk Hogan (b. 1953, you know who he is.)

21.   7/5/2000 – Jeff Jarrett (b. 1967, works backstage for WWE, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2018)

22.   29/5/2000 – Kevin Nash (b. 1959, legit 7-footer, full time career ended in-ring after a heart attack in 2005 but still managed to pull off 2 Rumble appearances and 1 ladder match in the last decade, because nutter. For a 7-footer with heart problems he seems in decent health these days, but has spent 15 years telling interviews he wont see 70 due to a history of heart issues in his family. A two time Hall of Fame inductee (2013 and 2020).)

Won the Mid-Atlantic World title 4 times, each time off Wahoo McDaniel who died in 2002.

 

TV titles

1.       8/2/1975 – Paul Jones (1942-2018)

2.       4/4/1977 – Rufus R Jones (1933-93)

 

 

US title

1.       29/7/1977 – Bobo Brazil (1924-98)

2.       9/4/1978 – Mr Wrestling (1934-2002)

3.       1/4/1979 – Ricky Steamboat (see above)

4.       19/4/1980 – Jimmy Snuka (1943-2017)

5.       24/11/1980 – Greg Valentine (b. 1950)

6.       7/7/1996 – Konnan (b. 1964, a number of kidney related health issues in recent years)

 

 

Tag title opponents not previously mentioned

1.       4/7/1974 – Bob Bruggers (b. 1944, retired after the famous plane crash in 1975.)

2.       6/7/1977 – Dino Bravo (1948-93, rather infamously murdered, possibly by mob connections.)

3.       6/7/1977 – Tiger Conway Jr (b. 1953)

4.       26/12/1976 – Gene Anderson (1939-91, heart attack)

5.       26/12/1976 – Ole Anderson (b. 1942, MS and burned every bridge in wrestling over past 40 years by being grumpy fucker.)

6.       8/8/1979 – Baron Von Raschke (b. 1940)

7.       14/12/2003 – Dvon Dudley  (b. 1972 works for WWE but recently suffering a “health issue”.)

8.       14/12/2003 – Bubba Ray Dudley (the Dudleys were one of the greatest tag teams of the past 30 years, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2018. Still wrestles.)

9.       22/3/2004 – Booker T (b. 1965, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2013 and 2019 – still regularly appears and looks great.)

10.   22/3/2004 – Rob Van Dam (b. 1970, inducted into the WWE HOF in 2021 – still wrestles but has signs of early health decline from his style – the repeat headaches, memory issues etc)

11.   5/11/2006 – Kenny Doane (b. 1986

12.   5/11/2006 – Mike Mondo (b. 1983)

 

IC title

1.       18/9/2005 – Carlito (b. 1979 – Carlos Colon’s son, made a recent appearance in the Royal Rumble.)

 

 

Just enough left for a theme team!

 

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Another maybe very mildly interesting list:

 

List of alive prominent Sumo wrestlers who debuted before 1970 (40s and prior are all dead):

 

50s

January 1950 - Haguroyama Sojo (born 1934)

January 1952 - Oikawa Teruhisa (born 1936)

May 1952 - Wakakoma Kenzo (born 1937) and Kanenohana Takeo (born 1936)

March 1953 - Wakanokuni Takeo (born 1936)

May 1953 - Kiminishiki Toshimasa (born 1937)

March 1954 - Myobudani Kiyoshi (born 1937)

March 1955 - Wakatenryu Yuzo (born 1940)

May 1955 - Okanoyama Yoshiro (born 1935)

March 1956 - Daimonji Kenji (born 1940)

May 1956 - Daiyu Tatsumi (born 1940) and Tensuiyama Masanori (born 1940)

September 1956 - Sawahikari Yukio (born 1941) and Kiyokuni Katsuo (born 1941)

January 1957 - Kitanofuji Katsuaki (born 1942) Yokozuna

November 1957 - Wakamiyama Kohei (born 1943)

May 1958 - Hanahikari Setsuo (born 1940)

March 1959 - Asaarashi Daizaburo (born 1943)

May 1959 - Yoshinohana Masaki (born 1943)

July 1959 - Shiratayama Hidetoshi (born 1943)

 

60s

March 1960 - Hasegawa Katsutoshi (born 1944) and Arashiyama Jiro (born 1943)

May 1960 - Toyokuni Susumu (born 1937)

September 1960 - Futagoryu Isao (born 1941)

November 1960 - Tochiazuma Tomoyori (born 1944)

January 1961 - Dairyugawa Kazuo (born 1946) and Futagodake Takeshi (born 1943)

March 1961 - Yutakayama Katsuo (born 1937)

May 1961 - Fujinokawa Takeo (born 1946)

January 1962 - Oshio Kenji (born 1948)

May 1962 - Maruyama Takahiko (born 1946)

March 1963 - Fujizakura Yoshimori (born 1948) and Tochiisami Yoshiharu (born 1947)

July 1963 - Asahikuni Masuo (born 1947), Asanoburi Toshimitsu (born 1948) and Yokozuna Mienoumi (born 1948)

December 1963 - Genichiro Tenryu (born 1950)

March 1964 - Takamiyama Daigoro (born 1944) and Aobajo Yukio (born 1948)

May 1964 - Tamakiyama Masanori (born 1951), Wakajishi Shigenori (born 1948) and Teruzakura Hiroyuki (born 1947)

July 1964 - Kitaseumi Hiromitsu (born 1948)

March 1965 - Yoshioyama Osamu (born 1949) and Daiju Hisateru (born 1950)

September 1965 - Kaiki Nobuhide (born 1952)

January 1966 - Kurosegawa Kuniyuki (born 1951)

March 1966 - Chiyozakura Teruo (born 1950)

May 1966 - Daigo Kenshi (born 1952)

November 1966 - Banryuyama Takaharu (born 1951)

January 1967 - Masuiyama Daishiro II (born 1948)

March 1967 - Washuyama Yoshikazu (born 1949)

May 1967 - Kirinji Kazuharu (born 1953), Tamanofuji Shigeru (born 1949) and Kotonofuji Muneyoshi (born 1951)

November 1967 - Kotogatake Koichi (born 1952)

March 1968 - Daihi Susumu (born 1952)

May 1968 - Onishiki Ittetsu (born 1953)

July 1968 - Yokozuna Wakanohana Kanji II (born 1953)

November 1968 - Taiko Yoshio (born 1953)

March 1969 - Hidanohana Shigeyoshi (born 1953)

 

Debuted in 1970

March 1970 - Tamaryu Daizo (born 1954)

May 1970 - Hoshiiwato Yuji (born 1955)

 

 

Heaviest Sumo fighters alive as of 9.4.2021

1. Orora Satoshi (born 1983) 288kg/635lb, career 2000-2018

2. Konishiki Yasokichi (born 1963) 287kg/633lb, career 1982-1997

3. Yamamotouama Ryuta (born 1984) 265kg/584lb, career 2007-2011, appeared in this music video a while ago.

 

A suprisingly large amount of 50s sumo wrestlers are still alive.

 

 

Other Wrestlers:

 

JUDO:

List of Kōdōkan 10th dan of Judo

Toshiro Daigo (born 1926)

Ichiro Abe (born 1922)

Yoshimi Osawa (born 1926)

 

International Judo Federation 10th dan

George Kerr (born 1937)

Yoshiro "Yosh" Uchida (born 1920)

Franco Capelletti (born 1938)

 

10th dan, National Governing Body or Continental Union

Yi Bang-geun (born 1924)

Jim Bregman (born 1941)

 

Independent Bodies, 10th dan

Dieter Teige (born 1939)

Brian Jacks (born 1946)

 

Taekwondo 10th dans

Kukkiwon: Joon Choi (born 1950)

Other Taekwondo systems: Kim Pyung-soo (born 1939)

 

Hybrid founders:

Shooto: Satoru Sayama (born 1957)

Chun Kuk Do: Chuck Norris (born 1940)

 

Martial art school founders:

Kyongwon Ahn (born 1937) United Taekwondo Association (USA) founder

Steve Arneil (born 1934) International Federation of Karate founder

Nori Bunasawa (born 1947) Bunasawa Jukkendo founder

Juan Eduardo Castro dos Santos (born 1954) Uruguayan karate founder

Lucien Carbin (born 1952) Founder of Carbin All Style Muay Thai

Sam FS Chin (born 1954) I Liq Chuan founder

Hee Il Cho (born 1940) AIMAA founder

Chang Keun Choi (born 1941) Korea Taekwon-Do Association founder

Harry Cook (born 1949) Seijinkai Karatedo Association founder, sexual offender

Howard Collins (born 1949) Kyokushin Karate Sweden founder?

Sun Hwan Chung (born 1940) Moo Sool Do founder

Kwang Jo Choi (born 1942) Choi Kwang Do founder

Leo Fong (born 1928) Wei Kuen Do founder

Morio Higaonna (born 1938) IOGKF founder

Stephen K. Heyes (born 1949) To-Shin Do founder

Masaaki Hatsumi (born 1931) Bujinkan Organization founder

Thom Harick (born 1943) Chakuriki Gym founder

Mutsusuke Harada (born 1928) KDS founder

Hwang In-shik (born 1940)

Hiroyuki Hamada (born 1925) Nihon Koden Shindo Ryu founder

Nobuyoshi Higashi (born 1938) Knife defence aikido founder

Kazuyoshi Ishii (born 1953) Ishii founder

Antonio Inoki (born 1943) Inoki Genome federation founder

Ji Han-jae (born 1936) Sin Moo Hapkido founder

Kim Yun-sik (born 1943) Bum Moo Kwan Hapkido founder

Kim Yoon-sang (born 1934) Hapki yusul founder

Kim Bok Man (born 1934) Taekwondo pioneer

Glenn Keeney (born 1942) PKC founder

Roy Kurban (birth date unknown)

Kwon Tae-Man (born 1941) Hapkido pioneer

Takayuki Kubota (born 1934) Gosoku-ryu founder

Young Il Kong (born 1943) Another Korea Taekwon-Do founder

Miyuki Miura (born 1949)

Joko Ninomiya (born 1954) Enshin Karate founder

Tadashi Nakamura (born 1942) World Seido Karate Organization founder

Norival Moreira de Oliveira (born 1945) Capoeira Angola pioneer

Tsutomu Ohshima (born 1930) SKA founder

Jong Soo Park (born 1941) Another Korea Taekwon-Do founder

Norman Robinson (born 1936) JKA South Africa branch founder

Ki Ha Rhee (born 1938) Father of British Taekwon-Do

Chong Chul Rhee (born 1936) Rhee Taekwon-Do founder

Reinaldo Ramos Suassana (born 1938) International Capoeiro organization founder

Hiroshi Shirai (born 1937) SCI/WSI founder

Wong Kiew Kit (born 1944) Shaolin pioneer

 

 

 

Other:

Maung Gyi (born 1936) Introduced Bando to the United States

Jackie Chan (born 1954) One of the most known martial artists.

 

 

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Can I just put, for the record, I am confused by the sudden influx of sumo wrestlers (actual sport) and Olympic amateur wrestlers (actual sport) into the pro-wrestling thread?

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Former NFL star turned "wrestler" Steve 'Mongo' McMichael has been quietly battling ALS/MND, gone public now as he is "declining quickly".

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bears/ct-prem-chicago-bears-steve-mcmichael-als-20210423-okfosu3f7ffzpcn6d4lja62cw4-story.html

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On 17/04/2021 at 12:25, msc said:

Can I just put, for the record, I am confused by the sudden influx of sumo wrestlers (actual sport) and Olympic amateur wrestlers (actual sport) into the pro-wrestling thread?

 

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I don't think (or atleast I haven't seen one) that there's a good thread for sumo wrestlers, karatekas, judokas, taekwondo practicioners, olympic wrestlers etc, practicioners of other martial arts. A boxing thread exists but they wouldn't quite fit there either

 

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11 minutes ago, arghton said:

I don't think (or atleast I haven't seen one) that there's a good thread for sumo wrestlers, karatekas, judokas, taekwondo practicioners, olympic wrestlers etc, practicioners of other martial arts. A boxing thread exists but they wouldn't quite fit there either

 

 

At the rate they are being posted, this is actually that example of something you could create a new thread for then, in that case. There is an MMA thread but its a bit too niche for what you are after.

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Tbf took me ages after I became a member to clock that’s what the thread title meant. I thought it was “/ actors” because many WWE stars have gone on to appear in Hollywood films!

 

Should probably read “Wrestlers (aka actors)” or we just take the attempt of humour out altogether and make it “Pro-wrestlers.” or something.

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18 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Tbf took me ages after I became a member to clock that’s what the thread title meant. I thought it was “/ actors” because many WWE stars have gone on to appear in Hollywood films!

 

Should probably read “Wrestlers (aka actors)” or we just take the attempt of humour out altogether and make it “Pro-wrestlers.” or something.

 

The actors bit is a bit unneeded (imo its either pejorative or aimed for people too thick to be on DL) but so it goes. It is a very difficult form of entertainment to pen down into a category admittedly -  athletic theatre doesn't have many other candidates bar some of the wilder circus shows.

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