dead Maggie Smith

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4 minutes ago, msc said:

Jean Marsh isn't a Dame either, allegedly at her own refusal. We could add Claire Bloom and Joan Plowright next year as a running theme of people Laurence Olivier shagged. 

There's a point. How many acting Dames are there? 15? 20?

Can't be that many.

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5 minutes ago, msc said:

Jean Marsh isn't a Dame either, allegedly at her own refusal. We could add Claire Bloom and Joan Plowright next year as a running theme of people Laurence Olivier shagged. 

 

Please be more respectful

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7 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

There's a point. How many acting Dames are there? 15? 20?
Can't be that many.

 

Emma Thompson

Julie Andrews

Penelope Wilton

Helen Mirren

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Just now, Toast said:

 

Emma Thompson

Julie Andrews

Penelope Wilton

 

Imelda Staunton too

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2 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Emma Thompson

Julie Andrews

Penelope Wilton

The one I’m seeing in panto this Christmas…

 

Dame Maureen Lipman

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Joanna Lumley

Kristin Scott Thomas

Virginia McKenna

 

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11 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

There's a point. How many acting Dames are there? 15? 20?

Can't be that many.

 

Patricia Routledge

Joan Plowright

Virginia McKenna

Sian Phillips

Sheila Hancock

Joan Collins

Judi Dench

Eileen Atknis

Julie Andrews

Vannesa Redgrave

Janet Suzman

Penelope Keith

Penelope Wilton

Joanna Lumley

Twiggy

Harriet Walter

Emma Thompson

Julie Walters

Imelda Staunton

Kristin Scott Thomas

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7 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

There's a point. How many acting Dames are there? 15? 20?

Can't be that many.

 

1 minute ago, Toast said:

 

Emma Thompson

Julie Andrews

Penelope Wilton

 

1 minute ago, Gisooo said:

 

Imelda Staunton too

Wikipedia lists 60 'acting Dames', 25 of whom are still alive (plus Angelina Jolie) by my reckoning. This includes Floella Benjamin and Kiri te Kanawa, who you wouldn't necessarily call actors/actresses.

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Very sad that Charlotte Rampling, Brenda Blethyn and Julie Christie are not dames

 

Leslie Manville could be a future name, with Olivia Colman and Helena Bonham Carter I guess

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I'm surprised Colman isn't. She's in bloody everything.

I can't stand her, there's something about her face that makes me want to punch it.    I really, really hated her as The Queen.

Of course we don't always know when an honour has been offered and declined.

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1 minute ago, Toast said:

I can't stand her, there's something about her face that makes me want to punch it.

Love Colman, her witiness and honesty are likable imo. Boham Carter and her should be made dame right ?

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Acting Dames
Dame Kate Harcourt DNZM b. 16 Jun 1927
Dame Patricia Routledge DBE b. 17 Feb 1929
Joan Plowright, Baroness Plowright DBE b. 28 Oct 1929
Dame Virginia McKenna DBE b. 7 Jun 1931
Dame Sheila Hancock DBE b. 22 Feb 1933
Dame Sian Phillips DBE b. 14 May 1933
Dame Joan Collins DBE b. 23 May 1933
Dame Eileen Atkins DBE b. 15 Jun 1934
Dame Judi Dench DBE b. 9 Dec 1934
Dame Julie Andrews DBE b. 1 Oct 1935
Dame Vanessa Redgrave DBE b. 30 Jan 1937
Dame Janet Suzman DBE b. 9 Feb 1939
Dame Penelope Keith DBE b. 2 Apr 1940
Dame Helen Mirren DBE b. 26 Jul 1945
Dame Joanna Lumley DBE b. 1 May 1946
Dame Maureen Lipman DBE b. 10 May 1946
Dame Penelope Wilton DBE b. 3 Jun 1946
Dame Julie Walters DBE b. 22 Feb 1950
Dame Harriet Walter DBE b. 24 Sep 1950
Dame Imelda Staunton DBE b. 9 Jan 1956
Dame Emma Thompson DBE b. 15 Apr 1959
Dame Kristin Scott Thomas DBE b. 24 May 1960

Plus the following 4 names are known primarily for something else but have done some acting:

Dame Kiri Te Kanawa DBE b. 6 Mar 1944 [opera singer]
Dame Twiggy DBE b. 19 Sep 1949 [model]
Floella Benjamin, Baroness Benjamin DBE b. 23 Sep 1949 [TV presenter]
Dame Miranda Harcourt DNZM b. 1962 [acting coach]

Honorary Dame
Angelina Jolie b. 4 Jun 1975

I make that 22 (26 if you include people of other professions who have done some acting). Plus Jolie, who I almost refuse to count as she's honorary, not a Commonwealth citizen, and got it because of charity work...

Deaths since 2008 (when I joined DL )
Dame Pat Evison DBE 1924–2010 (85)
Dame Elizabeth Taylor DBE 1932–2011 (79)
Dame June Whitfield DBE 1925–2018 (93)
Dame Vera Lynn DBE 1917–2020 (103, primarily a singer)
Dame Olivia de Havilland DBE 1916–2020 (104)
Dame Diana Rigg DBE 1938–2020 (82)
Dame Barbara Windsor DBE 1937–2020 (83)
Dame Olivia Newton-John DBE 1948–2022 (73)
Dame Angela Lansbury DBE 1925–2022 (96)
Dame Maggie Smith DBE 1934–2024 (89)

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6 minutes ago, Toast said:

I'm surprised Colman isn't. She's in bloody everything.

I can't stand her, there's something about her face that makes me want to punch it.    I really, really hated her as The Queen.

Of course we don't always know when an honour has been offered and declined.

 

I'm with you on the ubiquitous Colman. Her shtick gets on my tits.

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I almost forgot about Kate Harcourt, she is the grandmother of Thomasin McKenzie who played Elsa in JoJo Rabbit and in Eileen alongside Anne Hathaway

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25 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

Very sad that Charlotte Rampling, Brenda Blethyn and Julie Christie are not dames

 

Leslie Manville could be a future name, with Olivia Colman and Helena Bonham Carter I guess

My opinion on these –

Charlotte Rampling and Brenda Blethyn have existing honours, but have held them for years. Meaning that they could be in line to be a Dame, and would likely accept.

The fact that Julie Christie has NO honours at all suggests to me she has refused them.

Leslie Manville and Olivia Colman received honours within the last 5 years so they will probably have to wait at least another 5 before being promoted to a Damehood.

Helena Bonham Carter was made a CBE in 2013, so could be a very good candidate to become a Dame in the New Years Honours list in a few months time.

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Felicty Kendall, Julia McKenzie,  Patricia Hodge, Zoe Wanamaker, Lindsay Duncan, Celia Imrie, Juliet Stevenson and Elaine Paige maybe actresses who could get one in time, Maybe an honorary one to Fiona Shaw, 

 

Petula Clark and Prunella Scales have CBE’s but might be too old to be promoted now. 

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1 minute ago, Ulitzer95 said:

My opinion on these –

Charlotte Rampling and Brenda Blethyn have existing honours, but have held them for years. Meaning that they could be in line to be a Dame, and would likely accept.

The fact that Julie Christie has NO honours at all suggests to me she has refused them.

Leslie Manville and Olivia Colman received honours within the last 5 years so they will probably have to wait at least another 5 before being promoted to a Damehood.

Helena Bonham Carter was made a CBE in 2013, so could be a very good candidate to become a Dame in the New Years Honours list in a few months time.

Gemma Jones also has no honours so might be another one who has turned them down.

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Rosemary Harris and Phyllida Law?

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1 minute ago, Gisooo said:

Rosemary Harris and Phyllida Law?

Hmmmm.... I think I read somewhere that Rosemary Harris turned down an honour. Either way, she's barely mentioned in the UK as she hasn't lived here for years. She moved to the States in the 1960s, and seldom appears in anything we make here. Dame Angela Lansbury moved to the States young also but frequently came back and appeared in British TV, film and in West End productions.

Phyllida Law isn't very active anymore – hardly any credits in the last decade. She got an OBE in 2013. At a push she'll get a CBE.

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Celia Imrie, Elaine Page, Felicity Kendall all feel like future Dames.

 

Prunella Scales is one below and my gut feeling is if she gets one it'll be a deathbed one.

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11 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Petula Clark and Prunella Scales have CBE’s but might be too old to be promoted now. 

 

Olivia de Havilland got her Damehood when she was almost 101.

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Wendy Craig, Fionnula Flanagan, Brenda Fricker, Miriam Margolyes, Tilda Switon, Miranda Richardson, Catherine Zeta-Jones (I'm kidding, at least she has a CBE)

 

Did Glenda Jackson refused her damehood?

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1 minute ago, Gisooo said:

Wendy Craig, Fionnula Flanagan, Brenda Fricker, Miriam Margolyes, Tilda Switon, Catherine Zeta-Jones (I'm kidding, at least she has a CBE)

 

Did Glenda Jackson refused her damehood?

I think we’ve established by now that Brenda Fricker doesn’t exist. It’s just Piers Morgan in a wig. Even Piers’ son tweeted something along those lines, so must be true. 
 

I doubt Glenda Jackson turned down a damehood. She had a CBE. She stepped out of acting for years to become a politician. If she hadn’t done that I think she would have become a Dame.

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3 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

I think we’ve established by now that Brenda Fricker doesn’t exist. It’s just Piers Morgan in a wig. Even Piers’ son tweeted something along those lines, so must be true. 
 

I doubt Glenda Jackson turned down a damehood. She had a CBE. She stepped out of acting for years to become a politician. If she hadn’t done that I think she would have become a Dame.

She once said (After she and accepted her CBE) she would probably turn down any damehood offer, 

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7 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

I think we’ve established by now that Brenda Fricker doesn’t exist. It’s just Piers Morgan in a wig.

 

What about the old female voice?