Joey Russ 7,228 Posted October 28, 2016 Happy one day late birthday to president Hillary Clinton (I'm making a big assumption here). EDIT: Ooh. My 666 post. Maybe this is evidence that she's the devil 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted October 31, 2016 Happy one day late birthday to president Hillary Clinton (I'm making a big assumption here). EDIT: Ooh. My 666 post. Maybe this is evidence that she's the devil or it could have meant bad luck for her... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,228 Posted November 9, 2016 Now that Hillary has lost the election for president, the question is, what is she going to do now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,228 Posted November 9, 2016 Yes I can confirm after tonight that Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the USA. Let's just get it over with Oh how wrong you were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,330 Posted November 9, 2016 Now that Hillary has lost the election for president, the question is, what is she going to do now. Was wondering that earlier.My best guess would be that she disappears from public view for 6 months then releases a memoir before taking a big job outside of politics but one that keeps her firmly in the public eye.I cant see her just sitting home with the grandkids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJD123 26 Posted November 10, 2016 Bill Clinton to die in the next 3 or 4 years. He looks like a skeleton as it is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted November 10, 2016 Bill Clinton to die in the next 3 or 4 years. He looks like a skeleton as it is! He has his own thread. https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/1182-bill-clinton/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted November 10, 2016 Now that Hillary has lost the election for president, the question is, what is she going to do now. Was wondering that earlier.My best guess would be that she disappears from public view for 6 months then releases a memoir before taking a big job outside of politics but one that keeps her firmly in the public eye.I cant see her just sitting home with the grandkids. Yeah, my thoughts entirely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,228 Posted November 23, 2016 This is interesting. Will she actually demand a recount: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-challenge-election-results_us_5834e3a6e4b000af95ed3a34 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted November 23, 2016 No. There is a precedent for the loser of the Electoral College (and the popular vote!) winning the Presidency, but that was in 1824, when Clay voted in Quincy Adams over Jackson. For some reason, I can't see Paul Ryan doing the same! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted November 23, 2016 No. There is a precedent for the loser of the Electoral College (and the popular vote!) winning the Presidency, but that was in 1824, when Clay voted in Quincy Adams over Jackson. For some reason, I can't see Paul Ryan doing the same! Agreeing with that but... In this case it would probably be smart not to challenge because it's discrepancies in three states all of which she'd need. If she storms in now claiming that evidence she tips the whole mess over again and allows the most rabid Trump supporters to turn on her. Perhaps a better strategy for her party (though ironically one that failed when Al Gore "lost") would be to let president Trump struggle to rule a totally divided country, make elementary mistakes because of his arrogance and lack of experience in public office; and then make the evidence public. At which point the country is near enough obliged to get the electoral system under control and that happens when a Republican president is hopelessly unpopular, near enough ensuring the Democrat (anyone but Hillary) standing next time becomes president 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted November 23, 2016 A smart strategy would have been for the Democrats to actually campaign in Wisconsin, but the horse is out of the stable on that one now! They may try your theory out, but I am reminded that they tried it in 2000-04, and then ran John Kerry for the Presidency. That the 2004 election was so close, I can't decide if it shows up Bush or Kerry more... Seemingly in recent history, whenever the Democrats try to crown someone (Hilary, Gore), they lose. Whenever they run a shit candidate (Dukakis, Kerry), they lose. When they go with the flow and let some unheralded person build momentum in the primaries (Bill C, Obama, even Carter), they win. I'm going to guess the next Democratic US President will be someone most of us non-Americans haven't even heard of right now. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,536 Posted November 23, 2016 I'm going to guess the next Democratic US President will be someone most of us non-Americans haven't even heard of right now. Eric Garcetti is worth a cheeky tenner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted November 23, 2016 The person will probably be Tulsi Gabbard. If trump pulls back on all of his promises then his approval rating will be even lower than George bush jnr. People will want a hardcore progressive like her. If Bernie ran she would have been his vice president so if you like bernie you're going to like her. Basically my moneys on her. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted November 23, 2016 No. There is a precedent for the loser of the Electoral College (and the popular vote!) winning the Presidency, but that was in 1824, when Clay voted in Quincy Adams over Jackson. For some reason, I can't see Paul Ryan doing the same! And even then, the "winner" of the Electoral College had only won a plurality (and not the majority) of electoral votes, unlike Trump, who clearly won fair and square. It's not even as close as Gore's case was in Florida. By the way, in this situation, Ryan or the House of Representatives could not crown anyone since there'd be no contingent election. Since only Hillary or Trump won electoral votes, one of them would surely be declared a winner without Ryan's assistance (a 269:269 draw, while theoretically possible, would necessitate altered results in more than the three battleground states they talk about). When Hillary was the first to congratulate Trump I thought she would gracefully and quickly give it up, even if she won the popular vote, there's basically no chance that she'd win, even after a recount (which would then just waste the tax payers' money). Would you pay millions of dollars just so Hillary could sleep better ("rest assured") knowing that Donald Trump really did win the elections? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted November 23, 2016 The best tactic for the Democrats is to let Trump tear the Republican party apart. They can support him for two years on job creation for the white working class, take control of the Senate and then turn against him after that, in the run-up to the next election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted November 23, 2016 Democrats can't win the Senate in 2018 - they need a swing of 5 seat, and only 8 Republican seats are up for grabs then. Wyoming, Utah, Texas, Tennessee, Nevada, Nebraska, Mississippi and Arizona. That's not going to happen. Whereas, without looking into great detail, the Dems look in trouble in Ohio, West Virginia and Indiana, the seats which are up in 2018 they already hold. When you're in this position, you don't want a midterm where you own 24 of the 33 seats up for grabs. And if they do as badly as they tend to in mid-terms then, then we're looking at Republican control of the Senate till beyond 2020. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted November 23, 2016 It's a new world, anything is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted November 23, 2016 Yep, Zsa Zsa Gabor may even die one day. Sorry, I've taken the conversation into the sphere of pure fantasy... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted November 24, 2016 Growing support for a recount: http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/24/green-partys-jill-stein-raises-millions-for-election-recount/21613447/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted November 24, 2016 Growing support for a recount: http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/24/green-partys-jill-stein-raises-millions-for-election-recount/21613447/Amazing really what people will throw their money at. Hillary has accepted the result like Gore did. A lot of good the moral high ground did for him. Democrats need to play it better this time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,228 Posted November 25, 2016 Voting recount requested in Wisconsin: https://www.facebook.com/bbcnews/posts/10154134756582217 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,330 Posted May 30, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4545818/Hillary-Clinton-coughing-fit-graduation-speech.html :Had another coughing fit last week.Blamed "allergies". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
