Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 2, 2016 Okay, I just found a study that I might read through later: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3162886/ "Background Hip fractures represent one of the most important causes of morbidity and mortality in elderly people." Another article about it here: http://share.kaiserpermanente.org/article/elderly-women-who-break-a-hip-at-increased-risk-of-dying-within-a-year/ "“This finding suggests that it is the hip fracture itself that ultimately leads to death in these women. Even though they start out in excellent health the hip fracture is so devastating that many of them don’t recover,” said LeBlanc." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted April 2, 2016 There's no way that she's going to die before she reaches at least, I'd say, 95. That is unless Prince Philip dies before that (which I can't see happening; he'll probably live to 100). I basically agree with what you are saying with the caveat that, at her age, all it would take would be for her to fall and break her hip for the whole situation to change dramatically overnight. As I have said many times before, I am in the camp that believes she'll go shortly after Phil, whenever that may be. 100 seems a long shot but he has kept on surprising us down the years and seems in good form just now. I think the DL Committee should definitely keep him on the list though as he is such an iconic figure he is what the DL is all about. Her mum had a hip replacement and lived a further seven years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 3, 2016 There's no way that she's going to die before she reaches at least, I'd say, 95. That is unless Prince Philip dies before that (which I can't see happening; he'll probably live to 100). I basically agree with what you are saying with the caveat that, at her age, all it would take would be for her to fall and break her hip for the whole situation to change dramatically overnight. As I have said many times before, I am in the camp that believes she'll go shortly after Phil, whenever that may be. 100 seems a long shot but he has kept on surprising us down the years and seems in good form just now. I think the DL Committee should definitely keep him on the list though as he is such an iconic figure he is what the DL is all about. Her mum had a hip replacement and lived a further seven years.I don't think that having a replacement is quite the same as the shock of breaking it but very interesting info for reference all the same, Cat. Cheers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 19, 2016 The Queen's cousin again confirms the old girl won't abdicate: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36077620 I realise that there is virtually zero chance of it happening but the thought occurred to me the other day that it would be interesting if QE2 died before the last Victorian goes, as their life would then span from the reign of Queen Vic to that of King Charlie. Not going to happen but still would be cool. That said, Doris Roberts was apparently active and seemingly healthy right up until her death yesterday when she just slipped away in her sleep, so anything can happen at 90+. Last week, she was at a conference discussing the representation of women in Hollywood so she was alert and well until the end. Of course, she wouldn't have had her health monitored as closely and as often as the Queen does but it shows that it does still become a game of chance to some degree at that age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 20, 2016 Only just noticed this English news story that's been running for the last few months... So, on the eve of the Queen's 90th, it seems the public/tabloids are finally starting to turn on William and Kate... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3455616/PLATELL-S-PEOPLE-Work-shy-William-make-royal-choice.html#comments http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437969/Kate-s-3-000-helicopter-trip-taxpayer-Queen-goes-54-train.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-asks-what-point-7407749 http://www.macleans.ca/society/prince-william-was-under-fire-for-being-work-shy-then-things-got-really-nasty/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3489591/Calamity-William-courtiers-won-t-say-no-Revealed-REAL-reason-workshy-Prince-keeps-blundering-one-public-relations-gaffe-another.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549130/Duty-weigh-young-age-Prince-William-denies-workshy-says-pilot-dad-means-doing-worthwhile-job.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted April 20, 2016 Only just noticed this English news story that's been running for the last few months... So, on the eve of the Queen's 90th, it seems the public/tabloids are finally starting to turn on William and Kate... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3455616/PLATELL-S-PEOPLE-Work-shy-William-make-royal-choice.html#comments http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437969/Kate-s-3-000-helicopter-trip-taxpayer-Queen-goes-54-train.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-asks-what-point-7407749 http://www.macleans.ca/society/prince-william-was-under-fire-for-being-work-shy-then-things-got-really-nasty/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3489591/Calamity-William-courtiers-won-t-say-no-Revealed-REAL-reason-workshy-Prince-keeps-blundering-one-public-relations-gaffe-another.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549130/Duty-weigh-young-age-Prince-William-denies-workshy-says-pilot-dad-means-doing-worthwhile-job.html You'll note almost all of those articles are from a single, widely ridiculed source. This isn't really a big deal other here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,100 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. It's still yesterday here Davey. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. Nope. For 1 hour and 27 minutes, she's still 89. A lot can happen in that time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. It's still yesterday here Davey. She's Queen of Australia, too, and it is tomorrow here today. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,100 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. It's still yesterday here Davey. She's Queen of Australia, too, and it is tomorrow here. Can you let me know what our winning lottery numbers are tomorrow? (Our time) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,437 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. Last UK Queen who didn't outlive a child - Queen Mary II in 1694, who didn't have any kids. Odds are Queen Liz will be around for a while yet, and will outlive one of her children. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 20, 2016 People sometimes used to speculate that Charlie would not live to take the throne. That is starting to look a little more plausible as he will be 70 in three years' time. Obviously he has a lot of factors in his favour: the longevity of both his parents and also his grandmother and the pampered lifestyle and top-class medical treatment. However, with the likes of Bowie, Rickman and so on all dropping relatively young, it does make one wonder about his mortality. Also, his appearance has aged a lot in recent years and he looks worse than his dad sometimes, IMHO. Would be interesting if that negative sentiment towards William and Kate in the tabloids above gains traction with the public over time and Charlie then dies young... Anyway, enough speculation. Here is an early report on the old gal's birthday from Australia: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-21/queen-elizabeth-celebrates-her-90th-birthday/7344226 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. Last UK Queen who didn't outlive a child - Queen Mary II in 1694, who didn't have any kids. Odds are Queen Liz will be around for a while yet, and will outlive one of her children. I think QEII will go suddenly, probably a from a massive stroke. I think/hope she'll be dead within 2 years. I can't stand the old bitch or any of her brood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 20, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. Last UK Queen who didn't outlive a child - Queen Mary II in 1694, who didn't have any kids. Odds are Queen Liz will be around for a while yet, and will outlive one of her children. I think QEII will go suddenly, probably a from a massive stroke. I think/hope she'll be dead within 2 years. I can't stand the old bitch or any of her brood. Well that sure killed the party mood. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 21, 2016 Another article on the Queen's secrets for a long life: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36076615 Looking back on the highs and lows of her reign: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/queen-elizabeth-ii-90-highs-lows-reign-38533302 Finally, "The Queen and the rise of the 90+ Club" has lots of interesting stats (which will no doubt depress DeathListers). Some quotes: As far as the Queen is concerned, the most important change in her lifetime is life expectancy. When Princess Elizabeth was born in 1926, the life expectancy at birth for a girl was 61.5 years and 57.6 years for a boy. Now it’s 82.8 and 79.1 years respectively and she has to send so many telegrams to congratulate people on their 100th birthday that her office has taken on extra staff in order to cope. . .. as the Queen celebrates her 90th birthday she lives in a country where, on average, all of her subjects being born now can expect to become nonagenarians. The next years of the Queen’s reign will see the emergence of the super centenarians – those aged 110 or more – as a distinct segment of the population.It is estimated that one-third of children born in the Queen’s 90th year will live to be 100 or more. Of course this has the well-established caveat of “if current trends continue”. Source: https://theconversation.com/queen-elizabeth-ii-and-the-rise-of-the-90-club-58028 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 21, 2016 Only just noticed this English news story that's been running for the last few months... So, on the eve of the Queen's 90th, it seems the public/tabloids are finally starting to turn on William and Kate...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3455616/PLATELL-S-PEOPLE-Work-shy-William-make-royal-choice.html#commentshttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437969/Kate-s-3-000-helicopter-trip-taxpayer-Queen-goes-54-train.htmlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-asks-what-point-7407749http://www.macleans.ca/society/prince-william-was-under-fire-for-being-work-shy-then-things-got-really-nasty/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3489591/Calamity-William-courtiers-won-t-say-no-Revealed-REAL-reason-workshy-Prince-keeps-blundering-one-public-relations-gaffe-another.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549130/Duty-weigh-young-age-Prince-William-denies-workshy-says-pilot-dad-means-doing-worthwhile-job.html You'll note almost all of those articles are from a single, widely ridiculed source. This isn't really a big deal other here. Hmmmm. The anti-William sentiment has now reached our shores: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/prince-william-shows-he-is-out-of-step-with-the-queen/news-story/062e76661fd99f3c014207626d0c4f88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 21, 2016 Well, the old gal made it (as it there was any doubt she would)! Happy 90th birthday, Your Maj! She might have made it to this milestone but, of course, the Reaper will always win in the end. Last UK Queen who didn't outlive a child - Queen Mary II in 1694, who didn't have any kids. Odds are Queen Liz will be around for a while yet, and will outlive one of her children. I think QEII will go suddenly, probably a from a massive stroke. I think/hope she'll be dead within 2 years. I can't stand the old bitch or any of her brood.Here's a piece more to your liking then: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/british-republican-group-calls-for-referendum-on-monarchy-when-queen-dies-a6993216.html That said, you can tell how much she is at the centre of not just the establishment class system but the military-industrial complex with her ""deep involvement" with the armed forces." http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35458254 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 21, 2016 Last Queen post from me: anyone interested in the human ageing process and studying the old girl's decline should check out these 90 images from 90 years: http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36013958 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,437 Posted April 21, 2016 Only just noticed this English news story that's been running for the last few months... So, on the eve of the Queen's 90th, it seems the public/tabloids are finally starting to turn on William and Kate...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3455616/PLATELL-S-PEOPLE-Work-shy-William-make-royal-choice.html#commentshttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437969/Kate-s-3-000-helicopter-trip-taxpayer-Queen-goes-54-train.htmlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-asks-what-point-7407749http://www.macleans.ca/society/prince-william-was-under-fire-for-being-work-shy-then-things-got-really-nasty/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3489591/Calamity-William-courtiers-won-t-say-no-Revealed-REAL-reason-workshy-Prince-keeps-blundering-one-public-relations-gaffe-another.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549130/Duty-weigh-young-age-Prince-William-denies-workshy-says-pilot-dad-means-doing-worthwhile-job.html You'll note almost all of those articles are from a single, widely ridiculed source. This isn't really a big deal other here. Hmmmm. The anti-William sentiment has now reached our shores: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/prince-william-shows-he-is-out-of-step-with-the-queen/news-story/062e76661fd99f3c014207626d0c4f88 Much ado about nothing, William has been the 2nd most popular royal pretty much since Diana died, and he and Kate keep doing that crowd favourite of popping out royal babies. Now where's that newspaper with its reports about Camilla trying to make sure Charles usurps the throne when Liz dies. We've not heard anything from that in ages. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,639 Posted April 21, 2016 Only just noticed this English news story that's been running for the last few months... So, on the eve of the Queen's 90th, it seems the public/tabloids are finally starting to turn on William and Kate...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3455616/PLATELL-S-PEOPLE-Work-shy-William-make-royal-choice.html#commentshttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437969/Kate-s-3-000-helicopter-trip-taxpayer-Queen-goes-54-train.htmlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-asks-what-point-7407749http://www.macleans.ca/society/prince-william-was-under-fire-for-being-work-shy-then-things-got-really-nasty/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3489591/Calamity-William-courtiers-won-t-say-no-Revealed-REAL-reason-workshy-Prince-keeps-blundering-one-public-relations-gaffe-another.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549130/Duty-weigh-young-age-Prince-William-denies-workshy-says-pilot-dad-means-doing-worthwhile-job.html You'll note almost all of those articles are from a single, widely ridiculed source. This isn't really a big deal other here. Hmmmm. The anti-William sentiment has now reached our shores: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/prince-william-shows-he-is-out-of-step-with-the-queen/news-story/062e76661fd99f3c014207626d0c4f88 Much ado about nothing, William has been the 2nd most popular royal pretty much since Diana died, and he and Kate keep doing that crowd favourite of popping out royal babies. Now where's that newspaper with its reports about Camilla trying to make sure Charles usurps the throne when Liz dies. We've not heard anything from that in ages. You mean QUEEN Camilla - that'd be touchy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted April 21, 2016 Only just noticed this English news story that's been running for the last few months... So, on the eve of the Queen's 90th, it seems the public/tabloids are finally starting to turn on William and Kate...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3455616/PLATELL-S-PEOPLE-Work-shy-William-make-royal-choice.html#commentshttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437969/Kate-s-3-000-helicopter-trip-taxpayer-Queen-goes-54-train.htmlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/carole-malone-asks-what-point-7407749http://www.macleans.ca/society/prince-william-was-under-fire-for-being-work-shy-then-things-got-really-nasty/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3489591/Calamity-William-courtiers-won-t-say-no-Revealed-REAL-reason-workshy-Prince-keeps-blundering-one-public-relations-gaffe-another.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549130/Duty-weigh-young-age-Prince-William-denies-workshy-says-pilot-dad-means-doing-worthwhile-job.html You'll note almost all of those articles are from a single, widely ridiculed source. This isn't really a big deal other here. Hmmmm. The anti-William sentiment has now reached our shores: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/prince-william-shows-he-is-out-of-step-with-the-queen/news-story/062e76661fd99f3c014207626d0c4f88 Much ado about nothing, William has been the 2nd most popular royal pretty much since Diana died, and he and Kate keep doing that crowd favourite of popping out royal babies. Now where's that newspaper with its reports about Camilla trying to make sure Charles usurps the throne when Liz dies. We've not heard anything from that in ages. Yes, that'sthe thing. He'sbeen a favourite for so long but now he's finally getting some stick. We'll see if the criticism grows amongst the publicor if it is the tabloid desperatefor a story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted April 29, 2016 Struggling to work out what to make of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,964 Posted April 30, 2016 Struggling to work out what to make of this. The Obamas and House Windsor are obviously reptilians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted May 1, 2016 Struggling to work out what to make of this. The Obamas and House Windsor are obviously reptilians. I was more shocked at what appears to potentially be a genuine smile from the Queen rather than a duty smile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
