Dying Off The Radar

[Ulitzer95 12,431]

16 minutes ago, TheKeysOfMarinus said:

Anyone know if Anne Wakefield is still with us? She's an actress born 1931; she had a few film and TV bit parts in the UK and later the US, playing William Hartnell's daughter in an episode of Ghost Squad and one of the nuns opposite Debbie Reynolds in The Singing Nun. Not likely to obit anywhere really.

Yes, she's alive.

Born Anne Veronica Wakefield in 1931. Later became Veronica Crawford after marrying actor John Crawford. Following their divorce she became Anne Richardson and attained U.S. citizenship in California according to Ancestry.

Britain's National Portrait Gallery has a page for her and there's a comment which reads "Anne Wakefield is alive and living in Newbury Park, California. She is currently writing screenplays. In May, 2020 she will be visiting Guernsey where she was born and raised."

[Spade_Cooley 9,474]

The designer Gerald Gulotta, who has items currently on exhibit in the V&A, Brooklyn Museum and the Smithsonian, died in 2018 without any news coverage. The first two museums still list him as alive in their bios as well.

[Bobytomi 83]

There are rumors that the actor Douglas Fisher died on April 7, 2022 at the age of 87, this rumor was in comments from people on networks who said that he had died, but it seems that the origin of this rumor began with an edition that was reverted in their fandom, it seems like a bizarre case in my opinion, but I'm wondering if there is any way to verify if this person is actually alive or if he died off the radar and didn't get any media coverage?

https://imaginationmovers.fandom.com/wiki/Douglas_Fisher?action=history

[Gisooo 3,259]

14 minutes ago, Bobytomi said:

There are rumors that the actor Douglas Fisher died on April 7, 2022 at the age of 87, this rumor was in comments from people on networks who said that he had died, but it seems that the origin of this rumor began with an edition that was reverted in their fandom, it seems like a bizarre case in my opinion, but I'm wondering if there is any way to verify if this person is actually alive or if he died off the radar and didn't get any media coverage?

https://imaginationmovers.fandom.com/wiki/Douglas_Fisher?action=history

 

Just search Douglas Fisher obituary and here you are

 

https://www.weremember.com/douglas-fisher/3d3c/memories

[Ulitzer95 12,431]

36 minutes ago, Bobytomi said:

There are rumors that the actor Douglas Fisher died on April 7, 2022 at the age of 87, this rumor was in comments from people on networks who said that he had died, but it seems that the origin of this rumor began with an edition that was reverted in their fandom, it seems like a bizarre case in my opinion, but I'm wondering if there is any way to verify if this person is actually alive or if he died off the radar and didn't get any media coverage?

https://imaginationmovers.fandom.com/wiki/Douglas_Fisher?action=history

Why would you expect media coverage?

He seems to be a complete nobody.

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1 hour ago, Gisooo said:

 

Just search Douglas Fisher obituary and here you are

 

https://www.weremember.com/douglas-fisher/3d3c/memories

 

He seems to have made an impressive recovery from being dead to appear in an episode of Palm Royale earlier this year

 

[Gisooo 3,259]

3 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said:

 

He seems to have made an impressive recovery from being dead to appear in an episode of Palm Royale earlier this year

 

 

Maybe it was filmed before he died, I have no idea, but I see many actors like him who died before the movie/series was released

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8 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

 

Maybe it was filmed before he died, I have no idea, but I see many actors like him who died before the movie/series was released

Wikipedia (I know it's not the best source) is saying filming started in May 2022, so a month after the reported death date.

[Bobytomi 83]

I kind of don't trust that obituary much because it is linked to find a grave where anyone can create tributes to people, and curiously that tribute was created on October 30, 2023, 1 year after the rumors of his death began, which I can believe was done through a missinformation, and now with that film that began filming in May 2022 it gives more strength to my theory that Douglas Fisher is alive.

[Gisooo 3,259]

American child actress Baby Sandy (Wiki), was one of the last surviving child actresses from Golden Age of Hollywood and one of the last who appeared during the 1930s era.

 

Born on 1938, she appeared as a baby in films like East Side of Heaven, Bachelor Daddy, Sandy as a Lady, Unexpected Father etc. In the late 1930s and early 1940s, Baby Sandy was Universal's answer to Shirley Temple, and after appearances in a few films, she was given her own series. Her career was over before she was 5, and then she became a legal secretary.

 

Baby Sandy died completely off radar on January 16, 2024, at the age of 86 in East Flat Rock, North Carolina.

 

 

 

 

 

[Gisooo 3,259]

American actor Steve Kahan (Wiki), best known for playing Captain Ed Murphy in the all four Lethal Weapon film series, died off radar on August 4, 2019, at the age of 79 in Sherman Oaks, Los Angeles, CA.

 

Born on August 6, 1939, he also made appearances in other movies like Superman, Free Willy 2: The Adventures Home, Scrooged, Timeline and in TV Shows like: Falcon Crest, Murder She Wrote, Matlock, Hart to Hart and Simon & Simon.

 

 

 

[Ulitzer95 12,431]

12 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

American actor Steve Kahan (Wiki), best known for playing Captain Ed Murphy in the all four Lethal Weapon film series, died off radar on August 4, 2019, at the age of 79 in Sherman Oaks, Los Angeles, CA.

 

Born on August 6, 1939, he also made appearances in other movies like Superman, Free Willy 2: The Adventures Home, Scrooged, Timeline and in TV Shows like: Falcon Crest, Murder She Wrote, Matlock, Hart to Hart and Simon & Simon.

Will try and get this updated on his Wiki. Where did you find his full name and date of birth?

[Gisooo 3,259]

Just now, Ulitzer95 said:

Will try and get this updated on his Wiki. Where did you find his full name and date of birth?

 

On the 1940 census, there is a 0-year-old Steve Kahan living in New York, with his older sister Judith and his parents Saul Kahan and Frances Horowitz. This Kahan was son of Saul Kahan and Frances Horowitz. Richard Donner was the son of Fred Schwartzberg and Hattie Horowitz. Frances and Hattie were the daughters of Joseph Horowitz and Ida Epstein, so, obviously, this makes this Steve Kahan the cousin of Richard Donner, and the actor.

 

Steve Kahan's sister Judith married in the late 1950s and became Judith Whitesman. While looking her up, I found out that in January 2020, a lawsuit was filed in LA by Judith Whitesman titled "Kahan v. Terraza of Cheviot Hills". I can't access all those PDFs, but they were summed up here:

 

In another matter, she represented an assisted living facility where resident Stephen Kahan died after a fall. Family members sued for medical malpractice and dependent elder abuse. Kahan v. Terraza of Cheviot Hills et al., 20STCV0- 2843 (L.A. Super. Ct., filed Jan. 23, 2020).

 

A big thank to @tracy for this information.

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Seems like Fred Jay Barnett of 1960s rock band The Crusaders (later The Love Exchange) passed away in July.

[Ulitzer95 12,431]

Only noticed this one as her Wiki page was recently updated:

Dr. Sylvia Jackson (wiki), Scottish Labour MSP from 1999 to 2007, died from cancer in July 2022, aged 75.

At least 23 / 134 MSPs who sat in the 1999 Scottish Parliament are now dead. May be a couple more if they're dying with little notice.

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31 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

At least 23 / 134 MSPs who sat in the 1999 Scottish Parliament are now dead. May be a couple more if they're dying with little notice.

Makes sense that they would die off the radar if not particularly notable for other reasons. I know a lot of politically inclined individuals, even Scottish nationalists, and they could maybe name a handful of MSPs from that sitting that weren't frontbench. Unlikely that most papers would care either.

[Gisooo 3,259]

On 21/03/2021 at 21:04, arghton said:

Here's a list of alive Hitchcock actors:

 

1940s:

Saboteur 1942: None alive after the death of Norman Lloyd (1914-2021)

Shadow of Doubt 1943: Edna May Wonacott (born 1932) and Charles Bates (born 1935)

Spellbound 1945: None alive after the death of Norman Lloyd (1914-2021)

 

I'm affraid to say that American child actress Edna May Wonacott (Wiki) has died off radar.

 

Unfortunately there is no record to verify her death there, but considering her profile (retired since 50s), it could be true. She was active 10 years ago through interviews as how the nine-year-old caught the eye of Alfred Hitchcock while he was in town checking out exterior locations and prepping to make his film Shadow of a Doubt (1943), while she was on a street corner with her two cousins waiting for a bus. Married Robert Green until his death in 2008, she lived her life in Yuma, AZ. Someone edited her Wiki, some hours ago, saying she died on June 26, 2022 at the age of 90 (and also says according to her son Tracy Green). I don't think it's vandalism, considering the autographs she signed very rarely in StarTiger (the last  autograph was given in 2021) and since then silence.

 

My question is, @tracy if you can see her familytree please, does Edna have a child named Tracy Green?

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

 

I'm affraid to say that American child actress Edna May Wonacott (Wiki) has died off radar.

 

Unfortunately there is no record to verify her death there, but considering her profile (retired since 50s), it could be true. She was active 10 years ago through interviews as how the nine-year-old caught the eye of Alfred Hitchcock while he was in town checking out exterior locations and prepping to make his film Shadow of a Doubt (1943), while she was on a street corner with her two cousins waiting for a bus. Married Robert Green until his death in 2008, she lived her life in Yuma, AZ. Someone edited her Wiki, some hours ago, saying she died on June 26, 2022 at the age of 90 (and also says according to her son Tracy Green). I don't think it's vandalism, considering the autographs she signed very rarely in StarTiger (the last  autograph was given in 2021) and since then silence.

 

My question is, @tracy if you can see her familytree please, does Edna have a child named Tracy Green?

 

 

For what it's worth, this old blog post from 2010 has a Tracy Green calling her his mother in the comments and another one mentioning they babysat her three sons, one of which was named Tracy.

[Ulitzer95 12,431]

58 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

 

I'm affraid to say that American child actress Edna May Wonacott (Wiki) has died off radar.

 

Unfortunately there is no record to verify her death there, but considering her profile (retired since 50s), it could be true. She was active 10 years ago through interviews as how the nine-year-old caught the eye of Alfred Hitchcock while he was in town checking out exterior locations and prepping to make his film Shadow of a Doubt (1943), while she was on a street corner with her two cousins waiting for a bus. Married Robert Green until his death in 2008, she lived her life in Yuma, AZ. Someone edited her Wiki, some hours ago, saying she died on June 26, 2022 at the age of 90 (and also says according to her son Tracy Green). I don't think it's vandalism, considering the autographs she signed very rarely in StarTiger (the last  autograph was given in 2021) and since then silence.

 

My question is, @tracy if you can see her familytree please, does Edna have a child named Tracy Green?

 

 

Plot twist: @tracy is Tracy Green  

[DoorSlammer 542]

I might be reaching, but regarding Wonacott, seems this Wikipedia edit from 28 June 2022 was real after all. We just disregarded it because it said 2020. But what if the second 0 was a typo and it was supposed to be a 2 instead? That would turn it into 25 June 2022, only one day off her supposed day of death.

 

Also, fellow Shadow of a Doubt child actor Charles Bates (wiki) was edited the 18th that he died 'sometime in 2024', but that's probably a better one for the Wikipedia thread.

[Ulitzer95 12,431]

1 hour ago, DoorSlammer said:

I might be reaching, but regarding Wonacott, seems this Wikipedia edit from 28 June 2022 was real after all. We just disregarded it because it said 2020. But what if the second 0 was a typo and it was supposed to be a 2 instead? That would turn it into 25 June 2022, only one day off her supposed day of death.

 

Also, fellow Shadow of a Doubt child actor Charles Bates (wiki) was edited the 18th that he died 'sometime in 2024', but that's probably a better one for the Wikipedia thread.

Urgh, this is a mess. Why can't families release death notices for notable relatives?

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12 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Urgh, this is a mess. Why can't families release death notices for notable relatives?

Almost like not everyone shares our peculiar hobby. 

[tracy 2,378]

3 hours ago, DoorSlammer said:

Also, fellow Shadow of a Doubt child actor Charles Bates (wiki) was edited the 18th that he died 'sometime in 2024', but that's probably a better one for the Wikipedia thread.

 

Charles Bates died in May 2023, per Endato:

 

I assume that IP is probably dumb/a troll, given their moronic edits to Susan Blanchard's article. Still, I figured there was no harm in checking the records again, given my previous Charles Bates post is almost a year old, and he seemed a likely candidate to die off radar at some point.

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Betty Impey, British actress married to actor and screenwriter John Chapman, said to have died in 1970 at the age of 39.

[Spade_Cooley 9,474]

This Chapman obituary from when he died in 2001 still lists her as alive at the time. Plus the IMDB page has her appearing in roles in the 1980s, and they don't appear to be the conflation of two actors with the same name...