AstroKat 526 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, En Passant said: Nor does anyone except Mr Doom and Gloom pessimist is my middle name. I dread to think what he's going to be like this afternoon. I expect a series of posts about why everything in the budget is bad news for everyone. I don't doubt that there will be bad news in the budget, because that's the way of things, but there is no need to spin it into the end of the world is nigh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted October 30 Doesn’t seem anything in the budget to cause a significant unexpected anger as they was nothing negative that was a surprise. . Tories and Lib Dem’s seem to think Inheritance Tas changes relating to family farms could be the main U turn at some point particularly as their saying the Environmental secretary tried to stop its inclusion. https://www.farmersguide.co.uk/business/politics/chancellor-announces-hammer-blow-reforms-to-agricultural-property-relief/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,639 Posted October 30 Just a guess, this thread went quiet the second the potential posters realised pub beer is going down in price! 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,740 Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: Just a guess, this thread went quiet the second the potential posters realised pub beer is going down in price! I have nosh ideas wot you aresh talking aboutsh? Mate I love you, always have. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 443 Posted October 31 19 hours ago, The Old Crem said: Doesn’t seem anything in the budget to cause a significant unexpected anger as they was nothing negative that was a surprise. . How disappointing that must have been for you. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,745 Posted October 31 Seems to have gone down relatively well, despite the doom mongering of the past month plus. Lots of talk about growth being sluggish until 2032 although the measures should start to bear fruit by then - good! This country needs to stop with the short-termism. We need long-term investment all over the place - in terms of people, time AND money. If Labour start delivering some of that, then it's a start. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, RoverAndOut said: Seems to have gone down relatively well, despite the doom mongering of the past month plus. Lots of talk about growth being sluggish until 2032 although the measures should start to bear fruit by then - good! This country needs to stop with the short-termism. We need long-term investment all over the place - in terms of people, time AND money. If Labour start delivering some of that, then it's a start. Election in 2029 so Labour will need to be seen by enough voters as having improved the country to win a majority again I suspect. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,129 Posted October 31 Thank you, Captain Obvious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,745 Posted October 31 5 hours ago, The Old Crem said: Election in 2029 so Labour will need to be seen by enough voters as having improved the country to win a majority again I suspect. . Why? The Tories made it progressively worse over 14 years and won 4 General elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 281 Posted October 31 FFS! Just block the wazzock! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 1 59 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Why? The Tories made it progressively worse over 14 years and won 4 General elections. But most of their voters didn’t see it as them doing so: It is not what is objectively true that counts but what 35% or so of voters think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 1 Jeremy Hunt and James Cleverly have both announced their will not serve on the Tory front bench under the new leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 1 https://www.independent.co.uk/business/ryanair-to-cut-uk-flights-by-10-as-boss-calls-budget-air-tax-rise-idiotic-b2639720.html Ryanair do this everytime they don’t like something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 2 Kemi Badenoch is the new Tory party leader. Will she become PM in 2029. I estimate she has about 30% chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,586 Posted November 2 5 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Kemi Badenoch is the new Tory party leader. Will she become PM in 2029. I estimate she has about 30% chance. I'd be surprised if she's still leader by 2029. I'd be less surprised if she joined reform before then. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,963 Posted November 2 Sounds to me like the next PM will be a Liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 2 38 minutes ago, time said: I'd be surprised if she's still leader by 2029. I'd be less surprised if she joined reform before then. I don’t see her joining Reform. She has some core differences with them. And the Tories now require 40 MP’s to want a Vote of No Confidence, Plus polls will likely remain close all the way to the election I suspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 2 28 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Sounds to me like the next PM will be a Liberal. Pretty unlikely becasue of how FPTP works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,745 Posted November 2 Trying to work out if Badenough winning is a good thing or a bad thing when the alternative was little Hitler Robert Jenrick. It suggests the Tory membership are perhaps less inclined to want close partnership with Farage and Reform and perhaps don't see leaving the EHRC as a key concern, both of which were big parts of Jenrick's pitch. Doubtless there'll be plenty of Tories crowing about how in the past 40 years the Tories have elected 4 female leaders to Labour's 0, ignoring that 3 of them were Theresa May, Liz Clusterfuck and now the Kemical toilet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 878 Posted November 2 Well the Tories have finally got an 'enoch as leader! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 4 Laura Trott has been appointed Shadow Education Secretary and Neil O’Brien has been appointed Shadow Minister of State for Education. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 4 Mel Stride has been appointed Shadow Chancellor and Dame Priti Patel has been appointed Shadow Foreign Secretary. Dame Rebecca Harris is the new Tory chief whip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,580 Posted November 4 Robert Jenrick has accepted the role of shadow justice secretary in Kemi Badenoch's new shadow cabinet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,745 Posted November 4 Priti Patel as shadow foreign secretary! They just don't get it do they? A woman sacked for lobbying the Israeli government whilst supposedly on holiday. And Jenrick back in Justice. They're just as shit as they were before the election. Not a chance they win in 2028/29, I'd give Farage more chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
