BonScott 122 Posted January 9 20 hours ago, Life Is Beautiful said: Not only the greatest German player of all time but arguably also the greatest European player of all time. By changing how the sweeper/central defender role is played he completely revolutionized the game, which is something only a very, very small group of players can say. The fact that some people on this forum have never heard of him but probably have heard of Harry Maguire and John Stones makes me sad. RIP. Am old enough to have watched some of his career and sure he was a good defender but not a patch on players like Maldini, Baresi, Van Dijk, etc he was good but think he is being overhyped a bit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted January 10 My Inverse team keeps taking on water! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Life Is Beautiful 716 Posted January 11 On 10/01/2024 at 01:01, BonScott said: Am old enough to have watched some of his career and sure he was a good defender but not a patch on players like Maldini, Baresi, Van Dijk, etc he was good but think he is being overhyped a bit Well he was never really a defender like Baresi and Maldini (yeah I refuse to put that last, one season wonder in the same sentence as these legends). As I said, Beckenbauer's importance resides in the fact that he changed how the role of sweeper is played by INVENTING and perfecting the libero role (think Baresi, Busquets and Xavi all rolled into one player). That, in addition to his individual and club/country silverware, makes him the greatest European player of all time, imo only Johann Cruyff comes close. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Life Is Beautiful 716 Posted January 11 On 09/01/2024 at 04:47, drol said: Do you think he will QO? Not only did he do that, he was apparently important enough to be featured on Wikipedia's main page. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,573 Posted January 11 35 minutes ago, Life Is Beautiful said: Not only did he do that, he was apparently important enough to be featured on Wikipedia's main page. I think drol was taking the piss, probably out of TOC who normally asks that question on every thread. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
openviews 330 Posted May 2 On 08/01/2024 at 17:04, openviews said: Fastest to three correct predictions and only time theres been three correct in January. Probably no more till June now. Apologies for cursing the deathlist. 2 1 10 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
openviews 330 Posted June 18 On 08/01/2024 at 17:04, openviews said: Fastest to three correct predictions and only time theres been three correct in January. Probably no more till June now. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
