Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted May 30, 2021 Telegraph death notice for John Roper-Curzon, 20th Baron Teynham (wiki), aged 92. Conservative member of the House of Lords from 1972 to 1999. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted June 26, 2021 Interesting one, death notice for Hugh Lowther, 8th Earl of Lonsdale: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/250496/lowther As his adopted son was born by artificial insemination, that son apparently cannot inherit the title. Nobs and their rules, eh? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted June 26, 2021 5 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Interesting one, death notice for Hugh Lowther, 8th Earl of Lonsdale: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/250496/lowther As his adopted son was born by artificial insemination, that son apparently cannot inherit the title. Nobs and their rules, eh? The artificial insemination part isn’t relevant. The fact that the sperm used wasn’t his own is. With aristocratic titles, the entire tradition is built around maintaining a clear bloodline. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,170 Posted June 26, 2021 5 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Interesting one, death notice for Hugh Lowther, 8th Earl of Lonsdale: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/250496/lowther As his adopted son was born by artificial insemination, that son apparently cannot inherit the title. Nobs and their rules, eh? i see what you did there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted June 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: The artificial insemination part isn’t relevant. The fact that the sperm used wasn’t his own is. With aristocratic titles, the entire tradition is built around maintaining a clear bloodline. Disgusting establishment practice. Hope his son gets all the assets and the inheritor just gets the title and nothing else. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Life Is Beautiful 718 Posted June 26, 2021 I thought this was a thread about the Gilbert Gottfried joke. Disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted August 5, 2021 On 14/07/2018 at 04:41, YoungWillz said: You know, I feel we are always late to the party with this thread. So why not have one of my world famous lists? If you are looking for a nob or two around Christmas to fill out your DDP package, it might do to consider some of these. Why have diamonds and pearls when you can have Dukes, Marquesses and Earls? I've gone for those over 80 currently or who will be over 80 in 2019. In order of seniority. Wiki is my friend here, any errors are theirs not mine. Ireland: William Anthony Nugent, 13th Earl of Westmeath (b. 1928) Derry Moore, 12th Earl of Drogheda (b. 1937) Arthur Gore, 9th Earl of Arran (b. 1938) John Savile, 8th Earl of Mexborough (b. 1931) - No individual Wiki Page Robert Jocelyn, 10th Earl of Roden (b. 1938) - No individual Wiki Page Alexander McDonnell, 9th Earl of Antrim (b. 1935) Thomas Pakenham, 8th Earl of Longford (b. 1933) George Dawson-Damer, 7th Earl of Portarlington (b. 1938) - No individual Wiki Page Michael Annesley, 12th Earl of Annesley (b. 1933) - No individual Wiki Page Arthur Stewart, 8th Earl Castle Stewart (b. 1928) Richard Hely-Hutchinson, 8th Earl of Donoughmore (b. 1927) Brendan Parsons, 7th Earl of Rosse (b. 1936) Gerald Knox, 7th Earl of Ranfurly (b. 1929) - No individual Wiki Page Telegraph Obit for Alexander McDonnell, 9th Earl of Antrim: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2021/08/05/earl-antrim-authority-art-served-keeper-conservation-tate-gallery/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted August 6, 2021 Updating the list of Dukes, Marquesses and Earls who will reach 80 or over by or in 2022 (again, Wiki is my friend, any errors are theirs): Dukes: James Graham, 8th Duke of Montrose (b. 1935) James Hamilton, 5th Duke of Abercorn (b. 1934) Prince Edward, 2nd Duke of Kent (b. 1935) Murray de Vere Beauclerk, 14th Duke of St Albans (b. 1939) Francis Egerton, 7th Duke of Sutherland (b. 1940) Marquesses: Nigel Paulet, 18th Marquess of Winchester (b. 1941) David Douglas, 12th Marquess of Queensbury (b. 1929) Charles Petty-Fitzmaurice, 9th Marquess of Lansdowne (b. 1941) Michael Cecil, 8th Marquess of Exeter (b. 1935) David Pratt, 6th Marquess Camden (b. 1930) - No individual Wiki page. Michael Brudenell-Bruce, 8th Marquess of Ailesbury (b. 1926) Mark Dundas, 4th Marquess of Zetland (b. 1937) Simon Isaacs, 4th Marquess of Reading (b. 1942) Earls: England: Michael Howard, 21st Earl of Suffolk, 14th Earl of Berkshire (b. 1935; d. 2022) Richard Bertie, 14th Earl of Lindsey and 9th Earl of Abingdon (b. 1931) George Coventry, 13th Earl of Coventry (b. 1939) Scotland: Robert Lindsay, 29th Earl of Crawford (b. 1927) Margaret of Mar, 31st Countess of Mar (b. 1940) Malcolm Erskine, 17th Earl of Buchan (b. 1930) - No individual Wiki Page John Eric Drummond, 9th Earl of Perth (b. 1935) Ian Maitland, 18th Earl of Lauderdale (b. 1937) Andrew Bruce, 11th Earl of Elgin and 15th Earl of Kincardine (b. 1924) David Ogilvy, 13th Earl of Airlie (b. 1926) Patrick Carnegy, 15th Earl of Northesk (b. 1940) Filippo Rospigliosi, 11th Prince Rospigliosi and 12th Earl of Newburgh (b. 1942) - No Individual Wiki Page Patrick Hope-Johnstone, 11th Earl of Annandale and Hartfell (b. 1941) Peter St John, 9th Earl of Orkney (b. 1938) Ian Ogilvie-Grant, 13th Earl of Seafield (b. 1939) Neil Primrose, 7th Earl of Rosebery and 3rd Earl of Midlothian (b. 1929) Patrick Boyle, 10th Earl of Glasgow (b. 1939) Great Britain: James Waldegrave, 13th Earl Waldegrave (b. 1940) Robin Fox-Strangways, 10th Earl of Ilchester (b. 1942) - No Individual Wiki Page Charles Cadogan, 8th Earl Cadogan (b. 1937) Ireland: William Anthony Nugent, 13th Earl of Westmeath (b. 1928) John Brabazon, 15th Earl of Meath (b. 1941) - No Individual Wiki Page Derry Moore, 12th Earl of Drogheda (b. 1937) Myles Ponsonby, 12th Earl of Bessborough (b. 1941) Arthur Gore, 9th Earl of Arran (b. 1938) John Savile, 8th Earl of Mexborough (b. 1931) - No individual Wiki Page Robert Jocelyn, 10th Earl of Roden (b. 1938) - No individual Wiki Page Thomas Pakenham, 8th Earl of Longford (b. 1933) George Dawson-Damer, 7th Earl of Portarlington (b. 1938) - No individual Wiki Page Michael Annesley, 12th Earl of Annesley (b. 1933) - No individual Wiki Page Andrew Cole, 7th Earl of Enniskillen (b. 1942) - No Individual Wiki Page Arthur Stuart, 8th Earl Castle Stewart (b. 1928) Richard Hely-Hutchinson, 8th Earl of Donoughmore (b. 1927) Charles Acheson, 7th Earl of Gosford (b. 1942) - No Individual Wiki Page Brendan Parsons, 7th Earl of Rosse (b. 1936) Sir Richard Needham, 6th Earl of Kilmorey (b. 1942) United Kingdom: Francis Grosvenor, 8th Earl of Wilton (b. 1934) Philip Grey, 7th Earl Grey (b. 1940) Keith Rous, 6th Earl of Stradbroke (b. 1937) - No individual Wiki Page David Howard, 7th Earl of Effingham (b. 1939; d. 2022) - No individual Wiki Page Simon Cairns, 6th Earl Cairns (b. 1939) Gathorne Gathorne-Hardy, 5th Earl Cranbrook (b. 1933) Grey Ruthven, 2nd Earl of Gowrie (b. 1939; d. 2021) Shane Alexander, 2nd Earl Alexander of Tunis (b. 1935) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted August 6, 2021 Most recent photos I could find of the oldest from those lists, the 11th Earl of Elgin (97). In 2017: In 2014 (interviewed about the Scottish independence referendum as he’s the current “Robert the Bruce” technically): 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,419 Posted August 18, 2021 On 03/06/2020 at 15:00, Ulitzer95 said: Nicolas Rea, 3rd Baron Rea, died on Monday aged 91 according to the UK Parliament site. Before taking an active role in the House, he was an Army doctor, serving in Nigeria before becoming a GP in north London. A hereditary peer, he first sat in the House of Lords in 1982 and was elected to remain in 1999 when the reforms came in. His death means that The 3rd Viscount Simon, 79, is the last Labour hereditary elected to stay in 1999 still living. 3rd Viscount Simon has died. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Thatcher said: 3rd Viscount Simon has died. I think I'm right in saying that there is no heir so this title now becomes extinct? There will have to be a Labour peers by-election to replace him. Be interesting to see who they put up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted August 22, 2021 Report of the death of Lady Katharine Tait, the daughter of Bertrand Russell: She founded the Bertrand Russell Society in 1974 and was a well-published author of various works pertaining to her father's work. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,419 Posted September 9, 2021 On 04/01/2021 at 14:42, Thatcher said: Lady Mary Colman, The Queen’s first cousin, has died aged 88. Wife of Sir Timothy Colman who is still knocking about aged 91. Obituaries: Daily Express, Daily Star Sir Timothy Colman has died aged 91. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chel 376 Posted September 15, 2021 Elzbieta Tomashevska, nee Radziwill, daughter of the penultimate owner of the castle in Nesvizh, Prince Albrecht Radziwill and the Englishwoman Dorothy Parker Deacon, died at the age of 103 July 20. https://belsat.eu/pl/news/21-07-2021-zmarla-elzbieta-radziwill-jej-domem-byl-zamek-w-nieswiezu/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chilean way 1,901 Posted September 24, 2021 On 05/08/2021 at 20:31, YoungWillz said: Updating the list of Dukes, Marquesses and Earls who will reach 80 or over by or in 2022 (again, Wiki is my friend, any errors are theirs): Earls: United Kingdom: Grey Ruthven, 2nd Earl of Gowrie (b. 1939) Dead https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lord-gowrie-obituary-8v2qmw8cz 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,491 Posted September 24, 2021 Knew he looked ill on that show last year. Why do I never take note of my own forum musings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted October 4, 2021 Countess Ruth Beatrice Meyer-Bechtler, wife of Robert Lindsay, 29th Earl of Crawford, has died aged 96: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/252591/crawford The former MP and peer really should be on radar now. He is of course a current DDP pick. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alt obits guy 3,374 Posted October 21, 2021 Lady Margaret Stirling-Aird, whose first husband, Capt Oliver Payan Dawnay, was a private secretary and equerry to the Queen Mother, has died. She was 101. Their divorce resulted in ostracism from the Royal Family. https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2021/10/lady-margaret-dorothea-stirling-aird.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, alt obits guy said: Lady Margaret Stirling-Aird, whose first husband, Capt Oliver Payan Dawnay, was a private secretary and equerry to the Queen Mother, has died. She was 101. Their divorce resulted in ostracism from the Royal Family. https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/2021/10/lady-margaret-dorothea-stirling-aird.html Probably should mention she was the daughter and last surviving child of fascist supporting Patrick Boyle, 8th Earl of Glasgow. A particularly nasty piece of work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted October 21, 2021 53 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Probably should mention she was the daughter and last surviving child of fascist supporting Patrick Boyle, 8th Earl of Glasgow. A particularly nasty piece of work. Weird to think his grandson, the current Earl of Glasgow is a Lib Dem peer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,086 Posted November 2, 2021 Sir Keith Skinner, 4th Baronet, aged 93 Death Notice: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/253165/skinner They are all called Thomas (after the first baronet) but they don't seem to use the name, even the heir is James rather than Thomas. Instructional in the ways of the aristos, the baronetcy relates to a fucking street in Chelsea. Yes, m'lord, until he's 3 blocks away. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,347 Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Sir Keith Skinner, 4th Baronet, aged 93 Death Notice: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/253165/skinner They are all called Thomas (after the first baronet) but they don't seem to use the name, even the heir is James rather than Thomas. Instructional in the ways of the aristos, the baronetcy relates to a fucking street in Chelsea. Yes, m'lord, until he's 3 blocks away. So many elderly aristocrats dying. Surely it can't be long before either nongenarian David Ogilvy the Earl of Airlie or 101 year old The Dowager Duchess of Grafton brings me some success... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,347 Posted December 4, 2021 On 02/11/2021 at 00:22, Gooseberry Crumble said: So many elderly aristocrats dying. Surely it can't be long before either nongenarian David Ogilvy the Earl of Airlie or 101 year old The Dowager Duchess of Grafton brings me some success... This post feels a bit like some Mystic Meg style foreshadowing now...! I wonder if the same fate will soon meet David Ogilvy The Earl of Airlie who also used to work for the Queen and is the brother in law of Princess Alexandra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,170 Posted December 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said: I wonder if the same fate will soon meet David Ogilvy The Earl of Airlie who also used to work for the Queen and is the brother in law of Princess Alexandra. And the great-uncle of ... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GEMINEYE 207 Posted December 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Toast said: And the great-uncle of ... Joey Essex? Well i never.... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
