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At least there's a lot fewer of them.

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9 minutes ago, Toast said:

At least there's a lot fewer of them.

 

Thank heavens for small mercies eh?

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14 minutes ago, Toast said:

At least there's a lot fewer of them.

 

 

Summat I've just noted on the by-election thread whilst wondering aloud of Braverman, now passed over for a senior shadow cabinet post, might start edging towards a significant position alongside Farage and Tice

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‘Here’s the full Badenoch shadow cabinet. Tom Tugendhat, like James Cleverly, is another leadership contender heading to the backbenches 

·Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer: Mel Stride MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs: Dame Priti Patel MP
·Shadow Home Secretary: Chris Philp MP
·Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland: Alex Burghart MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Defence: James Cartlidge MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Justice: Robert Jenrick MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Education: Laura Trott MP 
·Shadow Health and Social Care Secretary: Ed Argar MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities: Kevin Hollinrake MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs: Victoria Atkins MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Trade: Andrew Griffith MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero and Shadow Minister for Equalities: Claire Coutinho MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions: Helen Whately MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Transport: Gareth Bacon MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport: Stuart Andrew MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology: Alan Mak MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland and Shadow Minister of State for Energy and Net Zero: Andrew Bowie MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Wales and Shadow Minister for Women: Mims Davies MP 
·Opposition Chief Whip (Commons): Dame Rebecca Harris MP 
·Shadow Leader of the House of Commons: Jesse Norman MP
·Shadow Leader of the House of Lords: Lord True 
·Co-Chairmen of the Party: Nigel Huddleston MP & Lord Johnson
·Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury: Richard Fuller MP
Also attending:
•Parliamentary Private Secretary: Julia Lopez MP’

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Old Crem said:

Here’s the full Badenoch shadow cabinet. 

 

A cabinet of none of the talents

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‘More Badenoch appointments 

Gagan Mohindra is the Shadow Deputy Chief Whip

Mark Francois is the Shadow Minister of State for Defence

Kieran Mullan is the Shadow Minister of State for Justice

(Mohindra backed Cleverly, Francois backed Jenrick, Mullan backed Badenoch)’

 

Francois is a sign of the how few Tory MP’s they are.

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6 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said:

A cabinet of none of the talents

 

Funny old bunch. As one insider says, it could reasonably be a cabinet Sunak would pick. A right v right leadership election and the cabinet has very few right wingers in it. Chris Mason pointing out there's 121 Tory MPs and around 100 cabinet roles to shadow. Taking out those who don't want to serve (Sunak, Dowden, Hunt, Claverley, etc.), those chairing Select Committees and those you don't like, you're not going to be able to shadow every position without doubling up and beggars can't be choosers when it comes to filling posts.

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10 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

‘Here’s the full Badenoch shadow cabinet. Tom Tugendhat, like James Cleverly, is another leadership contender heading to the backbenches 

·Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer: Mel Stride MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs: Dame Priti Patel MP
·Shadow Home Secretary: Chris Philp MP
·Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland: Alex Burghart MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Defence: James Cartlidge MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Justice: Robert Jenrick MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Education: Laura Trott MP 
·Shadow Health and Social Care Secretary: Ed Argar MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities: Kevin Hollinrake MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs: Victoria Atkins MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Business and Trade: Andrew Griffith MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero and Shadow Minister for Equalities: Claire Coutinho MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions: Helen Whately MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Transport: Gareth Bacon MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport: Stuart Andrew MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology: Alan Mak MP
·Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland and Shadow Minister of State for Energy and Net Zero: Andrew Bowie MP 
·Shadow Secretary of State for Wales and Shadow Minister for Women: Mims Davies MP 
·Opposition Chief Whip (Commons): Dame Rebecca Harris MP 
·Shadow Leader of the House of Commons: Jesse Norman MP
·Shadow Leader of the House of Lords: Lord True 
·Co-Chairmen of the Party: Nigel Huddleston MP & Lord Johnson
·Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury: Richard Fuller MP
Also attending:
•Parliamentary Private Secretary: Julia Lopez MP’

 

 

 

 

How many of them would be a good pick for an episode of Pointless, even if you showed a photo and put up their initials?

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‘Tory leader Kemi Badenoch has moved to appoint more Robert Jenrick supporters to her shadow ministerial team, albeit in second tier roles.
Jenrick supporter Danny Kruger has been appointed a Shadow Minister of State at the Department for Work and Pensions.
Jenrick backer Wendy Morton has been appointed a Shadow Minister of State at the FCDO.
Jenrick supporter Gareth Davies has been appointed Shadow Financial Secretary to the Treasury.
Badenoch-backer Harriet Baldwin has been appointed a Shadow Minister of State at Department for Business and Trade.
And Joy Morrissey will be co-Shadow Deputy Chief Whip, with Gagan Mohindra, who was announced yesterday.’

 

 

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Looks very much like early elections in Germany and then a likely big CDU/CSU win. Who they will go into coalition with afterwards remains a big question.

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12 minutes ago, Toast said:

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Perhaps consider the ignore function? I did and it's made the forum much better.

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2 hours ago, Master Obit said:

Perhaps consider the ignore function? I did and it's made the forum much better.

 

Getting rid of him altogether would make the forum much better.

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2 hours ago, Master Obit said:

Perhaps consider the ignore function? I did and it's made the forum much better.

 

Yes, but as others point out, the ignored posts still appear in quotes.

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Tomorrow's Cenotaph ceremony could well be a record breaker in terms of number of former PMs in attendance. There are now 8 living former PMs, plus Starmer as the incumbent for 9.

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And here's the confirmation:

18 hours ago, Brad252 said:

Tomorrow's Cenotaph ceremony could well be a record breaker in terms of number of former PMs in attendance. There are now 8 living former PMs, plus Starmer as the incumbent for 9.

Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Theresa May, David Cameron, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and John Major stand next to one aother

 

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9 minutes ago, Brad252 said:

And here's the confirmation:

Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Theresa May, David Cameron, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and John Major stand next to one aother

 

 

Wouldn't that make a great fairground shooting gallery.

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Still unbelievable how horribly Blair and Brown have aged compared with Major. Without looking them up, I would have guessed they were all born roughly the same year. 

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32 minutes ago, Sod's Law said:

Still unbelievable how horribly Blair and Brown have aged compared with Major. Without looking them up, I would have guessed they were all born roughly the same year. 

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8 hours ago, Brad252 said:

And here's the confirmation:

Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Theresa May, David Cameron, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and John Major stand next to one aother

 

 

To think, the five on the left cover 14 years, the remaining three 20 years, with Blair alone half that period.

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48 minutes ago, prussianblue said:

 

To think, the five on the left cover 14 years, the remaining three 20 years, with Blair alone half that period.

 

 

The three on the left don't amount to five years between them, Sunak calling the election just shy of five years before Bojo's arrival. Be interesting to know what, if anything of significance, they said to Truss!

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1 hour ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

The three on the left don't amount to five years between them, Sunak calling the election just shy of five years before Bojo's arrival. Be interesting to know what, if anything of significance, they said to Truss!

I've seen road bollards look more human than Truss in that picture.

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On 06/10/2024 at 12:44, Thatcher said:

Sue Gray has resigned - apparently moving elsewhere in government. That went well.

‘EXCL: Sue Gray has rejected an offer to become PM’s envoy for the regions and nations, her allies tell @ft 

‘Sue has taken a decision not to take the role. She’s going to focus on other things,’ said one

‘She’s taken time to think about it properly, talking to stakeholders, but ultimately she’s decided she doesn't want to do it’’

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