Deathray 2,941 Posted March 2, 2014 Seen as the discussion in the End Times thread wasn't welcome I thought I'd start a new thread for following developments in Ukraine. The Navy Chief has defected in support of Crimea. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26410431 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,122 Posted March 2, 2014 Seen as the discussion in the End Times thread wasn't welcome I thought I'd start a new thread for following developments in Ukraine. The Navy Chief has defected in support of Crimea. http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-26410431 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted March 2, 2014 Bit dated perhaps but maybe Cameron might be having this sort of conversation soon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,271 Posted March 2, 2014 Aren't we giving the gormless bastard too much credit by assuming he's engaging in any strategic talk? He's probably having a three way with Rebekah Brooks and a horse right now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted March 2, 2014 Willie Hague no longer going to the Paralympics because of this. Thats GB denied a certain Gold in the ''wee bald smarmy shit stakes'' then 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted March 2, 2014 Aren't we giving the gormless bastard too much credit by assuming he's engaging in any strategic talk? He's probably having a three way with Rebekah Brooks and a horse right now. You're probably right, it looks like William Hague is being manoeuvred into scapegoat position when this all blows up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,271 Posted March 2, 2014 Cameron is the worst excuse for a Prime Minister we've had since the days of the 1700s when some corpulent, drunk, gonorrhea-riddled monarch named James the 72nd (or whatever) used to just appoint his favourite bridge partner/port-drinking buddy/croquet pal etc. What a worthless cunt. Timmy Mallett would do a better job. (Sorry for going off-topic. You may continue predicting apocalypse and biting your fingernails down to nothing now.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted March 2, 2014 Was just searching for a thread to bump for that Bobak wifie (failed to find it) but came across the Georgia v Russia one. Already doing better than that one as it hit a total of 5 replies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted March 2, 2014 Cameron is the worst excuse for a Prime Minister we've had since the days of the 1700s when some corpulent, drunk, gonorrhea-riddled monarch named James the 72nd (or whatever) used to just appoint his favourite bridge partner/port-drinking buddy/croquet pal etc. What a worthless cunt. Timmy Mallett would do a better job. (Sorry for going off-topic. You may continue predicting apocalypse and biting your fingernails down to nothing now.) Watch it. You might be having a go at one of his distant relatives! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted March 3, 2014 I hate the way our media are making out russia are bad guys in this ? Ok they aren't wholly innocent but i wonder what would happen if Russia instigated regime change in Mexico . Fact of the matter is This guy was a democratically elected leader overthrown by a bunch of thugs led by a boxer, just think about that for a minute. Simply because he wanted closer ties with Russia not the EU or USA, a peaceful solution would be to give Crimea back to Russia and split Ukraine in two . Why force the Russian ethnic parts of Ukraine into a union they want no part of? The rebels that overthrew the Ukrainian government have threatened to cleanse Ukraine of non Ukrainian's and the threat is there. But Obama and the west greatly underestimated Putin , he is running circle's around them especially Obama . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Body Snatcher 44 107 Posted March 3, 2014 I hate the way our media are making out russia are bad guys in this ? Ok they aren't wholly innocent but i wonder what would happen if Russia instigated regime change in Mexico . Fact of the matter is This guy was a democratically elected leader overthrown by a bunch of thugs led by a boxer, just think about that for a minute. Simply because he wanted closer ties with Russia not the EU or USA, a peaceful solution would be to give Crimea back to Russia and split Ukraine in two . Why force the Russian ethnic parts of Ukraine into a union they want no part of? The rebels that overthrew the Ukrainian government have threatened to cleanse Ukraine of non Ukrainian's and the threat is there. But Obama and the west greatly underestimated Putin , he is running circle's around them especially Obama . I'd image the presence of Russian troops in the Crimea would be of great relief to the people there. A sense of stability and solidarity would go a long way to preventing a civil war on Russia's doorstep. The question is What is Putin's true motive? is the Russian presence solely for the aforementioned purpose, or is it Putin capitalising on this revolution to enable Russian expansion. Time will tell. Although the west does have a dog in this fight, America's role will largely remain impotent - the Russians simply beat them this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted March 3, 2014 Russia have basically vowed to occupy Crimea. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26414600 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted March 3, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26424738 Ultimatum of 3am GMT issued for Ukraine to surrender and talk of NATO sending rapid response force in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted March 3, 2014 They're going to have to give it up. I can't see the Ukrainians putting up much of a fight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted March 3, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-26424738 Ultimatum of 3am GMT issued for Ukraine to surrender and talk of NATO sending rapid response force in. Putin is laughing his ass off at all these weak pathetic western leaders. His occupation of Crtimea is a fate accompli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted March 3, 2014 UK govts entire strategy on Russia has been blown apart tonight after top secret document was photographed http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-26426969 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted March 3, 2014 Pish....here is the real footage.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted March 3, 2014 So we have less than 5 hours until the apocalypse of Ukraine. I wonder what Putin's next move is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,221 Posted March 3, 2014 So we have less than 5 hours until the apocalypse of Ukraine. I wonder what Putin's next move is? Fucking hell, calm down and have a slice of toast!!!! Russia will claim back a territory that wishes to be part of, and has always aligned itself to Russia Other Eastern regions may well follow suit, infact It will be difficult to see how they wont. Its a "Do bears shit in the Woods scenario..." Furthermore, for those cynical bastards like me, it would be very "unfortunate" for the Ukraine to head back into the arms of Russia and not head West into the bosom of Europe, I mean, we need another bankrupt nation sucking the fucking life out of us like we need another hole up our arse. What can the Ukraine do for us that Russia cannot? Erm,make us considerably poorer? Our notion of democracy differs from many. Some believe that even a marginal victory entitles them to do what the fuck they like, well 52% of the population may back that but the other 48% dont and thats when it all goes pear shaped. You win an election then fuck off nearly half the population that didnt actually want you, civil disorder is going to be a given, right? Lets all sit back and watch the Cabaret............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted March 3, 2014 It is funny the twist and turns the right here are making over Ukraine in terms of what they supposedly want. Ukraine: We want to be free of Russia Daily Mail & Co: Hurrah! Ukraine: We want to join the EU Daily Mail & Co: (thinks a minute about all those lovely Ukrainian immigrants taking our fruit-picking jobs and the govt loading their hopeless finances onto the rest of Europe) Fuck off! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,221 Posted March 3, 2014 It is funny the twist and turns the right here are making over Ukraine in terms of what they supposedly want. Ukraine: We want to be free of Russia Daily Mail & Co: Hurrah! Ukraine: We want to join the EU Daily Mail & Co: (thinks a minute about all those lovely Ukrainian immigrants taking our fruit-picking jobs and the govt loading their hopeless finances onto the rest of Europe) Fuck off! Im hoping that Russia decides to chance its arm further West and start dropping troops into Glasgow or summat and................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rotten Ali 600 Posted March 3, 2014 Don't say that, they already have a bloody great hole in the roof of one pub... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guylevesque 18 Posted March 4, 2014 Unconfirmed reports Yanukovych died or atleast suffered from a heart attack. Not to be taken seriously. Found this on Faceshit and Twitter's talking about it also. https://www.facebook.com/mike.lebed/posts/10202264572029897 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,271 Posted March 4, 2014 Cameron is the worst excuse for a Prime Minister we've had since the days of the 1700s when some corpulent, drunk, gonorrhea-riddled monarch named James the 72nd (or whatever) used to just appoint his favourite bridge partner/port-drinking buddy/croquet pal etc. What a worthless cunt. Timmy Mallett would do a better job. (Sorry for going off-topic. You may continue predicting apocalypse and biting your fingernails down to nothing now.) Watch it. You might be having a go at one of his distant relatives! Well, he probably has no idea that they're his relatives. And in fact I also have suspected that there might have been a bit of "not realising they were related"-type stuff going on between past members of his family who were much less historically remote from each other if you know what I mean! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted March 4, 2014 I have a question. Why is the west supporting a govt in Kiev that wasn't elected by anyone and who toppled the democratically elected president in a coup? Is Russia not entitled to protect it's supporters in Ukraine? Or am I just really dumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
