Formula 1 & Other Motor Racing

[maryportfuncity 10,687]

Kubica, bar a little gingerly steps today, is fine.

 

As one more likely to know than the rest of us;

 

i - how well do you think he'll be sleeping once the concussion wears off?

 

ii - Do accidents like that make the likes of him more cautious?

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

As one more likely to know than the rest of us;

 

i - how well do you think he'll be sleeping once the concussion wears off?

 

ii - Do accidents like that make the likes of him more cautious?

 

F1 drivers are not normal human beings like you & me, but

 

i - he'll be fine by the end of the week.

 

ii - Hard to say - each driver is different. I suspect so, yes. It certainly woke Jarno Trulli up, judging by his comments, and waking up Jarno Trulli to do anything is some achievement!

[maryportfuncity 10,687]

Kubica says he feels up to it next weekend.

 

Obviously, without the no claims bonus from now on.

[M.Lawrenson 11]

Just a small note to say that since Kubica's accident, the hit counter on my Roger Williamson page has been spinning like a flying BMW, with a lot of visitors from Poland. Sadly, I don't have Google Ads. That would be just tasteless. Well, even more tasteless than it already is.

[maryportfuncity 10,687]

Just a small note to say that since Kubica's accident, the hit counter on my Roger Williamson page has been spinning like a flying BMW, with a lot of visitors from Poland. Sadly, I don't have Google Ads. That would be just tasteless. Well, even more tasteless than it already is.

 

 

Bit hard on yerself there Lawro. There's grislier stuff on You Tube calling itself a tribute.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

Kubica out, Vettel in

 

 

So a 19 year old youngster in his first race at the fearsome Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Many, including BMW, rate him highly. We shall see how he gets on. A 19 year old... gawd I feel old, most of my heroes are in their mid 50's...

[M.Lawrenson 11]

Kubica out, Vettel in

 

 

So a 19 year old youngster in his first race at the fearsome Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Many, including BMW, rate him highly. We shall see how he gets on. A 19 year old... gawd I feel old, most of my heroes are in their mid 50's...

 

Vettel is indeed 'highly rated', like so many who have been in Red Bull's young driver program. Most of whom seem to have completely vanished. Where did Neel Jani go? Anyway, who am I to dismiss such a worthy talent system when RBs F1 team has a couple of vibrant, speedy youngsters driving for them. I wish Vettel all the best for the next few days, but Indy is not the best place for a debutant. It's surprised more than a few. Just ask Michelin.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

4 die, 15 injured in US drag racing accident

[maryportfuncity 10,687]

We don't discuss drag racing very often. Made international headlines this weekend though. The driver isn't among the dead. Though the toll has risen since the post above.

[Guest Guest]

I wager that Lewis Hamilton is on Fernando Alonso's personal death list right now....

[maryportfuncity 10,687]

I wager that Lewis Hamilton is on Fernando Alonso's personal death list right now....

 

 

Yeah, but to kill him, he'll have to catch him

[anthonyd46 6]

Whilst we're talking about Watkins Glen; there's the fatal accident to

to consider. In a NASCAR race in the nineties. One that led to a revision of safety at an already troubled track.

 

There are longer you tubes available, adding footage of the emergency vehicles and the rest. If you're that way inclined, like.

 

live race broadcast of this, it was kinda weird watching it seeing the annoucers reactions etc

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

Ernesto Viso, a GP2 (next step down from F1) driver is VERY lucky to still be alive after a crash today. I'll post a video link to it soon unless someone beats me to it.

 

Basically he crashed through a hoarding & nearly hit a bridge, yet escaped with a bruised arm & a bit of concussion.

 

Written description link

[harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,709]

Since mpfc hasn't posted any crash vids for, ooh, at least a couple of weeks, I thought I'd step into the breach and do the honours. With the added bonus that, according to the clip's creator at least, no-one snuffs it. Quite how, in the particular case of Mr Bodine, I have no idea.

 

Of course, you could always turn the picture off and listen to the backing track instead.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

Viso crash here as promised. How the chap is not more seriously hurt, I do not know...

 

Note - the above is the crash slowed down - this is the crash as it happened in real speed Quicker than the Marshals

[M.Lawrenson 11]

Viso crash here as promised. How the chap is not more seriously hurt, I do not know...

 

Note - the above is the crash slowed down - this is the crash as it happened in real speed Quicker than the Marshals

 

It certainly looked spectacular, but nothing 'vital' on the car was damaged - survival cell ended up completely intact.

 

If Viso's head had hit the concrete wall while he was flipping, it would have been different. I think the marshals were far more at risk than the driver. Just what was the move Viso was pulling there, anyway? I can't see if anyone punted him from that angle. Probably got too close and his front wheel touched the car in front's back wheel. A hazard of open-wheel racing, I guess.

[Guest Guest]

Since mpfc hasn't posted any crash vids for, ooh, at least a couple of weeks, I thought I'd step into the breach and do the honours. With the added bonus that, according to the clip's creator at least, no-one snuffs it. Quite how, in the particular case of Mr Bodine, I have no idea.

 

Of course, you could always turn the picture off and listen to the backing track instead.

Ouch!! I agree, no.1 definitely should've been fatal, according to wiki "Geoff broke his right wrist, right cheekbone, a vertebrae in his back, his right ankle, and also suffered a concussion. Nine fans were also injured in the accident." (Watched it again, shaking head in disbelief)

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

Just what was the move Viso was pulling there, anyway? I can't see if anyone punted him from that angle. Probably got too close and his front wheel touched the car in front's back wheel. A hazard of open-wheel racing, I guess.

 

According to Michael Ammermuller, the "launchpad" for Viso's crash, he and the drivers in front of him had slowed down as they saw the SC board & yellow flags for the safety cars. Viso had not, and was unsighted, and was going at normal race speed, whilst Ammermuller was slowing down for the pace car. Viso hit the back of his car at tremendous speed... and well, you know the rest...

[Lard Bazaar 3,803]

I raised a question to Mr LB during today's race, and wonder can anyone tell us if there has ever been an instance of a collision between a competitor and the safety car during an F1 race? This of course came to mind during the rainy bit when one of the drivers (one of the Japs?) spun off, narrowly missing the safety car and then landing next to a tractor.

[maryportfuncity 10,687]

Can't remember it ever happening in F1, it has doubtless happened somewhere like karting and I'm guessing OoO will be able to say when and where.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

I raised a question to Mr LB during today's race, and wonder can anyone tell us if there has ever been an instance of a collision between a competitor and the safety car during an F1 race? This of course came to mind during the rainy bit when one of the drivers (one of the Japs?) spun off, narrowly missing the safety car and then landing next to a tractor.

 

It was an Italian actually, Liuzzi.

 

Good stuff first of all. Markus Winkelhock in the dog slow Spyker leading 6 laps on his debut - doing more in his first race than Stefan Johansson ever did in years of racing.

 

Finally, a fight for the lead on the track. And nearly a fight on the podium.

 

Jenson Button scampering like a frightened rabbit from his car whilst Lewis Hamilton sat patiently waiting to get back on track. (And then people wonder why Button is becoming forgotten quickly.)

 

And a driver & a safety car? Well... sort of. Happened to the same driver - not once.. but twice.

 

Step forward Taki Inoue.

 

 

And being towed back after Bernd Maylander, the safety car driver, crashed into Inoue during practice..

 

Also, Prof. Sid Watkins, the medical guru for so many years, said that, in the early days of racing, things were a little fraught & Derek Daly had to go off the road once to avoid the medical car which was pootering along after an incident...

[Lard Bazaar 3,803]

I raised a question to Mr LB during today's race, and wonder can anyone tell us if there has ever been an instance of a collision between a competitor and the safety car during an F1 race? This of course came to mind during the rainy bit when one of the drivers (one of the Japs?) spun off, narrowly missing the safety car and then landing next to a tractor.

 

It was an Italian actually, Liuzzi.

 

Good stuff first of all. Markus Winkelhock in the dog slow Spyker leading 6 laps on his debut - doing more in his first race than Stefan Johansson ever did in years of racing.

 

Finally, a fight for the lead on the track. And nearly a fight on the podium.

 

Jenson Button scampering like a frightened rabbit from his car whilst Lewis Hamilton sat patiently waiting to get back on track. (And then people wonder why Button is becoming forgotten quickly.)

 

And a driver & a safety car? Well... sort of. Happened to the same driver - not once.. but twice.

 

Step forward Taki Inoue.

 

 

And being towed back after Bernd Maylander, the safety car driver, crashed into Inoue during practice..

 

Also, Prof. Sid Watkins, the medical guru for so many years, said that, in the early days of racing, things were a little fraught & Derek Daly had to go off the road once to avoid the medical car which was pootering along after an incident...

 

I knew someone would come up with something! Thanks for that. Don't know why I thought it was a Japanese driver.

[maryportfuncity 10,687]

S'cuse me for posting a video link that's in good taste but.......

dedicates his World Superbikes win to the recently deceased Ollie Bridewell.

[Cowboy Ronnie 78]

The very neutral sounding World Motorsport Council have decided there was insufficient evidence that current constructors' championship points leaders McLaren gained an advantage against their foes, despite the fact their chief engineer was caught with a "how to make a Ferrari" guide in his bedroom. So, new hero Lewis Hamilton and yesterday's paper Fernando Alonso remain 1st and 2nd in the individual title chase.

 

and...they're let off

[M.Lawrenson 11]

This being the same body that had Tyrrell thrown out of the 1984 Championship for having lead shot ballast in their cars and a dubious 'level of aromatic hydrocarbons' test in their water tanks. They were certainly not removed because they were the only team holding out against a rule change (remind me OOO, something to do with fuel tanks running Cosworth DFVs while everyone had gone Turbo I think) that required a unanimous vote. Uncle Ken Tyrrell never forgave them, and neither did Martin Brundle, who was deprived of a best-ever 2nd place finish (see if he doesn't at least mention that at the next race).

 

Anyway, McLaren may very well have done something shady, but there was insufficient proof that anyone but the engineer in question did anything wrong. So it was unlikely there would have been any other verdict.