YoungWillz 21,028 Posted May 28, 2015 Pakistan presses on with executing its citizens. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32911257 Meanwhile, Nebraska abolishes the death penalty. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32910693 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted May 28, 2015 Meanwhile, Nebraska abolishes the death penalty. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32910693 How Pyrrhic. The old joke: 'My grandfather invented the potion that chased all the elephants out of Nebraska.' 'There's no ELEPHANTS in Nebraska!' 'See how well it worked!' SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion "might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there" errrm, prisoners can be released, but dead folks cant. thats the difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,515 Posted August 21, 2015 Was hoping this thread was bumped due to the news that Pakistan is to hang a paraplegic while he's still in his wheelchair. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted August 21, 2015 Was hoping this thread was bumped due to the news that Pakistan is to hang a paraplegic while he's still in his wheelchair. Interesting problem. He's paraplegic, has urinary and fecal incontinence, and is in prison for life, if the stay is granted. I think the death penalty would be mercy killing in his current state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted August 21, 2015 Was hoping this thread was bumped due to the news that Pakistan is to hang a paraplegic while he's still in his wheelchair.Get Boris in for the task.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion "might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there" errrm, prisoners can be released, but dead folks cant. thats the difference they still have spent many years in prison and had their name termished if you think a person who was convicted of criminal offences get a job easily your wrong 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,594 Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion"might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there" errrm, prisoners can be released, but dead folks cant. thats the difference they still have spent many years in prison and had their name termished if you think a person who was convicted of criminal offences get a job easily your wrong What, so your logic goes "he won't get a job easily when he gets out, might as well kill him"??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion "might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there" errrm, prisoners can be released, but dead folks cant. thats the difference they still have spent many years in prison and had their name termished if you think a person who was convicted of criminal offences get a job easily your wrong What, so your logic goes "he won't get a job easily when he gets out, might as well kill him"??? no my point is it ridiculous to get rid of the death penalty because of the small and ever decreasing chance the person is innocent and also at the current rate the death penalty is working. If the person is innocent they can be saved years before they are on the chair 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion"might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there" errrm, prisoners can be released, but dead folks cant. thats the difference they still have spent many years in prison and had their name termished if you think a person who was convicted of criminal offences get a job easily your wrong damien echols done really well sense his release tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,594 Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion"might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there" errrm, prisoners can be released, but dead folks cant. thats the difference they still have spent many years in prison and had their name termished if you think a person who was convicted of criminal offences get a job easily your wrongWhat, so your logic goes "he won't get a job easily when he gets out, might as well kill him"???no my point is it ridiculous to get rid of the death penalty because of the small and ever decreasing chance the person is innocent and also at the current rate the death penalty is working. If the person is innocent they can be saved years before they are on the chair In a perfect world, your argument might carry some weight; but we don't live in a perfect world; miscarriages of justice still happen for a variety of reasons. You admit yourself that there's a small chance innocent people are convicted. (What your country of residence btw?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,313 Posted August 21, 2015 My opinion is that although a tempting prospect as a punishment to some abhorrent crimes such as murder rape and child molestation the death penalty is not the best solution.If you want someone to suffer for their crimes why kill them?Dead people can`t suffer after all. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted August 21, 2015 Liking your own posts should be a capital offence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted August 21, 2015 My opinion is that although a tempting prospectas a punishment to some abhorrent crimes such as murder rape and child molestation the death penalty is not the best solution.If you want someone to suffer for their crimes why kill them?Dead people can`t suffer after all.Yeah, and if some people are saying we should dispose of them to save space and money, they are wrong. If numerous appeals processes, safeguards etc. are in place like in the US, and if they spend decades on death row, like there (in maximum security prisons) - they cost more, not less. Of course, if you just shot them dead after the verdict in a basement like they did in the former Soviet Union in the 30s (40s), it would cost less, but it would also feel less civilized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted August 21, 2015 I agree with the death penalty and I think the argument that it should stop becuase of the small percentages of innocent people is ridiculous might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there. In south america they don't have the death penalty so a serial killer named Pedro Lopez got freed and did he stop. No, he is wanted for more murders now. Just giving my opinion "might as well close prisons since some innocent people are inside there" errrm, prisoners can be released, but dead folks cant. thats the difference they still have spent many years in prison and had their name termished if you think a person who was convicted of criminal offences get a job easily your wrongWhat, so your logic goes "he won't get a job easily when he gets out, might as well kill him"???no my point is it ridiculous to get rid of the death penalty because of the small and ever decreasing chance the person is innocent and also at the current rate the death penalty is working. If the person is innocent they can be saved years before they are on the chair In a perfect world, your argument might carry some weight; but we don't live in a perfect world; miscarriages of justice still happen for a variety of reasons. You admit yourself that there's a small chance innocent people are convicted. (What your country of residence btw?). Ireland 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,533 Posted August 21, 2015 My reasons against the death penalty are Derek Bentley, Ruth Ellis and Timothy Evans. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted August 21, 2015 My opinion is that although a tempting prospectas a punishment to some abhorrent crimes such as murder rape and child molestation the death penalty is not the best solution.If you want someone to suffer for their crimes why kill them?Dead people can`t suffer after all.Yeah, and if some people are saying we should dispose of them to save space and money, they are wrong. If numerous appeals processes, safeguards etc. are in place like in the US, and if they spend decades on death row, like there (in maximum security prisons) - they cost more, not less.Of course, if you just shot them dead after the verdict in a basement like they did in the former Soviet Union in the 30s (40s), it would cost less, but it would also feel less civilized. So that's why the yanks kill people without trial in other countries ? Because it's more civilised ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted August 21, 2015 My opinion is that although a tempting prospectas a punishment to some abhorrent crimes such as murder rape and child molestation the death penalty is not the best solution.If you want someone to suffer for their crimes why kill them?Dead people can`t suffer after all.Yeah, and if some people are saying we should dispose of them to save space and money, they are wrong. If numerous appeals processes, safeguards etc. are in place like in the US, and if they spend decades on death row, like there (in maximum security prisons) - they cost more, not less.Of course, if you just shot them dead after the verdict in a basement like they did in the former Soviet Union in the 30s (40s), it would cost less, but it would also feel less civilized. So that's why the yanks kill people without trial in other countries ? Because it's more civilised ? No, obviously, because it's easier, cheaper, faster and most importantly safer for their troops (as a drone can do the job, but it can't really arrest people). I guess their reasoning is that American citizens are usually entitled to a fair trial, but even they forfeit this right if they are acting against American interests as enemy combatants and terrorists. Other citizens are not mentioned in their constitution so they don't really count anyways. I'm not saying that I approve of this, but these people are liquidated rather than executed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,642 Posted August 21, 2015 My reasons against the death penalty are Derek Bentley, Ruth Ellis and Timothy Evans. Aye, but three decent movies as a result, not a complete waste, then. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted August 21, 2015 My opinion is that although a tempting prospectas a punishment to some abhorrent crimes such as murder rape and child molestation the death penalty is not the best solution.If you want someone to suffer for their crimes why kill them?Dead people can`t suffer after all.Yeah, and if some people are saying we should dispose of them to save space and money, they are wrong. If numerous appeals processes, safeguards etc. are in place like in the US, and if they spend decades on death row, like there (in maximum security prisons) - they cost more, not less.Of course, if you just shot them dead after the verdict in a basement like they did in the former Soviet Union in the 30s (40s), it would cost less, but it would also feel less civilized. So that's why the yanks kill people without trial in other countries ? Because it's more civilised ? No, obviously, because it's easier, cheaper, faster and most importantly safer for their troops (as a drone can do the job, but it can't really arrest people). I guess their reasoning is that American citizens are usually entitled to a fair trial, but even they forfeit this right if they are acting against American interests as enemy combatants and terrorists. Other citizens are not mentioned in their constitution so they don't really count anyways. I'm not saying that I approve of this, but these people are liquidated rather than executed. Exactly.....God it'll be good when the fuckers fall. Mon Isis, China, Iran and the soviets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted August 21, 2015 My reasons against the death penalty are Derek Bentley, Ruth Ellis and Timothy Evans. And in the Death Penalties defence I give you Derek Batey Ruth Madoc Chris Evans... Your children will thank me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,533 Posted August 21, 2015 My reasons against the death penalty are Derek Bentley, Ruth Ellis and Timothy Evans. And in the Death Penalties defence I give you Derek Batey Ruth Madoc Chris Evans... Your children will thank me. Although Derek Batey is already dead having died 2 years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted August 21, 2015 Electric chair if I mind right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,313 Posted August 21, 2015 Having said I personally don`t think the death penalty is the best punishment I don`t particularly care if some arsehole rapist or murderer in Texas gets the chair.Just though I would clear that up so none of you thought I was a hippy do-gooder pacifist or summat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
