Shadow DeathList Competition 2022

[John Key 747]

2022 Shadow DeathList Competition

 

Big note: 

Please don't challenge individual names on someones list when they post.  When a celebrity dies, this discussion can take place then. 

 

This is more of a "everyone who already makes a normal Shadow DeathList should come and submit this here anyway" kind of thing, to explain the motive of this competition and why the rules are generally relaxed. 

 

To enter: 

• Have a list of 50 celebrities chosen by yourself, for their likelihood to die in 2022.
• Candidates must be famous enough that their death is confidently expected to be reported by any countries media
  On the issue that someone isn't famous enough, I have no idea how to deal with that. Adding strict rules and limitations doesn't seem very cool though, because I want people to feel comfortable posting their normal Shadow DeathList. 
• Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die imminently
• Candidates may submit their list any time from September 2021 to December of 2022 of 50 names + 5 subs. Post your list here to enter, there's no stress in posting it by January 1st if you're ultra-competitive with keeping your names a secret
• Names on the scoreboard will only count AFTER you submit your list. If you submitted your list on the main Shadow Lists Forum or another similar forum late this may be taken into consideration. 
  (If you submit a list in February of 2022 without having had posted it elsewhere, deaths occurring in January aren't going to count)

 

Things to keep in mind about any person you choose:

• Are they likely to obit in a major newspaper? 
• Are they a well known celebrity? 
• Do they have a Wikipedia page in any language (that clearly wasn't made just for Deathlisting)

You will not be asked to prove any of these when you post your list, but upon your candidates death you may need to meet some of these criteria. 

I will try and be pretty relaxed on these and use discretion, but family members of yours/local nobodies are the reason why I'm not just saying that all names will count if they die. A rough guideline that I don't follow is to probably try and pick names that the "main" DeathList may also pick. 

 

Scoring System:

• One death = One Point

 

Making this early to take criticism of making this, suggestions, and to give me time to think of necessary rules.

The inspiration for creating this comes from wanting a clear place to compare how my Shadow List does to the main DeathList. Anyone else that wants this for any reason is welcome to join and post their list below at a reasonable time. 

It is a valid criticism to say that the lack of rules may affect the quality of names or the formality of this deadpool. Some people already make a Shadow DeathList and I want this to be a place where we can compare them. For 2022, at least, I won't have formal rules on names. Being reported in the newspaper and having a Wikipedia Article that isn't a stub will go a long way. 

[John Key 747]

gcreptile 23/50

John Key 23/50

Book 22/50

Theoldlady 22/50

Salmon Mousse 21/50

MariNisia 19/50

wannamaker 18/50

Annami 18/50

The Daredevil 17/50

jonnythegamemaster 16/50

_floydylan_ 16/50

TQR 15/50

Hell 15/50

Nick 15/50

Main Deathlist 14/50

The Old Crem 14/50

markb4 13/50

six feet blunder 12/50

Death Duke 12/50

Pop_Zeus 10/50

earl 11/50

 Bibliogryphon 10/50

Redrumours 9/50

Doulton 8/50

Dying Probably 8/50

Etushispushingupdaisies 7/50

dimreaper 7/50

Miranda lass 6/50

arghton 6/50

Gooseberry Crumble 6/50

DieHardGiantsFan 3/50

 

 

•  

 

The dead:

Gary Burgess:

John Key 0+1

Theoldlady 0+1

MariNisia 0+1

Book 0+1

Annami 0+1

gcreptile 0+1

 

Igor Bogdanoff

Book 1 + 1

jonnythegamemaster 0 + 1 

_floydylan_ 0+1

 

Joan Copeland

markb4 0+1

 

Sidney Poitier

Bibliogryphon 0+1

earl 0+1

Theoldlady 1+1

The Old Crem 0+1

Hell 0+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 0+1

MariNisia 1+1

Annami 1+1

dimreaper 0+1

Death Duke 0+1

TQR 0+1

jonnythegamemaster 1+1

Nick 0+1

The Daredevil 0+1

_floydylan_ 1+1

 

Robert Durst

markb4 1+1

Salmon Mousse 0+1

 

Jana Bennett

theoldlady 2+1

 

Hardy Krüger

Etushispushingupdaisies 1+1

Book 2+1

The Daredevil 1+1

 

Barry Cryer

Pop_Zeus 0+1

 

Lata Mangeshkar

John Key 1+1

 

Russell Bishop

Book 3+1

gcreptile 1+1

wannamaker 1+1

 

Leonard Fenton

TQR 1+1

jonnythegamemaster 2+1

The Daredevil 2+1

 

Christos Sartzetakis

wannamaker 0+1

John Key 2+1

 

Monica Vitti

arghton 0+1

Nick 1+1

The Daredevil 3+1

 

Mustafa Kayirici

Book 4+1

 

 

Nightbirde

Nick 2+1

 

Gail Halvorsen

gcreptile 2+1

 

Sister Catherine Wybourne

gcreptile 3+1

 

Shirley Hughes

Bibliogryphon 1+1

 

Mike Mora

Book 5+1

 

Vic Elford

wannamaker 2+1

TQR 2+1

 

John Chapple

Gooseberry Crumble 0+1

 

Tom Parker

Theoldlady 3+1

wannamaker 3+1

The Old Crem 1+1

Salmon Mousse 1+1

Book 6+1

Death Duke 1+1

TQR 3+1

jonnythegamemaster 3+1

Nick 3+1

 

Miguel Van Damme

Book 7+1

 

 

Estelle Harris

Main Deathlist 2+1

John Key 3+1

Theoldlady 4+1

MariNisia 2+1

 

June Brown

Main Deathlist 3+1

six feet blunder 0+1

Theoldlady 5+1

Doulton 0+1

wannamaker 4+1

Hell 1+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 2+1

MariNisia 3+1

jonnythegamemaster 4+1

Miranda lass 0+1

 

Nehemiah Persoff

six feet blunder 1+1

markb4 2+1

Dying Probably 0+1

Pop_Zeus 1+1

Hell 2+1

 

Tom Smith

theoldlady 6+1

John Key 4+1

wannamaker 5+1

The Old Crem 2+1

Salmon Mousse 2+1

Gooseberry Crumble 1+1

Book 8+1

Death Duke 2+1

TQR 4+1

 

Larry Holley

_floydylan_ 2+1

 

Ron Stander

Gooseberry Crumble 2+1

 

Jack Higgins

The Daredevil 4+1

 

Michel Bouquet

The Daredevil 5+1

 

Art Rupe

six feet blunder 2+1

John Key 5+1

Pop_Zeus 2+1

 

Guy Lafleur

Salmon Mousse 3+1

 

Mwai Kibaki

Hell 3+1

John Key 6+1

 

Liz Sheridan

gcreptile 4+1

 

George Perez

wannamaker 6+1

Salmon Mousse 4+1

Book 9+1

The Daredevil 6+1

gcreptile 5+1

_floydylan_  3+1

 

Lester Piggott

six feet blunder 3+1

Redrumours 0+1

 

Boris Pahor

six feet blunder 4+1

Pop_Zeus 3+1

Annami 2+1

 

Billy Bingham

TQR 5+1

 

Jean-Louis Trintignant

theoldlady 7+1

John Key 7+1

earl 1+1

Doulton 1+1

wannamaker 7+1

Salmon Mousse 5+1

MariNisia 4+1

Book 10+1

Annami 3+1

Death Duke 3+1

TQR 6+1

jonnythegamemaster 5+1

Nick 4+1

The Daredevil 7+1

gcreptile 6+1

_floydylan_ 4+1

 

Deborah James

Book 11+1

 

Margaret Keane

Annami 4+1

 

 

James Caan

earl 2+1

(theoldlady's 4th sub)

 

Susie Steiner

John Key 8+1

theoldlady 8+1

Salmon Mousse 6+1

MariNisia 5+1

Book 12+1

Annami 5+1

gcreptile 7+1

 

Larry Storch

markb4 3+1

Hell 4+1

MariNisia 6+1

Miranda lass 1+1

_floydylan_ 5+1

 

Luis Echeverría

theoldlady 9+1

John Key 9+1

Pop_Zeus 4+1

Salmon Mousse 7+1

Annami 6+1

 

John Gwynne

gcreptile 8+1

 

Bernard Cribbins

Hell 5+1

Miranda lass 2+1

 

James Lovelock

Bibliogryphon 2+1

John Key 10 + 1

wannamaker 8+1

Hell 6+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 3+1

MariNisia 7+1

TQR 7+1

_floydylan_  5+1

 

Nichelle Nichols

wannamaker 9+1

TQR 8+1

jonnythegamemaster 6+1

The Daredevil 8+1

Bibliography 3+2 (June Brown)

 

 

Pat Carroll

MariNisia 8+1

 

Vin Scully

markb4 4+1

MariNisia 9+1

 

Israel Dresner

gcreptile 9+1

 

jonnythegamemaster - fixed score

 

 

Judith Durham

Redrumours 1+1

 

Olivia Newton-John

markb4 5+1

Theoldlady 10+1

Doulton 2+1

wannamaker 10+1

The Old Crem 3+1

Dying Probably 1+1

Salmon Mousse 8+1

Book 13+1

Annami 7+1

Death Duke 4+1

jonnythegamemaster 7+1

Nick 5+1

gcreptile 10+1

_floydylan_ 6+1

 

Raymond Briggs

Bibliogryphon 5+1

 

Margot Eskens

Book 14+1

 

Rolf Eden

Book 15+1

 

Tom Weiskopf

Theoldlady 11+1

Salmon Mousse 9+1

Annami 8+1

 

Vesa-Matti Loiri

arghton 1+1

 

Mikhail Gorbachev

Main Deathlist 4+1

Bibliogryphon 6+1

arghton 2+1

six feet blunder 5+1

Theoldlady 12+1

Doulton 3+1

wannamaker 11+1

The Old Crem 3+1

Hell 7+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 4+1

MariNisia 10 + 1

Book 16 + 1

Annami 9+1

Redrumours 2+1

dimreaper  1+1

TQR 9+1

Nick 6+1

TheDaredevil 9+1

_floydylan_ 7+1

 

Bill Turnbull

Main Deathlist 5+1

Bibliogryphon 7+1

markb4 6+1

John Key 11+1

wannamaker 12+1

The Old Crem 4+1

Salmon Mousse 10+1

MariNisia 11+1

Book 17+1

Annami 10+1

Redrumours 3+1

jonnythegamemaster 8+1

gcreptile 11+1

 

Queen Elizabeth II

Main Deathlist 6+1

markb4 7+1

John Key 12+1

earl 3+1

Doulton 4+1

The Old Crem 5+1

Dying Probably 1+1

Pop_Zeus 5+1

Hell 8+1

Salmon Mousse 11+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 5+1

Annami 11+1

dimreaper 2+1

Death Duke 5+1

TQR 10+1

jonnythegamemaster 9+1

Nick 7+1

_floydylan_ 8+1

Redrumours 4+1

six feet blunder 6+1

 

Marsha Hunt

markb4 8+1

John Key 13+1

theoldlady 13+1

Dying Probably 2+1

Pop_Zeus 6+1

Hell 9+1

Annami 12+1

jonnythegamemaster 10+1

_floydylan_ 9+1

 

Jean-Luc Godard

earl 4+1

Main Deathlist 7+1

 

Irene Papas

markb4 9+1

John Key 14+1

@MariNisia your second sub, any reason why Irene comes into contention (e.g. 2 people on your list that died before 2022, anyone famous for only being old)

The Daredevil 10+1

 

Antonio Inoki

Salmon Mousse 12+1

 

Sacheen Littlefeather

John Key 15+1

Salmon Mousse 13+1

gcreptile 12+1

 

Loretta Lynn

theoldlady 14+1

The Old Crem 6+1

Pop_Zeus 7+1

Book 18+1

Death Duke 6+1

Miranda lass 3+1

Main Deathlist 8+1

 

Phil Read

gcreptile 13+1

 

Peter Tobin

theoldlady 15+1

Redrumours 5+1

 

Angela Lansbury

DieHardGiantsFan 0+1

markb4 10+1

John Key 16+1 ((1st sub, Betty White & Berniece Baker Miracle make her my #49 and Dick Van Dyke #50, any contests welcome))

earl 5+1

Doulton 5+1

The Old Crem 7+1

Dying Probably 3+1

Pop_Zeus 8+1

Hell 10+1

Salmon Mousse 14+1

dimreaper 3+1

Death Duke 7+1

Nick 8+1

The Daredevil 11+1

_floydylan_ 10+1

Main Deathlist 9+1

 

Fritz Pleitgen

Book 19+1

 

Robbie Coltrane

earl 6+1

Miranda lass 4+1

 

Charley Trippey

MariNisia 12+1

 

Jerry Lee Lewis

Main Deathlist 10+1

six feet blunder 7+1

Theoldlady 16+1

Doulton 6+1

wannamaker 13+1

The Old Crem 8+1

Salmon Mousse 15+1

MariNisia 13+1

Redrumours 6+1

TQR 11+1

Nick 9+1

The Daredevil 12+1

gcreptile 14+1

_floydylan_ 11+1

 

Scoreboard fix

MariNisia to 14

Dying Probably to 5

 

Bill Treacher

Main Deathlist 11+1

The Old Crem 9+1

jonnythegamemaster 11+1

@The Daredevil your third sub, would become valid if 3 people on your list died pre-2022 or were famous for only being old. 

 

Leslie Phillips

Main Deathlist 12+1

arghton 3+1

six feet blunder 8+1

markb4 11+1

John Key 17+1

Theoldlady 17+1

wannamaker 14+1

The Old Crem 10+1

Dying Probably 5+1

Pop_Zeus 9+1

Hell 11+1

MariNisia 14+1

Annami 13+1

Redrumours 7+1

Death Duke 8+1

TQR 12+1

jonnythegamemaster 12+1

Nick 10+1

The Daredevil 13+1

Miranda lass 5+1

gcreptile 15+1

_floydylan_ 12+1

dim reaper 4+1

 

Doddie Weir

six feet blunder 9+1

Theoldlady 18+1

Salmon Mousse 16+1

Gooseberry Crumble 3+1

Annami 14+1

TQR 13+1

 

Clare Marx

gcreptile 16+1

jonnythegamemaster 13+1

Salmon Mousse 17+1

 

Jiang Zemin

Bibliogryphon 8+1

John Key 18+1

wannamaker 14+1

Dying Probably 6+1

Nick 11+1

 

Julia Reichert

MariNisia 15+1

gcreptile 17+1

 

Bob McGrath

DieHardGiantsFan 1+1

 

Scoreboard Fix

wannamaker 15+1

earl 7+2

 

(Col.) Joseph Kittinger

six feet blunder 10+1

 

Kaikala Satyanarayana

John Key 19 + 1

 

Pele

Main Deathlist 13+1

arghton 4+1

six feet blunder 11+1

markb4 12+1

John Key 20+1

earl 9+1

Theoldlady 19+1

wannamaker 16+1

The Old Crem 11+1

Hell 12+1

Salmon Mousse 18+1

MariNisia 16+1

Book 20+1

Annami 15+1

Redrumours 8+1

Death Duke 9+1

TQR 14+1

jonnythegamemaster 14+1

Nick 12+1

The Daredevil 14+1

gcreptile 18+1

_floydylan_ 13+1

 

Barbara Walters

DieHardGiantsFan 2+1

John Key 21+1

Theoldlady 20+1

The Old Crem 12+1

Hell 13+1

Salmon Mousse 19+1

MariNisia 17+1

Gooseberry Crumble 4+1

Annami 16+1

dimreaper 5+1

Death Duke 10+1

Nick 13+1

The Daredevil 15+1

gcreptile 19+1

_floydylan_ 14+1

 

Bernadette Mayer

gcreptile 20+1

 

Don West

gcreptile 21+1

 

Pope Benedict XVI

Bibliogryphon 9+1

John Key 22+1

earl 10+1

Theoldlady 21+1

Doulton 7+1

wannamaker 17+1

The Old Crem 13+1

Dying Probably 7+1

Hell 14+1

Salmon Mousse 20+1

Etushispushingupdaisies 6+1

MariNisia 18+1

Gooseberry Crumble 5+1

Annami 17+1

dimreaper 6+1

Death Duke 11+1

jonnythegamemaster 15+1

Nick 14+1

The Daredevil 16+1

_floydylan_ 15+1

arghton 5+1

Book 21+1

gcreptile 22+1

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2022 by John Key
Pope Benedict XVI

[John Key 747]

As a general rule, if Betty White is still on their team, their first sub acts as their 50th position. 

 

Teams so far:

Bibliogryphon 

1.       Leslie Philips

2.       Jimmy Greaves

3.       Bob Dole

4.       Abdelaziz Bouteflika

5.       Betty White

6.       Joanne Woodward

7.       James Watson

8.       Pope Benedict XVI

9.       Douglas Hurd

10.   Sidney Poitier

11.   June Spencer

12.   Desmond Tutu

13.   Bob Barker

14.   Jimmy Carter

15.   Jean Marie Le Pen

16.   Penelope Lively

17.   Ysanne Churchman

18.   Gudrun Ure

19.   Shirley Hughes

20.   James Lovelock

21.   Frank Williams (Motor Racing)

22.   Kane Tanaka

23.   Raymond Briggs

24.   Timothy Dudley-Smith

25.   Rosalynn Carter

26.   William Russell

27.   Alan Dean Foster

28.   Harry Belafonte

29.   David Attenborough

30.   Bob Newhart

31.   Ray Lawler

32.   David Graham

33.   Robert Fyfe

34.   Michael J Fox

35.   Bill Turnbull

36.   Nigel Lawson

37.   Larry Niven

38.   Vanessa Redgrave

39.   Rupert Murdoch

40.   Eileen Derbyshire

41.   Edna O’Brien

42.   A S Byatt

43.   Frank Borman

44.   Niels Olsen

45.   Alice Munro

46.   Stanley Baxter

47.   Jean Marsh

48.   Mikhail Gorbachov

49.   Cleo Laine

50.   Jiang Zemin 

 

 

Subs

 

Joan D.Vinge

Anthony Sher

Nichelle Nichols

Billy Connolly

June Brown

 

arghton

1. Abdelaziz Bouteflika

2. Martti Ahtisaari

3. Henry Kissinger

4. Monica Vitti

5. Miloš Zeman

6. Leslie Phillips

7. Vesa-Matti Loiri

8. Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani

9. Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan

10. Bob Dole

11. Kitanofuji Katsuaki

12. Violeta Chamorro

13. Queen Sirikit

14. Imelda Marcos

15. Pele

16. Mengistu Haile Mariam

17. Vicente Fernandez

18. Sultan Ghalib II al-Qu'aiti

19. Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh (Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia)

20. Rabbi Eliezer Berland

21. Amadou-Mahtar M'Bow

22. Keith Richards

23. Margarita Terekhova

24. Pasqual Maragall

25. Kane Tanaka

26. Emomali Rahmon

27. Ivan Silayev

28. Mikhail Gorbachev

29. Salman of Saudi Arabia

30. Tui Atua Tupua Tamasese Efi

31. John Howard

32. Sitiveni Rabuka

33. Ati George Sokomanu

34. Benedict XVI

35. Ozzy Osbourne

36. George R. R. Martin

37. Roman Polanski

38. Yoko Ono

39. Rudy Giuliani

40. Prunella Scales

41. Aung San Suu Kyi

42. Desi Bouterse

43. Alan Brazil

44. Billy Connolly

45. Michael Dukakis

46. Jimmy Carter

47. Joseph Estrada

48. Louis Farrakhan

49. Alberto Fujimori

50. Rolf Harris

 

Subs:

Sandra Day O'Connor

Ion Iliescu

Abdul Qadeer Khan

Pervez Musharraf

Dick Van Dyke

 

DieHardGiantsFan

1. Donald Trump (Worst President EVER)

2. Jimmy Carter (Former President)

3. Betty White (Actress)

4. Bob Barker (Former host of The Price is Right)

5. Angela Lansbury (Actress)

6. Clint Eastwood (Actor)

7. William Shatner (Actor)

8. Ozzy Osbourne (SInger)

9. Vladimir Putin (Head of Russia)

10. Joe Biden (Current President of the United States)

11. Dick Van Dyke (Actor)

12. Bob Newhart (Actor)

13. Mel Brooks (Actor)

14. Bob McGrath (The guy from Sesame Street)

15. John Madden (Former Football Player/Sportscaster)

16. Dan Rather (Former anchor of CBS Evening News)

17. Tom Brokaw (Former anchor of NBC Nightly News)

18. Johnny Gilbert (Announcer for Jeopardy)

19. Bob Eubanks (Former gameshow host - Newlywed Game)

20. Wink Martindale (Former gameshow host - Tic Tac Dough)

21. Chuck Woolery (Former gameshow host - Wheel of Fortune before Sajak, Scrabble, Lingo)

22. Burt Reynolds (Actor)

23. Barry Williams (Actor - played the role of Greg Brady on The Brady Bunch)

24. Barbara Walters (Former Broadcast Journalist)

25. Morgan Freeman (Actor)

26. Lindsay Lohan (Actress)

27. Boris Spassky (Former Chess World Champion - 1969 to 1972 - lost the famous 1972 match to Bobby Fischer)

28. Walt Clyde Frazier (Former Basketball player - now broadcaster for the New York Knicks)

29. Spike Lee (Famous Knicks fan and Film Director)

30. Steve Bannon (Trump's former strategist - predicting someone will get him while in prison for contempt of congress!)

31. Dolly Parton (Country Singer)

32. Willie Nelson (Country Singer)

33. Samuel L Jackson (Actor)

34. Al Sharpton (MSNBC weekend news anchor and Civil Rights Activist)

35. Henry Winkler (Actor - The Fonz from Happy Days)

36. Sylvester Stallone (Actor)

37. Terry Eugene Bollea (Better known by his stage name - Hulk Hogan - Former Wrestler)

38. Jamie Farr (Actor - best known for playing Klinger on M*A*S*H)

39. Alan Alda (Actor - best known for playing Hawkeye on M*A*S*H)

40. Dan Quayle (Former Vice President of the United States under President George Herbert Walker Bush)

41. Whoopi Goldberg (Actress)

42. Dionne Warwick (Singer/Psychic)

43. Stephen King (Author)

44. James Patterson (Author)

45. Joyce DeWitt (Actress - played the role of Janet on Three's Company)

46. Jim J. Bullock (Actor - played minor roles in Too Close for Comfort and Alf)

47. Macaulay Culkin (Actor - played Kevin McAllister in Home Alone)

48. Elton John (Singer)

49. Bill Medley (Singer - member of the Rightous Brothers and also sang the theme song from Dirty Dancing)

50. Maxine Waters (Current member of the House of Representatives - California 43rd district)

 

 

Alternates:

 

1. Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the House)

2. George W. Bush (Former President)

3. Kim Jong Uh (Head of North Korea)

4. Danica McKeller (Actress - played Winnie Cooper in The Wonder Years)

5. Seth Green (Actor)

 

six feet blunder

1. Leslie Phillips  2.Eileen Ash  3.Boris Pahor  4. Bob Dole  5.Jerry Lee Lewis  6. Betty White  7.Frank Field  8.Harry Belafonte  9.Jacques Delors  10.Art Rupe  11.Cleo Laine  12.Dodie Weir 13.Nehemiah Persoff  14. Tony Bennett  15.Jimmy Carter  16.Petula Clark  17.June Brown  18.Jane Goodall 19.Gudrun Ure  20.Linda Nolan 21.Michael Caine  22.Pele 23.Imelda Marcos 24.Ray Reardon  25.Mikhail Gorbachev  26.HM Queen 27.Frederick Forsyth  28.Lester Piggott 29. Angela Mortimer  30. Stanley Baxter  31.Dr Ruth Westheimer  32.Yoko Ono  33.George Foreman  34.Mary Quant  35.Henry Kissinger  36.Vic Seixas  37.Bobby Vinton  38.Eva Marie Saint  39.Doyle Brunson  40.Bobby Charlton  41.Norman Tebbit  42.James Bolam  43.Ethel Kennedy  44.Roman Polanski  45.Patricia Routledge  46. David Jason  47.David Hockney  48. Frank Ifield  49.Franz Beckenbauer  50.Col Joseph Kittinger  SUBS Kevin Keegan Shannon Doherty  Marvin Lee Aday  Ray Illingwoth  Noam Chomsky     

 

markb4

1) Robert Durst
2) Marsha Hunt
3) Milos Zeman
4) Larry Storch
5) Linda Nolan
6) George Alagiah
7) James L. Buckley
8) Nehemiah Persoff
9) Gina Lollobrigida
10) Bob Barker
11) Lee Adams
12) Al Jaffee
13) Henry Kissinger
14) Joan Copeland
15) Jimmy Carter
16) Norman Lear
17) Sheldon Harnick
18) Joyce Randolph
19) Glynis Johns
20) Carole Cook
21) Phil Collins
22) Leslie Phillips
23) Joan Plowright
24) Rosalynn Carter
25) Pele
26) Jeanette Lee
27) Irene Papas
28) Mel Brooks
29) Bob Newhart
30) Pat Robertson
31) Shannen Doherty
32) Ted Turner
33) Akihito
34) Tony Bennett
35) Billy Connolly
36) Alan Greenspan
37) Jack Hanna
38) Richard M. Sherman
39) Olivia Newton-John
40) Vin Scully
41) Michael Caine
42) Dick Van Dyke
43) Eva Marie Saint
44) Angela Lansbury
45) Peter Marshall
46) Kathryn Crosby
47) Kalpana Kartik
48) Queen Elizabeth II
49) Bill Clinton
50) Bill Turnbull

 

SUBS:

A- Gina Lollobrigida

B- Ramesh Deo

C- Joel Grey

D- June Lockhart

E- Sandra Day O'Connor

 

John Key

1. Queen Elizabeth II

2. Ryan O'Neal

3. Tom Smith

4. Sacheen Littlefeather

5. Henry Kissinger

6. Bill Turnbull

7. Betty White

8. Anastasia Zavorotnyuk

9. Frank Field

10. Jean-Louis Trintignant

11. James Whale

12. Gary Burgess

13. Lata Mangeshkar

14. Khaleda Zia

15. Christos Sartzetakis

16. Miloš Zeman

17. Valentine Strasser

18. Pauline “Granny Smith” Kana

19. Julie Walters

20. Mwai Kibaki

21. Josip Manolić

22. Estelle Harris

23. Raúl Castro

24. Berniece Baker Miracle

25. Derek Draper

26. Bob Barker

27. George Alagiah

28. Jimmy Tarbuck

29. Giorgio Napolitano

30. Liza Minnelli

31. Leslie Phillips

32. Jean-Marie Le Pen

33. Barbara Walters

34. Jiang Zemin

35. Susie Steiner

36. Luis Echeverría

37. Marsha Hunt (Hollywood)

38. Imelda Marcos

39. Jimmy Carter

40. Pope Benedict XVI

41. Art Rupe

42. Rowshan Ershad

43. Queen Beatrix

44. Kaikala Satyanarayana

45. James Lovelock

46. Irene Papas

47. Kat Bjelland

48. Jacques Delors

49. Rosalynn Carter

50. Pelé

51. Angela Lansbury

52. Dick Van Dyke

53. Nichelle Nichols

 

earl

 

1. Queen Elizabeth

2. Henry Kissinger

3. Betty White

4. Pope Benedict

5. Rosemary Harris

6. Gene Hackman

7. Jimmy Carter

8. Sidney Poitier

9. Leslie Philips

10. Rosalynn Carter

11. Jacques Delors

12. Angela Lansbury

13. Jean-Luc Godard

14. Jean-Marie Le Pen

15. Tinto Brass

16. Dick Van Dyke

17. Giorgio Napolitano

18. Imelda Marcos

19. Jean-Louis Trintignant

20. Harry Belafonte

21. Michael Schumacher

22. Raul Castro

23. Alan Greenspan

24. Maggie Smith

25. King Juan Carlos I of Spain

26. Akihito

27. Willie Nelson

28. Julio Iglesias

29. King Constantine II of Greece

30. Yoko Ono

31. James Watson

32. Federico Martín Bahamontes

33. Alain Delon

34. James Caan

35. King Harald V of Norway

36. Ric Flair

37. Chuck Norris

38. Ozzy Osbourne

39. Isabel Perón

40. Pelé

41. Mel Brooks

42. Mihail Gorbachev

43. Michael Caine

44. Clint Eastwood

45. Bob Barker

46. Robbie Coltrane

47. Michael Gambon

48. King Salman of Saudi Arabia

49. Tony Bennett

50. Jack Nicholson

 

51. Ali Khamenei

52. Rod Laver

53. Christopher Lloyd

54. Daniel Ortega

55. Kim Jong Un

 

Theoldlady

 

1. Shannen Doherty 2. Tom Smith 3. James Whale 4. Tom Parker 5. Gary Burgess 6. Gianluca Vialli 7. Jerry Lee Lewis 8. Jimmy Carter 9. Pele 10. Peter Tobin 11. Tom Weiskopf 12. Olivia Newton John 13. Larry Pressler 14. Barbara Walters 15. Sidney Poitier 16. Jeanette Lee (Champion Pool Player) 17. Frank Field 18. Joe Biden 19. Leslie Phillips 20. Glynis Johns 21. Susie Steiner 22. Jean Louis Trintignant 23. Olivia Newton John 24. Gina Lollobrigida 25. Linda Nolan 26. Willie Nelson 27. Prunella Scales 28. Loretta Lynn 29.  Marsha Hunt 30. Noam Chomsky 31. Al Jaffe 32. Yoko Ono 33. Chris Rea 34. June Brown 35. George Alagiah 36. Alberto Fugimori 37. Luis Echeverria 38. Kat Bjelland 39. Mikhail Gorbachev 40. Shane MacGowan 41. Joanne Woodward 42. Henry Kissinger 43. Bob Barker 44. Stanley Baxter 45. Pope Emertitus Benedict XVI 46. Doddie Weir 47. Ethel Kennedy 48. Pope Francis 49. Jana Bennett 50. Ozzy Osbourne 1. 2. Estelle Harris 3. Isabel Peron 4. James Caan 5. Mel Brooks

 

Doulton

 

 

1. Buzz Aldren
2. June Brown
3. J. M. Coetzee
4. Pope Benedict XVI
5. David Crosby
6. Jeff Bridges
7. Emperor Akihito
8. Burt Bacharach
9. Margaret Atwood
10. Mikhail Gorbachev
11. Shecky Greene
12. Vanessa Redgrave
13. Jack Nicholson
14. Prunella Scales
15. Jean-Louis Trintignant
16. Ned Rorem
17. Gaston Glock
18. William Daniels
19. John McPhee
20. Len Deighton
21.  Constantine, ex King of Greece
22. Dick Button
23. June Lockhart
24. Harry Reid
25. Milan Kundera
26. Gene Shalit
27. Norman Rush
28. Ady Barkin
29. Shannen Doherty
30. Montel Williams
31. Alec Baldwin
32. John Astin
33. Jimmy Carter
34. DIck Cavett
35. Dan Rather
36. Peter Higgs
37. Angela Lansbury
38. Jerry Lee Lewis
39. Bob Newhart
40. Olivia Newton-John
41. Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II
42. Leontyne Price
43. Marilyn Horne
44. Robert Redford
45. Edwin Meese
46. Barry Humphries (Dame Edna)
47. Imelda Marcos
48. Bobby Charlton
49. Thich Nhat Hanh
50. Ronald Isley

 

Subs:

Rolf Harris

Brian May

Pat Robertson

Clarence Thomas

Larry Nasser

 

wannamaker

 

1) Jean-Louis Trintignant 2) Frank Field 3) George Alagiah 4) George Pérez 5) Leslie Phillips 6) Bill Turnbull 7) Tony Bennett 8) Russell Bishop 9) Françoise Hardy 10) Jimmy Carter 11) Philippe de Gaulle 12) James Whale 13) Michael Parkinson 14) Shannen Doherty 15) Tung Chee-Hwa 16) Linda Nolan 17) Glynis Johns 18) Vic Elford 19) Jiang Zemin 20) Jerry Lee Lewis 21) Tom Smith (Rugby) 22) Frankie Valli 23) June Brown 24) Pelé 25) Derek Draper 26) Billy Connolly 27) "Superstar" Billy Graham 28) Bob Barker 29) Mikhail Gorbachev 30) Christos Sartzetakis 31) Miloš Zeman 32) Sandra Day O'Connor 33) Tom Parker 34) Nichelle Nichols 35) James Lovelock 36) King Constantine II 37) Norman Tebbit 38) Pope Benedict XVI 39) Dick Vitale 40) Sir Bobby Charlton 41) Olivia Newton-John 42) Alberto Fujimori 43) Jake "The Snake" Roberts 44) Martti Ahtisaari 45) Phil Collins 46) Henry Kissinger 47) James Watson 48) Carlos Bilardo 49) Shane MacGowan 50) Ozzy Osbourne 

 

The Old Crem

 

1.     Jean Marsh 

2.     Michael Gambon

3.     Terry Venables

4.     Frank Field 

5.     Liza Minnelli

6.     David Graham 

7.     Julie Goodyear 

8.     Pele

9.     Milos Zeman

10.  Jake Roberts 

11.  Shannen Doherty

12.  Frankie Valii 

13.  Norman Tebbit

14.  Loretta Lynn

15.  Olivia Newton-John.

16.  Barbara Walters

17.  Queen Elizabeth 

18.  Glynis Johns

19.  Leslie Phillips

20.  Pope Benedict

21.  Sidney Poitier

22.  Mikhail Gorbachev

23.  Jimmy Carter

24.  Rosalynn Carter

25.  Joanne Woodward

26.  Prunella Scales

27.  George Alagiah

28.  Angela Lansbury

29.  Tom Smith

30.  Duke of Kent

31.  Duchess of Kent

32.  Bill Treacher

33.  Jerry Lee Lewis

34.  Bill Turnbull

35.  Douglas Hurd

36.  Bobby Charlton

37.  James Whale

38.  Yoko Ono

39.  Tom Parker

40.  Linda Nolan

41.  Ryan O’Neal

42.  Jean Marie Le Pen

43.  Tina Turner

44.  Betty White

45.  Henry Kissinger

46.  Harry Belafonte

47.  Dick Van Dyke

48.  Imelda Marcos

49.  Bob Barker

50.  Ozzy Osbourne 
 

Subs

Clint Eastwood

Gene Hackman

Joan Collins

Elizabeth Kelly

Leonard Fenton 

 

Dying Probably

 

Dennis Hastert

Leslie Phillips

Josip Manolic

Henry Kissinger

Pope Benedict

Mustafa Ben Halim

Bob Barker

Aung San Suu Kyi

Jimmy Carter

Tony Bennett

Hazel McCallion

Jiang Zemin

Nehemiah Persoff

Dick Cheney

Rita Tushingham

Nikocado Avocado

Marsha Hunt

Caren Marsh Doll

Bill Clinton

Rosalynn Carter

Michael Schumacher

Iris Apfel

June Spencer

Sandra Day O'Connor

Henry Sandon

Elizabeth II

Derek Draper

Carl Hahn

Elizabeth Dole

Olivia Newton John

William Russell

Angela Lansbury

Glynis Johns

Harry Belafonte

Mustafa al Kadhimi

Alexandra Oglivy

Eva Marie Saint

Betty White

Tom Courtenay

Robert Bly

Akihito

David Attenborough

Robert Solow

Jack Hanna

Dick Van Dyke

Edward of Kent

Tom Baker

Mel Brooks

Joe Biden

6ix9ine

 

SUBS:

William Daniels

Richard Franklin

Barry Cryer

Hamako Mori

Logan Paul

 

Pop_Zeus

 

1. Marsha Hunt

2. Art Rupe

3. June Spencer

4. Nehemiah Persoff

5. Eleanor Collins

6. Elizabeth Kelly

7. Luis Echeverria

8. Ray Anthony

9. Henry Kissinger

10. Vic Seixas

11. Dame Angela Lansbury

12. Mel Brooks

13. Harry Belafonte

14. Gina Lollobrigida

15. Bernie Ecclestone

16. Don King

17. Loretta Lynn

18. Yoko Ono

19. Princess Katharine

20. Roman Polanski

21. Leslie Phillips

22. Jimmy Carter

23. Rolf Harris

24. Dick Van Dyke

25. Orenthal James Simpson

26. Boris Pahor

27. Frankie Valli

28. Emperor Akihito

29. Eva Marie Saint

30. Queen Elizabeth II

31. Ebrahim Golestan

32. Bert I Gordon

33. Caren Marsh Doll

34. Sir David Attenborough

35. Joan Collins

36. Prunella Scales

37. Brian Wilson

38. Keith Richards 

39. Michael Crawford

40. Burt Bacharach

41. Barry Cryer

42. Tom Baker

43. Joe Biden

44. Barry Gibb

45. Roy Chubby Brown

46. Ringo Starr

47. Eric Idle

48. Dame Judy Dench

49. Chubby Checker

50. Bob Barker

 

Hell

 

1. Marsha Hunt

2. Nehemiah Persoff

3. Norman Lear

4. James Lovelock

5. Henry Kissinger

6. Glynis Johns

7. Betty White

8. Larry Storch

9. Bob Barker

10. Leslie Phillips

11. Jimmy Carter

12. Russell Nelson

13. Eva Marie Saint

14. David Graham

15. Mahathir Mohamad

16. Giorgio Napolitano

17. Kane Tanaka

18. Angela Lansbury

19. Lucile Randon

20. Queen Elizabeth II

21. Alan Greenspan

22. Tony Bennett

23. Mel Brooks

24. David Attenborough

25. Stanley Baxter

26. Rosalynn Carter

27. Pope Benedict XVI

28. June Brown

29. Sidney Poitier

30. Harry Belafonte

31. William Daniels

32. Estelle Parsons

33. Rosalynn Carter

34. Bob Cousy

35. James Watson

36. Johnny Gilbert

37. Noam Chomsky

38. James Lovell

39. Barbara Walters

40. Bob Newhart

41. Bernard Cribbins

42. Imelda Marcos

43. Buzz Aldrin

44. Joanne Woodward

45. James Baker

46. Sandra Day O’Connor

47. Mikhail Gorbachev

48. Silvia Pinal

49. Raul Castro

50. Mwai Kibaki

 

subs:

 

Silvio Berlusconi

Pele

Frank Field

Shannen Doherty

Emperor Akihito

 

Salmon Mousse

Queen Elizabeth II

Frank Field

Pope Benedict XVI

Bob Barker

Barbara Walters

Tom Smith (rugby)

Larry Pressler

Rob Burrow

Dame Clare Marx

George Perez (comic book artist)

George Alagiah

Constantine II

Milos Zeman

Yoko Ono

James Whale

Robert Durst

Tim Keller

Antonio Inoki

Ted Turner

Jean-Louis Trintignant

Linda Nolan

Shannen Doherty

Tom Weiskopf

Pele

Doddie Weir

Susie Steiner

Jerry Lee Lewis

Khaleda Zia

Francoise Hardy

Sacheen Littlefeather

Bernadette Chirac

Luis Echeverría

Doyle Brunson

Zhu Rongji

Bill Hayden (Aussie politician)

Violeta Chamorro

Tom Parker (boybander)

Guy Lafleur

Parnelli Jones

Jeanette Lee

Bill Turnbull

Bobby Caldwell

Robert Blake

Jimmy Carter

James Watson (Nobel winner)

Carmen Sevilla

Anita Pointer

Olivia Newton-John

Ella Jenkins

Angela Lansbury

 

SUBS

Félicien Kabuga

Willie Nelson

Bob Newhardt

 

Etushispushingupdaisies

 

1. Betty White 

2. Henry Kissinger 

3. Tony Bennett

4. Jimmy Carter 

5. Bob Barker

6. Leslie Philips

7. Joe Exotic 

8. Jacques Delors.

9. Norman Lear 

10. Peter Brook

11. Glynys Jones 

12. Queen Elizabeth II 

13. Mel Brooks 

14. Roger Corman 

15. James Lovelock 

16. Stanley Baxter

17. Norman Jewison

18. June Brown 

19. Sandy Gall.

20. Sidney Poitier 

21. Harry Belafonte 

22. Mikhail Gorbachev 

23. John Kander 

24. Burt Bacharach 

25. Pope Benedict

26. Gina Lollobrigida 

27. Hans Blix 

28. Joan Plowright 

29. Vera Miles 

30.  Burt Bacharach 

31. James Ivory 

32. Hardy Kruger  

33. Milan Kundera 

34. Bob Newhart 

35. Rolf Harris 

36. Angie Dickinson 

37. Domenic Chianese 

38. Alan Alda  

39. James Watson 

40. Jim Lovell 

41.  Len Deighton 

42. Imelda Marcos

43. Joanne Woodward

44. Robert Duvall

45. Quincy Jones

46. Michael Caine. 

47. Kris Kristofferson

48. Alan Arkin

49. Gene Hackman 

50. Ray Cooney

 

MariNisia

1) Jimmy Carter

2) Constance Towers

3) George Soros

4) Rosalynn Carter

5) Alan Greenspan

6) Yoko Ono

7) Pope Benedict XVI

8) Ann Blyth

9) Jerry Lee Lewis

10) Pat Carroll

11) Vin Scully

12) Frances Sternhagen

13) Willie Mays

14) Joanne Woodward

15) Burt Bacharach

16) Linda Nolan

17) Mikhail Gorbachev

18) Julia Reichert

19) Warren Buffett

20) Alice Munro

21) James Lovelock

22) Kat Bjelland

23) Sidney Poitier

24) Khaleda Zia

25) Pelé

26) Gina Lollobrigida

27) Gary Burgess

28) Shannen Doherty

29) George Alagiah

30) Susie Steiner

31) Bill Turnbull

32) June Brown

33) Frank Field (British politician)

34) Imelda Marcos

35) Bob Barker

36) Janis Paige

37) Leslie Phillips 

38) Joyce Randolph

39) Rupert Murdoch

40) Glynis Johns

41) Charley Trippi

42) June Lockhart

43) Jean-Louis Trintignant

44) Sandra Day O'Connor

45) Larry Storch

46) Estelle Harris

47) Vic Seixas

48) Carole Cook

49) Don King

50) Barbara Walters

 

subs:

1) Pat Robertson

2) Irene Papas

3) Harvey Weinstein

4) Gudrun Ure

5) Alain Delon

 

Gooseberry Crumble

Barbara Edwards- first female bbc weather presenter 

Gerald Seymour 

Tony Caunter

Ron Stander 

Jackie Loughery 

Ann Bannon  - writer of lesbian pulp fiction 

Susan Harris 

Terence Stamp 

Joe Morgenstern  -US film critic 

Edgar Pearce 

Maggie Bell - sang no mean city Theme song for Taggart 

John Chapple- fmr  UK chief of defence staff  

David Weeks- fmr prominent politician on Westminster Council 

Graham Nash 

Willie Nelson 

Richard O'Sullivan 

Debra Paget 

Kerri Parker- UK glamour model 

Tuesday Weld 

Dick Savitt 

Hans Blix 

Lara Flynn Boyle 

Cindy Adams 

Jimmy Carter 

Anita Bryant 

Barbara Walters 

Pope Benedict 

Liza Minnelli 

Valentino- fashion designer 

Andrew Parker Bowles 

Vigdis Finnbogodottir  -first female political leader of Iceland 

Grace Slick 

Leo Scullion 

Johnny Morrisey- ex Liverpool footballer 

Maria Riva 

Sepp Blatter 

Sirikit Thai Queen Mother 

Barry Humpheries aka Dame Edna Everage 

Benjamin B Ferencz 

Roy Swetman 

Billy Butler- Merseyside radio presenter 

Joe Benton- ex Labour mp for Bootle 

William Smithers- played Jeremy Wendell in Dallas 

Kay Ivey- governor of Alabama 

Richard Hadlee 

Empress Michiko of Japan 

Jack Jones- US singer  love boat song 

Tom Smith  - Rugby 

Robert Worcester 

Doddie Weir 

 

Subs 

Sophia Loren 

James Whale 

Monica Vitti 

Sandy Gall 

 

Book

Ady Barkan (sub for Betty White)

Benedict XVI

Betty White

Bill Turnbull

Billy Turner

David Graham

Deborah James

Estelle Parsons

Françoise Hardy

Frank Field

Fritz Pleitgen

Fritz Wepper

Gary Burgess

George Alagiah

George Pérez

Gianluca Vialli

Hardy Krüger

Helmut Berger

Henry Kissinger

Igor Bogdanov

Ingrid van Bergen

Iris Apfel

Jake “The Snake” Roberts

James Whale

Jean-Louis Trintignant

Joe Kinnear

Katharine, Duchess of Kent

Khaleda Zia

Linda Nolan

Liselotte Pulver

Loretta Lynn

Margot Eskens

Marianne Faithfull

Martin Walser

Miguel Van Damme

Mike Mora

Mikhail Gorbachev

Mustafa Kayirici

Nana Mouskouri

Natalie Kwadrans

Olivia Newton-John

Pelé

Rainer Langhans

Rob Bolland

Rob Burrow

Rolf Eden

Russell Bishop

Shannen Doherty

Susie Steiner

Tom Parker

Tom Smith

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On or after 1st January in my timezone: 

 

Annami - 1/01 5:46AM

1. Jimmy Carter

2. Gary Burgess

3. Boris Pahor

4. Saturnino de la Fuente Garcia

5. Frank Field, Baron Field of Birkenhead

6. Susie Steiner

7. Khaleda Zia

8. Tim Keller

9. Marsha Hunt

10. Jean-Louis Trintignant

11. Bob Barker

12. Linda Nolan

13. Shannen Doherty

14. Leslie Phillips

15. Gianluca Vialli

16. Joe Exotic

17. Lucile Randon

18. Henry Kissinger

19. Mikhail Gorbachev

20. Olivia Newton-John

21. Pope Benedict XVI

22. Martti Ahtisaari

23. George Alagiah

24. Bernadette Chirac

25. Margaret Keane

26. Imelda Marcos

27. Willie Nelson

28. Joanne Woodward

29. James Whale

30. Bob Newhart

31. Noam Chomsky

32. June Spencer

33. Doddie Weir

34. Tom Weiskopf

35. Gianluca Vialli

36. Rosalynn Carter

37. Luis Echeverria

38. Bill Turnbull

39. Eva Marie Saint

40. Ozzy Osbourne

41. Barbara Walters

42. Buzz Aldrin

43. Rob Burrow

44. Mette Marit

45. Yoko Ono

46. Betty White

47. Dick Cheney

48. Brigitte Bardot

49. Pele

50. Queen Elizabeth II

 

subs

1. Sidney Poitier

2. Prunella Scales

3. David Crosby

4. Mihai Sora

5. Tony Bennett

 

 

Redrumours - 1/01 7:34AM

 

1. The Queen

2. Jimmy Carter

3. Michael Schumacher

4. Paul Henry

5.Des Lynam

6. Richard Pitman

7.BrIan Bennett (The Shadows)

8.Jack Nicholson

9.George Alagiah

10. Ken Hom

11.Joanne Woodward

12. Lester Piggott

13. Dick Lester

14. Derek Underwood

15.Tippi Hedren

16.Judith Durham

17.Bernie Ecclestone

18.Clint Eastwood

19. David Attenborough

20. John Cleese

21.Ozzy Osbourne

22.Douglas Hurd

23.Arthur Scargill

24.Michael Parkinson

25.Eileen Derbyshire

26.P/J  Proby

27.Buzz Aldrin

28.Michael Parkinson

29.Brenda Lee

30.Imelda Marcos

31.Yoko Ono

32.Pete Murray

33.Duke of Kent

34.Duchess of Kent

35. Peter Tobin

36.Patricia Routledge

37.Burd Ward

38.Pele

39.Rosalyn Carter

40.Henry Kissinger

41.Leslie Phillips

42.Julie Goodyear

43.Billy Connolly

44.Petula Clark

45.Mikhail Gorbachev

46.Bill Turnbull

47. Jerry Lee Lewis

48.Ron Yeats

49. Bobby Charlton

50.Pat Boone

 

dimreaper - 1/01 10:14AM

1. Jimmy Carter

2. Bob Barker

3. Tony Bennett

4. Alan Greenspan

5. Leslie Philips

6. Akihito

7. Mikhail Gorbachev

8. Henry Kissinger

9. Sandra Day O'Connor

10. Henry Belafonte

11. Pope Benedict XVI

12. Mel Brooks

13. Noam Chomsky

14. Patricia Routledge

15. Clint Eastwood

16. Willie Nelson

17. Barbara Walters

18. Prunella Scales

19. Betty Boothroyd

20. Angela Lansbury

21. Bob Newhart

22. Vanessa Redgrave

23. Ethel Kennedy

24. Queen Elizabeth II

25. Jean Marsh

26. James Baker (U.S. Secretary of State)

27. David Attenborough

28. Yoko Ono

29. Michael Caine

30. William Daniels

31. Dan Rather

32. Michael Parkinson

33. Buzz Aldrin

34. Pat Robertson

35. Dick Cheney

36. George Soros

37. David Crosby

38. Dennis Skinner

39. John Astin

40. Gene Hackman

41. Robert Wagner

42. Warren Buffett

43. Sidney Poitier

44. Bobby Charlton

45.  Bill Cosby

46. Dick Van Dyke

47. Joe Arpaio

48. Robert Duval

49. Shane MacGowan

50. Rupert Murdoch

 

Death Duke - 1/01 10:26AM

 

1. Elizabeth II

2. Michael Parkinson

3. Iris Apfel 

4. Frank Field

5. Olivia Newton-John

6. Tony Bennett

7. Ghislaine Maxwell

8. Tom Smith

9. Sidney Poitier

10. Charlene, Princess of Monaco

11. Loretta Lynn

12. Jean-Louis Trintigant

13. Jimmy Carter

14. Pope Benedict XVI

15. Shannen Doherty

16. Willie Nelson

17. Barbara Walters

18. Julie Goodyear

19. Mel Brooks 

20. Katherine, Duchess of Kent

21. Angela Lansbury

22. Glynis Johns

23. Harvey Weinstein

24. Derek Draper (Kate Garraway's Husband)

25. Nickado Avocado (Famous Youtuber)

26. Bob Barker

27. George Alagiah

28. Harry Belafonte

29. Berry Gordy

30. Dick van Dyke

31. Raul Castro

32. Noam Chomsky

33. Prunella Scales

34. Leslie Phillips

35. James Earl Jones

36. Henry Kissinger

37. Tom Parker

38. Alan Greenspan

39. Pele

40. David Attenborough

41. Stanley Baxter

42. Eva Marie Saint

43. Barbara Eden 

44. Rosalynn Carter

45. Jean Marie Le Pen

46. Alexei Navalny

47. Tim Curry

48. Danniella Westbrook

49. Jesy Nelson

50. Wendy Williams 

 

Subs: 

1. Prince Edward, Duke of Kent

2. Yoko Ono

3. Ethel Kennedy

4. Patricia Routledge

5. Michael Schumacher

 

TQR - 1/01 10:47AM

 

1. James Whale
2. Shannen Doherty
3. Tom Smith
4. Frank Field
5. Pélé
6. Vic Elford
7. Linda Nolan
8. Jean-Louis Trintignant
9. George Alagiah
10. Leslie Phillips
11. Jimmy Carter
12. Rosalynn Carter
13. Joe Exotic
14. Tom Parker
15. Norman Tebbit
16. Billy Bingham
17. Prunella Scales
18. Jerry Lee Lewis
19. Nichelle Nicholls
20. Doddie Weir
21. Douglas Hurd
22. Queen Elizabeth II
23. Nigel Lawson
24. Mikhail Gorbachev
25. Tony Bennett
26. Juan Carlos I
27. James Lovelock
28. James Watson
29. Joanne Woodward
30. Frankie Valli
31. Yoko Ono
32. Malcolm Hebden
33. Eileen Derbyshire
34. Bobby Charlton
35. Duke of Kent
36. Marianne Faithfull
37. Patrick Murray
38. Noam Chomsky
39. Michael Parkinson
40. Linda Ronstadt
41. Katherine Jackson
42. Leonard Fenton
43. Michael Caine
44. Harry Belafonte
45. Dennis Skinner
46. Sidney Poitier
47. Phil Collins
48. Bill Oddie
49. Michael Gambon
50. Piers Corbyn

 

jonnythegamemaster - 1/01 12:38PM

 

1. Milos Zeman
2. Igor Bogdanoff
3. Frank Field
4. Tina Turner
5. Olivia Newton-John
6. Shannen Doherty
7. Tom Parker
8. Ryan O' Neal
9. Jimmy Carter
10. Prunella Scales
11. Kat Bjelland
12. Nichelle Nichols
13. Marsha Hunt
14. June Brown
15. Joanne Woodward
16. Mette-Marit, Crown Princess of Norway
17. Pele
18. Bobby Charlton
19. Caren Marsh Doll
20. Henry Kissinger
21. Leslie Phillips
22. Frankie Valli
23. David Graham
24. Glynis Johns
25. Jean-Louis Trintignant
26. Bill Turnbull
27. Leonard Fenton
28. David Attenborough
29. Stanley Baxter
30. Linda Rondstadt
31. Linda Nolan
32. Stan Bowles
33. James Whale
34. Pope Benedict XVI
35. Sidney Poitier
36. Harry Belafonte
37. Queen Elizabeth II
38. George Alagiah
39. Dame Clare Marx
40. Vanessa Redgrave
41. Rosalynn Carter
42. Gene Hackman
43. Dennis Skinner
44. Duke of Kent
45. Tom Baker
46. Maggie Smith
47. Billy Connolly
48. Bill Treacher
49. Shane MacGowan
50. Donald Trump

 

Subs
1. Estelle Harris
2. Mel Brooks
3. Mikhail Gorbachev
4. George RR Martin
5. Harvey Weinstein

 

Nick - 1/01 12:50PM

1. Jimmy Carter
2. Tony Bennett
3. Pele
4. Pope Benedict XIV
5. Henry Kissinger
6. Bob Barker
7. Mikhail Gorbachev
8. Barbara Walters
9. Leslie Phillips
10. Jean-Louis Trintignant
11. Mel Brooks
12. Jerry Lee Lewis
13. George Alagiah
14. Prunella Scales
15. Shannen Doherty
16. Frank Field
17. Vanessa Redgrave
18. Linda Nolan
19. Joanne Woodward
20. James Whale
21. Queen Elizabeth II
22. Dick van Dyke
23. Monica Vitti
24. Olivia Newton-John
25. Bob Newhart
26. Michael Gambon
27. Jacques Delors
28. Noam Chomsky
29. Eva Marie Saint
30. Jiang Zemin
31. Norman Lear
32. Angela Lansbury
33. Imelda Marcos
34. Juan Carlos I
35. Raul Castro
36. Alberto Fujimori
37. David Attenborough
38. James Earl Jones
39. Buzz Aldrin
40. Tom Parker
41. Johnny Gilbert
42. Rosalynn Carter
43. Sidney Poitier
44. Harry Belafonte
45. Sandra Day O'Connor
46. Nightbirde
47. Bernie Ecclestone
48. David Crosby
49. Jean Chretien
50. Ted Kaczynski

 

The Daredevil - 1/01 12:54PM

 

Jean-Louis Trintignant 

Frank Field

Bob Barker 

Leslie Phillips 

Angela Lansbury 

Glynis Johns

Henry Kissinger

Jimmy Carter

Jacques Delors 

Tony Bennett 

Leonard Fenton

Sidney Poitier 

Harry Belafonte 

George Pérez

James Whale

George Alagiah 

Linda Nolan

Norman Tebbit 

Pelé

Joss Ackland 

Joanne Woodward 

José Sarney 

Barbara Walters 

Jean Marsh

Michel Bouquet 

Irene Papas

Pope Benedict XVI

James Watson

David Graham

Douglas Hurd

Monica Vitti 

Phyllida Law

Giorgio Napolitano

Alberto Fujimori 

Kenneth Cope

Mahathir Mohamad 

Mikhail Gorbachev 

Françoise Hardy

Len Deighton 

Lee Montague 

Jack Higgins

Joan Plowright 

Jacques Dutronc

Jake “The Snake” Roberts 

Vera Miles

Jerry Lee Lewis

Nichelle Nichols

Hardy Krüger

Robert Wagner

Alain Delon

 

Subs

Martti Ahtisaari

Monty Norman

Bill Treacher

Dennis Skinner

Tom Lehrer

 

Miranda lass - 1/01 8:11PM

 

1. Joe Biden

2. George Lucas

3. Bill Roache

4. Billy Connolly

5. Dick Van Dyke

6. June Spencer

7. Malcolm Hebden

8. Bobby Charlton

9. David Crosby

10. Alan Greenspan

11. Eva Marie Saint

12. Jimmy Carter

13. June Brown

14. David Gates

15. Judi Dench

16. John Savident

17. Herb Douglas

18. Phillip Lowrie

19. Robbie Coltrane

20. Harry Belafonte

21. Willie Nelson

22. Joanne Woodward

23. Bernard Cribbins

24. Jacques Delores

25. Thelma Barlow

26. Arnold Schwarzenegger

27. Brian May 

28. Loretta Lynn

29. George Lazenby

30. Roselyn Carter

31. Rod Stewart

32. John Virgo

33. Grace Bumbry

34. Boris Johnson

35. Ian Mckellen 

36. Chris Whitty

37. Shawn Crahan

38. Donald Trump

39. Michael J Fox

40. Leslie Phillips

41. Lubomir Strougal

42. Tomiichi Murayama

43. Robert A Chase

44. Howard Hesseman

45. Larry Storch

46. Knox Martin

47. Paul Muller

48. Stan Waterman

49. Danny Devito

50. Jim Carrey

 

gcreptile - 2/01/3:49AM

 

1Pelé 26Bob Barker

2Jerry Lee Lewis27Vanessa Redgrave

3Frank Field 28Jimmy Carter

4Bill Turnbull 29Olivia Newton-John

5George Perez30Gary Burgess

6Tony Bennett31Raul Castro

7Sacheen Littlefeather32Shane MacGowan

8Gianluca Vialli33George Alagiah

9Jean-Louis Trintignant34Susie Steiner

10Nigel Lawson35Barbara Walters

11Nigel Starmer-Smith36Mohamed Al Fayed

12Bobby Charlton37Phyllida Law

13Gordon McQueen38Linda Nolan

14Joe Kinnear 39Henry Kissinger

15Phil Read 40Bobby Caldwell

16Gail Halvorsen41Catherine Wybourne

17Russell Bishop42John Gwynne

18Jimmy Calderwood43Bernadette Mayer

19Ghislaine Maxwell44Clare Marx

20Rosalynn Carter45Mike Yarwood

21Dennis Skinner46Don West

22Liz Sheridan 47Francoise Hardy

23Sandra Day O'Connor48Julia Reichert

24Leslie Phillips49Fred Claire

25Benedikt XVI50Israel Dresner

Subs:Sidney Poitier, The Duke of Kent  

 

_floydylan_  1/01/2022 14:47;; 16/01/22 10:02

1. Pele

2. Francoise Hardy

3. Jean-Louis Trintignant

4. Jimmy Carter

5. Queen Elizabeth II

6. Superstar Billy Graham

7. John Goodenrough

8. James Lovelock

9. Jerry Lee Lewis

10. Marianne Faithful

11. Olivia Newton-John

12. Buzz Aldrin 

13. Larry Storch

14. Rick Davies

15. David Attenborough 

16. Ricou Browning 

17. James Whale

18. Leslie Phillips

19. Larry Holley 

20. Kane Tanaka

21. Ozzy Osbourne

22. Bob Barker

23. Shannon Doherty 

24. Rosalynn Carter

25. Mikhail Gorbachev 

26. Jake Roberts

27. Henry Kissinger

28. Bob Newhart

29. Linda Nolan 

30. Pope Benedict 

31. Sidney Poitier ❌

32. Barbara Walters

33. Glynis Johns

34. Tony Bennett

35. Louis Farrakhan 

36. Juan Carlos I

37. Frank Field

38. Igor Bogdanov ❌

39. Robert Solow

40. Harry Belafonte 

41. Dick Cheney

42. Marsha Hunt

43. Angela Lansbury

44. George Perez

45. Lord Norman Tebbit

46. Derek Draper

47. Frankie Valli

48. Mohamed Al-Fayed

49. Kris Kristoforterson

50. David Crosby

 

[Bibliogryphon 9,571]

I am going early

 

My names are either so well known or not well considered enough to be stolen so here goes

 

Thanks  @John Key for running this

 

1.       Leslie Philips

2.       Jimmy Greaves

3.       Bob Dole

4.       Abdelaziz Bouteflika

5.       Betty White

6.       Joanne Woodward

7.       James Watson

8.       Pope Benedict XVI

9.       Douglas Hurd

10.   Sidney Poitier

11.   June Spencer

12.   Desmond Tutu

13.   Bob Barker

14.   Jimmy Carter

15.   Jean Marie Le Pen

16.   Penelope Lively

17.   Ysanne Churchman

18.   Gudrun Ure

19.   Shirley Hughes

20.   James Lovelock

21.   Frank Williams (Motor Racing)

22.   Kane Tanaka

23.   Raymond Briggs

24.   Timothy Dudley-Smith

25.   Rosalynn Carter

26.   William Russell

27.   Alan Dean Foster

28.   Harry Belafonte

29.   David Attenborough

30.   Bob Newhart

31.   Ray Lawler

32.   David Graham

33.   Robert Fyfe

34.   Michael J Fox

35.   Bill Turnbull

36.   Nigel Lawson

37.   Larry Niven

38.   Vanessa Redgrave

39.   Rupert Murdoch

40.   Eileen Derbyshire

41.   Edna O’Brien

42.   A S Byatt

43.   Frank Borman

44.   Niels Olsen

45.   Alice Munro

46.   Stanley Baxter

47.   Jean Marsh

48.   Mikhail Gorbachov

49.   Cleo Laine

50.   Jiang Zemin 

 

 

Subs

 

Joan D.Vinge

Anthony Sher

Nichelle Nichols

Billy Connolly

June Brown

[gcreptile 10,966]

Nice one, and about time, I guess.

I guess many will just drop their Shadow lists in here, but I think in a few cases it will require a little tweaking, as the picks have to be at least somewhat internationally famous, i.e. no Ruth Apilado, for example.

From my current shadow list, I might have to remove Catherine Wybourne, possibly Brendon Ormsby, maybe Michael McKevitt? Ah well, should be doable.

[John Key 747]

30 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Nice one, and about time, I guess.

I guess many will just drop their Shadow lists in here, but I think in a few cases it will require a little tweaking, as the picks have to be at least somewhat internationally famous, i.e. no Ruth Apilado, for example.

From my current shadow list, I might have to remove Catherine Wybourne, possibly Brendon Ormsby, maybe Michael McKevitt? Ah well, should be doable.

I would genuinely be in support for those people to be in a shadow DeathList. It's all clear that they're famous, they all have Wikipedia pages and are regionally or locally famous. 

That's something I may need to rephrase, I'm unsure how to convey that message. 

Those people aren't nobodies. 

But then I have no problem with someone like Bill Gates' Dad being on the official DeathList, so I may need to be hanged, drawn and quartered. 

 

Most of my rules were taken from the main DeathList page with just making it any country rather than just the UK. 

 

A lot of people keep a shadow DeathList and I wouldn't want people to have to think too hard or change what they would usually make just for this! 

[Bibliogryphon 9,571]

9 minutes ago, John Key said:

I would genuinely be in support for those people to be in a shadow DeathList. It's all clear that they're famous, they all have Wikipedia pages and are regionally or locally famous. 

That's something I may need to rephrase, I'm unsure how to convey that message. 

Those people aren't nobodies. 

But then I have no problem with someone like Bill Gates' Dad being on the official DeathList, so I may need to be hanged, drawn and quartered. 

 

Most of my rules were taken from the main DeathList page with just making it any country rather than just the UK. 

 

A lot of people keep a shadow DeathList and I wouldn't want people to have to think too hard or change what they would usually make just for this! 

 

There was an idea in Punt Pool (iirc) that the game runner essentially creates a Star Chamber of maybe five or so individuals who for borderline picks rule on their eligibility a simple 3:2 majority allows them in. Otherwise it is no QO no point which means player must make the judgement for themselves

[arghton 6,702]

I'll try this:

 

1. Abdelaziz Bouteflika replaced with sub #1 Sandra Day O'Connor

2. Martti Ahtisaari

3. Henry Kissinger

4. Monica Vitti

5. Miloš Zeman

6. Leslie Phillips

7. Vesa-Matti Loiri

8. Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani

9. Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan

10. Bob Dole replaced with sub #2 Ion Iliescu

11. Kitanofuji Katsuaki

12. Violeta Chamorro

13. Queen Sirikit

14. Imelda Marcos

15. Pele

16. Mengistu Haile Mariam

17. Vicente Fernandez replaced with sub #4 Pervez Musharraf

18. Sultan Ghalib II al-Qu'aiti

19. Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh (Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia)

20. Rabbi Eliezer Berland

21. Amadou-Mahtar M'Bow

22. Keith Richards

23. Margarita Terekhova

24. Pasqual Maragall

25. Kane Tanaka

26. Emomali Rahmon

27. Ivan Silayev

28. Mikhail Gorbachev

29. Salman of Saudi Arabia

30. Tui Atua Tupua Tamasese Efi

31. John Howard

32. Sitiveni Rabuka

33. Ati George Sokomanu

34. Benedict XVI

35. Ozzy Osbourne

36. George R. R. Martin

37. Roman Polanski

38. Yoko Ono

39. Rudy Giuliani

40. Prunella Scales

41. Aung San Suu Kyi

42. Desi Bouterse

43. Alan Brazil

44. Billy Connolly

45. Michael Dukakis

46. Jimmy Carter

47. Joseph Estrada

48. Louis Farrakhan

49. Alberto Fujimori

50. Rolf Harris

 

Subs:

Sandra Day O'Connor

Ion Iliescu

Abdul Qadeer Khan 

Pervez Musharraf

Dick Van Dyke

[TQR 14,386]

24 minutes ago, arghton said:

I'll try this:

 

1. Abdelaziz Bouteflika

2. Martti Ahtisaari

3. Henry Kissinger

4. Monica Vitti

5. Miloš Zeman

6. Leslie Phillips

7. Vesa-Matti Loiri

8. Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani

9. Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan

10. Bob Dole

11. Kitanofuji Katsuaki

12. Violeta Chamorro

13. Queen Sirikit

14. Imelda Marcos

15. Pele

16. Mengistu Haile Mariam

17. Vicente Fernandez

18. Sultan Ghalib II al-Qu'aiti

19. Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh (Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia)

20. Rabbi Eliezer Berland

21. Amadou-Mahtar M'Bow

22. Keith Richards

23. Margarita Terekhova

24. Pasqual Maragall

25. Kane Tanaka

26. Emomali Rahmon

27. Ivan Silayev

28. Mikhail Gorbachev

29. Salman of Saudi Arabia

30. Tui Atua Tupua Tamasese Efi

31. John Howard

32. Sitiveni Rabuka

33. Ati George Sokomanu

34. Benedict XVI

35. Ozzy Osbourne

36. George R. R. Martin

37. Roman Polanski

38. Yoko Ono

39. Rudy Giuliani

40. Prunella Scales

41. Aung San Suu Kyi

42. Desi Bouterse

43. Alan Brazil

44. Billy Connolly

45. Michael Dukakis

46. Jimmy Carter

47. Joseph Estrada

48. Louis Farrakhan

49. Alberto Fujimori

50. Rolf Harris

 

Subs:

Sandra Day O'Connor

Ion Iliescu

Abdul Qadeer Khan

Pervez Musharraf

Dick Van Dyke

And this is why the Shadow List hasn’t ever been a competition. You get lists like this…what you think would be the reaction if fucking Mengistu Haile Mariam was on the DL? Or Sitiveni Rabuka? Or some random cunting Rabbi?

[Banana 859]

I don't really think many people here understand what a "shadow list" is meant to really be. You're supposed to follow the same rules as the committee, but then people have random fringe fame people on their lists so idk.

 

I feel like if this pool were to work we'd need some sort of Crowdsource-esque way to gather votes on a whole lot of celebs to gauge whether they'd be viable or not. Otherwise there really is no metric for which to accept which celebs. Luckily you made this in September (for whatever reason) so there's plenty of time.

[drol 11,933]

46 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:

And this is why the Shadow List hasn’t ever been a competition. You get lists like this…what you think would be the reaction if fucking Mengistu Haile Mariam was on the DL? Or Sitiveni Rabuka? Or some random cunting Rabbi?

Mengistu is DEFINITELY a deathlisty name. Red Terror ideator who ruled Ethiopia for two decades, one of the worst dictators of the continent, responsible for about 2000000 Ethiopian deaths. 

 

I won't resort to Dai Llewellyn or Ruby Muhammad, but DL has scored with Daniel arap Moi, Robert Mugabe, Mobutu and Hastings Banda. Mengistu is at their level of (in)fame if not even more. 

 

I repeat ignorance is not a virtue. 

[John Key 747]

22 minutes ago, drol said:

Mengistu is DEFINITELY a deathlisty name. Red Terror ideator who ruled Ethiopia for two decades, one of the worst dictators of the continent, responsible for about 2000000 Ethiopian deaths. 

 

I won't resort to Dai Llewellyn or Ruby Muhammad, but DL has scored with Daniel arap Moi, Robert Mugabe, Mobutu and Hastings Banda. Mengistu is at their level of (in)fame if not even more. 

 

I repeat ignorance is not a virtue. 

I thought it's a fair point to make, that ShadowLists might produce names that wouldn't appear on the real deathlist. 

But the person complaining about two world leaders and a very infamous religious leader I thought I would ignore. 

54 minutes ago, Banana said:

I don't really think many people here understand what a "shadow list" is meant to really be. You're supposed to follow the same rules as the committee, but then people have random fringe fame people on their lists so idk.

 

I feel like if this pool were to work we'd need some sort of Crowdsource-esque way to gather votes on a whole lot of celebs to gauge whether they'd be viable or not. Otherwise there really is no metric for which to accept which celebs. Luckily you made this in September (for whatever reason) so there's plenty of time.

I get your idea. 

The committee is UK-centric while the world is a pretty big place. I'm open to suggestions, I quite liked the idea of borderline names being voted on if necessary. 

I'm on the fence from most of what you say. I just don't think the concept of a ShadowList should be so strict, nor did I particularly want to a big crowdsource-esque way to gather votes. 

 

 

For my own sanity I'll probably step back and let criticism of this thread or individual names go without directly responding to them, but I am open to ideas. 
This website has lots of polarising people who all hold opinions and I'm open to listening to some of them. My approach to this is very laid back right now. 

 

[TQR 14,386]

1 hour ago, drol said:

Mengistu is DEFINITELY a deathlisty name. Red Terror ideator who ruled Ethiopia for two decades, one of the worst dictators of the continent, responsible for about 2000000 Ethiopian deaths. 

 

I won't resort to Dai Llewellyn or Ruby Muhammad, but DL has scored with Daniel arap Moi, Robert Mugabe, Mobutu and Hastings Banda. Mengistu is at their level of (in)fame if not even more. 

 

I repeat ignorance is not a virtue. 

Totally subjective. Which is why it doesn’t work.

[Bibliogryphon 9,571]

I think there is a real difference between FFBI and people you (generic being) haven't heard of. There are a small number of us on here who know more than is considered reasonable about a certain UK SF show and we get caught out when people like David Fisher, Philip Latham & Jane Baker do not get QOs. I know nothing about baseball or wrestling so you are unlikely to see those types of names on my lists but they clearly have fame credentials which are outside my frame of reference 

[msc 18,438]

13 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said:

I think there is a real difference between FFBI and people you (generic being) haven't heard of. There are a small number of us on here who know more than is considered reasonable about a certain UK SF show and we get caught out when people like David Fisher, Philip Latham & Jane Baker do not get QOs. I know nothing about baseball or wrestling so you are unlikely to see those types of names on my lists but they clearly have fame credentials which are outside my frame of reference 

 

Although the wrestling QO thing is still relatively new - Nick Bockwinkel (a HOFer, fyi) died in 2015 without a single QO, which scared me off Blackjack Mulligan and Smith Hart, both of whom got obits with nae bother.

 

Found out this week that Marc Wilkinson is apparently still with us. Not a name that would jump out at most but I like to think going "oh the Blue Remembered Hills/If... composer" immediately marks him as notable, if not household! Whereas if a week goes by without you or Willz or Toast or drol or Spade or any number of others interested in stuff outside my sphere bring up someone clearly notable but previously unknown to me, then that's a wasted DL week imo. Or even within my sphere of interest, after all, nobody knows every actor or writer in the world. 

[Great Uncle Bulgaria 1,282]

I agree with drol about Mengistu but otherwise TQR is right, there are 19 people on Arghton's list I've never heard of (most of the Asian/Eastern-sounding ones) who would surely not make the DL on fame grounds.

Or maybe I'm just ignorant :-)

[Toast 16,132]

14 minutes ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said:

I agree with drol about Mengistu but otherwise TQR is right, there are 19 people on Arghton's list I've never heard of (most of the Asian/Eastern-sounding ones) who would surely not make the DL on fame grounds.

Or maybe I'm just ignorant :-)

 

I think it turns on whether the list is to be directly comparable to the DL, which tends to be UK centric. 

In which case one would need to ask oneself "Would the committee be likely to consider this person?"

[gcreptile 10,966]

I think, some higher standard of fame should be used. Otherwise, well, there's already the Death By Numbers.

[John Key 747]

I just added this to the first post:

It is a valid criticism to say that the lack of rules may affect the quality of names or the formality of this deadpool. Some people already make a Shadow DeathList and I want this to be a place where we can compare them. For 2022, at least, I won't have formal rules on names. Being reported in the newspaper and having a Wikipedia Article that isn't a stub will go a long way. 

 

8 hours ago, gcreptile said:

I think, some higher standard of fame should be used. Otherwise, well, there's already the Death By Numbers.

Could you suggest a higher level of fame criteria I could use that wouldn't be too strict? I think the balance here could just be Bibliography's reference to the Punt Pool of some kind of council of 5 voting on borderline names with "a simple 3:2 majority allows them in".

 

[gcreptile 10,966]

On 16/09/2021 at 23:37, John Key said:

Could you suggest a higher level of fame criteria I could use that wouldn't be too strict? I think the balance here could just be Bibliography's reference to the Punt Pool of some kind of council of 5 voting on borderline names with "a simple 3:2 majority allows them in".

Maybe having a wikipedia page in at least 5 languages? Exceptions maybe for British people - who only need and english one, but with a minimum number of words.

[Banana 859]

I would just suggest someone getting a certain amount of obits and maybe requiring like a BBC one

[Bibliogryphon 9,571]

8 hours ago, Banana said:

I would just suggest someone getting a certain amount of obits and maybe requiring like a BBC one

That doesn't really help at the selection stage

[Banana 859]

1 hour ago, Bibliogryphon said:

That doesn't really help at the selection stage

 

It does if people keep this in mind and don't pick people who won't meet this criteria.

[John Key 747]

Things to keep in mind about any person you choose:

• Are they likely to obit in a major newspaper? 
• Are they a well known celebrity? 
• Do they have a Wikipedia page in any language (that clearly wasn't made just for Deathlisting)

You will not be asked to prove any of these when you post your link, but upon your candidates death you may need to meet some of these criteria. 

 

@Banana, @gcreptile

thanks for those suggestions. I think they're good criteria to keep in mind. I don't want peoples Shadow DeathLists to be challenged as they post here as has happened, but for when someone dies to score a point they should be taken into consideration. 

 

I feel mixed. I could flip the switch and have clear, stricter criteria. 

But ShadowList's should be fun and relaxed. People probably already have a ShadowList of 50 celebs, I would like them to just use that. 

[DieHardGiantsFan 2]

Here's my list of 50 for 2022 with my 5 substitutes:

 

1. Donald Trump (Worst President EVER)

2. Jimmy Carter (Former President)

3. Betty White (Actress)

4. Bob Barker (Former host of The Price is Right)

5. Angela Lansbury (Actress)

6. Clint Eastwood (Actor)

7. William Shatner (Actor)

8. Ozzy Osbourne (SInger)

9. Vladimir Putin (Head of Russia)

10. Joe Biden (Current President of the United States)

11. Dick Van Dyke (Actor)

12. Bob Newhart (Actor)

13. Mel Brooks (Actor)

14. Bob McGrath (The guy from Sesame Street)

15. John Madden (Former Football Player/Sportscaster)

16. Dan Rather (Former anchor of CBS Evening News)

17. Tom Brokaw (Former anchor of NBC Nightly News)

18. Johnny Gilbert (Announcer for Jeopardy)

19. Bob Eubanks (Former gameshow host - Newlywed Game)

20. Wink Martindale (Former gameshow host - Tic Tac Dough)

21. Chuck Woolery (Former gameshow host - Wheel of Fortune before Sajak, Scrabble, Lingo)

22. Burt Reynolds (Actor)

23. Barry Williams (Actor - played the role of Greg Brady on The Brady Bunch)

24. Barbara Walters (Former Broadcast Journalist)

25. Morgan Freeman (Actor)

26. Lindsay Lohan (Actress)

27. Boris Spassky (Former Chess World Champion - 1969 to 1972 - lost the famous 1972 match to Bobby Fischer)

28. Walt Clyde Frazier (Former Basketball player - now broadcaster for the New York Knicks)

29. Spike Lee (Famous Knicks fan and Film Director)

30. Steve Bannon (Trump's former strategist - predicting someone will get him while in prison for contempt of congress!)

31. Dolly Parton (Country Singer)

32. Willie Nelson (Country Singer)

33. Samuel L Jackson (Actor)

34. Al Sharpton (MSNBC weekend news anchor and Civil Rights Activist)

35. Henry Winkler (Actor - The Fonz from Happy Days)

36. Sylvester Stallone (Actor)

37. Terry Eugene Bollea (Better known by his stage name - Hulk Hogan - Former Wrestler)

38. Jamie Farr (Actor - best known for playing Klinger on M*A*S*H)

39. Alan Alda (Actor - best known for playing Hawkeye on M*A*S*H)

40. Dan Quayle (Former Vice President of the United States under President George Herbert Walker Bush)

41. Whoopi Goldberg (Actress)

42. Dionne Warwick (Singer/Psychic)

43. Stephen King (Author)

44. James Patterson (Author)

45. Joyce DeWitt (Actress - played the role of Janet on Three's Company)

46. Jim J. Bullock (Actor - played minor roles in Too Close for Comfort and Alf)

47. Macaulay Culkin (Actor - played Kevin McAllister in Home Alone)

48. Elton John (Singer)

49. Bill Medley (Singer - member of the Rightous Brothers and also sang the theme song from Dirty Dancing)

50. Maxine Waters (Current member of the House of Representatives - California 43rd district)

 

 

Alternates:

 

1. Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the House)

2. George W. Bush (Former President)

3. Kim Jong Uh (Head of North Korea)

4. Danica McKeller (Actress - played Winnie Cooper in The Wonder Years)

5. Seth Green (Actor)