DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Toast said: Now they will take us out of the ECHR in a further attack on our rights and reputation. Not that they'll take heed but the Judges specifically stated it would still be unlawful regardles of being in or out of ECHR 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted November 15, 2023 Who else but 30p Lee of course Another one I'm looking forward to seeing storming off in a huff on Election night 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted November 15, 2023 Of course it wasn't Brendan...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,150 Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Not that they'll take heed but the Judges specifically stated it would still be unlawful regardles of being in or out of ECHR Yes, I've read/listened to an explanation of that now. That's a relief. Can anyone remember why they decided not to send illegals back to France? Didn't France offer to process asylum claims on their soil or something like that? Or am I misremembering? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted November 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Toast said: Yes, I've read/listened to an explanation of that now. That's a relief. Can anyone remember why they decided not to send illegals back to France? Didn't France offer to process asylum claims on their soil or something like that? Or am I misremembering? Speaking of which 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,402 Posted November 15, 2023 Briefly peeked behind the 'Ignore shite curled out by @The Old Crem' filter to see what three posts in succession warranted. As it turns out, the cunt's just browsing through Twitter noisily. Such an unnecessary contribution. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, TQR said: Briefly peeked behind the 'Ignore shite curled out by @The Old Crem' filter to see what three posts in succession warranted. As it turns out, the cunt's just browsing through Twitter noisily. Such an unnecessary contribution. So rude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted November 15, 2023 Is Rishi alright Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted November 15, 2023 5 hours ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Who else but 30p Lee of course Another one I'm looking forward to seeing storming off in a huff on Election night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: Makes you wonder why Ted Heath didn't try that line in response to the Rivers of Blood. "I think what Enoch's comments - and indeed the comments of others - do is reflect the strength of feeling in the country on the issue." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted November 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Makes you wonder why Ted Heath didn't try that line in response to the Rivers of Blood. "I think what Enoch's comments - and indeed the comments of others - do is reflect the strength of feeling in the country on the issue." Half his shadow cabinet would have resigned had he tired that. And Powell had ordinary people going on strike in support of him and was popular with around half the country. Suella and her mates like Lee Anderson are not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Is Rishi alright Seems like the legislation is going to allow for ECHR withdrawal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted November 15, 2023 What a monumental bellend. So that's his excuse teed up when he gets booted out at the GE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, The Old Crem said: That's not why they've resigned though. It's a simple parliamentary procedure. The party have issued their instructions. They want to defy those instructions. They can do that and remain Labour MPs. They cannot do that and remain Shadow Ministers. I have no problem with something like this being a matter of conscience, give it 6 months and they could well be reinstated. And for some of them, it could actually be the difference between them holding their seats rather than losing them, which would actually work in Keir's favour long-term. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted November 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: That's not why they've resigned though. It's a simple parliamentary procedure. The party have issued their instructions. They want to defy those instructions. They can do that and remain Labour MPs. They cannot do that and remain Shadow Ministers. I have no problem with something like this being a matter of conscience, give it 6 months and they could well be reinstated. And for some of them, it could actually be the difference between them holding their seats rather than losing them, which would actually work in Keir's favour long-term. Relatively unlikely any seats will be lost over this and even if they do they should avoid bowing down to some extremely hardline people who would be ones challenging them (See Bethnal Green and Bow 2005 and how ugly the successful campaign by George Galloway to beat Oona King was.) And nobody would have blamed her if she didn’t fancy being a higher target by terrorists after what happened to her sister. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted November 15, 2023 Just now, TQR said: I’m glad my MP is on the list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites