Keir Starmer

[The Old Crem 3,794]

53 minutes ago, ladyfiona said:

Not Wes Streeting please. I've met him when he came to where I work. Victoria Atkins was nicer and she's a Tory, lol. Also pretty sure he wants to make things "digital" when it comes to the NHS. Even though every patient I met hates our self check in.

I think a lot of people hate using online things for medical stuff. I’m surprised Labour haven’t realised a digital NHS is a word that is creating dear and confusion for many people. 

[Thatcher 2,789]

His brother Nick Starmer died on Boxing Day from cancer.

[Deadboy999 183]

1 hour ago, Thatcher said:

His brother Nick Starmer died on Boxing Day from cancer.

Good

[Ulitzer95 13,211]

38 minutes ago, Deadboy999 said:

Good

Now, now. He couldn’t help that his brother is a cunt.

 

I always say families of politicians are off limits and I stand by that.

[YoungWillz 21,723]

11 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Now, now. He couldn’t help that his brother is a cunt.

 

I always say families of politicians are off limits and I stand by that.

Depends I guess.

 

For example, I did not know Starmer had a brother at all. He's just family.

 

But some family are in the public eye, like some of the Johnsons. Or Mark Thatcher who even has his own (shared) thread. You can have a go at those, but family with no public profile of their own - leave it, I say.

[Ulitzer95 13,211]

1 hour ago, YoungWillz said:

Depends I guess.

 

For example, I did not know Starmer had a brother at all. He's just family.

 

But some family are in the public eye, like some of the Johnsons. Or Mark Thatcher who even has his own (shared) thread. You can have a go at those, but family with no public profile of their own - leave it, I say.

Ofc that’s what I meant.

[Sean 6,598]

3 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

Depends I guess.

 

For example, I did not know Starmer had a brother at all. He's just family.

 

But some family are in the public eye, like some of the Johnsons. Or Mark Thatcher who even has his own (shared) thread. You can have a go at those, but family with no public profile of their own - leave it, I say.

You might not have known he had a brother but I bet you knew his Dad was a toolmaker, his mother was a Nurse and that his wife works in the NHS.

[The Old Crem 3,794]

I went to the Panto this afternoon and the jokes against Keir Starmer got a bigger reaction than the jokes in previous years against Boris and Liz Truss. (And the one about Liz Truss this year as well.) He won’t be re-elected with a majority with that reaction already (Could be a hung parliament through but I rule nothing out.)

[Deadboy999 183]

GOOD

[The Red Death 90]

19 hours ago, Deadboy999 said:

Good

 

18 facepalms and counting...

[Sod's Law 500]

32 minutes ago, The Red Death said:

 

18 facepalms and counting...

All richly deserved. Keir Starmer's brother was learning disabled and living in care. He did absolutely nothing to make his death worth celebrating.

[livingbygrace 591]

3 minutes ago, Sod's Law said:

All richly deserved. Keir Starmer's brother was learning disabled and living in care. He did absolutely nothing to make his death worth celebrating.

With this tidbit of information I gave him his 20th facepalm

[Toast 16,346]

1 hour ago, livingbygrace said:

With this tidbit of information I gave him his 20th facepalm

 

And now let's just ignore the cunt.

[Windsor 2,317]

I don't really understand all the hate for Keir Starmer. 

Most of the pensioners who have lost their money can afford it. As for the farmers, its their best mates like Clarkson and Farage that have done them in. Alot of this would be avoidable if people just paid their fucking tax in the first place and didn't take advantage of the tax relief/benefits for those who genuinely need it...

[Master Obit 914]

9 minutes ago, Windsor said:

I don't really understand all the hate for Keir Starmer. 
 

He'd probably get less if he was actually better at presenting himself to the people. The Winter Fuel Allowance thing was a bit of a PR own goal, and was really inviting criticism for going after the most vulnerable members of society. A lot of the pensioners who can't now claim it didn't necessarily need it, but he should really have anticipated that going for them so quickly would be seen as targeting the vulnerable. I spoke with a relative in their 70s who falls in to this category, and he doesn't even disagree that at its roots it wasn't a terrible idea, just that it felt like an unfair immediate attack on the aged especially when Labour is supposed to be all about defending the weak in society.

 

It could easily have been deferred and slotted in a bit later down the line when there couldn't really have been an angle for "Keir wants to immediately kill the pensioners!" It would still have invited criticism from the press, but there'd have been more people willing to entertain it as a tough, but necessary, decision as opposed to a mercenary attack on the vulnerable. 

[The Great Cornholio 912]

On 28/12/2024 at 13:46, Windsor said:

I don't really understand all the hate for Keir Starmer. 

Most of the pensioners who have lost their money can afford it. As for the farmers, its their best mates like Clarkson and Farage that have done them in. Alot of this would be avoidable if people just paid their fucking tax in the first place and didn't take advantage of the tax relief/benefits for those who genuinely need it...

I get paying tax, but inheritance tax shouldn't be a thing. Why should someone's family be indebted to the government when they die?

[YoungWillz 21,723]

Not pleasant to watch him essentially grovel to Trump.

 

A former Director of Public Prosecutions on our side. A convicted felon, affirmed sexual abuser and adulterer on theirs.

 

I know where I'd rather be. Even if it is all a bit shitty here (as per usual).

 

I also know who I'd rather be sitting at a dinner table with...about time we forgot about these so-called leaders anyway.

[The Old Crem 3,794]

9 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Not pleasant to watch him essentially grovel to Trump.

 

A former Director of Public Prosecutions on our side. A convicted felon, affirmed sexual abuser and adulterer on theirs.

 

I know where I'd rather be. Even if it is all a bit shitty here (as per usual).

 

I also know who I'd rather be sitting at a dinner table with...about time we forgot about these so-called leaders anyway.

To my surprise I saw a poll a couple of days ago that said the public actually seem to want him to be closer with Trump. With Trump still pretty unpopular in the UK and America not as popular as many politicians want it to be I thought it might have been the opposite 

[YoungWillz 21,723]

9 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

To my surprise I saw a poll a couple of days ago that said the public actually seem to want him to be closer with Trump. With Trump still pretty unpopular in the UK and America not as popular as many politicians want it to be I thought it might have been the opposite 

Can't imagine how people react. 

 

Would there be a poll that suggests King Charles be closer to friend of Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew? So why would there be a poll of people wanting Starmer to be closer to friend of Jeffrey Epstein Trump?

 

People baffle me.

[The Old Crem 3,794]

12 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Can't imagine how people react. 

 

Would there be a poll that suggests King Charles be closer to friend of Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew? So why would there be a poll of people wanting Starmer to be closer to friend of Jeffrey Epstein Trump?

 

People baffle me.

Because it’s note because of Trump the individual but his office. People don’t want the UK facing tariffs from the USA. 

[Ulitzer95 13,211]

9 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Can't imagine how people react. 

 

Would there be a poll that suggests King Charles be closer to friend of Jeffrey Epstein Prince Andrew? So why would there be a poll of people wanting Starmer to be closer to friend of Jeffrey Epstein Trump?

 

People baffle me.

You'd be a shit diplomat.

Being closer to Trump/the U.S. is in the interests of the UK. Their domestic politics is really not that relevant to us. You have to put your emotions in a box and ignore the interests of people in other countries. If we cut off every country because of factors of their internal politics that pissed us off our trade would automatically half over night and it would hammer our GDP, then our own people would suffer as a result. Not very wise.

[YoungWillz 21,723]

2 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Because it’s nit because of TrumP the individual  but his office. People don’t want the UK facing tariffs from the USA. 

Americans pay tariffs imposed by their Government. Simples. Higher tariffs make Americans poorer.

 

It is an exercise in "buy American".  The civil service/Federal agency staff sort this shit out, not politicians.

 

I care more about what Trump can pull us into, rather than trade guff. If we can stay out of Vietnam, we can stay out of his Foreign policies. Just me though.

[YoungWillz 21,723]

3 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

You'd be a shit diplomat.

Being closer to Trump/the U.S. is in the interests of the UK. Their domestic politics is really not that relevant to us. You have to put your emotions in a box and ignore the interests of people in other countries. If we cut off every country because of factors of their internal politics that pissed us off our trade would automatically half over night and it would hammer our GDP, then our own people would suffer as a result. Not very wise.

I agree. I care nothing for what the Americans may enjoy/suffer under Trump internally. That has always been their business. 

 

A distanced approach to a country with a convicted crazy grandpa at its helm is my policy. And I am unanimous in that.

[The Old Crem 3,794]

9 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Americans pay tariffs imposed by their Government. Simples. Higher tariffs make Americans poorer.

 

It is an exercise in "buy American".  The civil service/Federal agency staff sort this shit out, not politicians.

 

I care more about what Trump can pull us into, rather than trade guff. If we can stay out of Vietnam, we can stay out of his Foreign policies. Just me though.

Garfish will affect the entire global economy. Canada could go into immediate recession this week because of the expected tariffs. We could go into the same if Trump decides on a full on trade war with us. 
 

And if that happens it benefits Nigel Farrage the most and makes it more likely he becomes PM someday which I doubt you want at all.

[YoungWillz 21,723]

Just now, The Old Crem said:

Garfish will affect the entire global economy. Canada could go into immediate recession this week because of the expected tariffs. We could go into the same if Trump decides on a full on trade war with us. 

Exactly. That bloke's a nutter, as they said on the adverts folk round here don't remember.

 

If Starmer had any sense, he'd be getting alternatives in place, rather than sitting down to dinner with him. Trump tells the world to go fuck itself. I'm content with fucking off as far as possible for four years and sorting our problems/challenges elsewhere.

 

I maintain it is unpleasant to watch the leader of our country writhe in the dirt, rather than do something else, however distasteful it may seemingly be.