Mango 154 Posted February 17 This is all new information. So what we know now is that, on top of being bedridden, confused, and lonely, he doesn't eat or drink normally and is generally uncommunicative. How they can spin this as him being "fine" would make even the likes of Alastair Campbell blush. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MortalCaso 1,618 Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, mymango said: This is all new information. So what we know now is that, on top of being bedridden, confused, and lonely, he doesn't eat or drink normally and is generally uncommunicative. How they can spin this as him being "fine" would make even the likes of Alastair Campbell blush. Who cares? There is nothing new to report on this man till he dies or is hospitalized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,926 Posted February 17 The Carter agents in the deep state are lying to us! Edit: Though I wonder if there are ANY Carter appointments still in active service. It's been at least 43 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,049 Posted February 17 What exactly is meant by hospice care in the USA? Here in the UK it's generally understood to be for people who are terminally ill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,411 Posted February 17 1 minute ago, Toast said: What exactly is meant by hospice care in the USA? Here in the UK it's generally understood to be for people who are terminally ill. I think Jimmy Carter’s family meant to tell everyone that he’s in a retirement home, not hospice. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane 348 Posted February 17 13 minutes ago, Toast said: What exactly is meant by hospice care in the USA? Here in the UK it's generally understood to be for people who are terminally ill. It’s about the same here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 154 Posted February 17 1 hour ago, MortalCaso said: Who cares? There is nothing new to report on this man till he dies or is hospitalized. He's effectively already hospitalised but at home. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 154 Posted February 17 (edited) 22 hours ago, Toast said: What exactly is meant by hospice care in the USA? Here in the UK it's generally understood to be for people who are terminally ill. He is terminally ill, just with what it's not absolutely certain, though I still think it's probably cancer. Edited February 18 by mymango 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane 348 Posted February 17 1 hour ago, mymango said: He is terminally ill, just with what it's not absolutely certain, though I still think it's most likely cancer. No offense, no one is going to listen to you anymore, you are very unreliable for Carter news for this site, but most of us have been wrong about this but you are the most wrong out everyone here, get more reliable sources and we will start to respect you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 154 Posted February 17 9 minutes ago, Insane said: No offense, no one is going to listen to you anymore, you are very unreliable for Carter news for this site, but most of us have been wrong about this but you are the most wrong out everyone here, get more reliable sources and we will start to respect you. There's no need to shoot the messenger. I've cited two highly reliable sources, in the Washington Post and the Associated Press, for what I've been saying about Carter's health. I've said I'm going to try and clarify the situation with the New York Times, and I'll report back when they respond. I'm just stating my own opinion based on the reports I've seen, at least two of which independently state that he has a terminal illness. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dying Probably 578 Posted February 17 2 hours ago, gcreptile said: Though I wonder if there are ANY Carter appointments still in active service. It's been at least 43 years... None since February 28, 2021. Carmen Consuelo Cerezo was the last in office. The longest-serving federal judge to still be in office is Pauline Newman, a Reagan appointee from 1984... who is suspended on health grounds because she's 96, leaving the 79-year-old J. Harvie Wilkinson III from later the same year. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InquilineKea 75 Posted February 18 6 months ago, he still had phone conversations, watched TV/listened to audiobooks, was still mentally lucid much of the time, and enjoyed lots of peanut-butter-ice-cream... Now.. he's basically little more than a zombie. Certainly, a lot more has changed than meets the eye... The only silver lining is that he is lasting way longer than expected. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 518 Posted February 18 2 hours ago, InquilineKea said: Now.. he's basically little more than a zombie. The fact that according to the article he's still engaged in conversation, even occasionally, tells me he may be around for a bit yet. That's the biggest surprise considering up until the last week or so, we were all under the impression he probably didn't speak at all. From a health perspective, that's pretty good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 154 Posted February 18 5 hours ago, Comped said: The fact that according to the article he's still engaged in conversation, even occasionally, tells me he may be around for a bit yet. That's the biggest surprise considering up until the last week or so, we were all under the impression he probably didn't speak at all. From a health perspective, that's pretty good! He's "not mobile or particularly talkative" according to the NYT report, so not really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thadee 117 Posted February 18 what if Jimmy fights to make it to 100 and die October 2 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 807 Posted February 18 What if people stopped posting tedious comments in this thread that add no value whatsoever? 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,083 Posted February 18 9 minutes ago, Master Obit said: What if people stopped posting tedious comments in this thread that add no value whatsoever? Absofuckinglutely. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,411 Posted February 19 16 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: 14 hours ago, Master Obit said: What if people stopped posting tedious comments in this thread that add no value whatsoever? 6 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimreaper 668 Posted February 19 On 17/02/2024 at 13:34, mymango said: He's effectively already hospitalised but at home. Being at home is literally the antithesis of what it means to be hospitalized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 154 Posted February 19 30 minutes ago, dimreaper said: Being at home is literally the antithesis of what it means to be hospitalized. What I meant was, in terms of medical care, his home is effectively a personal hospital. Not to mention his own deathbed is a hospital bed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chiesa52 132 Posted February 19 This showed up on CBS Sunday Morning today- looks like he is still fighting- but how much longer can he go? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimreaper 668 Posted February 19 On 17/02/2024 at 12:34, Toast said: What exactly is meant by hospice care in the USA? Here in the UK it's generally understood to be for people who are terminally ill. In the U.S., It's medical care for people for people with an anticipated life expectancy of 6 months or less. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puma85 30 Posted February 19 On 21/04/2023 at 02:01, The Daredevil said: Expert confirms Carter’s time under hospice care is not unusually long. Average timespan is 60-70 days. Carter is around day 62. https://people.com/politics/jimmy-carter-hospice-length-expert/ Carter is a big outlier. According to this expert average timespan was 60-70 days but he has exceeded 1 year in hospice care. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 807 Posted February 19 Can this thread please just be locked for a bit? Even a week? It might give certain users a chance to do something other than obsess over the man. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
