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The nicest thing I can say about her is that she is still less frightening than anyone on the other side of US politics. She was bullying the Aussie givernment (not hard) when she was out here last month, though, which put her even lower in my estimation than she was before... Anyway, new year and new death list, so we shan't worry about politics today! I think Julia Gillard can stand up for herself. In a fight between her and Hills, I wouldn't want to say who would win. I like Hillary too. I think 'Bitch' is more than a little harsh as a sub-tag/-heading. Gillard is certainly the biggest bitch of the pair. You need only consider what she did to poor Ken Rudd... Bitch, cunt, whatever, the least she deserves is to have her name spelled correctly in the thread title. As does Kevin Rudd. If he was called Ken he would still be Prime Minister...

Going by what DJL said on Whitlam I'd say the US President who comes to mind the most is Grant. Mostly on the merit Grant is regarded as well intentioned - albeit not politically experienced - with, like Whitlam, a lousy cabinet.

He was the only PM to ever be sacked... He was before my time but he was a polarising figure. The majority opinion seems to be he had a lot of extremely good ideas that he tried to implement too quickly and his inept ministers bungled most of them. On thd other hand, there is a persistent rumour, reinstated most recently by the likes of John Pilger and Jean Bricmont, that the CIA played a part in the sacking of the Whitlam government as he was too anti-US for their liking... To put it in British terms, imagine an alternative history in which Wilson had bungled the finances and the budget had been blocked so Heath put pressure on and the Queen caved in and dismissed the Wilson government, triggering a fresh election which Heath wins convincingly, possibly with the blessing of the CIA and you can imagine how controversial the Whitlam dismissal was. By the way, Gough's immigration minister, Al Grassby, just happened to be a member of the Calabrian Mafia...

His record is almost as good as mine:

This is an easy one for me 31st August is Diana & Dodi Death Day. I am campaigning for it to be made a national holiday.

I think if we're realistic, Katie Price's hell wouldl be to be denied publicity and a healthy stream of young cocks to devour. That said i have yet to see proof that she's not actually the devil, or at least in league with him. She's the least attractive woman i've ever seen making a living off her body.

Don't count 41 out just yet. While he has been moved out of ICU, he is still an 88 year old wheelchair patient, who has been in the hospital over a month. Most likely, he will remain in the hospital, well into the New Year. This could well be another case similiar to Gerald Ford, in 2006. Ford was in and out of the hospital multiple times (with issues similiar to Bush), before dying quietly at home. Even if Bush returns home, I have a feeling it will be something like hospice care. He will definitely be on my 2013 Deathlist and this site should still consider making him one of the 50. I don't know about the top 10, but maybe somewhere between #20 and 30. Put him in at number 41.

Guest (and members) can post pretty much what they want, including criticism of the forum and its members. I don't mind. I even don't mind to read posts along the lines of "YOUR ALL WANKERS!!!!!!" Especially when written with the literacy of a parrot, such posts are part of the joy I get from reading this forum. I fail to understand why a reader, who has sufficient intellectual talent to write a message without obvious spelling errors and who accidentally finds this forum, feels the need to post anonymously about the moral quality of the members, rather than to shrug and continue his trawl through the Internet. With regard to my love for DeathList I'd like to say this. It's an acquired taste. I've had a vivid interest in many things related to death from a young age. I've read newspaper obits since I can read, I regularly visit cemeteries, including ones no relatives of mine are buried in and I rarely miss a funeral. I can't remember what search on the Internet brought me here, but I enjoyed reading the forum from the start and I joined after only a month of lurking. You claim: That is your opinion. An opinion I respect, but don't share. We may handle death and celebrities without respect and possibly in bad taste, but, to the best of my knowledge, most members are quite aware, and sensitive, of the loss that death brings to all, including the relatives and friends of the subjects of our discussions. regards, Hein

You don't have to. You don't have to read DeathList forum, you don't have to post on it. Yet you do both, while you claim to loathe the forum. I conclude from that that you subscribe to the "Do as I say, not as I do" school of ethical education. That, or that you're simply lying. Or both. People who do either get little respect from me. regards, Hein

You may suggest all that you wish for, however, the chances of the relevant people listening and acting upon it is about as likely as Windsor falling in love with me and begging me to elope with him to Cumbria...or summat. Basically, no fucking chance. Never say never! I'm up for it if he is...

Good to see you move with the times there, Disgusted. Seeing how this fancy new-fangled Internet is quickly filling up with vulgar filth, perhaps you might like to investigate another new source of home-based entertainment. I believe it's called tele-vision or somesuch. Better be quick though, before any family-oriented music-hall type light entertainment is taken over by soft core porn-filled, US-centric, violence-based crime pseudo-dramas. [edit]D'oh. Too late.

Your predictions were spot on with all those women last year. But then they were all tied up and blindfolded in your basement...

shut up Imagine pleading guilty to stalking Thora Hird.