The Great Cornholio 902 Posted August 13 On 03/08/2024 at 15:56, Zsa Zsa's leg said: Tells his son, Chip Carter, that he wants to live long enough to vote for Kamala Harris. Article says he has been more alert and following politics and the war in Gaza lately. Carter, on his deathbed, solely hanging on just to vote in November (even though he wont be alive to benefit from whoever gets in): - Too weak and frail to do anything - Does whatever he can to keep himself alive (brain stimulation, praying, good mental attitude etc) - Does this continuously - Reaches 100th birthday, too old to even properly celebrate it. Probably wont want himself on camera over how old he is by then. - A month later, the time has come for him to vote - Results come in, Trump has won (betting odds atm have him the most likely winner) - Jimmy "Oh no!" *Dies of disappointment* 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted August 13 10 minutes ago, The Great Cornholio said: *Dies of disappointment* Also everyone here once this occurs, because there'll be no more pointless updates on this thread and there'll be nothing to live for. Who am i kidding? We know this thread won't die even when he does. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 278 Posted August 14 accidentally made a mistake. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Cornholio 902 Posted August 14 8 minutes ago, Tango854 said: Honestly cant see a Harris presidency happening, since Trump's numbers has always been underestimated historically (assuming the odds are off the new polls). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 278 Posted August 14 Just now, The Great Cornholio said: Honestly cant see a Harris presidency happening, since Trump's numbers has always been underestimated historically (assuming the odds are off the new polls). Polls are fake on that we agree, but don't place your faith in the prediction powers of degenerate gamblers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,116 Posted August 14 8 hours ago, The Great Cornholio said: Trump's numbers has always been underestimated historically (assuming the odds are off the new polls). Yes, but I saw an interview of a pollster saying that since Trump and Brexit victories and Rassemblement National achievements, poll institutes tend to overestimate results of right wing/conservatives/populists parties and candidates. So that if the latter wins, it won’t be a surprise. It was one of the explanations for the less numbers of MP for RN got compared to the predictions in the last election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDMUND901 34 Posted August 14 Another thing that may be keeping Jimmy going is maybe he has a new girlfriend. Millions of widows and widowers with long happy marriages find love again and I am sure Rosalynn would want that for him if he met the right person. 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,586 Posted August 14 Just now, EDMUND901 said: Another thing that may be keeping Jimmy going is maybe he has a new girlfriend. Millions of widows and widowers with long happy marriages find love again and I am sure Rosalynn would want that for him if he met the right person. Shut it troll. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,137 Posted August 14 1 hour ago, Ulitzer95 said: Shut it troll. Shut the thread might be a good move. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Cornholio 902 Posted August 14 7 hours ago, Sinbabad said: Yes, but I saw an interview of a pollster saying that since Trump and Brexit victories and Rassemblement National achievements, poll institutes tend to overestimate results of right wing/conservatives/populists parties and candidates. So that if the latter wins, it won’t be a surprise. It was one of the explanations for the less numbers of MP for RN got compared to the predictions in the last election. Historical data that shows a correlation within Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden's campaigns that Trump ends up being underestimated by around 6% by polls in contrast to those election results. I doubt recent events will change that. If anything, the 3 big things currently going for Trump would be: 1. His recent publicity on X, targeting moderates with massive viewership 2. The UK riots and Kier's handling of them has only made the MAGA base more determined to vote for him. 3. A few weeks ago, Trump was shot on live TV. His MAGA base would probably walk over glass to vote for him after that. The best thing Kamala has going for her is Trump's idea on dissolving the department of education, which tbf has probably bought her some points 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 278 Posted August 14 45 minutes ago, The Great Cornholio said: Historical data that shows a correlation within Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden's campaigns that Trump ends up being underestimated by around 6% by polls in contrast to those election results. I doubt recent events will change that. If anything, the 3 big things currently going for Trump would be: 1. His recent publicity on X, targeting moderates with massive viewership 2. The UK riots and Kier's handling of them has only made the MAGA base more determined to vote for him. 3. A few weeks ago, Trump was shot on live TV. His MAGA base would probably walk over glass to vote for him after that. The best thing Kamala has going for her is Trump's idea on dissolving the department of education, which tbf has probably bought her some points 1. The technical problems were more interesting than the interview itself, which was pretty boring right-wing stuff. It doesn't actually get 1 billion views, as if that many people still even use twitter. 2. ??? 3. Surprisingly, that will probably turn out to be a non-factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Cornholio 902 Posted August 14 4 minutes ago, Tango854 said: 1. The technical problems were more interesting than the interview itself, which was pretty boring right-wing stuff. It doesn't actually get 1 billion views, as if that many people still even use twitter. 2. ??? 3. Surprisingly, that will probably turn out to be a non-factor. Its about perspective, this is the MAGA perspective. If you dont understand your enemy then how are you expected to win? You've got to listen to everyone's opinions to be truly informed, even those you disagree with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 278 Posted August 14 3 minutes ago, The Great Cornholio said: Its about perspective, this is the MAGA perspective. If you dont understand your enemy then how are you expected to win? You've got to listen to everyone's opinions to be truly informed, even those you disagree with. I understand but nobody moderate listened to that interview, Twitter as of this moment is but a shell of it's former self, filled to the brim with bots and dead accounts. If trump wins it's not going to be because of the one interview he had with Elon musk or because some racists decided to riot in the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted August 14 4 minutes ago, Tango854 said: If trump wins It's because 50.1%(+) of Americans had successful Brain Removal Surgery. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 278 Posted August 14 Just now, En Passant said: It's because 50.1% of Americans had successful Brain Removal Surgery. Trump hadn't won the national popular vote and I doubt he will in this election. So it's probably closer to 46% of Americans having successful brain removal surgery. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Cornholio 902 Posted August 14 2 minutes ago, Tango854 said: I understand but nobody moderate listened to that interview, Twitter as of this moment is but a shell of it's former self, filled to the brim with bots and dead accounts. If trump wins it's not going to be because of the one interview he had with Elon musk or because some racists decided to riot in the UK. Again, perspective. America is not as left wing as us, so their perspectives will be different. Moderates are turning towards him, from my experience with the Americans I know, its mostly down to lower taxes. Interestingly enough, a muslim I used to work with is voting for Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted August 14 15 minutes ago, Tango854 said: Trump hadn't won the national popular vote and I doubt he will in this election. So it's probably closer to 46% of Americans having successful brain removal surgery. The original was posted underneath the quote "If Trump wins". Thus 50.1% would be a prerequisite in that instance (electoral college variation notwithstanding). Hopefully, as you say, in reality it's less than that percentage and the world can afford a huge sigh of relief come November. @mymango A facepalm from you = 10 likes from others. My work here is done. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajlposh 549 Posted August 14 I bet you all wish there was a Donald Trump thread 1 3 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 278 Posted August 14 1 hour ago, En Passant said: The original was posted underneath the quote "If Trump wins". Thus 50.1% would be a prerequisite in that instance (electoral college variation notwithstanding). Hopefully, as you say, in reality it's less than that percentage and the world can afford a huge sigh of relief come November. @mymango A facepalm from you = 10 likes from others. My work here is done. You don't need to win the popular vote to win the election, you only need to win the electoral college. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoffinCodger 13 Posted August 16 On 14/08/2024 at 21:18, Tango854 said: You don't need to win the popular vote to win the election, you only need to win the electoral college. You also won’t get 100% of Americans voting, so it’s a non starter anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,533 Posted August 16 On 14/08/2024 at 15:18, Tango854 said: You don't need to win the popular vote to win the election, you only need to win the electoral college. That's true. Trump lost the popular vote but won the electoral college by the narrowest or margins in the States that mattered. Hopefully people won't stay home in November. Many were convinced Hilary would win in 2016 so they didn't bother voting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odeon 97 Posted August 17 On 14/08/2024 at 20:43, En Passant said: It's because 50.1%(+) of Americans had successful Brain Removal Surgery. The opponents are all dumb and the allies are smart, crazy how easy it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted August 17 On 14/08/2024 at 21:18, Tango854 said: You don't need to win the popular vote to win the election, you only need to win the electoral college. Yeah, it's much the same here in reality, the popular vote doesn't actually win it. Just ours is 650 political constituencies with 1 mp for each rather than your allocated numbers of votes per state. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,116 Posted August 18 7 hours ago, En Passant said: Yeah, it's much the same here in reality, the popular vote doesn't actually win it. Just ours is 650 political constituencies with 1 mp for each rather than your allocated numbers of votes per state. Same here in France. Indeed, in the last legislative elections, Rassemblement National won the popular vote, but came only third for the number of MP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frleon 138 Posted August 18 Here in Germany (mixed-member proportional voting), no matter how much I’d complain about politics of the day, I’m pretty happy with the voting system at least. The relation between what government people would like and what they get is pretty small and when the government’s problematic it’s because enough people voted them in, not because someone gamed the system. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites