Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted July 27, 2023 Jim Maguire, who played for Rochdale, Alloa, Brechin, Dumbarton and Queen of the South, is dead. According to Scotland's People, there is only one James Smith Maguire born between 1929 and 1932. Significantly, that man was born in Eaglesham, which matches his Wiki page, but is 2 years older than originally thought. @Ulitzer95 could you tidy this one up please? MAGUIRE JAMES SMITH M 1930 561 / 3 EAGLESHAM That man died in 2020 as per below: MAGUIRE JAMES SMITH 90 SMITH M 2020 649 / 306 BARRHEAD 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted August 3, 2023 Hugman's footballers list a Swansea Town player called Bobby Hennings. Middle name Iva.http://barryhugmansfootballers.com/player/8790 Actually his name was Bobby Ira Henning and he died 17th March 2022 - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/latest-death-memorium-notices-swansea-23557850 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted August 4, 2023 Charlie Twissell, Singapore-born footballer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Twissell - who served in the Royal Navy as a radar technician before joining Plymouth and then York City as a winger, died earlier this year. No online report, other than this probate: https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results Last name First name Date of death ce Twissell Charles Herbert 18 January 2023 He turned professional in 1957 but was an amateur when he joined Plymouth. He had an extensive amateur career, gaining 5 caps for the England Amateur team and played for Great Britain in the 1956 Olympic Games. @Ulitzer95 and @Canadian Paul, FYI. He might have been the last surviving member of that team. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoismakoto 324 Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Octopus of Odstock said: He might have been the last surviving member of that team. That title belongs to Mike Pinner who died on 2 May, 2023 according to a letter I received from his wife 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,082 Posted August 5, 2023 11 hours ago, whoismakoto said: That title belongs to Mike Pinner who died on 2 May, 2023 according to a letter I received from his wife What about Terry Robinson ? Both Wiki and Olympedia list him as alive, or at least do not precise his death date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted August 6, 2023 Jim Cairney Wiki, died in summer 2018, in Canada - as per this notice from his son, in The Scottish Banner - https://www.scottishbanner.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SB-4202-August-NA.pdf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted August 8, 2023 Gwyn Morgans, former Southport and Wrexham player, died last month - https://www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/news/2023/july/rip--morgan-gwyn-morgans/ Mick Jakeman, ex-Leicester City, died 1st May 2023 - https://funeral-notices.co.uk/notice/jakeman/5122395 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,918 Posted August 12, 2023 Not sure where to put this (as not really League, I guess - English footy remains a mystery to me in large part). Anyhow, goalkeeper Sid Negus, who was Fakenham Town's oldest living player, has died aged 96: Article from 2 years ago to get his position and age: https://footballinberkshire.co.uk/features/history-nostalgia/54007/fakenham-towns-berkshire-connection-with-binfield-and-ascot-united/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted September 2, 2023 On 22/11/2021 at 20:46, Ulitzer95 said: @Octopus of Odstock, decided to do a bit of research into Eric Hampson (b. 1921) and I believe I've made some progress. He retired in 1954. By 1959 he had moved to Bognor in Sussex and was working as a confectioner and tobacconist. The source is this old newspaper clipping I pulled up from the British Newspaper Archive: Crucially, it gives his wife's name as Ethel. From this information I was able to locate her through Ancestry in the family trees. She was born in Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire as Ethel Morris (not far from Eric) in 1922. She died in Lewes, Sussex in December 1973. So they were still living in Sussex at that point. Now I have great reason to believe Eric moved away after she passed away, and I think I can just about prove it. His listing on the Ancestry family trees is private, meaning he's listed as living (so either he is still alive OR he has died and nobody who has him in their trees has added his death details). There is one clue however. Their daughter Elizabeth Vivian Hampson (b. 1952 in Staffordshire) is listed as having died in Queensland, Australia in 2012. If family members have updated that, it tends to suggest he was still alive in 2012. His absence from the GRO Index and 192People would give strength to the idea he's in or was in Queensland. That's where you should look for your answer. Having - finally - had the chance to subscribe to Ancestry again and to have the time to go through it, Eric Hampson is indeed dead. Died in 1995. Facts 1921(AGE) Select fact Birth 11 Nov 1921 • Leek. Staffordshire 193918 Select fact Residence 1939 • Staffordshire, England 1 source 194220 Select fact Marriage Mar 1942 • Stoke, Staffordshire Ethel Morris (1922–1973) 197048 Death of father Edwin Hampson(1894–1970) Apr 1970 • Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire, England 197351 Death of wife Ethel Morris(1922–1973) Oct 1973 • Peacehaven Sussex 199573 Select factView Death 1 Nov 1995 1 source Select fact Burial Staffordshire, England 1 source 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,431 Posted September 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: Having - finally - had the chance to subscribe to Ancestry again and to have the time to go through it, Eric Hampson is indeed dead. Died in 1995. Facts 1921(AGE) Select fact Birth 11 Nov 1921 • Leek. Staffordshire 193918 Select fact Residence 1939 • Staffordshire, England 1 source 194220 Select fact Marriage Mar 1942 • Stoke, Staffordshire Ethel Morris (1922–1973) 197048 Death of father Edwin Hampson(1894–1970) Apr 1970 • Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire, England 197351 Death of wife Ethel Morris(1922–1973) Oct 1973 • Peacehaven Sussex 199573 Select factView Death 1 Nov 1995 1 source Select fact Burial Staffordshire, England 1 source Sorry OoO, but this cannot be right. The footballer, as we understand was born on 11 November 1921 in Stroke on Trent, Staffordshire. Check record on FreeBMD – this birth existed. The 1995 death record for "that" Eric Hampson lists his age at "78". That would mean a birth of ~1917... Check record on the GRO – confirms this individual was born in 1917. In fact, here's the full record for "that" Eric Hampson: Name Eric Hampson Death Age 78 Birth Date 9 Feb 1917 Registration Date Nov 1995 Registration district Newcastle Under Lyme Inferred County Staffordshire Register Number 42 District and Subdistrict 7332 Entry Number 144 A quick look at FreeBMD pulls up the birth record for the 1917-born Hampson. He was born in Leigh, Lancashire, and his mother's surname was Aldred. This contradicts the family trees on Ancestry that match these birth and death records. They give his mother as Emma Adams. FreeBMD confirms that Ms. Adams was the mother of the 1921 born Hampson. This is why amateur genealogy is so dangerous. One person matches the wrong record, and then lots of others on Ancestry simply copy it. I'm convinced the real Eric Hampson moved abroad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted September 2, 2023 Her 1 minute ago, Ulitzer95 said: Sorry OoO, but this cannot be right. The football, as we understand was born on 11 November 1921 in Stroke on Trent, Staffordshire. Check record on FreeBMD – this birth existed. The 1995 death record for "that" Eric Hampson lists his age at "78". That would mean a birth of ~1917... Check record on the GRO – confirms this individual was born in 1917. In fact, here's the full record for "that" Eric Hampson: Name Eric Hampson Death Age 78 Birth Date 9 Feb 1917 Registration Date Nov 1995 Registration district Newcastle Under Lyme Inferred County Staffordshire Register Number 42 District and Subdistrict 7332 Entry Number 144 A quick look at FreeBMD pulls up the birth record for the 1917-born Hampson. He was born in Leigh, Lancashire, and his mother's surname was Aldred. This contradicts the family trees on Ancestry that match these birth and death records. They give his mother as Emma Adams. FreeBMD confirms that Ms. Adams was the mother of the 1921 born Hampson. This is why amateur genealogy is so dangerous. One person matches the wrong record, and then lots of others on Ancestry simply copy it. I'm convinced the real Eric Hampson moved abroad. Ah bumholes, thought we had it then. Let me do some more digging. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted September 2, 2023 Okay, there are a few updates though: Name Mr John Simm Birth 24 Nov 1929 Death 12 Apr 2018 Residence Wigan, Wigan, England Stan Nicholson: His birth entry says his mother's name was Lewis Stanley Nicholson 1931–2023 BIRTH ABT SEP 1931 • Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England DEATH 15 FEB 2023 • Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England Mother is Olive Lewis, so it's the same chap. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted October 8, 2023 Tommy Hoyland, former Sheffield United stalwart, died recently https://www.sufc.co.uk/news/2023/october/04/rip-tommy-hoyland/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,918 Posted October 11, 2023 On 29/09/2019 at 11:23, Octopus of Odstock said: Wilf Billington 28/01/1930 Workington alive in Australia Wilf Billington reportedly dead aged 93: https://cumbriacrack.com/2023/10/11/workington-reds-goalie-wilf-billington-dies-aged-93/ 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gisooo 3,258 Posted October 16, 2023 On 29/06/2022 at 15:13, whoismakoto said: Egypt Abdel Aziz Kabil 14 March 1927 Abdel Aziz Kabil also known as Mohamed Kabil (Wiki) dead at 96 Mentioned also by @arghton in Foreign Personalities thread 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 1,966 Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 4:45 PM, Gisooo said: Abdel Aziz Kabil also known as Mohamed Kabil (Wiki) dead at 96 Mentioned also by @arghton in Foreign Personalities thread The oldest Egyptian Olympian is now Wagih El-Attar, born on 22 February 1928. El-Attar represented his country in the four-man rowing event at the 1952 Helsinki Games, where Egypt was eliminated in the repechage of the first round. He had better luck at the 1955 Mediterranean Games, where he won bronze in the doubles limp. He now lives in Orange Country, California. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted November 6, 2023 Not football league, but Roy Erskine, now 92, should get an obit (of sorts). Why should Stirling Albion's oldest living player be so notable for a so-so career with them and Cowdenbeath? Because he's Judy Murray's dad, Andy and Jamie Murray's grandad, that's why. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 822 Posted November 19, 2023 @Octopus of Odstock - Do we know how accurate Hugman's footballers is for birthdates? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,616 Posted November 19, 2023 Thought this shot of Carlisle United's "legends" squad in their snazzy Slazenger sponsored sweaters might brighten the thread. A few notables and obitables Ray Train, Les O'Neill... still with us. Sadly, think Mrs Ure - front and centre - has gone. Can't recall exactly how many goals she scored that season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Master Obit said: @Octopus of Odstock - Do we know how accurate Hugman's footballers is for birthdates? Relatively good, bear in mind the data on Hugmans comes from data compiled for over 40 years. Of course, though, some people fudge their age. I'd say it's 90 per cent accurate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 822 Posted November 19, 2023 Just now, Octopus of Odstock said: Relatively good, bear in mind the data on Hugmans comes from data compiled for over 40 years. Of course, though, some people fudge their age. I'd say it's 90 per cent accurate Cool. The list on the first page, the ones that are GRO okay - is that up to 2021, or 2022 (or later?) I'm willing to help in the sourcing of information as a result of my archiving work, so if you would be able to confirm what "x", "GRO OKAY", "alive" mean then it would be helpful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 822 Posted November 19, 2023 Ray Griffiths died Q3/2022 in Warrington Norman Wood died Q1/2022 in Sunderland None of the others on the first page were England or Wales casualties in 2022. Fire me any others you need checking (or any uncertainties from past years where you wasn't quite sure if it was the right one - I can check exact DOB) and I reckon we can get this list down a bit more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,180 Posted November 19, 2023 GRO okay is up to 21 (haven't seen 2022 uploaded yet) and means there is no-one of that name dead in GRO. Alive.means they're alive (for certain) X means not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 822 Posted November 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: GRO okay is up to 21 (haven't seen 2022 uploaded yet) and means there is no-one of that name dead in GRO. Alive.means they're alive (for certain) X means not sure. It is on there if you are able to access the html. I also live in close proximity to the archives, so can check against the E+W death index there (which is up to Q1/2023 presently and which I'll work this list against when I next go). 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 822 Posted November 19, 2023 If you're able to supply me everything you need checking, then I can gladly supply you any deaths (such as the two I listed above.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites