YoungWillz 21,054 Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, YoungWillz said: The Rimshots. There's mention here that Tommy Keith was already dead by 2011. https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/212155-the-delites-lover-alternative-acetate-take/ More information. Transpires that he was born Norman Thomas Keith. http://doo-wop.blogg.org/the-delrays-aka-the-teen-kings-aka-the-delights-1-a116516736 and there are indications on the web that he was dead by 2003. This would tie in with this judgement when Keith's Estate was sued for copyright infringement: http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/03/times-under-17-usc-507-they-are.html and Keith's son Nathaniel Thomas Keith was acting as administrator of the Estate, subsequently successful in entering the suit: https://casetext.com/case/roberts-v-keith-4?q=S.D.N.Y. Mar. 7, 2006 roberts&PHONE_NUMBER_GROUP=C&sort=relevance&p=1&type=case&tab=keyword&jxs The original summons seems to have been served on Nathaniel as administrator at his home in Philadelphia in late 2004, however having read the judgements it doesn't appear that they actually refer to Norman Tommy Keith's date of death. Which is disappointing. Anyway, he dead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,653 Posted October 10, 2020 10 hours ago, YoungWillz said: The Modern Lovers. Ernie Brooks raised in New York and Connecticut. This article says he was in senior year at Harvard around 1971: https://ffanzeen.blogspot.com/2010/04/ernie-brooks-lover-looks-back-at-roots.html. Backed up by this article from WSJ from 2012 which indicates his age as then 62: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304724404577297761990013888 So born 1949/1950. Thanks! Found him. Ernest Brooks III b. 28 Sep 1949 Has been a resident of NYC, Astoria and Long Island. A quick Google reveals that the bass player has links to all those places. Discogs even has "Ernest Brooks III" listed under AKAs. Added. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,653 Posted October 10, 2020 6 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: Ok, so this is where I get called a stalker but let's just leave it at this being an object lesson of what can be found online with surprisingly little determination. From his Facebook page, he's married to a woman called Jenny. On her page, there are photos with young kids and comments underneath thanking 'Grandad and Jenny'. Clicked this to another woman called Sturt. She married Robin Sturt in 2006 (10 years ago today! in 2016) and his 40th birthday was September 29th 2016. Easy enough... (On Ancestry, it narrows this down to October 1976, which makes sense given he was born so close to the end of the month). That gives me: STURT, Robert F m. SEARS, Christine P in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, Sept. 1972. Only two Robert Fs born remotely before that, 1938 is too early so I guess our guy is: Not sure about the County Durham link, but that all seems to check out. Jenny is a second (younger) wife. One down? Awesome, cheers. That's some level of digging. Added 1949. May reach out to him on FB for info on the other members when this website gets published. 45cat tends to confirm O'Mahony and Lovatt were members around that time (as they have writing and production credits on other releases). The spelling of their named tends to differ a lot though e.g. Lovett or Lovatt, O'Mohony or O'Mahony – not helpful! Nothing for Osborn sadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,653 Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, YoungWillz said: More information. Transpires that he was born Norman Thomas Keith. http://doo-wop.blogg.org/the-delrays-aka-the-teen-kings-aka-the-delights-1-a116516736 and there are indications on the web that he was dead by 2003. This would tie in with this judgement when Keith's Estate was sued for copyright infringement: http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2006/03/times-under-17-usc-507-they-are.html and Keith's son Nathaniel Thomas Keith was acting as administrator of the Estate, subsequently successful in entering the suit: https://casetext.com/case/roberts-v-keith-4?q=S.D.N.Y. Mar. 7, 2006 roberts&PHONE_NUMBER_GROUP=C&sort=relevance&p=1&type=case&tab=keyword&jxs The original summons seems to have been served on Nathaniel as administrator at his home in Philadelphia in late 2004, however having read the judgements it doesn't appear that they actually refer to Norman Tommy Keith's date of death. Which is disappointing. Anyway, he dead. Just spent about an hour trying to get to the bottom of this to no avail. I found him on a family tree on Ancestry. "Norman Thomas Keith" b. Philadelphia, d. Philadelphia. Not helpful! Bizarrely cannot find either his birth or death info in the records. His parents were James L Keith 1923–2011 and Iola "Ola" Keith nee Lamal 1923–2015, so both outlived him. His grandson is also called Nathaniel, he's a Philly rapper and is on Facebook. Mentions his grandfather Tommy in quite a few posts and even uploaded a pic of one of his platinum discs. He tends to suggest his father, Nathaniel has died. No other deets sadly. Grrrr... infuriating! Anyway, I've put Tommy Keith's dead as "before 2004" for now. Cheers YW! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Ulitzer95 said: Awesome, cheers. That's some level of digging. Added 1949. May reach out to him on FB for info on the other members when this website gets published. 45cat tends to confirm O'Mahony and Lovatt were members around that time (as they have writing and production credits on other releases). The spelling of their named tends to differ a lot though e.g. Lovett or Lovatt, O'Mohony or O'Mahony – not helpful! Nothing for Osborn sadly. Well I did some digging on the others but it's a bit more speculative and without any corroborating evidence it's pretty circumstantial but worth noting: Using Bob Sturt - b. Sept. q. 1949 in Islington, London as a starting point: Martin C. O'Mahony b. March q. 1951 in Shoreditch, London looks promising. If so, he's dead: Martin Christopher O'MAHONY d. Islington, London - July 1990 (aged 39 - DOB. 15th February 1951) Mike Lovatt - there's a Michael D. Lovatt b. Dec. q. 1946 in Islington, London which looks good for the year and area. Michael D. Lovatt married twice: (1) Patricia M. Moon - Dec. q. 1967 in Hastings, Sussex (2) Amanda Stait - March q. 1993 in Hastings and Rother, East Sussex Putting "Michael Lovatt Hastings" brought up this: http://www.checkcompany.co.uk/director/844577/MICHAEL-LOVATT which says he's a Coach Driver born in December 1946. The company he works for seems to be a property management company though, so not sure where the Coach Driver bit comes in. He was a director between 2002 and 2007 when he 'resigned', which in this case I assume means retired. Butch Osborn is much more difficult. Google suggests Butch is an old term for 'Junior', so if a father and son have the same name, the son will be known as Butch to differentiate. So it's likely he has the same name as his father, but what name that is would be tricky to tie down quickly without any information to narrow it down. Might be nothing to it, I've looked for Facebook profiles for Mike Lovatt without success, and without a picture of the band it's not much use anyway without a specific mention of the record. But as a work in progress it's a start. Bizarre just how forgotten they've been! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Ulitzer95 said: May reach out to him on FB for info on the other members when this website gets published. 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted October 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Putting "Michael Lovatt Hastings" brought up this: http://www.checkcompany.co.uk/director/844577/MICHAEL-LOVATT which says he's a Coach Driver born in December 1946. The company he works for seems to be a property management company though, so not sure where the Coach Driver bit comes in. He was a director between 2002 and 2007 when he 'resigned', which in this case I assume means retired. Looks like the management company is for the block of flats where he lives. It just means that he and other flatowners own the freehold of the building, in which case they have to register a company to manage it. The other people listed will be owners of the other flats. We had this with a flat I once owned; the freehold was offered for sale and we bought it between us so that we had control over the building. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Toast said: Looks like the management company is for the block of flats where he lives. It just means that he and other flatowners own the freehold of the building, in which case they have to register a company to manage it. The other people listed will be owners of the other flats. We had this with a flat I once owned; the freehold was offered for sale and we bought it between us so that we had control over the building. Ah, interesting, thanks for that. So, not a company director after all. But still, if it's the right guy - he ended up in Hastings and was still there in 2007. After that, who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted October 10, 2020 Well, he was a company director. He might have been the chairman, or the treasurer. "Company director" simply means that someone is a director of a company. It sounds important, like you're a tycoon , but it's often just a formality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Toast said: Well, he was a company director. He might have been the chairman, or the treasurer. "Company director" simply means that someone is a director of a company. It sounds important, like you're a tycoon , but it's often just a formality. Let me re-phrase: 'so, he's probably not sunning himself on his private yacht harboured just off the coast of tropical island somewhere then'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted October 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Let me re-phrase: 'so, he's probably not sunning himself on his private yacht harboured just off the coast of tropical island somewhere then'. Not if he's a coach driver, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,653 Posted October 13, 2020 R (part 4/4) Rokotto Discogs UK soul, disco and funk band from Dundee, Scotland, Bannon later became a member of pop group Middle of the Road, Wisdom had earlier been a member of The Bedrocks with his brother Trevor Stewart Garden no info available Derek Henderson Apr 1955 – Living Howard "Bongo" McLeod 16 Jul 19?? – Living Hugh Paul 28 Jan 1955 – 02 Jan 2013 (57) Mention of death Sister B (aka Lorna Bannon) 1959 – Living Cleveland Walker no info available Owen Wisdom Dec 1947 – Living 22/10/1977 Boogie on Up #40 10/06/1978 Funk Theory #49 NB: Garden was from Perth according to this. Annoyingly can't find him on Scotland's People (I've used both the spelling of Stewart and Stuart). The Rolling Stones Wiki UK rock band from London, at the forefront of bands popular in the States during the British Invasion, their music is rooted in blues and early rock and roll, inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1989 and UK Music Hall of Fame in 2004, their record sales worldwide exceed 240 million copies, original guitarist Brian Jones drowned under unclear circumstances in July 1969 Mick Jagger 26 Jul 1943 – Living Brian Jones 28 Feb 1942 – 03 Jul 1969 (27) Keith Richards 18 Dec 1943 – Living Ian Stewart 18 Jul 1938 – 12 Dec 1985 (47) Rolling Stone obit Mick Taylor 17 Jan 1949 – Living Charlie Watts 02 Jun 1941 – 24 Aug 2021 (80) Guardian obit Ronnie Wood 01 Jun 1947 – Living Bill Wyman 24 Oct 1936 – Living 24/04/1971 Brown Sugar / Bitch / Let it Rock #2 Let it Rock was originally a single by Chuck Berry 03/07/1971 Street Fighting Man #21 Recorded in 1968 29/04/1972 Tumbling Dice #5 01/09/1973 Angie #5 Speculated to have been written about Angie Bowie née Barnett (b. 1949), who was married to David Bowie between 1970 and 1980 03/08/1974 It's Only Rock 'n Roll (but I Like it) #10 20/09/1975 Out of Time #45 Originally released as a track on their album Aftermath, covered and popularised by Chris Farlowe in 1966 01/05/1976 Fool to Cry #6 03/06/1978 Miss You / Far Away Eyes #3 30/09/1978 Respectable #23 Linda Ronstadt 15 Jul 1946 – Living Wiki American rock, pop, country and folk singer-songwriter, guitarist and record producer from Tucson, Arizona, retired in 2011 after announcing that she was no longer able to sing due to a degenerative condition, inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2014 08/05/1976 Tracks of My Tears #42 28/01/1978 Blue Bayou #35 26/05/1979 Alison #66 Rose Royce Wiki American soul and R&B group from Los Angeles, California, formed in 1973 Kenji Brown c. 1957 – Living Kenny Copeland 01 May 1955 – Living Gwen "Rose" Dickey 01 Dec 1953 – Living Freddie Dunn no info available Henry Garner no info available Lequeint "Duke" Jobe 11 Sep 1956 – Living Michael Moore no info available Michael Nash 10 Mar 1944 – Living Victor Nix 08 May 1956 – Living Terry Santiel 17 Jun 1954 – Living 25/12/1976 Car Wash #9 22/01/1977 Put Your Money Where Your Mouth is #44 02/04/1977 I Wanna Get Next to You #14 24/09/1977 Do Your Dance #30 14/01/1978 Wishing on a Star #3 06/05/1978 It Makes You Feel Like Dancin' #16 16/09/1978 Love Don't Live Here Anymore #2 03/02/1979 I'm in Love (and I Love the Feeling) #51 17/11/1979 Is it Love You're After #13 NB: The only DOB available online was Dickey's. The rest I had to find via Facebook and Ancestry. They all seem to be still living, which should be surprising for a group that size? Diana Ross 26 Mar 1944 – Living Wiki American singer, actress and record producer from Detroit, Michigan, a member of vocal group The Supremes before going solo, has won a Grammy and an Academy Award and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 as a member of The Supremes, listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as "the most successful female singer of all time" 21/03/1970 Why (Must We Fall in Love) #31 Released as Diana Ross and The Supremes and The Temptations 18/07/1970 Reach Out and Touch (Somebody's Hand) #33 12/09/1970 Ain't No Mountain High Enough #6 Cover of a single by Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell 03/04/1971 Remember Me #7 31/07/1971 I'm Still Waiting #1 30/10/1971 Surrender #10 13/05/1972 Doobedood'ndoobe, Doobedood'ndoobe, Doobedood'ndoo #12 14/07/1973 Touch Me in the Morning #9 05/01/1974 All of My Life #9 23/03/1974 You are Everything #5 Released as Diana Ross & Marvin Gaye / Cover of a single by The Stylistics 04/05/1974 Last Time I Saw Him #35 20/07/1974 Stop, Look, Listen (to Your Heart) #25 Released as Diana Ross & Marvin Gaye / Cover of a single by The Stylistics 24/08/1974 Baby Love (re-release) #12 Released as Diana Ross and The Supremes 28/09/1974 Love Me #38 29/03/1975 Sorry Doesn't Always Make it Right #23 03/04/1976 Theme From Mahogany (Do You Know Where You're Going to) #5 Featured in the 1975 film Mahogany 24/04/1976 Love Hangover #10 10/07/1976 I Thought it Took a Little Time (but Today I Fell in Love) #32 16/10/1976 I'm Still Waiting (re-release) #41 19/11/1977 Gettin' Ready For Love #23 22/07/1978 Lovin', Livin' and Givin' #54 Featured in the 1978 film Thank God It's Friday 18/11/1978 Ease on Down the Road #45 Released as Diana Ross & Michael Jackson / Cover of a single by Consumer Rapport / Featured in the 1978 film The Wiz 24/02/1979 Pops, We Love You (A Tribute to Father) #66 Released as Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson and Stevie Wonder / Recorded in honour of the 90th birthday of Motown Founder Berry Gordy's father, who died later that year from cancer 21/07/1979 The Boss #40 06/10/1979 No One Gets the Prize #59 24/11/1979 It's My House #32 Demis Roussos 15 Jun 1946 – 25 Jan 2015 (68) Guardian obit Wiki Egyptian-born Greek singer and instrumentalist from Alexandria, was previously a member of progressive rock group Aphrodite's Child 22/11/1975 Happy to be on an Island in the Sun #5 28/02/1976 Can't Say How Much I Love You #35 26/06/1976 The Roussos Phenomenon EP #1 02/10/1976 When Forever has Gone #2 19/03/1977 Because #39 18/06/1977 Kyrila EP #33 Roxy Music Wiki UK rock band from Newcastle upon Tyne/London, frontman Bryan Ferry also had a successful solo career and was awarded a CBE in 2011, bassist John Gustafson was also a member of The Big Three, bassist John Wetton was also a member of Family, lead guitarist Phil Manzanera received an OBE in 2024, inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2019 Paul Carrack 22 Apr 1951 – Living Brian Eno 15 May 1948 – Living Bryan Ferry 26 Sep 1945 – Living John Gustafson 08 Aug 1942 – 11 Sep 2014 (72) Ultimate Classic Rock obit Eddie Jobson 28 Apr 1955 – Living Rik Kenton 31 Oct 1945 – Living Andy Mackay 23 Jul 1946 – Living Phil Manzanera 31 Jan 1951 – Living John Porter 11 Sep 1947 – Living Alan Spenner 07 May 1948 – 11 Aug 1991 (43) Mention of death Paul Thompson 13 May 1951 – Living Gary Tibbs 25 Jan 1958 – Living John Wetton 12 Jun 1949 – 31 Jan 2017 (67) Telegraph obit 19/08/1972 Virginia Plain #4 10/03/1973 Pyjamarama #10 17/11/1973 Street Life #9 12/10/1974 All I Want is You #12 11/10/1975 Love is the Drug #2 27/12/1975 Both Ends Burning #25 22/10/1977 Virginia Plain (re-release) #11 03/03/1979 Trash #40 28/04/1979 Dance Away #2 11/08/1979 Angel Eyes #4 NB: Wetton only played on the b-side of the single All I Want is You Pipes and Drums and Military Band of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards Discogs (Pipes and Drums) / Discogs (Military) UK military collaboration, the Pipes and Drums Band was originally formed in 1920 and recognised by 1947, the Military Band was formed in 1971 with the amalgamation of the Royal Scots Greys and the 3rd Carabiniers and eventually disbanded in 1995 01/04/1972 Amazing Grace #1 19/08/1972 Heykens Serenade / The Day is Ended #30 02/12/1972 Little Drummer Boy #13 The Rubettes Wiki UK pop rock band, formed in 1974 and disbanded in 1980, later active 1982–1999 and since 2000 Pete Arnesen 25 Aug 1945 – Living Mick Clarke 10 Aug 1946 – Living Bill Hurd 11 Aug 1947 – Living John Richardson 03 May 1947 – Living Tony Thorpe 20 Jul 1945 – Living Alan Williams 22 Dec 1948 – Living 04/05/1974 Sugar Baby Love #1 13/07/1974 Tonight #12 16/11/1974 Juke Box Jive #3 08/03/1975 I Can do it #7 21/06/1975 Foe-Dee-O-Dee #15 22/11/1975 Little Darling #30 01/05/1976 You're the Reason Why #28 25/09/1976 Under One Roof #40 12/02/1977 Baby I Know #10 Bruce Ruffin 17 Feb 1952 – Living Wiki Jamaican rocksteady and reggae singer-songwriter from St. Catherine 01/05/1971 Rain #19 24/06/1972 Mad About You #9 David Ruffin 18 Jan 1941 – 01 Jun 1991 (50) NY Times obit Wiki American soul singer from Whynot, Mississippi, best known as a member of The Temptations, younger brother of singer Jimmy Ruffin, died from a crack cocaine overdose in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in June 1991 17/01/1976 Walk Away From Love #10 Jimmy Ruffin 07 May 1936 – 17 Nov 2014 (78) Guardian obit Wiki American soul singer from Collinsville, Mississippi, signed to Motown Records, he was the elder brother of David Ruffin of The Temptations 28/02/1970 Farewell is a Lonely Sound #8 04/07/1970 I'll Say Forever My Love #7 17/10/1970 It's Wonderful (to be Loved by You) #6 27/07/1974 What Becomes of the Brokenhearted (re-release) #4 02/11/1974 Farewell is a Lonely Sound (re-release) #30 16/11/1974 Tell Me What You Want #39 Todd Rundgren 22 Jun 1948 – Living Wiki American singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist and record producer from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, frontman of the rock band Utopia and considered to be a pioneer in electronic music, progressive rock and music videos 30/06/1973 I Saw the Light #36 Rush Wiki Canadian rock band from Toronto, Ontario, formed in 1968 and disbanded in 2018, have sold more than 40 million albums worldwide as of 2017, inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame in 1994 and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2013 Geddy Lee 29 Jul 1953 – Living Alex Lifeson 27 Aug 1953 – Living Neil Peart 12 Sep 1952 – 07 Jan 2020 (67) Guardian obit 11/02/1978 Closer to the Heart #36 The Rutles Wiki UK rock band, formed in 1975 and disbanded in 1978, later active between 1996–1997 and 2002–2019, a parody of The Beatles, originally created by Neil Innes and Eric Idle for the BBC television programme Rutland Weekend Television, Eric Idle is best known as a member of the Monty Python comedy troupe, Ricky Fataar had earlier been a member of The Beach Boys, Neil Innes was earlier a member of The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band Ricky Fataar 05 Sep 1952 – Living John Halsey 23 Feb 1945 – Living Eric Idle 29 Mar 1943 – Living Neil Innes 09 Dec 1944 – 29 Dec 2019 (75) Guardian obit 15/04/1978 I Must be in Love #39 The Ruts Wiki UK punk rock band from London, formed in 1977 and disbanded in 1983, later reunited in 2007, frontman Malcolm Owen was found dead from a heroin overdose in the bathroom of his parents' house in July 1980 Paul Fox 11 Apr 1951 – 21 Oct 2007 (56) Guardian obit John "Segs" Jennings 04 May 1956 – Living Malcolm Owen 12 Dec 1953 – 14 Jul 1980 (26) Mention of death David Ruffy 23 Mar 1952 – Living 16/06/1979 Babylon's Burning #7 08/09/1979 Something That I Said #29 Barry Ryan 24 Oct 1948 – 28 Sep 2021 (72) Obit Wiki UK pop singer from Leeds, West Riding of Yorkshire, before going solo he was one half of the duo Paul and Barry Ryan with his twin brother, son of pop singer Marion Ryan 21/02/1970 Magical Spiel #49 16/05/1970 Kitsch #37 15/01/1972 Can't Let You Go #32 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted October 13, 2020 Amazed to find out the songs I most recognise Demis Roussos and Roxy Music for both never charted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted October 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: The Rolling Stones .................. 01/09/1973 Angie #5 A tribute to Angie Bowie née Barnett (b. 1949), who was married to David Bowie between 1970 and 1980 I think that's a myth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,653 Posted October 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, Toast said: I think that's a myth. You’re correct, it’s a rumour. I’ve edited the line. Should know better than to copy directly from the Collins Complete UK Hit Singles book by now. It’s choke full of errors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted October 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: You’re correct, it’s a rumour. I’ve edited the line. Should know better than to copy directly from the Collins Complete UK Hit Singles book by now. It’s choke full of errors. Indeed, so when you get to 90's charts be sure to treat Wonderwall the same way. Noel Gallagher, discussing his first wife, Meg, pointedly said "she thinks it's about her." Quite a few published sources claim it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,653 Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: Indeed, so when you get to 90's charts be sure to treat Wonderwall the same way. Noel Gallagher, discussing his first wife, Meg, pointedly said "she thinks it's about her." Quite a few published sources claim it is. Cheers. I will be finished the 70s by the end of November. The way things currently stand, I will not being doing 80s, 90s, 00s... for now. I might wait at least a year before jumping into the 80s. No rush for it because few musicians from that decade are dead or dying at this point. Also, doing 1952–1979 has been exhausting. Chews up so much of my time. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted October 13, 2020 Sods law something you started because of lockdown will end just in time for the second lockdown by looks of it! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Ulitzer95 said: Cheers. I will be finished the 70s by the end of November. The way things currently stand, I will not being doing 80s, 90s, 00s... for now. I might wait at least a year before jumping into the 80s. No rush for it because few musicians from that decade are dead or dying at this point. Also, doing 1952–1979 has been exhausting. Chews up so much of my time. I think, of all the research exercises ever undertaken on these forums, this thread is by far the most monumental effort. I've enjoyed reading all of it. Much respect @Ulitzer95. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted October 13, 2020 Except we already had at least 3 threads that encompassed everything posted herein. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted October 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sir Creep said: Except we already had at least 3 threads that encompassed everything posted herein. Oh fuck off. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, DevonDeathTrip said: I think, of all the research exercises ever undertaken on these forums, this thread is by far the most monumental effort. I've enjoyed reading all of it. Much respect @Ulitzer95. Indeed, and the tonnage of information will likely inform DDP picks next year. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted October 14, 2020 Oh aye and... Advance warning on this. When you get to T.Rex it'll be something of a nightmare because there are guest musicians and a changing line up throughout the career. Was just Googling to see if there's a one-stop shop page listing everything but can't find it. There's a list a few columns long for people appearing on the Dandy in the Underworld album which includes the final hits. It lists everyone but doesn't break it down track by track and the breakdown on the album credits - just looking at the inner sleeve on the vinyl - is a bit rudimentary. For example, the backing vocals of "Alialpha" on The Soul of My Suit (#42 and final hit in Bolan's lifetime) could be a cover for a few people. That said, the Wiki page on T.Rex does list the main players in each line-up and the likes of Miller Anderson, B.J. Cole and Herbie Flowers are all likely obitable on an average news day 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,653 Posted October 14, 2020 S (part 1/9) Sad Café Wiki UK rock band from Manchester, formed in 1976 and disbanded in 1990, later active in 1998, 2000 and since 2012, singer Paul Young was also a member of Mike + the Mechanics Vic Emerson c. Jan 1949 – 13 Oct 2018 (69) Guardian obit Dave Irving 18 Nov 19?? – Living Ashley Mulford 15 Apr 1955 – Living John Stimpson 1953 – 12 Sep 2021 (68) Mention of death Ian Wilson no info available Paul Young 17 Jun 1947 – 15 Jul 2000 (53) BBC obit 22/09/1979 Every Day Hurts #3 Carole Bayer Sager 08 Mar 1944 – Living Wiki American singer-songwriter from Manhattan, New York City, New York, married to songwriter Burt Bacharach between 1982 and 1991 28/05/1977 You're Moving Out Today #6 Sailor Wiki UK glam rock band, formed in 1973 and disbanded in 1978 Georg Kajanus 09 Feb 1946 – Living Henry Marsh 08 Dec 1948 – Living Phil Pickett 19 Nov 1946 – Living Grant Serpell 04 Feb 1944 – Living 06/12/1975 A Glass of Champagne #2 27/03/1976 Girls Girls Girls #7 19/02/1977 One Drink Too Many #35 St. Andrews Chorale Discogs UK church choir from St. Andrews, Scotland 14/02/1976 Cloud 99 #31 Cover of Soleado by the Daniel Sentacruz Ensemble, later popularised by Johnny Mathis who added English lyrics St. Cecelia Discogs UK band from Corby, Northamptonshire, formed in 1969 and originally a seven-piece band, their below single was banned by the BBC Keith Hancock no info available Ricky Moss no info available John Proctor c. 1946 – Living Graham Smith no info available Les Smith 1948 – May 2007 (~58) Mention of death 19/06/1971 Leap Up and Down (Wave Your Knickers in the Air) #12 Produced by Jonathan King who considers this to be the worst single he ever made Buffy Sainte-Marie 20 Feb 1941 – Living Wiki Canadian singer-songwriter, composer and record producer from Qu'Appelle Valley, Saskatchewan, abandoned as an infant, later emigrated to the United States, also known as an activist for the rights of indigenous people 17/07/1971 Soldier Blue #7 Featured in the 1970 film Soldier Blue 18/03/1972 I'm Gonna be a Country Girl Again #34 The Saints Wiki Australian punk rock band from Brisbane, Queensland, formed in 1973 Chris Bailey 29 Nov 1956 – 09 Apr 2022 (65) Telegraph obit Ivor Hay no info available Ed Kuepper 20 Dec 1955 – Living Algy Ward 11 Jul 1959 – 17 May 2023 (63) Obit 23/07/1977 This Perfect Day #34 Sakkarin (aka Jonathan King) 06 Dec 1944 – Living Wiki UK singer-songwriter and record producer from Marylebone, London, discovered and named Genesis in 1967, founded UK Records in 1972, produced songs for the Bay City Rollers and 10cc, convicted of sleeping with underage boys in the 1980s and sentenced to seven years in prison 03/04/1971 Sugar Sugar #12 Cover of a single by The Archies San Jose featuring Rodriguez Argentina (aka Rod Argent) 14 Jun 1945 – Living Wiki UK singer-songwriter, keyboardist, composer and record producer from St. Albans, Hertfordshire, also known for being a member of rock bands The Zombies and Argent, the below single was composed by theatre impresario Andrew Lloyd Webber (b. 1948) 17/06/1978 Argentine Melody (Cancion de Argentina) #14 Theme to the BBC television coverage of the 1978 FIFA World Cup in Argentina The San Remo Strings Wiki American orchestral studio group from Detroit, Michigan, active between 1965 and 1971, originally called The San Remo Golden Strings before moving to Motown Records 18/12/1971 Festival Time #39 The Sandpipers Wiki American easy listening vocal trio from California, they recorded in English, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and Tagalog Jim Brady 24 Aug 1944 – 05 May 2019 (74) Ancestry page Gary Duckworth no info available Richard Shoff 30 Apr 1944 – Living 27/11/1976 Hang on Sloopy #32 Cover of a single by The Vibrations, popularised by The McCoys Samantha Sang 05 Aug 1951 – Living Wiki Australian pop singer from Melbourne, real name Cheryl Lau Sang, relocated to the UK in 1969 where she worked with the Bee Gees before returning to Australia in 1975 04/02/1978 Emotion #11 Written by Barry Gibb and Robin Gibb of the Bee Gees / Features uncredited backing vocals by Barry Gibb Santa Esmeralda featuring Leroy Gomez Wiki American/French disco studio group composed of session musicians, despite the Spanish name it was created by French disco producer Raymond Donnez (aka Don Ray, 1942–2019), formed in 1977 and disbanded in 1983, Gomez quit to pursue a solo career in 1978 after disagreements around royalties and was replaced by Jimmy Goings Leroy Gomez 08 Jul 1950 – Living 12/11/1977 Don't Let Me be Misunderstood #41 Cover of a single by Nina Simone, popularised by The Animals NB: Can't find a lineup for this group, other than Gomez himself Santana Wiki American rock band from San Francisco, California, formed in 1966, one of the best selling bands of all-time with an estimated 100 million albums sold worldwide, inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 José Areas 25 Jul 1946 – Living David Brown 15 Feb 1947 – 04 Sep 2000 (53) Legacy obit Michael Carabello 18 Nov 1947 – Living Tom Coster 21 Aug 1941 – Living Pete Escovedo 13 Jul 1935 – Living Graham Lear 24 Jul 1949 – Living David Margen 14 Mar 1958 – Living Armando Peraza 30 May 1924 – 14 Apr 2014 (89) Independent obit Raul Rekow 10 Jun 1954 – 02 Nov 2015 (61) Ultimate Classic Rock obit Chris Rhyne 26 Jan 1952 – Living Gregg Rolie 17 Jun 1947 – Living Carlos Santana 20 Jul 1947 – Living Chris Solberg no info available Michael Shrieve 06 Jul 1949 – Living Greg Walker 30 Jan 1952 – Living 28/09/1974 Samba Pa Ti #27 15/10/1977 She's Not There #11 Cover of a single by The Zombies 25/11/1978 Well All Right #53 Cover of a single by Buddy Holly Joy Sarney 1944 – Living Wiki UK pop singer from Liverpool, real name Florence Joy Crabtree 07/05/1977 Naughty Naughty Naughty #26 Sarr Band Discogs UK/Italian disco studio group composed of session musicians 16/09/1978 Magic Mandrake #68 NB: Can't find a lineup for this group Robin Sarstedt 21 Jan 1944 – 22 Jan 2022 (78) Mention of death Wiki UK pop singer and instrumentalist, born in Ajmer, British India and later raised in Croydon, full name Clive Robin Sarstedt (and now known by the stage name of Clive Sarstedt), brother of pop singers Peter Sarstedt and Richard Sarstedt (better known as Eden Kane) 08/05/1976 My Resistance is Low #3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 15, 2020 On 13/10/2020 at 20:54, Ulitzer95 said: R (part 4/4) Rokotto Discogs UK soul, disco and funk band from Dundee, Scotland, Bannon later became a member of pop group Middle of the Road, Wisdom had earlier been a member of The Bedrocks with his brother Trevor Stewart Garden no info available Derek Henderson Apr 1955 – Living Howard "Bongo" McLeod 16 Jul 19?? – Living Hugh Paul n/a – deceased Mention of death Sister B (aka Lorna Bannon) 1959 – Living Cleveland Walker no info available Owen Wisdom Dec 1947 – Living 22/10/1977 Boogie on Up #40 10/06/1978 Funk Theory #49 NB: Garden was from Perth according to this. Annoyingly can't find him on Scotland's People (I've used both the spelling of Stewart and Stuart). Hugh Paul is dead according to that tweet – can't find anything else other than that mention. Assuming that Julie Baird was his wife, I tried to find him in the GRO with no luck. Cleveland Walker's son (also called Cleveland Walker) lives in Dundee and is on Facebook. Google reveals his father was active in a Barry White tribute band around 2007/2008. Not much trace of him since. Deceased? "Cleveland Walker" returns absolutely zilch on Scotland's People. Ok, so here is a record that I think is Hugh Paul's death on Ancestry. His wife Julie's Twitter is based in Tyneside and this death is in Tyne and Wear. Puts his birth in 1955 and his death in 2013, a year before that tweet. I don't have access to Scotland's People so can't do any digging there, but copious stalking of Cleveland Jr.'s Facebook page threw up links which led to this page for Howard McLeod. From there, I found this page for Derek Henderson, which contains this photo from 2017: Howard on the left, Cleveland second in (so still alive in 2017?), Derek and Owen Wisdom. Can't add much else since they're Scottish-based. Strange that Cleveland is nowhere to be seen in any pictures on his son's or ex-wife's Facebook pages. He's originally from the Caribbean - wonder if he's gone back? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites