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22 hours ago, DCI Frank Burnside said:

 

Hospitalised 

 

Not surprising and not good given his circumstances

 

He is a goner. Hours, days at most.

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1 hour ago, TomTomTelekom said:

 

DEAD

Drol was right, indeed only few hours.


Conflicting reports. Some suggesting that the family are denying it. No consensus on Wiki.

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On 10/01/2020 at 12:28, Ulitzer95 said:

Agreed that a lot of them have been dropping off recently.

Thought I'd take this opportunity to look at how many WWII veterans from the three strands of government in the U.S. are still with us.

There are still 20 living formers members of the House of Representatives who served:

b. 1919: Lester L. Wolff
b. 1920: Neal Edward Smith
b. 1921: Mike McCormack
b. 1923: Bob Dole, Al Quie
b. 1924: Frank Joseph Guarini, Weston E. Vivian
b. 1925: Fletcher Thompson, G. William Whitehurst, Lucien Nedzi
b. 1926: J. Roy Rowland, Elwood Hillis, Earl Hutto, Mark Andrews, Robert J. Lagomarsino
b. 1927: Benjamin B. Blackburn, Arthur Ravenel Jr., Austin Murphy, Bud Brown, Edwin Edwards, Jim Weaver, James W. Symington

There are just 4 living Senators who served (they are also the top 4 oldest living):
b. 1923: James Buckley, Bob Dole (also listed above)
b. 1925: Daniel Evans
b. 1926: Mark Andrews (also listed above)
b. 1927: John Warner

There are 13 living Governors who served:
b. 1921: John Malcolm Patterson
b. 1922: Wayne Mixson
b. 1923: William Winter, Al Quie (also listed above), Linwood Holton
b. 1924: Dale E. Wolf, Jimmy Carter
b. 1925: Ted Schwinden, Daniel Evans (also listed above)
b. 1926: George Ariyoshi
b. 1927: Phil Batt, George Nigh, Winfield Dunn, Edwin Edwards (also listed above)

Jimmy Carter (also listed above) is of course the only living President who served. There are no living Vice Presidents who served.

5 living members of the Cabinet who served:

Johnson administrationAlan Stephenson Boyd (b. 1922), Ramsey Clark (b. 1927)
Nixon administration: Henry Kissinger (b. 1923), George Shultz (b. 1920)
Ford administration: Henry Kissinger (b. 1923, also listed above)
Carter administration: Charles Duncan (b. 1926), Ray Marshall (b. 1928)
Reagan administration: George Shultz (b. 1920, also listed above)

No living justices of the Supreme Court who served following the death of John Paul Stevens (1920–2019).

As far as I know, these are complete. I will do the UK (Commons and Lords) when I get time, but that will probably involve more research.


Updated for the death of Alan Stephenson Boyd.

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I've decided to do one of these "remaining WWII vets" things for remaining Finnish WWII vets.

 

Mauno Koivisto (1923-2017) was the last living prime minister and the only president who served.

 

There are multiple ministers living who served:

 

Ele Alenius (b. 1925) was a minister in the Paasio I and Koivisto I cabinets.

Heimo Linna (b. 1925) was a minister in the Sorsa I and Miettunen II cabinets.

Aarno Strömmer (b. 1927) was a minister in the Liinamaa cabinet

Taisto Tähkämaa (b. 1924) was a minister in the Sorsa II, Koivisto II and Sorsa III cabinets.

 

 

There's also multiple parliament members who served in WWII alive. I might list them later here.

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On 18/07/2020 at 20:22, drol said:

A quick list of old Chinese politicos, one of the hardest thing to kill in this world.

 

 

3)Zou Yu (1920): minister of Justice, he was hospitalized in a serious condition in 2017, but got discharged and made appearances as late as last September. Also known because his granddaughter is fine.

 

 

Looks amazing on his 100th birthday. Chinese sorcery, it's clear they will inherit the world!

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On 09/10/2020 at 20:27, gcreptile said:

Saeb Erekat now has the Coronavirus (with a transplanted lung):

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-plo-official-saeb-erekat-diagnosed-with-coronavirus/

Saeb Erekat heading to multiple organ failure:pop:

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On 18/07/2020 at 20:22, drol said:

 

8)Zhu Rongji (1928): progressist PM who believed in human rights. Recently made the headlines as he did not take part to the 70th PRC anniversary to protest against what is happening in Hong Kong.

 

 

Zhu Rongji celebrates 92nd birthday in hospital. It appears he has been there for a long time.

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Former West Bengal CM and AODP pick Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee looking rough, suffering from terminal COPD.

CPI(M) Slams Bengal Guv for Sharing Pictures of Ailing Buddhadeb  Bhattacharjee on Twitter | newsx24

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David Karnes, who was a US senator between 1987 and 1989 has died at 71

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5 hours ago, drol said:

Former West Bengal CM and AODP pick Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee looking rough, suffering from terminal COPD.

CPI(M) Slams Bengal Guv for Sharing Pictures of Ailing Buddhadeb  Bhattacharjee on Twitter | newsx24

Crikey he looks 106 not 76!!!!!

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5 hours ago, TomTomTelekom said:

Breaking News: German politician and member of the Social Democratik Party, Thomas Oppermann died at 66 years:

https://www.bild.de/politik/2020/politik/medienberichte-bundestagsvizepraesident-thomas-oppermann-ist-tot-73594826.bild.html

Add to that he was Vice-President of the Parliament at the time of his death

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37 minutes ago, TomTomTelekom said:

Iraqi Vice President (1979-2003) Izzat al Douri died at 78 years:

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/saddam-hussein-s-aide-izzat-al-douri-dies-in-iraq/2019160


I would advise caution.
 

His death has been announced by Ba’athist Party sources and then subsequently refuted several times in the past.

 

As the article you’ve just quoted says, he is a fugitive and it hasn’t been verified.

 

Wise to wait for confirmation from either the Iraqi or American government.

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12 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


I would advise caution.
 

His death has been announced and then subsequently refuted several times in the past.

 

As the article you’ve just quoted says, he is a fugitive and it hasn’t been verified.

 

Wise to wait for confirmation from either the Iraqi or American government.

No, it was announced by his own party, they had a funeral this morning and some seemingly authentic pictures of his body are available. 100% dead this time.

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5 minutes ago, drol said:

No, it was announced by his own party, they had a funeral this morning and some seemingly authentic pictures of his body are available. 100% dead this time.


The key word there being “seemingly”.
 

The Ba’ath Party was the source for his death in April 2015 as well.

 

I know you’re impatient at waiting for death confirmations drol, and it’s clear that it annoys you but perhaps just hold out until an official body confirms it rather than claiming to know more than the sources currently available.

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If true, this is very big news and will probably change some stuff in Iraq and the levant.

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The Jerusalem Post sum it up quite nicely.

 

“Reported dead – again”.

 

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5 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


The key word there being “seemingly”.
 

The Ba’ath Party was the source for his death in April 2015 as well.

 

I know you’re impatient at waiting for death confirmations drol, and it’s clear that it annoys you but perhaps just hold out until an official body confirms it rather than claiming to know more than the sources currently available.

You are right, though Iraqi government is not a reliable source in turn. I'll put all my money on "very much dead" this time. And likely leukemia or natural causes in general.

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35 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


 

The Ba’ath Party was the source for his death in April 2015 as well.

 

I know you’re impatient at waiting for death confirmations drol, and it’s clear that it annoys you but perhaps just hold out until an official body confirms it rather than claiming to know more than the sources currently available.

Are you sure? Wasn't it Shi'ite militia who claimed to have killed him?

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47 minutes ago, drol said:

No, it was announced by his own party, they had a funeral this morning and some seemingly authentic pictures of his body are available. 100% dead this time.


Theres one picture and it's available here.

Could be him. Hard to tell though.

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4 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Theres one picture and it's available here.

Could be him. Hard to tell though.

That was the one I was referring to. Could also be Bennings from "The Thing", he looks quite similar.

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