Wot Pore Sbelin Av U Scene?

[Lard Bazaar 3,799]

Another I ATE HO

[Madcow 6]

Another I ATE HO

I think that's the one. That looks like the Lowesmoor chippy opposite!

[time 8,617]

Pore sbelin? Wel theires thiis:

 

Should prospective Prime Ministers have a basic grasp of spelling before they are entrusted to run the country? Discuss.

[Monoclinic 39]

Pore sbelin? Wel theires thiis:

 

Should prospective Prime Ministers have a basic grasp of spelling before they are entrusted to run the country? Discuss.

 

http://handwriting.feedbucket.com/start.php

 

If you were to believe that and my subjective replies to 5 questions then Gordon Brown

 

fills every waking moment with activity. (Why is the box so small?)

is a person who thinks before acting, intelligent and thorough.. (Entirely in print)*

is negative, fearful, resistant, doubtful, and/or selfish. (Back with the top leaning to the left)

is reserved, shy, cautious, and thoughtful. (A large space, possibly as wide as some of the words themselves)

enjoys life in his own way and do not depend on the opinions of others. (nothing.)

 

either that or he is blind and writes like a doctor.

 

If I change this to a mix of cursive and print he becomes a shy, idealistic person who does not find it easy to have relationships, especially intimate ones. So just like politicians handwriting analysis is a crock of shit.

[Paul Bearer 6,102]

Pore sbelin? Wel theires thiis:

 

Should prospective Prime Ministers have a basic grasp of spelling before they are entrusted to run the country? Discuss.

 

At least he had the decency to handwrite a letter instead of sending a pre-typed letter with a rubber stamp signature.

[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219]

Pore sbelin? Wel theires thiis:

 

Should prospective Prime Ministers have a basic grasp of spelling before they are entrusted to run the country? Discuss.

 

At least he had the decency to handwrite a letter instead of sending a pre-typed letter with a rubber stamp signature.

That may be true HCW, however, lets be honest, not only is the spelling poor, it LOOKS shite!

It looks like the kind of note a million housewives used to leave curled up in an empty Milk bottle for the Unigate milkman to read.

Im suprised it doesnt say "2 pints Tuesday, a dozen eggs and a good hard shag please."

What kind of bastard handwrites a letter with poor spelling, mistakes overwritten on a bit of paper that could have been found at the back of a drawer, to a mother who has just lost her boy?

He is an even bigger w***er than I could have possibly believed.

[Lard Bazaar 3,799]

Pore sbelin? Wel theires thiis:

 

Should prospective Prime Ministers have a basic grasp of spelling before they are entrusted to run the country? Discuss.

 

At least he had the decency to handwrite a letter instead of sending a pre-typed letter with a rubber stamp signature.

That may be true HCW, however, lets be honest, not only is the spelling poor, it LOOKS shite!

It looks like the kind of note a million housewives used to leave curled up in an empty Milk bottle for the Unigate milkman to read.

Im suprised it doesnt say "2 pints Tuesday, a dozen eggs and a good hard shag please."

What kind of bastard handwrites a letter with poor spelling, mistakes overwritten on a bit of paper that could have been found at the back of a drawer, to a mother who has just lost her boy?

He is an even bigger w***er than I could have possibly believed.

 

I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. And whatever the rights and wrongs of war, if you join the Army you're not joining up to knit jumpers and grow tomatoes - you join up to fight, and possibly die, for your country. Hazard of the job. Nobody makes you sign up. Unless it's National Service of course, which should be brought back in my opinion. That would sort out some of these lazy hoodies.

[Monoclinic 39]

I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. And whatever the rights and wrongs of war, if you join the Army you're not joining up to knit jumpers and grow tomatoes - you join up to fight, and possibly die, for your country. Hazard of the job. Nobody makes you sign up. Unless it's National Service of course, which should be brought back in my opinion. That would sort out some of these lazy hoodies.

 

I agree. Perhaps The Sun should have first tried shutting one eye, squinting with the other and then try to write in felt tip pen. We are taught not to mock the handicapped so why is the PM fair game?

 

Also, even if he wasn't visually impared, I don't think spelling should be a requirement for the job of a PM. That's why there are assistants. I'd like to see a PM be elected for his vision, strategies, efficiency, ideas, leadership etc. I'm not saying Brown has those qualities I am just saying spelling is NOT important for the job in hand, nor for that matter is it a quality possessed by some geniuses. It is a trivial matter, a view I have come to realise when "mastering" a second language. A lot of the words I have learnt I don't know how to spell simply because I am speaking the language everyday but seldom writing it thanks to the international language of science! Believe me the key thing is to be understood anything else is a bonus. As for getting the name wrong, that I'd hazard a guess is due to someone else's mistake and the PM having confidence in his spelling gimps to have sourced the correct information. Considering the fact something like 96 service personnel have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq this year alone, the PM is writing these letters on average once every 3.3 DAYS. How can one come up with an original and personal letter in these circumstances? I know I couldn't. It must be like groundhog day.

[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219]

I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. And whatever the rights and wrongs of war, if you join the Army you're not joining up to knit jumpers and grow tomatoes - you join up to fight, and possibly die, for your country. Hazard of the job. Nobody makes you sign up. Unless it's National Service of course, which should be brought back in my opinion. That would sort out some of these lazy hoodies.

 

I agree. Perhaps The Sun should have first tried shutting one eye, squinting with the other and then try to write in felt tip pen. We are taught not to mock the handicapped so why is the PM fair game?

 

Also, even if he wasn't visually impared, I don't think spelling should be a requirement for the job of a PM. That's why there are assistants. I'd like to see a PM be elected for his vision, strategies, efficiency, ideas, leadership etc. I'm not saying Brown has those qualities I am just saying spelling is NOT important for the job in hand, nor for that matter is it a quality possessed by some geniuses. It is a trivial matter, a view I have come to realise when "mastering" a second language. A lot of the words I have learnt I don't know how to spell simply because I am speaking the language everyday but seldom writing it thanks to the international language of science! Believe me the key thing is to be understood anything else is a bonus. As for getting the name wrong, that I'd hazard a guess is due to someone else's mistake and the PM having confidence in his spelling gimps to have sourced the correct information. Considering the fact something like 96 service personnel have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq this year alone, the PM is writing these letters on average once every 3.3 DAYS. How can one come up with an original and personal letter in these circumstances? I know I couldn't. It must be like groundhog day.

All true but missing the point.

He isnt Albert Scroggins, Paper clip counter for the MOD he is the Prime Minister.

Spelling IS a requirement when the leader of this Country decides to personally handwrite a letter to the mother of a human being killed in some godforsaken shit hole.

Its about professionalism, respect and judgement.

He may be visually impared, so is David Blunkett, I doubt that he would have tried to write a letter.

The whole point of a handwritten letter is to show that he cares, has empathy, feels the pain, understands, the whole works.

He didnt achieve that, it looks like something he knocked up while in the shithouse.

I fully understand that you dont join the armed forces and then decide what conflict/war you want to fight in, I appreciate the fact that the body count is overwhelming our PMs ability to construct a letter of condolence with a "personal touch" but what I dont understand is how nobody would think that what that mother ended up with was shit.

He wasnt writing it in Serbo Croat, he didnt bother to ask his secretary to have a gander before it was sent and, as a consequence, it all looks rushed like he really hasnt got the time to be fussing over it.

LB is spot on, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt. The fact that he has decided to be damned by taking the route that he has now leaves him double damned.

Im bound to say that he should have seen it coming but, as he never saw a fucking great recession coming and the collapse of our economy coming I cant really be suprised.

[time 8,617]

I actually feel a bit sorry for him. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. And whatever the rights and wrongs of war, if you join the Army you're not joining up to knit jumpers and grow tomatoes - you join up to fight, and possibly die, for your country. Hazard of the job. Nobody makes you sign up. Unless it's National Service of course, which should be brought back in my opinion. That would sort out some of these lazy hoodies.

 

I agree. Perhaps The Sun should have first tried shutting one eye, squinting with the other and then try to write in felt tip pen. We are taught not to mock the handicapped so why is the PM fair game?

 

Also, even if he wasn't visually impared, I don't think spelling should be a requirement for the job of a PM. That's why there are assistants. I'd like to see a PM be elected for his vision, strategies, efficiency, ideas, leadership etc. I'm not saying Brown has those qualities I am just saying spelling is NOT important for the job in hand, nor for that matter is it a quality possessed by some geniuses. It is a trivial matter, a view I have come to realise when "mastering" a second language. A lot of the words I have learnt I don't know how to spell simply because I am speaking the language everyday but seldom writing it thanks to the international language of science! Believe me the key thing is to be understood anything else is a bonus. As for getting the name wrong, that I'd hazard a guess is due to someone else's mistake and the PM having confidence in his spelling gimps to have sourced the correct information. Considering the fact something like 96 service personnel have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq this year alone, the PM is writing these letters on average once every 3.3 DAYS. How can one come up with an original and personal letter in these circumstances? I know I couldn't. It must be like groundhog day.

All true but missing the point.

He isnt Albert Scroggins, Paper clip counter for the MOD he is the Prime Minister.

Spelling IS a requirement when the leader of this Country decides to personally handwrite a letter to the mother of a human being killed in some godforsaken shit hole.

Its about professionalism, respect and judgement.

He may be visually impared, so is David Blunkett, I doubt that he would have tried to write a letter.

The whole point of a handwritten letter is to show that he cares, has empathy, feels the pain, understands, the whole works.

He didnt achieve that, it looks like something he knocked up while in the shithouse.

I fully understand that you dont join the armed forces and then decide what conflict/war you want to fight in, I appreciate the fact that the body count is overwhelming our PMs ability to construct a letter of condolence with a "personal touch" but what I dont understand is how nobody would think that what that mother ended up with was shit.

He wasnt writing it in Serbo Croat, he didnt bother to ask his secretary to have a gander before it was sent and, as a consequence, it all looks rushed like he really hasnt got the time to be fussing over it.

LB is spot on, he is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt. The fact that he has decided to be damned by taking the route that he has now leaves him double damned.

Im bound to say that he should have seen it coming but, as he never saw a fucking great recession coming and the collapse of our economy coming I cant really be suprised.

 

For what its worth, my opinion is that the content of this letter is of greater importance than its presentation but having said that, being a Prime Minister that huge numbers of people are waiting to see fall flat on his face, why wasn't it checked before being sent to Mrs James Janes?

 

I particularly like the irony in Mono's post

I'd like to see a PM be elected for his vision

almost matched by LFN

Im bound to say that he should have seen it coming

.

 

For further reading I can recommend our local paper, The Argus, where readers comments seem to be coming down largely on Mr Brown's side, with some particularly scathing criticism of our wonderful press.

[Monoclinic 39]

I particularly like the irony in Mono's post

I'd like to see a PM be elected for his vision

almost matched by LFN

Im bound to say that he should have seen it coming

.

 

 

Full marks, I had originally typed ideas

[Rotten Ali 600]

I'm sure we all share the grief of this mother. But these guys are fully in the loop that joining the forces can be very dangerous. The letter from Gordon Brown was worse the further down it went. It's the first time I've seen it in full on here. I had thought that it was a set up job on the PM but like LFN says that in totality it looks very poor. My view is that Brown is very tense and worn down. He should have known he has such a poor hand writing style and the people round him should have asked that he just "top & tailed" these letter with no more than a brief personal comment in the foot. With limited sight, he needs to help himself.

Should we ask that David Blunket hand write his letters to his voters?

Brown had to take a whole month off during the summer and this sort of critical review won't help him in any way. He's not a good communicator, and at this rate he's leading the Labour party into oblivion. I really think that Brown now needs to fes-up to us that the job has taken it's toll on him and to be PM beyond the next election is too much to ask. He's got a youngster with special medical needs and that's where he needs to devote his time and energy.

[Tuber Mirum 125]

I believe someone who is Prime Minister of Britain should simply be able to spell and to produce halfway decent handwriting when the moment demands it.

 

Nobody expects anything other than a standard letter from the PM when their nearest and dearest fall in action and if he was even slightly organised he could have some prepared beforehand. It would make a better impression than an illiterate scrawl anyway.

 

Literacy is not much to ask from our leaders. Most ordinary people can still write properly, even though looking at many people's Facebook pages in the UK it is clearly on a steep decline.

 

He doesn't have to be Enoch Powell, but somebody in a position of authority should be able to set us all an example. Otherwise he has no business being Prime Minister. Given his spelling, I wonder if the former Chancellor of the Exchequer has a grasp of basic arithmetic?

 

PS: I sat next to Gordon Brown on a train once, back in the '80s. He was with some of his cronies. First off I was impressed to see him travelling second class and secondly they appeared to be takling sense. Of course that was back in the days when labour was still a people's party.

[Josco 49]

Excellent synopsis NAP (apart from the part below....)

 

[edit]

First off I was impressed to see him travelling second class and secondly they appeared to be takling sense. [/edit]

[Boudicca 702]

Chester draws

 

Pine.

 

Chester pine draws.

 

I covet them.

[Banshees Scream 110]

I covet them.

I'm more into anything modern, if you don't mind me saying. The temptation itself is temporary just as is the adrenalin rush we experience after purchasing these much desired objects which sit and collect the dust after we grow tired of raving about the everlasting joy they bring into our aging lives. I may have succumbed to a spenders impulses once before, many times before to be precise. But we must be great resistors of this temptation and control our desires.

 

The key words I speak of tonight are "Resist" and "Desire". I believe that he who resists unnecessary desire will strengthen the will power or "the consumers immune system" and by suppressing this hunger it will lead to a greater inner peace which speaks volumes. But sometimes we find pleasure in resisting the desire. Should we give in? What if we are persuaded to give in? I like the temptation but I seldom give in.

[honez 79]

I covet them.

I'm more into anything modern, if you don't mind me saying. The temptation itself is temporary just as is the adrenalin rush we experience after purchasing these much desired objects which sit and collect the dust after we grow tired of raving about the everlasting joy they bring into our aging lives. I may have succumbed to a spenders impulses once before, many times before to be precise. But we must be great resistors of this temptation and control our desires.

 

The key words I speak of tonight are "Resist" and "Desire". I believe that he who resists unnecessary desire will strengthen the will power or "the consumers immune system" and by suppressing this hunger it will lead to a greater inner peace which speaks volumes. But sometimes we find pleasure in resisting the desire. Should we give in? What if we are persuaded to give in? I like the temptation but I seldom give in.

But Banshee, no-one can resist Chester draws.

[Monoclinic 39]

I covet them.

I'm more into anything modern, if you don't mind me saying. The temptation itself is temporary just as is the adrenalin rush we experience after purchasing these much desired objects which sit and collect the dust after we grow tired of raving about the everlasting joy they bring into our aging lives. I may have succumbed to a spenders impulses once before, many times before to be precise. But we must be great resistors of this temptation and control our desires.

 

The key words I speak of tonight are "Resist" and "Desire". I believe that he who resists unnecessary desire will strengthen the will power or "the consumers immune system" and by suppressing this hunger it will lead to a greater inner peace which speaks volumes. But sometimes we find pleasure in resisting the desire. Should we give in? What if we are persuaded to give in? I like the temptation but I seldom give in.

 

Like a florist in Wooton Bassett, Banshees cream posting utter claptrap; a flourishing industry.

[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219]

I covet them.

I'm more into anything modern, if you don't mind me saying. The temptation itself is temporary just as is the adrenalin rush we experience after purchasing these much desired objects which sit and collect the dust after we grow tired of raving about the everlasting joy they bring into our aging lives. I may have succumbed to a spenders impulses once before, many times before to be precise. But we must be great resistors of this temptation and control our desires.

 

The key words I speak of tonight are "Resist" and "Desire". I believe that he who resists unnecessary desire will strengthen the will power or "the consumers immune system" and by suppressing this hunger it will lead to a greater inner peace which speaks volumes. But sometimes we find pleasure in resisting the desire. Should we give in? What if we are persuaded to give in? I like the temptation but I seldom give in.

This resist and desire thing, Banshees old boy.

Utter bollocks.

[Madame Defarge 21]

This resist and desire thing, Banshees old boy.

Utter bollocks.

 

Not entirely, Nelly old bean. Some would argue that because the United States has stopped manufacturing things, our economy relies on people buying things they don't need with money they don't have. Too many Chester Draws, and the country gets maxed out and the bubble bursts. Or something like that.

[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219]

This resist and desire thing, Banshees old boy.

Utter bollocks.

 

Not entirely, Nelly old bean. Some would argue that because the United States has stopped manufacturing things, our economy relies on people buying things they don't need with money they don't have. Too many Chester Draws, and the country gets maxed out and the bubble bursts. Or something like that.

Ah, Madame, swap the words United States for the United Kingdom, its the same story here.

I accept the principles of the argument but I reject the reality of its conclusions.

The fact that I bought a new car I didnt REALLY need and a new House that I didnt REALLY need has meant some French person held down a job a bit longer, the dealership in this country has got a sale, made commision and kept the wolf from the door and the builders that put my house up have been able to eat.

All thanks to credit.

I think the problem wasnt whether we made anything or gave credit it was more a case of giving credit to any old sod and allowing people to gamble with billions of pounds netting them huge bonuses ( before the results of their gambles were even known ) and, of course, the obligatory hard on.

Hey, bubbles burst every so often, this is the second recession that I can remember and have worked through.

We will all come out of it, all those promises about "never again" will go to the wall and we will all be living beyond our means ( a generic term) in the future......until that bubble bursts again.

The risks are huge but the rewards are colossal, thats why there will always be credit available to even the biggest risks..

If Im talking shite, just kick me.

[Josco 49]

If Im talking shite, just kick me.

 

If you insist.

 

[Magere Hein 1,400]

I think the problem wasnt whether we made anything or gave credit it was more a case of giving credit to any old sod and allowing people to gamble with billions of pounds netting them huge bonuses ( before the results of their gambles were even known ) and, of course, the obligatory hard on.

Hey, bubbles burst every so often, this is the second recession that I can remember and have worked through.

We will all come out of it, all those promises about "never again" will go to the wall and we will all be living beyond our means ( a generic term) in the future......until that bubble bursts again.

The risks are huge but the rewards are colossal, thats why there will always be credit available to even the biggest risks..

If Im talking shite, just kick me.

If I remember my economics classes at Uni correctly, there's a lot of truth in the above. First of all we must remember that economy and money aren't the same thing, even though they are related. A moneyless economy is possible, if not very efficient. As long as a territory produces the stuff it needs and distributes that stuff to the people who need it, it's not particularly important who pays the bills. Trade, imports and exports make this more complicated, but the principle holds.

 

The nasty thing about western type economies is that a lot of people make their income from services, while their basic needs come from imports. If the trade system collapses due to monetary difficulties, the shops soon look like this:

 

 

regards,

Hein

[Monoclinic 39]

I'm more concerned about the fact the story implies LFN bought a French car. I don't like them, even the modern ones. Driving the length of the Netherlands in a uni Twingo without power steering was the final nail in the coffin. Or more precisely hanging about on a motorway just outside of Antwerpen on the return hammered in that nail.

[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219]

I'm more concerned about the fact the story implies LFN bought a French car. I don't like them, even the modern ones. Driving the length of the Netherlands in a uni Twingo without power steering was the final nail in the coffin. Or more precisely hanging about on a motorway just outside of Antwerpen on the return hammered in that nail.

I have to say my lil Clio is fuggin ace. Renault have finally built a car where you dont need very short legs and very long arms to drive it.

Besides, I could hardly let Pierre go hungry, could I?