YoungWillz 21,185 Posted May 31, 2023 On 20/01/2018 at 10:20, theoldlady said: Leslie van Houten denied parole by Governor Jerry Brown on Friday. Also: would it be possible to change the title of this thread to something like Charles Manson and family members? It's the circle of life. Appeals court says Leslie van Houten should be paroled: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12143617/Leslie-Van-Houten-convicted-taking-cults-murders-paroled.html Apparently the Governor will have to appeal that decision to reverse his denial of parole. Ohh, it''s in the hands of the courts.... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theoldlady 2,342 Posted May 31, 2023 3 hours ago, YoungWillz said: It's the circle of life. Appeals court says Leslie van Houten should be paroled: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12143617/Leslie-Van-Houten-convicted-taking-cults-murders-paroled.html Apparently the Governor will have to appeal that decision to reverse his denial of parole. Ohh, it''s in the hands of the courts.... Here is the lastest info I found about this on the Inmate Locater website for California today. The California governor is hoping to be the Democratic contender for President next year. Wonder how he is going to navigate this mine-field! Pending Bord Actions Date Action Status May 2024 Parole Suitability Hearing Tentative date for parole suitability hearing Past Board Action Date Action Outcome November 03, 2022 Parole Suitability Hearing Inmate voluntarily waived the right to a hearing for 1 year March 29, 2022 Governor’s Reversal The inmate’s grant of parole was reversed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,185 Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, theoldlady said: Here is the lastest info I found about this on the Inmate Locater website for California today. The California governor is hoping to be the Democratic contender for President next year. Wonder how he is going to navigate this mine-field! Pending Bord Actions Date Action Status May 2024 Parole Suitability Hearing Tentative date for parole suitability hearing Past Board Action Date Action Outcome November 03, 2022 Parole Suitability Hearing Inmate voluntarily waived the right to a hearing for 1 year March 29, 2022 Governor’s Reversal The inmate’s grant of parole was reversed I'd be surprised after all this time and van Houten's good behaviour if the Courts will not inevitably release her. Isn't that what prison is for - protect the public and encourage reform of character? Yes, what she did was horrific. But in the absence of a death penalty and now Manson's dead, what do they think she's going to do at her age? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theoldlady 2,342 Posted May 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: I'd be surprised after all this time and van Houten's good behaviour if the Courts will not inevitably release her. Isn't that what prison is for - protect the public and encourage reform of character? Yes, what she did was horrific. But in the absence of a death penalty and now Manson's dead, what do they think she's going to do at her age? True! In actuality, all she really did was stab a dead corpse several times and drank the victim’s milk, ate her food, and put on Rosemary’s clothing, laughed at the trial — Rosemary was already dead, killed by Tex Watson. Van Houten has earned BA and Master Degrees, is a literacy teacher in prison, among other things. She was actually sentenced to Death, but California ended the Death penalty for a few years, them brought it back. About 100 prisoners had their Death penalties overturned at that time — and this is the mess all that caused. She will not hurt anyone if she gets out. She is rehabilitated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,704 Posted May 31, 2023 The Court of Public Opinion will likely keep her in, as it did for Hindley and probably will for Chapman. My auto correct tried to change Hindley to Huntley. Very intuitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsox 894 Posted May 31, 2023 I respectfully disagree with those who think she should be released. I have always been against the death penalty but the only way I can maintain that opinion is if life imprisonment actually is life imprisonment. Prison is also meant to be punishment for doing terrible things. I also do not believe that at 73 she can no longer harm anyone. I'm 70 and could potentially cause a lot of damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,451 Posted May 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, deadsox said: I'm 70 and could potentially cause a lot of damage. This a threat? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,185 Posted July 8, 2023 Leslie Van Houten will be paroled it seems as Newsom drops his opposition: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/08/leslie-van-houten-manson-follower-california-governor-parole 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,844 Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, YoungWillz said: Leslie Van Houten will be paroled it seems as Newsom drops his opposition: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/08/leslie-van-houten-manson-follower-california-governor-parole If she wanted him to do that quicker she should have just changed her pronouns to they/them a few years ago. Newsom is an opportunistic cock. Though I actually think holding her in prison for any longer is pointless. She’s done enough time and she’s no threat to society. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 278 Posted July 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: If she wanted him to do that quicker she should have just changed her pronouns to they/them a few years ago. Newsom is an opportunistic cock. Though I actually think holding her in prison for any longer is pointless. She’s done enough time and she’s no threat to society. I don't think that's true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bentrovato 1,104 Posted July 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Tango854 said: I don't think that's true. 8 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Leslie Van Houten will be paroled it seems as Newsom drops his opposition: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/08/leslie-van-houten-manson-follower-california-governor-parole Didn't her niece host the Big Breakfast on Channel 4 in the 90s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slackhurst Broadcasting 376 Posted July 8, 2023 The question now is will Patricia Krenwinkel get parole in a few years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0neseur0 118 Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Slackhurst Broadcasting said: The question now is will Patricia Krenwinkel get parole in a few years? I very much doubt. Their paroles get overruled because of the infamy of the case. It's taken this long to get the girl who stabbed a corpse out of prison. It's a whole other ball game getting the ones who actually murdered people out. I also think that Krenwinkel being at the Sharon Tate & co murders carries more public hatred than Van Houten being at the less sensational / publicised La Bianca murders. Sadly the victims are definitely ranked in order of how much the public care about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mollyafox 460 Posted July 11, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 03:59, YoungWillz said: Leslie Van Houten will be paroled it seems as Newsom drops his opposition: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/08/leslie-van-houten-manson-follower-california-governor-parole Officially released from prison. https://apnews.com/article/9d288014802324371971ce8bd63a78e4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,683 Posted July 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, mollyafox said: Officially released from prison. https://apnews.com/article/9d288014802324371971ce8bd63a78e4 Nice Do we have a thread for US celebrity hairdressers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,704 Posted July 11, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 17:57, Bentrovato said: Didn't her niece host the Big Breakfast on Channel 4 in the 90s? No, but her cousin Milhouse often appears on that same channel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,683 Posted November 14 Manson admitted to more killings whilst in jail: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20ng49373ro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bentrovato 1,104 Posted November 14 46 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: Manson admitted to more killings whilst in jail: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20ng49373ro He probably admitted to having a wank on a train at some point. Any evidence? Tissues etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,683 Posted November 14 4 minutes ago, Bentrovato said: He probably admitted to having a wank on a train at some point. Any evidence? Tissues etc? Manson was a metaphorical prick tease on such stuff as are many nut job murderers once they're banged up, it's about the only thing they can do that gives them any sense of having power once they've had it all taken away. See also Levi Belfield on/off confessions to killing Lynn and Megan Russell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bentrovato 1,104 Posted November 14 38 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: Manson was a metaphorical prick tease on such stuff as are many nut job murderers once they're banged up, it's about the only thing they can do that gives them any sense of having power once they've had it all taken away. See also Levi Belfield on/off confessions to killing Lynn and Megan Russell Sadly too true. And so someone gets a TV series out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
