drol 12,025 Posted October 19, 2020 22 hours ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Hospitalised Not surprising and not good given his circumstances He is a goner. Hours, days at most. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomTomTelekom 3,728 Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, drol said: He is a goner. Hours, days at most. DEAD Drol was right, indeed only few hours. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, TomTomTelekom said: DEAD Drol was right, indeed only few hours. Conflicting reports. Some suggesting that the family are denying it. No consensus on Wiki. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/01/2020 at 12:28, Ulitzer95 said: Agreed that a lot of them have been dropping off recently. Thought I'd take this opportunity to look at how many WWII veterans from the three strands of government in the U.S. are still with us. There are still 20 living formers members of the House of Representatives who served: b. 1919: Lester L. Wolff b. 1920: Neal Edward Smith b. 1921: Mike McCormack b. 1923: Bob Dole, Al Quie b. 1924: Frank Joseph Guarini, Weston E. Vivian b. 1925: Fletcher Thompson, G. William Whitehurst, Lucien Nedzi b. 1926: J. Roy Rowland, Elwood Hillis, Earl Hutto, Mark Andrews, Robert J. Lagomarsino b. 1927: Benjamin B. Blackburn, Arthur Ravenel Jr., Austin Murphy, Bud Brown, Edwin Edwards, Jim Weaver, James W. Symington There are just 4 living Senators who served (they are also the top 4 oldest living): b. 1923: James Buckley, Bob Dole (also listed above) b. 1925: Daniel Evans b. 1926: Mark Andrews (also listed above) b. 1927: John Warner There are 13 living Governors who served: b. 1921: John Malcolm Patterson b. 1922: Wayne Mixson b. 1923: William Winter, Al Quie (also listed above), Linwood Holton b. 1924: Dale E. Wolf, Jimmy Carter b. 1925: Ted Schwinden, Daniel Evans (also listed above) b. 1926: George Ariyoshi b. 1927: Phil Batt, George Nigh, Winfield Dunn, Edwin Edwards (also listed above) Jimmy Carter (also listed above) is of course the only living President who served. There are no living Vice Presidents who served. 5 living members of the Cabinet who served: Johnson administration: Alan Stephenson Boyd (b. 1922), Ramsey Clark (b. 1927) Nixon administration: Henry Kissinger (b. 1923), George Shultz (b. 1920) Ford administration: Henry Kissinger (b. 1923, also listed above) Carter administration: Charles Duncan (b. 1926), Ray Marshall (b. 1928) Reagan administration: George Shultz (b. 1920, also listed above) No living justices of the Supreme Court who served following the death of John Paul Stevens (1920–2019). As far as I know, these are complete. I will do the UK (Commons and Lords) when I get time, but that will probably involve more research. Updated for the death of Alan Stephenson Boyd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,782 Posted October 20, 2020 I've decided to do one of these "remaining WWII vets" things for remaining Finnish WWII vets. Mauno Koivisto (1923-2017) was the last living prime minister and the only president who served. There are multiple ministers living who served/born before 1928: Ele Alenius (1925-2022) was the Second Minister of Finance in the Paasio I and Koivisto I cabinets 1966-1970 and is the last living person who was a Minister in the 1960s. Heimo Linna (1925-2022) was the Minister of Agriculture and Forestry in the Sorsa I and Miettunen II cabinets, 1973-1975 and 1975-1976. Aarno Strömmer (1927-2021) Second Minister of the Interior in the Liinamaa cabinet of 1975. Was never a member of the parliament. Taisto Tähkämaa (b. 1924) was a minister in the Sorsa II, Koivisto II and Sorsa III cabinets. Positions held: Defence Minister 1977-1979 Minister of Agriculture and Forestry 1979-1982, 1982-1983 Sinikka Luja-Penttilä (1924-2022) Health minister 1979-1982 during the Koivisto II cabinet. Didn't serve. Carl-Olof Tallgren (b. 1927) Minister of Finance 1970-1971 during the Karjalainen II cabinet. There are multiple parliament members who served/born before 1928: Pentti Poutanen (1922-2022) Parliament member 1970-1987. Earliest living parliament member after the death of Raino Westerholm (1919-2017) from June to August 2017 with Markus Kainulainen (born on the same day) until Kainulainen's death. Pekka Haarla (1923-2021) Consul, Parliament member 1966-1972 Artturi Niemelä (1923-2021) Parliament member 1970-1975 Sinikka Luja-Penttilä (1924-2022) Mentioned above, parliament member 1966-1983. Didn't serve Taisto Tähkämaa (b. 1924) Mentioned above, parliament member 1970-1991 Ele Alenius (1925-2022) Mentioned above, parliament member 1966-1972 Jutta Zilliacus (b. 1925) Parliament member 1975-1987. Didn't serve. Väinö Vilponiemi (1925-2022) Parliament member 1962-1975. Heimo Linna (1925-2022) Mentioned above, parliament member 1966-1987. Heikki Hasu (b. 1926) Olympic gold medalist, parliament member 1962-1966 and 1967-1970. Anna-Liisa Hyvönen (1926-2021) Parliament member 1972-1980. Didn't serve. Carl Olof Tallgren (b. 1927) Mentioned above, parliament member 1961-1975. Irma Rosnell (1927-2022) Parliament member 1954-1987. Didn't serve. Sauli Hautala (1927-2021) Parliament member 1975-1983 and 1987-1991. Pirkko Ikonen (b. 1927) Parliament member 1983-1991. Didn't serve. Elsi Hetemäki-Olander (1927-2023) Parliament member 1970-1991. Didn't serve. Ensio Laine (1927-2021) Parliament member 1968-1995. Oili Suomi (1927-2023) Parliament member 1970-1972 and 1977-1979. Didn't serve. 1928-1930, didn't serve: Raimo Ilaskivi (b. 1928) Parliament member 1962-1975. Helvi Hyrynkangas (1928-2021) Parliament member 1979-1983. Liisa Hilpelä (b. 1928) Parliament member 1983-1991. Tellervo Koivisto (b. 1929) Former First Lady, parliament member in 1975. Erkki Pystynen (b. 1929) Former Speaker of the Parliament, parliament member 1975-1991. Orvokki Kauppila (b. 1929) Parliament member 1970-1972. Sakari Knuuttila (1930-2023) Parliament member 1966-1991. Lasse Näsi (1930-2022) Parliament member 1991-1995. ----- Jaakko Numminen (1928-2022) Minister of Education 1970 in the Aura I cabinet, was never a parliament member. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adrian0719 224 Posted October 23, 2020 Mitch McConnell looking rough af, but denies anything wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,084 Posted October 23, 2020 John Powley, former Tory MP, Norwich South: https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/remembrance-of-departed-colleagues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 24, 2020 On 18/07/2020 at 20:22, drol said: A quick list of old Chinese politicos, one of the hardest thing to kill in this world. 3)Zou Yu (1920): minister of Justice, he was hospitalized in a serious condition in 2017, but got discharged and made appearances as late as last September. Also known because his granddaughter is fine. Looks amazing on his 100th birthday. Chinese sorcery, it's clear they will inherit the world! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 25, 2020 On 09/10/2020 at 20:27, gcreptile said: Saeb Erekat now has the Coronavirus (with a transplanted lung): https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-plo-official-saeb-erekat-diagnosed-with-coronavirus/ Saeb Erekat heading to multiple organ failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 25, 2020 On 18/07/2020 at 20:22, drol said: 8)Zhu Rongji (1928): progressist PM who believed in human rights. Recently made the headlines as he did not take part to the 70th PRC anniversary to protest against what is happening in Hong Kong. Zhu Rongji celebrates 92nd birthday in hospital. It appears he has been there for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 25, 2020 Former West Bengal CM and AODP pick Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee looking rough, suffering from terminal COPD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,239 Posted October 25, 2020 David Karnes, who was a US senator between 1987 and 1989 has died at 71 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,343 Posted October 25, 2020 5 hours ago, drol said: Former West Bengal CM and AODP pick Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee looking rough, suffering from terminal COPD. Crikey he looks 106 not 76!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomTomTelekom 3,728 Posted October 26, 2020 Breaking News: German politician and member of the Social Democratik Party, Thomas Oppermann died at 66 years: https://www.bild.de/politik/2020/politik/medienberichte-bundestagsvizepraesident-thomas-oppermann-ist-tot-73594826.bild.html 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roaming_comrade 471 Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, TomTomTelekom said: Breaking News: German politician and member of the Social Democratik Party, Thomas Oppermann died at 66 years: https://www.bild.de/politik/2020/politik/medienberichte-bundestagsvizepraesident-thomas-oppermann-ist-tot-73594826.bild.html Add to that he was Vice-President of the Parliament at the time of his death 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomTomTelekom 3,728 Posted October 26, 2020 Iraqi Vice President (1979-2003) Izzat al Douri died at 78 years: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/saddam-hussein-s-aide-izzat-al-douri-dies-in-iraq/2019160 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted October 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, TomTomTelekom said: Iraqi Vice President (1979-2003) Izzat al Douri died at 78 years: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/saddam-hussein-s-aide-izzat-al-douri-dies-in-iraq/2019160 I would advise caution. His death has been announced by Ba’athist Party sources and then subsequently refuted several times in the past. As the article you’ve just quoted says, he is a fugitive and it hasn’t been verified. Wise to wait for confirmation from either the Iraqi or American government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: I would advise caution. His death has been announced and then subsequently refuted several times in the past. As the article you’ve just quoted says, he is a fugitive and it hasn’t been verified. Wise to wait for confirmation from either the Iraqi or American government. No, it was announced by his own party, they had a funeral this morning and some seemingly authentic pictures of his body are available. 100% dead this time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, drol said: No, it was announced by his own party, they had a funeral this morning and some seemingly authentic pictures of his body are available. 100% dead this time. The key word there being “seemingly”. The Ba’ath Party was the source for his death in April 2015 as well. I know you’re impatient at waiting for death confirmations drol, and it’s clear that it annoys you but perhaps just hold out until an official body confirms it rather than claiming to know more than the sources currently available. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,782 Posted October 26, 2020 If true, this is very big news and will probably change some stuff in Iraq and the levant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted October 26, 2020 The Jerusalem Post sum it up quite nicely. “Reported dead – again”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: The key word there being “seemingly”. The Ba’ath Party was the source for his death in April 2015 as well. I know you’re impatient at waiting for death confirmations drol, and it’s clear that it annoys you but perhaps just hold out until an official body confirms it rather than claiming to know more than the sources currently available. You are right, though Iraqi government is not a reliable source in turn. I'll put all my money on "very much dead" this time. And likely leukemia or natural causes in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: The Ba’ath Party was the source for his death in April 2015 as well. I know you’re impatient at waiting for death confirmations drol, and it’s clear that it annoys you but perhaps just hold out until an official body confirms it rather than claiming to know more than the sources currently available. Are you sure? Wasn't it Shi'ite militia who claimed to have killed him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted October 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, drol said: No, it was announced by his own party, they had a funeral this morning and some seemingly authentic pictures of his body are available. 100% dead this time. Theres one picture and it's available here. Could be him. Hard to tell though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,025 Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Theres one picture and it's available here. Could be him. Hard to tell though. That was the one I was referring to. Could also be Bennings from "The Thing", he looks quite similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
