Nazi of SS

[maryportfuncity 10,655]

Following Katriuk's death, thought I'd move Predictor's list over here and update:

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Josef Scheungraber (1918- )

Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Walter Schuck (1920-2015)

Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )

Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)

Sören Kam (1921-2015)

Charles Zentai (1921- )

Gerhard Sommer (1921- )

Herta Bothe (1921- )

Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)

Otto Carius (1922-2015)

Joachim Boosfeld (1922- )

Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

 

4 this year already.

 

Update: Gerhard Sommer declared unfit for trial. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32924225

 

 

Hardegen's safe until 2016, I know that because I've got him picked on a dead pool.

[Davey Jones' Locker 1,324]

 

Following Katriuk's death, thought I'd move Predictor's list over here and update:

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Josef Scheungraber (1918- )

Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Walter Schuck (1920-2015)

Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )

Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)

Sören Kam (1921-2015)

Charles Zentai (1921- )

Gerhard Sommer (1921- )

Herta Bothe (1921- )

Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)

Otto Carius (1922-2015)

Joachim Boosfeld (1922- )

Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

 

4 this year already.

 

Update: Gerhard Sommer declared unfit for trial. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32924225

 

 

Hardegen's safe until 2016, I know that because I've got him picked on a dead pool.

 

i was reading an article the other day about how many current-day Germans influential in the military and politics are the sons of high-ranking Nazis.

[mijkediablo 79]

 

 

Following Katriuk's death, thought I'd move Predictor's list over here and update:

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Josef Scheungraber (1918- )

Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Walter Schuck (1920-2015)

Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )

Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)

Sören Kam (1921-2015)

Charles Zentai (1921- )

Gerhard Sommer (1921- )

Herta Bothe (1921- )

Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)

Otto Carius (1922-2015)

Joachim Boosfeld (1922- )

Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

 

4 this year already.

 

Update: Gerhard Sommer declared unfit for trial. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32924225

 

 

Hardegen's safe until 2016, I know that because I've got him picked on a dead pool.

 

i was reading an article the other day about how many current-day Germans influential in the military and politics are the sons of high-ranking Nazis.

 

Disturbing but not surprising- nepotism and top-level politics go hand in hand.

[YoungWillz 21,062]

List Updated:

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Hans Sommer (1914- )

Günther Schwägermann (1915- )

Fritz Jauss (1917- )
Josef Scheungraber (1918- )

Michael Karkoc (1919- )
Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Ernst Pistor (1920- )
Walter Schuck (1920-2015)
Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Oskar Gröning (1921- )
Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )
Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)
Sören Kam (1921-2015)
Charles Zentai (1921- )
Gerhard Sommer (1921- )
Herta Bothe (1921- )

Siert Bruins (1921- )

Reinhold Hanning (1922- )

Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)
Otto Carius (1922-2015)
Joachim Boosfeld (1922- )

Johann Robert Riss (1923- )

Alfred Stoerk (Stark/Stork) (1923- )
Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

Helmuth Leif Rasmussen or Rasboel (1924- )

Theodor Szehinskyj (1924- )

[The Mad Hatter 1,092]

List Updated:

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Hans Sommer (1914- )

Günther Schwägermann (1915- )

Fritz Jauss (1917- )

Josef Scheungraber (1918- )

Michael Karkoc (1919- )

Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Ernst Pistor (1920- )Walter Schuck (1920-2015)

Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Oskar Gröning (1921- )

Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)

Sören Kam (1921-2015)

Charles Zentai (1921- )

Gerhard Sommer (1921- )

Herta Bothe (1921- )

Siert Bruins (1921- )Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)

Otto Carius (1922-2015)

Joachim Boosfeld (1922- )

Johann Robert Riss (1923- )

Alfred Stoerk (Stark/Stork) (1923- )

Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

Theodor Szehinskyj (1924- )

I hope Oscar groning surrives to next year so I can put him on my team then that basterd can die all he wants

[guylevesque 18]

 

 

The trial of Oskar Groening, an accountant at Auschwitz begins:

 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ss-accountant-of-auschwitz-going-on-trial-in-germany-2015-4

 

Aged 93, he is part of an 11th-hour effort to convict lower-ranked personnel for being "cogs in the machine". It's a legal consequence of the John Demanjuk trial who was convicted of his involvement in the Holocaust and appealed the verdict, only to die before it could be heard.

Today's day in court was cancelled because of the "bad state of health" of Mr. Groening:

 

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/prozesstag-im-auschwitz-verfahren-vorzeitig-beendet-oskar-groening-in-schlechtem-gesundheitszustand/11737296.html(link in german, but I bet english articles will appear, since the trial has received a fair bit of attention abroad.)

 

Judges are considering their verdict: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152324/Prosecutors-demand-3-year-prison-sentence-bookkeeper-Auschwitz-Oskar-Groening-trial-death-300-000-Jews-judges-consider-verdict.html

 

Verdict has fallen: sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33533264

[maryportfuncity 10,655]

 

 

 

The trial of Oskar Groening, an accountant at Auschwitz begins:

 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ss-accountant-of-auschwitz-going-on-trial-in-germany-2015-4

 

Aged 93, he is part of an 11th-hour effort to convict lower-ranked personnel for being "cogs in the machine". It's a legal consequence of the John Demanjuk trial who was convicted of his involvement in the Holocaust and appealed the verdict, only to die before it could be heard.

Today's day in court was cancelled because of the "bad state of health" of Mr. Groening:

 

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/prozesstag-im-auschwitz-verfahren-vorzeitig-beendet-oskar-groening-in-schlechtem-gesundheitszustand/11737296.html(link in german, but I bet english articles will appear, since the trial has received a fair bit of attention abroad.)

 

Judges are considering their verdict: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152324/Prosecutors-demand-3-year-prison-sentence-bookkeeper-Auschwitz-Oskar-Groening-trial-death-300-000-Jews-judges-consider-verdict.html

 

Verdict has fallen: sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33533264

 

 

 

So, most major news agencies will report his death in jail automatically and he's old and frail. Low DDP points, granted, but HPDP and Deathrace gold, maybe.

[gcreptile 10,979]

 

 

 

 

The trial of Oskar Groening, an accountant at Auschwitz begins:

 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ss-accountant-of-auschwitz-going-on-trial-in-germany-2015-4

 

Aged 93, he is part of an 11th-hour effort to convict lower-ranked personnel for being "cogs in the machine". It's a legal consequence of the John Demanjuk trial who was convicted of his involvement in the Holocaust and appealed the verdict, only to die before it could be heard.

Today's day in court was cancelled because of the "bad state of health" of Mr. Groening:

 

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/prozesstag-im-auschwitz-verfahren-vorzeitig-beendet-oskar-groening-in-schlechtem-gesundheitszustand/11737296.html(link in german, but I bet english articles will appear, since the trial has received a fair bit of attention abroad.)

 

Judges are considering their verdict: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152324/Prosecutors-demand-3-year-prison-sentence-bookkeeper-Auschwitz-Oskar-Groening-trial-death-300-000-Jews-judges-consider-verdict.html

 

Verdict has fallen: sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33533264

 

 

 

So, most major news agencies will report his death in jail automatically and he's old and frail. Low DDP points, granted, but HPDP and Deathrace gold, maybe.

 

German reports on the case often had a subtle desire to see the man falling apart from guilt, noticing when he cried, admitting guilt and so on... I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he died rather quickly.

[Sean 6,335]

 

 

 

 

The trial of Oskar Groening, an accountant at Auschwitz begins:

 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ss-accountant-of-auschwitz-going-on-trial-in-germany-2015-4

 

Aged 93, he is part of an 11th-hour effort to convict lower-ranked personnel for being "cogs in the machine". It's a legal consequence of the John Demanjuk trial who was convicted of his involvement in the Holocaust and appealed the verdict, only to die before it could be heard.

Today's day in court was cancelled because of the "bad state of health" of Mr. Groening:

 

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/prozesstag-im-auschwitz-verfahren-vorzeitig-beendet-oskar-groening-in-schlechtem-gesundheitszustand/11737296.html(link in german, but I bet english articles will appear, since the trial has received a fair bit of attention abroad.)

 

Judges are considering their verdict: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152324/Prosecutors-demand-3-year-prison-sentence-bookkeeper-Auschwitz-Oskar-Groening-trial-death-300-000-Jews-judges-consider-verdict.html

 

Verdict has fallen: sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33533264

 

 

 

So, most major news agencies will report his death in jail automatically and he's old and frail. Low DDP points, granted, but HPDP and Deathrace gold, maybe.

 

Isn`t he infamous enough for the Death List?I would have thought his demise will be covered as much as Priebke`s or Demjanjuk`s?

[Phantom 2,534]

 

 

 

 

 

The trial of Oskar Groening, an accountant at Auschwitz begins:

 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ss-accountant-of-auschwitz-going-on-trial-in-germany-2015-4

 

Aged 93, he is part of an 11th-hour effort to convict lower-ranked personnel for being "cogs in the machine". It's a legal consequence of the John Demanjuk trial who was convicted of his involvement in the Holocaust and appealed the verdict, only to die before it could be heard.

Today's day in court was cancelled because of the "bad state of health" of Mr. Groening:

 

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/prozesstag-im-auschwitz-verfahren-vorzeitig-beendet-oskar-groening-in-schlechtem-gesundheitszustand/11737296.html(link in german, but I bet english articles will appear, since the trial has received a fair bit of attention abroad.)

 

Judges are considering their verdict: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152324/Prosecutors-demand-3-year-prison-sentence-bookkeeper-Auschwitz-Oskar-Groening-trial-death-300-000-Jews-judges-consider-verdict.html

 

Verdict has fallen: sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33533264

 

 

 

So, most major news agencies will report his death in jail automatically and he's old and frail. Low DDP points, granted, but HPDP and Deathrace gold, maybe.

 

Isn`t he infamous enough for the Death List?I would have thought his demise will be covered as much as Priebke`s or Demjanjuk`s?

 

 

He's infamous enough. Surely it depends on your level of fame or infamy. He's sure to get a UK obit which I believe is all that qualifies.

[GossipGabe 333]

 

 

 

 

The trial of Oskar Groening, an accountant at Auschwitz begins:

 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ss-accountant-of-auschwitz-going-on-trial-in-germany-2015-4

 

Aged 93, he is part of an 11th-hour effort to convict lower-ranked personnel for being "cogs in the machine". It's a legal consequence of the John Demanjuk trial who was convicted of his involvement in the Holocaust and appealed the verdict, only to die before it could be heard.

 

Today's day in court was cancelled because of the "bad state of health" of Mr. Groening:

 

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/prozesstag-im-auschwitz-verfahren-vorzeitig-beendet-oskar-groening-in-schlechtem-gesundheitszustand/11737296.html(link in german, but I bet english articles will appear, since the trial has received a fair bit of attention abroad.)

Judges are considering their verdict: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152324/Prosecutors-demand-3-year-prison-sentence-bookkeeper-Auschwitz-Oskar-Groening-trial-death-300-000-Jews-judges-consider-verdict.html

Verdict has fallen: sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33533264

 

So, most major news agencies will report his death in jail automatically and he's old and frail. Low DDP points, granted, but HPDP and Deathrace gold, maybe.

Despite the verdict, he might not spend his final months in jail.

 

Both sides have a week to appeal, and both prosecutors and the defense said they would consider whether to do so. Defense lawyer Hans Holtermann said Groening remains free in the meantime, and given his age and the possible length of appeal proceedings it was uncertain whether he would actually go to prison.

He can either appeal the ruling or he might be deemed unfit to go to jail due to his age and general state of health.

[Toast 16,151]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The trial of Oskar Groening, an accountant at Auschwitz begins:

 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ss-accountant-of-auschwitz-going-on-trial-in-germany-2015-4

 

Aged 93, he is part of an 11th-hour effort to convict lower-ranked personnel for being "cogs in the machine". It's a legal consequence of the John Demanjuk trial who was convicted of his involvement in the Holocaust and appealed the verdict, only to die before it could be heard.

Today's day in court was cancelled because of the "bad state of health" of Mr. Groening:

 

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/prozesstag-im-auschwitz-verfahren-vorzeitig-beendet-oskar-groening-in-schlechtem-gesundheitszustand/11737296.html(link in german, but I bet english articles will appear, since the trial has received a fair bit of attention abroad.)

 

Judges are considering their verdict: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3152324/Prosecutors-demand-3-year-prison-sentence-bookkeeper-Auschwitz-Oskar-Groening-trial-death-300-000-Jews-judges-consider-verdict.html

 

Verdict has fallen: sentenced to 4 years in prison http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33533264

 

 

 

So, most major news agencies will report his death in jail automatically and he's old and frail. Low DDP points, granted, but HPDP and Deathrace gold, maybe.

 

Isn`t he infamous enough for the Death List?I would have thought his demise will be covered as much as Priebke`s or Demjanjuk`s?

 

 

He's infamous enough. Surely it depends on your level of fame or infamy. He's sure to get a UK obit which I believe is all that qualifies.

 

 

I don't believe there are any obit rules for the Death List.

[GossipGabe 333]

 

{(Some quotes snipped for brevity)}

 

He's infamous enough. Surely it depends on your level of fame or infamy. He's sure to get a UK obit which I believe is all that qualifies.

 

I don't believe there are any obit rules for the Death List.

Well, there are no obit rules in the sense that not getting an obit would disqualify a hit.

 

On the other hand, one of the few DL rules state that "Candidates must be famous enough such that their death is expected to be reported by the UK media" and the usual interpretation is that borderline cases are best left out (except for Fergie Frederiksen, ofc.).

Edited July 15, 2015 by GossipGabe

[maryportfuncity 10,655]

 

 

{(Some quotes snipped for brevity)}

 

He's infamous enough. Surely it depends on your level of fame or infamy. He's sure to get a UK obit which I believe is all that qualifies.

I don't believe there are any obit rules for the Death List.

Well, there are no obit rules in the sense that not getting an obit would disqualify a hit.

 

On the other hand, one of the few DL rules state that "Candidates must be famous enough such that their death is expected to be reported by the UK media" and the usual interpretation is that borderline cases are best left out (except for Fergie Frederiksen, ofc.).

 

 

 

Aye, old Oskar would be a toughie because, on the one hand, the few remaining convicted Nazis are a dwindling resource and we'd have a grim satisfaction in the final dregs of this evil dying out, on the other hand, he was the fucking book keeper!

 

Every night I go to sleep content that I'm spared the mind-numbing responsibility of the 24/7 job faced by the DL selectors.

[Bibliogryphon 9,588]

 

 

 

{(Some quotes snipped for brevity)}

 

He's infamous enough. Surely it depends on your level of fame or infamy. He's sure to get a UK obit which I believe is all that qualifies.

I don't believe there are any obit rules for the Death List.

Well, there are no obit rules in the sense that not getting an obit would disqualify a hit.

 

On the other hand, one of the few DL rules state that "Candidates must be famous enough such that their death is expected to be reported by the UK media" and the usual interpretation is that borderline cases are best left out (except for Fergie Frederiksen, ofc.).

 

 

 

Aye, old Oskar would be a toughie because, on the one hand, the few remaining convicted Nazis are a dwindling resource and we'd have a grim satisfaction in the final dregs of this evil dying out, on the other hand, he was the fucking book keeper!

 

Every night I go to sleep content that I'm spared the mind-numbing responsibility of the 24/7 job faced by the DL selectors.

 

 

 

I think that a convicted prisoner of war crimes would be worthy of considerable news discussion. Even if he is not on the main list I think a fair number of DDP teams will take a punt on him. I would rather this than 'couragous' cancer stricken bloggers.

[gcreptile 10,979]

Not sure if the translation is correct in the legal sense, but some of the joint plaintiffs aren't satisfied with the verdict and demand more:

 

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/auschwitz-prozess-revision-gegen-groening-urteil-a-1044119.html(link in german)

 

Also, Mr. Groening will have to pay the costs of the trail which amount to "several hundreds of thousands of Euros":

 

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/Groening-muss-vermutlich-Hunderttausende-zahlen,auschwitz452.html(link in german)

 

Honestly, he might just decide to end it all right now...

[Body Snatcher 44 107]

Not sure if the translation is correct in the legal sense, but some of the joint plaintiffs aren't satisfied with the verdict and demand more:

 

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/auschwitz-prozess-revision-gegen-groening-urteil-a-1044119.html(link in german)

 

Also, Mr. Groening will have to pay the costs of the trail which amount to "several hundreds of thousands of Euros":

 

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/Groening-muss-vermutlich-Hunderttausende-zahlen,auschwitz452.html(link in german)

 

Honestly, he might just decide to end it all right now...

 

On reading this I had to take a moment to let the irony wash over me.

[maryportfuncity 10,655]

 

Not sure if the translation is correct in the legal sense, but some of the joint plaintiffs aren't satisfied with the verdict and demand more:

 

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/auschwitz-prozess-revision-gegen-groening-urteil-a-1044119.html(link in german)

 

Also, Mr. Groening will have to pay the costs of the trail which amount to "several hundreds of thousands of Euros":

 

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/Groening-muss-vermutlich-Hunderttausende-zahlen,auschwitz452.html(link in german)

 

Honestly, he might just decide to end it all right now...

 

On reading this I had to take a moment to let the irony wash over me.

 

 

 

Do we know if he has a gas oven?

[YoungWillz 21,062]

Unnamed 90 year old Dane being pursued in possible case. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3168473/Nazi-hunter-wants-Dane-investigated-crimes-World-War-Two-camp.html

[deadsox 894]

Unnamed 90 year old Dane being pursued in possible case. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3168473/Nazi-hunter-wants-Dane-investigated-crimes-World-War-Two-camp.html

 

One of the most non-specific stories I've ever seen. Someone thinks somebody may have done something. I'm surprised they even went as far as to brand the suspect a Dane.

[time 8,618]

 

Unnamed 90 year old Dane being pursued in possible case. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3168473/Nazi-hunter-wants-Dane-investigated-crimes-World-War-Two-camp.html

 

One of the most non-specific stories I've ever seen. Someone thinks somebody may have done something. I'm surprised they even went as far as to brand the suspect a Dane.

 

Helmuth Leif Rasmussen, aka Rasboel, should you wish to keep track.

[Phantom 2,534]

Trial of Michael Karkoc will not be going ahead as he is unfit to stand trial.

[Davey Jones' Locker 1,324]

Unnamed 91 year old Nazi woman going on trial next year for being an accomplice at Auschwitz: http://www.dw.com/en/91-year-old-woman-charged-with-complicity-to-murder-in-auschwitz/a-18728698

[maryportfuncity 10,655]

Ah, the emporium of free musical delights that is Mr Weird and Wacky

 

today's treat is some slammin' Nazi sounds on mp3: http://mrweirdandwacky.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/military-music-of-adolf-hitlers-third.html

 

 

 

[Davey Jones' Locker 1,324]

Goebbels" secretary, Brunhilde Pomsel, is still going at 104. Interview here: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/04/22/secretary-pomsel-recalls-nazi-joseph-goebbels/26066809/