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11 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:

The GRO Index has been updated to include all deaths up to the end of 2021 (remembering that not all Dec 2021 deaths will be included if they weren’t registered until 2022). 

 

Anyone want any names checked?

 

Could you check Jeanne Hepple (IMDb) and Elizabeth Kelly (IMDb), please? I know Kelly is someone who shouldn't die off radar, but there have been so many off-radar notable soap actor deaths in recent years.

 

EDIT: Also John Evitts (IMDb)?

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12 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:

The GRO Index has been updated to include all deaths up to the end of 2021 (remembering that not all Dec 2021 deaths will be included if they weren’t registered until 2022). 

 

Anyone want any names checked?

Robert Clarke (IMDB).

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2 minutes ago, Summer in Transylvania said:

Robert Clarke (IMDB).

Fuck off.

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1 hour ago, Grimgrass said:

 

Could you check Jeanne Hepple (IMDb) and Elizabeth Kelly (IMDb), please? I know Kelly is someone who shouldn't die off radar, but there have been so many off-radar notable soap actor deaths in recent years.

 

EDIT: Also John Evitts (IMDb)?

None of them appear in there.

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4 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

None of them appear in there.

 

What about?

 

Dorothea Phillips (IMDb), Veronica Wells (IMDb),  Toni Palmer (IMDb),  Elizabeth Benson (IMDb), you already mentioned and Sheila Mitchell (Wiki/IMDb).

 

And notable with wiki: Vera Frances (Wiki),  Thea Gregory (Wiki), Sara Luzita (Wiki) recently became a centenarian and Elizabeth Morgan (Wiki)?

 

 

 

 

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June Laverick (Wiki)

Magda Miller (Wiki)

Irissa Cooper (Imdb)

Pauline Clayden (Wiki)

Eleana Johnson (Imdb)

Rosemary Dorken (Imdb)

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13 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:

The GRO Index has been updated to include all deaths up to the end of 2021 (remembering that not all Dec 2021 deaths will be included if they weren’t registered until 2022). 

 

Anyone want any names checked?

Huw Rees (IMDB)

Derek Smith (IMDB)

David Baron (IMDB)

Jean Challis (IMDb)

Burnell Tucker (IMDb)
Doreen Mantle (IMDb)

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On 26/08/2022 at 16:06, Gisooo said:

 

Strangely, his page is updated, died on October 30, 1991 aged 71 ???

IMDb have now changed Don Kennedy's page with the correct birth and death dates after I submitted evidence.

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Well now that I have some plausible new informations about Sabine André, I’d really appreciate it if @Ulitzer95 or someone else who could be interested could search for a death certificate of her as I absolutely don’t know Where to find it. The only things that i know is that she was born Sabine Eiffling in Bruxlles either the 25 of june 1913 or in 1908 and could have possibly died in 2011. She changed her name when she reached fame to Sabine André, sometimes spelt Sabine Andrée.

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4 minutes ago, Stuart Beck said:

 

David Baron (IMDB)

 

 

I'd be surprised if Doreen Mantle died off radar - she was only on TV the other year, and is a proper NAME actor imo. But, there's a famous story about this name I kept from above here that DLers might find amusing.

 

David Baron appeared in a few episodes of Doctor Who in 1968 opposite the Yetis, as a sort of warrior monk. Now, in the 1950s, future DL alumnus Harold Pinter, before he made it big, used to act to pay the bills under the name of David Baron.

 

So because of this, there are Dr Who fans out there who insist that in 1968 Harold Pinter, by then one of the most famous writers in the entire fucking country, went back under an old pseudonym and played a Tibetan monk in Dr Who for 6 weeks!

 

Not even the obvious evidence of them looking nothing alike, or the fact the Dr Who David Baron was a regarded TV regular of the time* who did not write The Homecoming, did little to dissuade some nutters.(Or you know, the fact the actor Baron got to claim the name because Pinter gave it up!)

 

 

People will genuinely believe ANYTHING if they see it online. 

 

*As far as I'm aware, no Minder fans have gone "OMG that Casino owner in one episode of Minder must be Harold Pinter in disguise!" 

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1 hour ago, Gisooo said:

 

What about?

 

Dorothea Phillips (IMDb), Veronica Wells (IMDb),  Toni Palmer (IMDb),  Elizabeth Benson (IMDb), you already mentioned and Sheila Mitchell (Wiki/IMDb).

 

And notable with wiki: Vera Frances (Wiki),  Thea Gregory (Wiki), Sara Luzita (Wiki) recently became a centenarian and Elizabeth Morgan (Wiki)?

 

Couldn't find any of them in the GRO. Though for a few of them, we don't know their married names, and without that information you can't really know their fate in many cases.

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1 hour ago, whoismakoto said:

June Laverick (Wiki)

Magda Miller (Wiki)

Irissa Cooper (Imdb)

Pauline Clayden (Wiki)

Eleana Johnson (Imdb)

Rosemary Dorken (Imdb)

Nothing.

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44 minutes ago, Stuart Beck said:

Huw Rees (IMDB)

Derek Smith (IMDB)

David Baron (IMDB)

Jean Challis (IMDb)

Burnell Tucker (IMDb)
Doreen Mantle (IMDb)

Huw Rees and David Baron – I can't search names in the GRO unless I have years of birth, otherwise we're just poking around in the dark.

Derek Smith – there are several people born in 1927 who died in 2021. It's too common a name to search.

Burnell Tucker – does he even live in the UK? Most of his credits seem to be from the States.

Doreen Mantle – we'd know of her death pretty quickly.

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38 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said:

Well now that I have some plausible new informations about Sabine André, I’d really appreciate it if @Ulitzer95 or someone else who could be interested could search for a death certificate of her as I absolutely don’t know Where to find it. The only things that i know is that she was born Sabine Eiffling in Bruxlles either the 25 of june 1913 or in 1908 and could have possibly died in 2011. She changed her name when she reached fame to Sabine André, sometimes spelt Sabine Andrée.

I can't find anything. 

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32 minutes ago, msc said:

David Baron appeared in a few episodes of Doctor Who in 1968 opposite the Yetis, as a sort of warrior monk. Now, in the 1950s, future DL alumnus Harold Pinter, before he made it big, used to act to pay the bills under the name of David Baron.

 

So because of this, there are Dr Who fans out there who insist that in 1968 Harold Pinter, by then one of the most famous writers in the entire fucking country, went back under an old pseudonym and played a Tibetan monk in Dr Who for 6 weeks!

 

Not even the obvious evidence of them looking nothing alike, or the fact the Dr Who David Baron was a regarded TV regular of the time* who did not write The Homecoming, did little to dissuade some nutters.(Or you know, the fact the actor Baron got to claim the name because Pinter gave it up!)

This is one reason I brought him up. I was watching the behind the scenes documentary on The Abominable Snowmen DVD containing interviews with the surviving guest actors Raymond Llewellyn and John Hogan (who has now died since the interview) but no mention of Baron besides the Pinter situation you've mentioned. I would assume that he has either died or it is just too common a name to track him down now he's off the radar. If he is dead then that just leaves Llewellyn as the final guest actor still living from that serial.

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20 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said:

More on Sabine André : a video of a song from a 1941 movie was posted on YouTube a month ago and I found this comment which stapulates that Sabine was born in 1908 (despite Wikipedia and Bnf database stating 1913) and died in 2011. Don’t know What is the veracity of this but I tend to believe it, don’t know Why. Anyway, she could have died a centenarian ! 

Another comment from the person who posted the video in which s.he also says that Andrée died in 2011 aged 103. It drives me mad to not know Where they find this information but they seem both great fans of 40-50´s french opéras so I tend to believe them
 

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On 17/11/2020 at 10:56, Ulitzer95 said:

Mentioned her a few months back but worth doing another check... another parent of note is Keith Harris' mother, Lilian (known as "Lila") Harris who was born in 1917. 100th birthday report from Cheshire Liver in 2017. Nothing in the GRO or probates since then.

She was a singer and dancer in her own right and turning 104 next year. Could potentially obit.

Not in the GRO up to December 2021, so still living at 105 it would seem.

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On 06/09/2022 at 16:46, Stuart Beck said:

Derek Smith (IMDB)

Was wondering if anyone could provide further help for me with this one.

 

Actor Derek Smith reportedly born 15 June 1927 in Tooting London and has onscreen credits from 1958-2007.

 

I can find one website saying that he died, 7 April 2015, but this is not mentioned anywhere else as far as I can see and the website doesn't list a source.

 

My first thought is that they were getting him confused with another Derek Smith (Wiki) who was also born in 1927 and died in 2015, however the date of death, 17 March, is different to the one assigned to the other Smith.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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19 minutes ago, Stuart Beck said:

Was wondering if anyone could provide further help for me with this one.

 

Actor Derek Smith reportedly born 15 June 1927 in Tooting London and has onscreen credits from 1958-2007.

 

I can find one website saying that he died, 7 April 2015, but this is not mentioned anywhere else as far as I can see and the website doesn't list a source.

 

My first thought is that they were getting him confused with another Derek Smith (Wiki) who was also born in 1927 and died in 2015, however the date of death, 17 March, is different to the one assigned to the other Smith.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

It's nonsense. Not listed in the GRO Index, which would now be complete for 2015.

Not to mention, he's a Doctor Who actor of some prominence. His death wouldn't go unnoticed.

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Anyone able to find out if Peter Russell is still with us?

Royal butler who was a frequent face on TV and in print during the 90s and 00s (incl. an appearance as a guest on The Mrs Merton Show). He was born in 1933 so would be 88/89 now. Can't find anything recent anywhere.

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Is Sheila Brennan (Imdb) listed in the latest GRO index?

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42 minutes ago, whoismakoto said:

Is Sheila Brennan (Imdb) listed in the latest GRO index?

Don't see her there. Searched under both Brennan and Savory (her married name by her second husband).

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There is an actress named Patricia Walthall (IMDb) born March 1918 in LA, CA as Mary Patricia Wallace Walthall

 

Appeared in five movies, known as Judy Ware in Empty Holsters (1937),  still no update in IMDb but I know that this does not mean that she is still alive!

Married to Mario J. Cueto in 1941 and briefly lived in Houston, later they migrated in Buenos Aires according to IMDb (afraid she died there off radar) anyway does have sth for her in Ancestry or family tree?

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

There is an actress named Patricia Walthall (IMDb) born March 1918 in LA, CA as Mary Patricia Wallace Walthall

 

Appeared in five movies, known as Judy Ware in Empty Holsters (1937),  still no update in IMDb but I know that this does not mean that she is still alive!

Married to Mario J. Cueto in 1941 and briefly lived in Houston, later they migrated in Buenos Aires according to IMDb (afraid she died there off radar) anyway does have sth for her in Ancestry or family tree?

 

 

All the details on IMDb are correct.

A little more from Ancestry – her husband Mario Cueto was born in 1912. There's no death information for either of them. It's possible that they emigrated to Argentina, but their travel cards from the 40s and 50s also reveal they spent a lot of time in Brazil (specifically Rio) so they may have moved there.

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American Actor Michael D. Nye's IMDb page says that he died last year on November 7th, however I am unable to find a (reliable) source for this and can see other places having his date of death as November 6th.

 

Would anyone be able to help in either disproving this or finding a source.