Sean 6,314 Posted October 23, 2015 Ok, joke aside, they say it was a constant up and down, but now he's stable enough to go home. His initial hip surgery led to complications which required more surgery, including bowel surgery. The final sentences are curious. "The doctors fought for weeks to get him to leave the hospital alive. Considering the circumstances, he's doing ok. But he's not healthy". It sounds a bit as if he wants to die at home. I guess they were surprised that he was in a worse general shape than they (and he himself) expected. They didn't expect that the initial hip surgery could go so bad. Who knows, maybe he doesn't even want to leave home during the next health crisis. That is hardly a ringing endorsement of his health.When they say "considering the circumstances" one can only assume they are referring to the fact that he isn`t dead yet.Definitely a keeper for next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted October 23, 2015 Ok, joke aside, they say it was a constant up and down, but now he's stable enough to go home. His initial hip surgery led to complications which required more surgery, including bowel surgery. The final sentences are curious. "The doctors fought for weeks to get him to leave the hospital alive. Considering the circumstances, he's doing ok. But he's not healthy". It sounds a bit as if he wants to die at home. I guess they were surprised that he was in a worse general shape than they (and he himself) expected. They didn't expect that the initial hip surgery could go so bad. Who knows, maybe he doesn't even want to leave home during the next health crisis. compilations can still happen. People could be on the road to recovery and then bam they're dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted October 23, 2015 Ok, joke aside, they say it was a constant up and down, but now he's stable enough to go home. His initial hip surgery led to complications which required more surgery, including bowel surgery. The final sentences are curious. "The doctors fought for weeks to get him to leave the hospital alive. Considering the circumstances, he's doing ok. But he's not healthy". It sounds a bit as if he wants to die at home. I guess they were surprised that he was in a worse general shape than they (and he himself) expected. They didn't expect that the initial hip surgery could go so bad. Who knows, maybe he doesn't even want to leave home during the next health crisis. compilations can still happen. People could be on the road to recovery and then bam they're dead What, is someone gonna record a greatest hits album as a tribute? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,551 Posted October 24, 2015 Ok, joke aside, they say it was a constant up and down, but now he's stable enough to go home. His initial hip surgery led to complications which required more surgery, including bowel surgery. The final sentences are curious. "The doctors fought for weeks to get him to leave the hospital alive. Considering the circumstances, he's doing ok. But he's not healthy". It sounds a bit as if he wants to die at home. I guess they were surprised that he was in a worse general shape than they (and he himself) expected. They didn't expect that the initial hip surgery could go so bad. Who knows, maybe he doesn't even want to leave home during the next health crisis. compilations can still happen. People could be on the road to recovery and then bam they're dead What, is someone gonna record a greatest hits album as a tribute? This Greatest Hits album already exists: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted November 10, 2015 I wonder if now that the other Helmut has died the younger Helmut will follow soon. Note that after waiting years for an Australian PM to die Gough Whitlams death was followed within a few months by the much younger Malcolm Fraser. These things tend to come in bunches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted November 10, 2015 I wonder if now that the other Helmut has died the younger Helmut will follow soon. Note that after waiting years for an Australian PM to die Gough Whitlams death was followed within a few months by the much younger Malcolm Fraser. These things tend to come in bunches Tend = 1 example Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted December 29, 2015 I missed it back then, but a week ago, Kohl left home for a trip the first time after his health crisis.: http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/helmut-kohl/besucht-dom-43873634.bild.html(german link) The photo is ...inconclusive: (the hands don't look too well, I guess?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted December 29, 2015 I missed it back then, but a week ago, Kohl left home for a trip the first time after his health crisis.: http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/helmut-kohl/besucht-dom-43873634.bild.html(german link) The photo is ...inconclusive: (the hands don't look too well, I guess?) He looks like he has no idea where the hell he is and that shouting boo would finish him off! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,595 Posted December 29, 2015 I missed it back then, but a week ago, Kohl left home for a trip the first time after his health crisis.: http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/helmut-kohl/besucht-dom-43873634.bild.html(german link) The photo is ...inconclusive: (the hands don't look too well, I guess?) He looks like he has no idea where the hell he is and that shouting boo would finish him off! Is he preparing to blow all the candles out? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamGStewart 21 Posted December 29, 2015 Cripes. He looks like the Birdman of Hamlet or something, sitting there in that castle. Oh well, still more chance of him seeing out 2016 than Britain's EU membership if you ask me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted December 29, 2015 Definately a keeper for next years list.He is one of the 2015 names I really hope is carried onto next years list along with Adulyadej,Phillips,Douglas,Havelange Gabor, Wouk ,Castro,Prince Phillip,LaMotta ,Crowe,Bush,Lynn and de Havilland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted December 30, 2015 I missed it back then, but a week ago, Kohl left home for a trip the first time after his health crisis.: http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/helmut-kohl/besucht-dom-43873634.bild.html(german link) The photo is ...inconclusive: (the hands don't look too well, I guess?) He looks like he has no idea where the hell he is and that shouting boo would finish him off! Is he preparing to blow all the candles out? he's clearly close to death. he will die in 2016 for sure. that photo confirms he must b e on the list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted March 3, 2016 Helmut Kohl sues his former biographer for the (german) record sum of 5 million Euros: http://www.welt.de/regionales/nrw/article152896124/Der-Geist-den-Helmut-Kohl-nicht-mehr-los-wird.html(german link) The biographer (Heribert Schwan), however believes that it's the work of Kohl's second wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted March 3, 2016 Helmut Kohl sues his former biographer for the (german) record sum of 5 million Euros: http://www.welt.de/regionales/nrw/article152896124/Der-Geist-den-Helmut-Kohl-nicht-mehr-los-wird.html(german link) The biographer (Heribert Schwan), however believes that it's the work of Kohl's second wife. Probably the wife. I don't think Helmut is that big of an asskohl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 4, 2016 Helmut Kohl sues his former biographer for the (german) record sum of 5 million Euros: http://www.welt.de/regionales/nrw/article152896124/Der-Geist-den-Helmut-Kohl-nicht-mehr-los-wird.html(german link) The biographer (Heribert Schwan), however believes that it's the work of Kohl's second wife. What was in the biography that upset him so much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,903 Posted March 4, 2016 Helmut Kohl sues his former biographer for the (german) record sum of 5 million Euros: http://www.welt.de/regionales/nrw/article152896124/Der-Geist-den-Helmut-Kohl-nicht-mehr-los-wird.html(german link) The biographer (Heribert Schwan), however believes that it's the work of Kohl's second wife. What was in the biography that upset him so much? I've not read it so I don't know but perhaps speculation that his wife's suicide was not down to her illness but Kohl's womanising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted March 4, 2016 Helmut Kohl sues his former biographer for the (german) record sum of 5 million Euros: http://www.welt.de/regionales/nrw/article152896124/Der-Geist-den-Helmut-Kohl-nicht-mehr-los-wird.html(german link) The biographer (Heribert Schwan), however believes that it's the work of Kohl's second wife. Probably the wife. I don't think Helmut is that big of an asskohl. Au contraire, Helmut Kohl had a nasty streak. It could be him, but I think he's incapable of these decisions. Helmut Kohl sues his former biographer for the (german) record sum of 5 million Euros: http://www.welt.de/regionales/nrw/article152896124/Der-Geist-den-Helmut-Kohl-nicht-mehr-los-wird.html(german link) The biographer (Heribert Schwan), however believes that it's the work of Kohl's second wife. What was in the biography that upset him so much? Probably family stuff. His first wife committed suicide because of her "Light allergy". Sunlight hurt her so she was forced to live in total darkness during the last years of her life. Armchair psychology says that she couldn't cope with her husband being always away, always in politics. Also, both sons of Kohl are estranged from him. There were many dirty stories there as well. Kohl was a ruthless man, a power politician. He didn't really care about policy, but about power, how to achieve it and to maintain or increase it. He has/had tons of enemies, like Heiner Geißler and Kurt Biedenkopf (if you care). Former federal president Richard Von Weizsäcker was a frenemy. He ruined Wolfgang Schäubles chances to succeed him during a donation scandal and was then famously let down by Angela Merkel, when everybody had enough of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whitehouse 872 Posted March 5, 2016 According to his biographer, the ghostwriter Heribert Schwan, it's all about the fourth volume of Kohl's memoires in which will be written about a financial scandal within Kohl's party the CDU. This event abruptly knocked Kohl from his pedestal. Allegedly his second wife is behind this lawsuit. Furthermore Schwan issued an unauthorised book which the court says was not right. The court sides with Kohl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bass 17 Posted April 3, 2016 His Vice Chancellor is dead... maybe this is a sign... Hans-Dietrich Genscher: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/01/hans-dietrich-genscher-obituary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted April 3, 2016 January 31: Weizsacker November 10: Schmidt March 18: Westerwelle March 31: Genscher German politician deaths becoming more frequent. At this rate Kohl has a week left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted April 3, 2016 happy 86th birthday. there is a good chance it will be his last Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted April 19, 2016 Helmut Kohl received a visit by Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban today: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/helmut-kohl-und-viktor-orban-meiden-harte-kritik-an-angela-merkel-a-1088037.html(german link) He looks a bit better than before, but is still wheelchair-bound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted December 27, 2016 Helmut Kohl at his annual visit of the Speyer Cathedral: http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/helmut-kohl/altkanzler-im-dom-zu-speyer-49430904.bild.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted December 28, 2016 Helmut Kohl at his annual visit of the Speyer Cathedral: http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/helmut-kohl/altkanzler-im-dom-zu-speyer-49430904.bild.html Oh, until now, I didn't realize that his new wife was so much younger than him. A bit weird to see that sprightly middle aged lady besides the wheelchair-bound, frail old man. (But I know he has been a widower and not a divorcee, so I couldn't complain much.) I'm not 100% sure that 2017 will be his year, but he doesn't look much better than Kirk Douglas, so he could make an OK DL-candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
