Paul Bearer 6,102 Posted August 7, 2005 Any chance she could be buried while she is still alive? Preferably up side down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy Ronnie 78 Posted August 8, 2005 A bad, bad woman indeed, Mrs Thatcher. I shall be buying a new pair of tackety dancing-boots specially. She started us off on the slippery slope towards moral bankruptcy from which there is now probably no escape. A woman without any human sympathy whatsoever, who fuelled by her insane prejudices inhumanely applied rigid capitalist criteria at a time when there was already great hardship. I will be very pleased to see the back of her, and will be barring no holds in my vociferous disapprobation of those who admire her shamelessly wicked deeds. The Evil that Men do and all that. Any chance she could be buried while she is still alive? Why is everyone in the UK so down on Maggie? My own limited understanding and vague recollection was Britain in the late '70's was going exactly nowhere, and that Mrs. T, by fair means or foul, got the country pointed in the right direction. Or do people miss strikes, unemployment, and inflation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted August 8, 2005 Why is everyone in the UK so down on Maggie? My own limited understanding and vague recollection was Britain in the late '70's was going exactly nowhere, and that Mrs. T, by fair means or foul, got the country pointed in the right direction. Or do people miss strikes, unemployment, and inflation? She took brutal advantage of Labour's dire failure to present a decisive and competent alternative to trample with jack-boots over social justice, cohesion and workers representation. Do you think people went on strike for no reason? Don't forget the image you had of strikers from the press was also orchestrated by the Tories (even before they were in power). She got the country moving, but not in the right direction. Also her murdering of British industry did absolutely nothing for unemployment. As didn't her privatisation of anything and everything. This is quite a fair description of some of what she did. Must say I agree rather more with Anubis than with VileBody about Mowlam. /end of political rant. sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Yeti 14 Posted August 14, 2005 Why is everyone in the UK so down on Maggie? My own limited understanding and vague recollection was Britain in the late '70's was going exactly nowhere, and that Mrs. T, by fair means or foul, got the country pointed in the right direction. Or do people miss strikes, unemployment, and inflation? She took brutal advantage of Labour's dire failure to present a decisive and competent alternative to trample with jack-boots over social justice, cohesion and workers representation. Do you think people went on strike for no reason? Don't forget the image you had of strikers from the press was also orchestrated by the Tories (even before they were in power). She got the country moving, but not in the right direction. Also her murdering of British industry did absolutely nothing for unemployment. As didn't her privatisation of anything and everything. This is quite a fair description of some of what she did. /end of political rant. sorry. Directing us to the Socialist Worker, hey ? I would imagine they'd have a very unbiased view of Maggie I have to agree with Cowboy Ronnie's summation of where the UK was when Maggie came in. And despite your rant, she did win 3 elections, which means more people thought she was going to be better for the country than the other choices available. Which weren't great. Don't you like the democratic process ? Two sides an' all that. PS I think it hightly likely she'd get a Ceremonial funeral, given how long she was prime minister, and her status on the world stage. Not to mention the politicians wouldn't want to seem small minded not to give her one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted August 14, 2005 Directing us to the Socialist Worker, hey ?I would imagine they'd have a very unbiased view of Maggie I have to agree with Cowboy Ronnie's summation of where the UK was when Maggie came in. And despite your rant, she did win 3 elections, which means more people thought she was going to be better for the country than the other choices available. Which weren't great. Don't you like the democratic process ? Two sides an' all that. PS I think it hightly likely she'd get a Ceremonial funeral, given how long she was prime minister, and her status on the world stage. Not to mention the politicians wouldn't want to seem small minded not to give her one. I'd like to know where one could find an unbiased view of someone as contentious as the Thatch. But in the main, I don't disagree with you at all, Yeti. Or Ronnie. I'm just reading Thatcher's book, "The Downing Street Years" You have to admire her clear-headedness and efficiency in the way she did what she did. In stark contrast to her bumbling, indecisive predecessors. Just in certain areas where she appeared to have psychopathic prejudices, she employed the "decapitation to cure a headache" technique rather more enthusiastically than was strictly necessary. A woman of incredible talents which, had they been used for good, would have made the world a much better place in my humble, biased, ill-informed opinion. And no, I'm not really that keen on what is known as "democracy", but don't get me started on that. I think she probably will get a state funeral, though there will be much opposition to it. Perhaps a little discreet sponsorship would be in order, to ease the burden to the taxpayer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted August 14, 2005 I'm just reading Thatcher's book, "The Downing Street Years" I'm impressed by your willingness to read work from people you disagree with. You have to admire her clear-headedness and efficiency in the way she did what she did. In stark contrast to her bumbling, indecisive predecessors. Or her successors, for that matter. Mrs Thatcher surely was the best educated UK PM of the 20th century, probably the smartest and arguably the evilest. I think she probably will get a state funeral, though there will be much opposition to it.Perhaps a little discreet sponsorship would be in order, to ease the burden to the taxpayer? May I suggest a state cremation as a compromise? regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DEAD EYE DICK Posted August 17, 2005 Unconfirmed reports on the AP news network tonight say that former British PM Lady Thatcher has tonight been admitted to a London hospital after suffering a stroke.There is no word on the serioousness of her condition although the silence is thought to be ominious.I will keep ypou posted on latest developments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted August 17, 2005 Hold on now let me calm down.. This could be a total hoax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy 21 Posted August 17, 2005 Hold on now let me calm down.. This could be a total hoax. I hope not - I've already opened the champagne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted August 17, 2005 Hold on now let me calm down.. This could be a total hoax. I hope not - I've already opened the champagne I just checked BBC news and found nothing.. Hold off on popping that cork. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy 21 Posted August 17, 2005 Hold on now let me calm down.. This could be a total hoax. I hope not - I've already opened the champagne Even if there was such a stroke it doesn't necessarily mean she's kicked the bucket. I just checked BBC news and found nothing.. Hold off on popping that cork. Don't worry, it'll get drunk - either in celebration or drowning my sorrows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted August 17, 2005 Google news and reuters have no word on this stroke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Grendel 139 Posted August 17, 2005 A total wind up I really hope not, like Teddy I have opened the Champagne, I have also drawn up the plans for a street party and polished my dancing shoes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_fan 42 Posted August 18, 2005 I have checked the major news sources on the internet and there is still no confirmation of this story. Dead Eye Dick, if you have a link to the story, can you please post it? Regards, ff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Die 63 Posted August 18, 2005 I can't find anything either, except this link that suggests that her previous strokes were smoke-related .... caused by years of inhaling Denis's cigarette smoke (he smoked 60 a day) http://www.tobacco.org/news/183192.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Strangelove 14 Posted August 18, 2005 ...Unconfirmed reports.. You don't even have the guts to stand behind your fake story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted August 18, 2005 Re Dennis Thatcher: Is his first wife still alive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Strangelove 14 Posted August 18, 2005 A quick google doesn't reveal much, this is the best I can find; In 1941, he met Margaret Kempson at an officers' tea dance: she bore a striking resemblance to a certain Margaret Roberts, who was to enter his life much later. They married in March 1942, never lived together because of the circumstances of the war, and were divorced in 1948, believing that they had nothing in common. Sir Denis was always reluctant to talk about the matter I couldn't find anything about her life after divorce, I doubt if she counts as famous anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy 21 Posted August 18, 2005 A quick google doesn't reveal much, this is the best I can find;In 1941, he met Margaret Kempson at an officers' tea dance: she bore a striking resemblance to a certain Margaret Roberts, who was to enter his life much later. They married in March 1942, never lived together because of the circumstances of the war, and were divorced in 1948, believing that they had nothing in common. Sir Denis was always reluctant to talk about the matter I couldn't find anything about her life after divorce, I doubt if she counts as famous anyway. About as famous at this guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted August 18, 2005 it was a hoax...ive just checked with her publicist and she says that Lady Thatcher is frail but in generally good health for now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy 21 Posted August 18, 2005 it was a hoax...ive just checked with her publicist and she says that Lady Thatcher is frail but in generally good health for now I don't know. You get me all excited, then at the very last minute, shatter my hopes and dreams. Just like being at home with Mrs Teddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted August 18, 2005 it was a hoax...ive just checked with her publicist and she says that Lady Thatcher is frail but in generally good health for now Lets add a bit of drama to that last sentence: "I've just checked with her publicist and she says that Lady Thatcher is frail but in generally good health. For now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites