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[Toast 16,131]

MP criticised for behaving 'abominably' in Commons

 

Yes, it was a Tory.  Victoria Atkins.

Isn't she one of the names being floated for the leadership?

 

Disappointing to see Chope as Deputy Speaker but at least he admonished one of his own.

[The Old Crem 3,582]

3 minutes ago, Toast said:

MP criticised for behaving 'abominably' in Commons

 

Yes, it was a Tory.  Victoria Atkins.

Isn't she one of the names being floated for the leadership?

 

Disappointing to see Chope as Deputy Speaker but at least he admonished one of his own.

 Chope is only a temporary deputy speaker unti the new three are elected.  I don’t think he is popular enough to be voted as a permanent one if he wanted to.

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2 hours ago, Toast said:

MP criticised for behaving 'abominably' in Commons

 

Yes, it was a Tory.  Victoria Atkins.

Isn't she one of the names being floated for the leadership?

 

Disappointing to see Chope as Deputy Speaker but at least he admonished one of his own.

It's been suggested that he needed to be prompted to administer the admonishment (chap on the left of the chair as we look at it). There's definitely some conversation before Chope calls for order.

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30 minutes ago, time said:

It's been suggested that he needed to be prompted to administer the admonishment (chap on the left of the chair as we look at it). There's definitely some conversation before Chope calls for order.

 

I think they both reacted at the same time, more or less. 

Badenough was at it as well.  He should have pulled her up earlier.

As for the shouting and other noises, animals have better manners than this lot.

[Brad252 807]

6 hours ago, Toast said:

MP criticised for behaving 'abominably' in Commons

 

Yes, it was a Tory.  Victoria Atkins.

Isn't she one of the names being floated for the leadership?

 

Disappointing to see Chope as Deputy Speaker but at least he admonished one of his own.

If it ever becomes possible to harness arrogance for future energy needs, she can join the many other Tories capable of powering the world off it.

[The Old Crem 3,582]

 

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Tory MP Roger Gale, 80, is standing to be Deputy Speaker in the HoC.

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I would understand completely if you didn't want to face a second of such an awful TV program but Laura Kuenssberg has just been buried somewhere just below the Earth's mantle by Rachel Reeves.

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This parody piece in Private Eye could quite easily not have been.

 

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'Owen Jones'? don't start me on yet another rant, this time ranking Grauniad journalists.

Actually do....

 

Simon Jenkins - privileged tosspot with a Nimby attitude to anything and everything. Last seen pacing areas around his Primrose Hill (North London) mansion seeking brownfield sites far enough away to build flats for the proles. The entire comments section is devoted to people very reasonably questioning why he is employed by The Guardian at all, should be at The Torygraph. Rating 0 (and struggled to make that).

 

Eva Wisebore - Hasn't written a thing that wasn't related to babies or children for about 2 years since she had one herself. Used to be boring, now boring and one dimensional. Must be related to somebody in charge, it's stealing a living. Rating 1.

 

Zoe Williams - Seems to do at least 50% of the work in that place and seeing as how she's never given a moments peace does a stirling job on any number of disparate subjects. Probably has to empty Wisebores waste paper basket on her day off. Rating  9.

 

Ok, I've got too tedious now, maybe I'll do some more later if you people are really unlucky.

 

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[RoverAndOut 4,746]

14 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

 

 

I think the neo-cons doth protest too much... 

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Since becoming PM, Keir Starmer's net approval rating has gone from -1% to +19%, and feelings of optimism has surged from 31% of the public to 45%.

 

It might be about to get even better, too; one of the major points of criticism from a lot of people was the failure of him and Chancellor Rachel Reeves to commit to scrapping the two-child benefit cap, but Starmer and Ed. Sec. Bridget Phillipson are now saying the measure is being considered in their child poverty review.

 

I say again, apart from Wes Sterfing, it's been a great start to this new era.

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Feel free to post this in Kamala Harris' thread and stir the pot 

 

Nigel Führage, the skid stain on the pants of modern day politics, weighed in on Harris' candidacy for POTUS, saying that he "cannot see the Democrats getting rid of a black African woman".

Kamala Harris was born in California, to a Tamil Indian mother and Jamaican father.

 

Over to Queen Kath:

 

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59 minutes ago, TQR said:

Since becoming PM, Keir Starmer's net approval rating has gone from -1% to +19%, and feelings of optimism has surged from 31% of the public to 45%.

 

It might be about to get even better, too; one of the major points of criticism from a lot of people was the failure of him and Chancellor Rachel Reeves to commit to scrapping the two-child benefit cap, but Starmer and Ed. Sec. Bridget Phillipson are now saying the measure is being considered in their child poverty review.

 

I say again, apart from Wes Sterfing, it's been a great start to this new era.

I might but sadly Polls do show the public as whole actually support the two - child benefit cap so it might not have much of an effect. 

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2 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Polls show the public as whole actually support the two - child benefit cap so it might not have much of an effect. 

 

Oh, do they? Fucking show them, then. All of them.

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3 minutes ago, TQR said:

 

Oh, do they? Fucking show them, then. All of them.

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50140-public-support-retaining-the-two-child-benefit-limit-as-starmer-gears-up-for-first-rebellion#:~:text=There is support for keeping,half (46%) opposing it.
 

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2 hours ago, RoverAndOut said:

 

I think the neo-cons doth protest too much... 

This remains my favourite interview line on the subject:

 

 

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18 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50140-public-support-retaining-the-two-child-benefit-limit-as-starmer-gears-up-for-first-rebellion#:~:text=There is support for keeping,half (46%) opposing it.
 

 

"Polls show the public as a whole actually support the cap" is what you say.

One poll of 2k people from famously right-leaning YouGov showing a slight net support for Labour's reasoning behind keeping the cap is what you produce.

 

Do you see why so many people think you're a troll?

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17 minutes ago, TQR said:

 

Oh, do they? Fucking show them, then. All of them.

 

Even taking into account your post directly above this, it is important to add that:

 

12 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50140-public-support-retaining-the-two-child-benefit-limit-as-starmer-gears-up-for-first-rebellion#:~:text=There is support for keeping,half (46%) opposing it.
 

 

The question asked was: Currently there is a two child limit on the number of children parents can claim child‑related welfare benefits for. Do you think this limit should be kept, or should it be abolished? Which already frames the question in a way that makes the 80% of Reform/Tory voters agreeing not so much a surprise. Remember Sir Humphrey and the conscription polling massaging. 

 

However in general, governments have a tendency to do things even when they poll unpopular, because they are the right thing to do. For example, even nowadays, pollsters can find majority support for the death penalty in the UK by phrasing the question in a certain way or leaning on the "wont someone think of the children?" routine. Likewise, in 1983, polling found that around 60% of the public thought homosexuality was wrong. Didn't stop Labour legalising it in the sixties (and yes, it took until the 80s for this to trickle to certain parts of the UK). 

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23 minutes ago, msc said:

Remember Sir Humphrey and the conscription polling massaging. 

 

No, no idea what you could possibly be on about.

 

 

Worth 103 seconds of anyones time.

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It’s just getting better and better! The chancellor is appointing a Covid corruption commissioner within the next few weeks to help examine and recover an estimated £7.6bn worth of Covid fraud money.

 

Have a nice night’s sleep, Mone.

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1 hour ago, TQR said:

It’s just getting better and better! The chancellor is appointing a Covid corruption commissioner within the next few weeks to help examine and recover an estimated £7.6bn worth of Covid fraud money.

 

Have a nice night’s sleep, Mone.

Mone will be sweating more than Prince Andrew in a school playground.

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A question purely out of interest for Americans who will not be voting Republican in November: assuming Kamala Harris secures the Dem nomination, who would you personally prefer to see as her running mate and why?

[Toast 16,131]

3 hours ago, TQR said:

It’s just getting better and better! The chancellor is appointing a Covid corruption commissioner within the next few weeks to help examine and recover an estimated £7.6bn worth of Covid fraud money.

Have a nice night’s sleep, Mone.

 

Dildo Harding has a few quid to account for too.

 

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