msc 18,512 Posted December 11, 2020 I think the hint here is that all the established members went "I think I left the gas on at home, AFB can deal with it" tbh. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,766 Posted December 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said: I hadn't really intended to Grim. I am not sure that it would be right for a relative newbie on here (a mere 111 posts!) to be taking over a long-running pool like the Hares. Adding up the scores to ensure a pool is finished is one thing, but taking over the pool in its entirety would be a touch presumptuous for someone who is a late-comer to this deadpooling lark. I think that the more established members on here should be given first dibs on running it, before I throw my hat into the ring. If no-one is interested in doing so, then I will give it a go rather than let it die. But it probably needs to get going fairly soon. As for your kind offer to update the scores - that's the easy bit! The only reason why I have been able to update things for the past few months is because of the huge amount of work that Deathray did last December to set up a master-list spreadsheet and an easy to use scoring system. Whatever the issues that the mods had with him, one cannot fault the effort he put into this pool every year. Its no wonder that he was prone to irrational outbursts with the stress of getting all the information together. A Christmas spent doing sifting through all the obscure and misspelled entries, and I too might end up sending PMs to all you c**ts out there, or posting pornographic GIFs of dwarves doing unmentionable things to donkeys! (or whatever it was that finally earned a ban). 112 now :-) Yeah setting up 40 teams on a spreadsheet over Christmas sifting through obscure and misspelled entries just for other people's enjoyment - sounds like a complete nightmare - who the fuck would want to do that! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Not Deathers 11 Posted December 11, 2020 18 hours ago, An Fear Beag said: I hadn't really intended to Grim. I am not sure that it would be right for a relative newbie on here (a mere 111 posts!) to be taking over a long-running pool like the Hares. Adding up the scores to ensure a pool is finished is one thing, but taking over the pool in its entirety would be a touch presumptuous for someone who is a late-comer to this deadpooling lark. I think that the more established members on here should be given first dibs on running it, before I throw my hat into the ring. If no-one is interested in doing so, then I will give it a go rather than let it die. But it probably needs to get going fairly soon. As for your kind offer to update the scores - that's the easy bit! The only reason why I have been able to update things for the past few months is because of the huge amount of work that Deathray did last December to set up a master-list spreadsheet and an easy to use scoring system. Whatever the issues that the mods had with him, one cannot fault the effort he put into this pool every year. Its no wonder that he was prone to irrational outbursts with the stress of getting all the information together. A Christmas spent doing sifting through all the obscure and misspelled entries, and I too might end up sending PMs to all you c**ts out there, or posting pornographic GIFs of dwarves doing unmentionable things to donkeys! (or whatever it was that finally earned a ban). Before I'm banned again you have my blessing. All Grims asking you do is collate the teams, literally a case of being a mailbox for entries up until the end of December and copying rules to new thread. Post teams in new thread, Grims offered to do the adding up scores by looks of it next year. Oh and thanks for keeping this alive. We didn't use a spreadsheet most time I ran this that's by no means essential. That was a recent addition, a list of the picks in word with teams next to them suffices. Oh and I've PMed you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Not Deathers 11 Posted December 12, 2020 @An Fear Beag @Grim Up North For whichever one of you wants to handle the regular scoring throughout next year I hope this is a reasonable solution. I'll take team entries and parse a master list, you score, remind me next December and I can do the same (Grim, you have my real email address which may be easier to get hold of me on than the Hare's burner so nab me when I enter a DDP team if I forget ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,586 Posted December 16, 2020 German Choirmaster Gotthilf Fischer is a welcome late hit for me here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,558 Posted December 17, 2020 According to Google, "Gotthilf Fischer ist tot". I don't speak German but I am going to hazard a wild guess that it means "Gotthilf Fischer is toast" So 345 valuable points for Book, who now moves up to 5th last with 604 points. Only 7 more hits needed in 2 weeks to catch the leader (or 6 with the Joker!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,586 Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said: According to Google, "Gotthilf Fischer ist tot". I don't speak German but I am going to hazard a wild guess that it means "Gotthilf Fischer is toast" So 345 valuable points for Book, who now moves up to 5th last with 604 points. Only 7 more hits needed in 2 weeks to catch the leader (or 6 with the Joker!) No problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,209 Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said: According to Google, "Gotthilf Fischer ist tot". I don't speak German but I am going to hazard a wild guess that it means "Gotthilf Fischer is toast" I'm afraid you'll have to guess again. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,558 Posted December 27, 2020 On the second day of Christmas, my true love gave to me......................... a hit for JiromeonKiruma in the form of Derek Aucoin and the lead at a very late stage in the game!! The 360 points on offer gives JK a lead of 50 over Etush and a new record score for the competition. Banana also had Aucoin and moves up to 2460 which is just 8 points short of a December 31st hit being enough to take the lead. This is an update to the top of the leaderboard with just 4 days to go: JiromeonKiruma (3083 points) 14 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Boris Klyuyev, Chitetsu Wantabe, Derek Aucoin, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Joseph Hanneschlager, Judy Dyble, Michael Gauthier, John Lewis, Lone Dybkjaer Steve Blackmore, Tabare Vasquez] Etushispushingupdaisies (3033 points) 16 hits [Alex Trebek, Armen D., Bob Gibson Cullan Brown, Daniel Arap Moi, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Jay Allen, John Andretti, Lee Kerslake Kirk Douglas, Pat Smullen, Roger Scruton, Tabare Vasquez, Terry Jones, Vasily Kulkov] Grim Up North (2888 points) 17 hits [Alex Trebek, Chris Doleman, David Hagen, Dennis Goldberg, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Howard Finkel, John Andretti, Judy Dyble, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake ,Liz Clarke-Saul, Nobby Stiles, Pat Smullen, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stirling Moss, Vera Lynn] John Key (2621 points) 14 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Chris Doleman, Frankie Benali, Ged Stokes,Genesis P-Orridge, Henry Gray, John Andretti, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Qaboos of Oman, Roberta McCain, Ruth Bader Ginsburg , Sam Lloyd] The Unknown Man (2550 points) 15 hits [Alex Trebek, Chris Doleman, Daniel Arap Moi, Everton Weekes, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Javier Perez de Cuellar, John Andretti, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Nobby Stiles, Olivia de Haviland, Sam Lloyd, Tabare Vasquez, Terry Jones] Nantonian2013 (2524 points) 10 hits [Alex Trebek, Everton Weekes, John Hume, Kamala, Little Richard, Nobby Stiles, Roberta McCain, Roger Scruton, Sumner Redstone, Tabare Vasquez] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,558 Posted December 27, 2020 For those of you looking for even more late drama, these are the picks that could give one last twist to this competition and give a late leader at the 11th hour. ANY DAY Anastasia Zavorotnyuk - Etush Bill Turnbull - Etush Brandon Sorenson - Etush Doddie Weir - Etush George Alagiah - Etush Gianluca Vialli - - Etush Jimmy Carter - Etush Michael York - Etush Bernard Tapei - Grim Ernie Moss - Grim Greg Gilbert- Grim Sinisa Mihahojvic - Grim Tom Smith - Grim 30th or 31st Kane Tanaka - Captain Chorizo 31st December Desmond Tutu - John Key Joni Mitchell - John Key Leon Spinks - John Key Morrissey - John Key Prince Phillip - John Key Eve Marie Saint - Unknown Man Georgio Napolotino - Unknown Man Isabel Peron - Unknown Man Jean Louis Trintingent - Unknown Man Abdullah the Butcher - Nantonian Andrew Romanov - Nantonian Bob Barker - Nantonian Bob Dole - Nantonian Brian Cowen - Nantonian OJ Brigance - Nantonian Clarissa Eden - Nantonian David Butler - Nantonian Katherine Jackson - Nantonian Michael Jopling - Nantonian Pope Benedict - Nantonian Lots of good names there- this ain't over yet! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,426 Posted December 27, 2020 So you’ve discounted me then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,558 Posted January 13, 2021 I'm sure you have all been on the edge of your seats for the past 13 days, wondering what happened with the exciting conclusion to the 2020 Hares Pool. Was there last drama? Did Grim rise from the ashes to snatch an improbable victory at the death? We will come to all that in a bit. Before that, a little bit of house-keeping. Having sifted through all the obscure names in the master-list (Thanks Book and Predictor ), these are the last names that I can find that died in 2020. 16th October: Paul Rutter - Sir Creep 19th December: Shirley Abrahamson - Predictor 29th December: Pierre Cardin - Etib80 30th December: Ronald Atkins - Msc, Pedro If you do come across any of your deceased picks that I have missed - tough luck, you had your chance. All scoring is now over, the tallymen are tallying, and the result will be here shortly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,558 Posted January 13, 2021 It is with great pleasure that I can announce that the winner of the Hares Pool 2020 is ...... JiromeonKimura A magnificent performance which highlights the importance of the late hit in this pool. 5 other players had more hits, but 9 of JKs hits came in the second half of the year, with the all important hits of Vasquez and Aucoin in December. That gave a new record of 3083 points, and the much sought-after Hares title. WINNER JiromeonKiruma (3083 points) 14 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Boris Klyuyev, Chitetsu Wantabe, Derek Aucoin, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Joseph Hanneschlager, Judy Dyble, Michael Gauthier, John Lewis, Lone Dybkjaer Steve Blackmore, Tabare Vasquez] RUNNER-UP Etushispushingupdaisies (3033 points) 16 hits [Alex Trebek, Armen D., Bob Gibson Cullan Brown, Daniel Arap Moi, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Jay Allen, John Andretti, Lee Kerslake Kirk Douglas, Pat Smullen, Roger Scruton, Tabare Vasquez, Terry Jones, Vasily Kulkov] The unlucky runner up is Etushispushingupdaisies. Despite taking the lead late on (6th December) with a then record score, Etush just couldn't hold on and was caught with 5 days to go. 16 hits just didn't yield enough, with 7 of those coming by March 17th. THIRD PLACE Grim Up North (2888 points) 17 hits [Alex Trebek, Chris Doleman, David Hagen, Dennis Goldberg, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Howard Finkel, John Andretti, Judy Dyble, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake ,Liz Clarke-Saul, Nobby Stiles, Pat Smullen, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stirling Moss, Vera Lynn] Filling the last of the podium spaces is long-time leader Grim Up North. Of small consolation is a new record of 17 hits. However the hits dried up after November 8th allowing others to catch up. The real deal-breaker however was that joker Tom Smith refused to go. Of the 17 hits, 13 would have given Grim the title had they been selected as the joker. GOOD, BUT NOT QUITE THERE: the over 2020 points club John Key (2621 points) 14 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Chris Doleman, Frankie Benali, Ged Stokes,Genesis P-Orridge, Henry Gray, John Andretti, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Qaboos of Oman, Roberta McCain, Ruth Bader Ginsburg , Sam Lloyd] The Unknown Man (2550 points) 15 hits [Alex Trebek, Chris Doleman, Daniel Arap Moi, Everton Weekes, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Javier Perez de Cuellar, John Andretti, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Nobby Stiles, Olivia de Haviland, Sam Lloyd, Tabare Vasquez, Terry Jones] Nantonian2013 (2524 points) 10 hits [Alex Trebek, Everton Weekes, John Hume, Kamala, Little Richard, Nobby Stiles, Roberta McCain, Roger Scruton, Sumner Redstone, Tabare Vasquez] Banana (2460 points) 14 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Chris Doleman, Derek Aucoin, Frankie Benali, Greg Lewis, Henri Richard, John Lewis, Joseph Hanneschlager, Lee Kerslake Ruth Morrissey, Steve Blackmore, Terry Jones, Tom Belso] CaptainChorizo (2355 points) 17 Hits [Alex Trebek, Bernard Ebbers, Bernhard Pinera, Bob Weighton, Chitetsu Wantabe , Dennis Goldberg, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Hugh Downs, John Lewis, Johnny Harris, Lee Kerslake, Raymond Allen, Roger Scruton, Terry Jones, Toby Dawson, Tom Belso] An Fear Beag (2307 points) 13 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Bob Weighton, Chris Doleman, Daniel Arap Moi, David Hagen, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, John Lewis, Kirk Douglas, Pat Smullen, Roberta MCCain, Terry Jones] drol (2293 points) 14 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Daniel Arap Moi, David Hagen, Dennis Goldberg, Genesis P-Orridge, John Andretti, Lee Kerslake, Majek Fashek, Qaboos of Oman, Pat Smullen, Roger Scruton, Shin-Kyuk-ho, Sumner Redstone] Prophet (2272 points) 12 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Daniel Arap Moi, Frankie Benali, John Andretti, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Nobby Stiles, Olivi De Haviland. Roger Scruton, Vera Lynn, William Frankland] the_engineer (2257 points) 12 hits [Alex Trebek, Arnold Spielberg, Chris Doleman, Dennis Goldberg, Jill Gascoigne, John Andretti, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Nobby Stiles, Olivia De Havviland, Roberta McCain, Roger Scuton] Death Impends (2189 points) 12 hits [Alex Trebek, Diana Sera Carey, Earl Cameron, Javier Perez de Cuellar, John Hume, Lyon G Tyler Jr, Mad Mike Hoare, Pearl Carr, Roberta McCain, Stirling Moss, Sumner Redstone, William Frankland] Joey Russ (2181 points) 15 hits [Alex Trebek, Chitetsu Wantabe, Daniel Arap Moi, Genesis P-Orridge, Jill Gascoigne, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Little Richard, Nobby Stiles, Roberta McCain, Roger Scruton, Stirling Moss, Terry Jones, Tommy DeVito, Vera Lynn) The Old Crem (2116 points) 11 hits [Alex Trebek, Jill Gascoigne, John Hume, John Lewis, Kirk Douglas, Nicholas Parsons, Nobby Stiles, Olivia de Haviland, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stirling Moss, Vera Lynn] Torva Messor (2108 points) 10 hits Alex Trebek, [Diana Sera Carey, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, Hugh Downs, Nobby Stiles, Olivia de Haviland Kirk Douglas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Vera Lynn] msc (2067 points) 11 hits [Chuck Yeager, Earl Cameron, Freeman Dyson, Kirk Douglas, Nicholas Parsons, Olivia de Haviland, Peregrine Worsthorne, Ronald Atkins, Sumner Redstone, Vera Lynn, William Frankland] MIDDLE OF THE ROADERS markb4 (1849 points) 9 hits [Alex Trebek, Christopher Tolkein, Chuck Yeager Javier Perez de Cuellar, Kirk Douglas, Nicholas Parsons, Roberta McCain, Ruth Bader Ginsburg Vera Lynn] The Quim Reaper (1715 points) 11 hits [Javier Perez de Cuellar, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Little Richard, Nicholas Parsons, Nobby Stiles, Olivia de Haviland, Stirling Moss, Terry Jones, , Valery Giscard D’Estang, Vera Lynn] LizLemon (1651 points) 8 hits [Alex Trebek, Jerry Stiller, Kirk Douglas, John Lewis, Olivia de Haviland, Roberta McCain, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sumner Redstone] gcreptile (1643 points) 11 hits [Alex Trebek, Bob Gibson, Bob Joers, Danny Oosthuizen, Frankie Benali, John Jhairo Valezquez, Karen Simpson, Lee Kerslake, Pat Smullen, Peter Bonetti, Todd Portune] theoldlady (1635 points) 10 hits [Alex Trebek, Daniel Arap Moi, David Prowse, Ennio Morricone, Henry Gray, Javier Perez de Cuellar, Kirk Douglas, Nobby Stiles, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stirling Moss] RadGuy (1548 points) 10 hits [Alex Trebek, Frankie Benali, John Andretti, Lee Kerslake, Michael Robinson, Nanci Ryder, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sam Lloyd, Terry Jones, Tom Long] Sean (1427 points) 10 hits [Alex Trebek, Everton Weekes, Javier Perez de Cuellar, John Hume, John Lewis, Kirk Douglas, Nicholas Parsons, Olivia de Haviland, Terry Jones, Vera Lynn] Etib80 (1421 points) 6 hits [Alex Trebek, Kirk Douglas, Olivia de Haviland, Pierre Cardin Valerie Giscard D’Estang Vera Lynn] Sir Creep (1329 points) 12 hits [Balbir Singh Sr, Daniel Arap Moi, Deanne Sutherland, Frankie Benali, Henry Gray, Ignatio Trelles, Jay Allen, John Andretti, Kirk Douglas, Henri Richard, Paul Rutter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg] Fixed Business (1323 points) 7 hits [Alex Trebek, Daniel Arap Moi, Genesis P-Orridge, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Nobby Stiles, Sean Connery] The Mad Hatter (1296 points) 12 hits [Daniel Arap Moi, David Dinkins, Genesis P-Orridge, Ian Holm, Jimmy Heath, John Andretti, John Hume, Kirk Douglas, Little Richard, Olivia de Haviland, Roger Scruton, Terry Jones] Great Uncle Bulgaria (1198 points) 7 hits [Alex Trebek, Daniel Arap Moi, Kirk Douglas, Roberta Mc Cain, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stirling Moss, Vera Lynn] Wormfarmer (1173 points) 9 hits [Daniel Arap Moi, David Stern, Frankie Benali, Genesis P-Orridge, James Randi, Kirk Douglas, Lee Kerslake, Majek Fashek, William Frankland] YorkshireBanker (1161 points) 9 hits [Alex Trebek, Bobby Brown (rangers), Daniel Arap Moi, Freeman Dyson, Henry Gray, Johnny Beattie, Katherine Johnson, Vasily Kulkov, Vera Lynn] YoungWillz (1023 points) 5 hits [David Prowse, Earl Cameron, Geoffrey Palmer, Nicholas Parsons, Philip Latham] Toast (1000 points) 7 hits [Ian Holm, Judy Dyble, Michael Lonsdale, Michael Medwin, Pearl Carr, Stirling Moss, Vera Lynn] MUST TRY HARDERS JoeMoneyPenny (894 points) 6 hits [Everton Weekes, Genesis P-Orridge, Hau Pie-tsen, Manolis Glezos, Stanley Ho, Vera Lynn] GraveDanger (862 points) 6 hits [Chris Doleman, Genesis P-Orridge, Lee Kerslake, Jill Gascoigne, John Andretti, Nobby Stiles] Pedro67 (845 points) 5 hits [Jackie Stallone Kirk Douglas, Nanci Ryder, Ronald Atkins, Terry Jones] Clorox Bleachman (843 points) 6 hits [Chitetsu Wantabe, David Hagen, Irene Sinclair, Lee Kerslake, John Andretti Thuy Thuanh Trong] Whoaml (813 points) 8 hits [Jean Kennedy Smith, John Andretti, John Lysak, Katherine Johnson, Kirk Douglas, Marge Champion, Olivia de Haviland,Terry Jones] Predictor (790 points) 5 hits [Ben Cooper, Francisco Jose Cox, Joey Image, Kevin Thompson, Shirley Abrahamson] Skinny Kiltrunner (777 points) 7 hits [Bernard Ebbers, Bob Watson, Chris Doleman, Frankie Benali, John Andretti, Nobuhiko Obayashi, Sumner Redstone] THE "ALL THAT WORK AND SO LITTLE REWARD"-ERS Book (604 points) 4 hits [Gotthilf Fischer, Hannelore Minkus, Michel Picolli, Sonja Ziemann] Bibliogryphon (287 points ) 1 hit [Herbert Kretzmer] And finally ...... THE "INVENTED THE GAME BUT IS STILL CRAP AT IT" AWARD (formerly held by the English football team) Deathray 0 points A fitting end to 7 years of hosting the pool, I'm sure you would all agree. Its what he would have wanted. Well, if you do insist on picking Keith Richards in a deathpool, what do you expect? A few other mentions and awards: CAPTAIN CHORIZO also beat the previous record of hits, and jointly hold the record of 17. Ultimately undone however by a combination of no joker hit, and not enough big scoring late hits. AWARD FOR MOST POINTS PER HIT (MIN 5 HITS): NANTONIAN2013. 10 hits 2524 points - a remarkable 252.4 points per hit THE "CAME TOO SOON" AWARD FOR FEWEST POINTS PER HIT: WHOAM. 8 hits, 5 of them in JAN/FEB. 813 points - 101.6 points per hit 5 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted January 13, 2021 Well done Jiroemon! The international perspective has really shined here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,766 Posted January 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said: The real deal-breaker however was that joker Tom Smith refused to go. Of the 17 hits, 13 would have given Grim the title had they been selected as the joker. Superb end of season review AFB (no risk of spelling mistakes if I abbreviate ). In 4 years of entering the Hares I have won once and now been third but I've never yet had my joker die. The joker for 2021 is Tom Smith again. Congratulations Jiroeman - incredible score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,426 Posted January 13, 2021 Nice summary AFB, and bloody nice score Jiro! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theoldlady 2,336 Posted January 15, 2021 Congratulations @JiroemonKimura Very well done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
