Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Miracle Aligner said: I'd love to see them restructuring the Vanarama Leagues to be honest, the idea is the leagues get more local the further down the pyramid you go. Yet this season Gateshead had a 500 mile round away trip to Gloucester- absolutely bonkers.... I'd love to see the National League split down to Nat League North, Nat League Central and Nat League South. With the Central one covering the midlands and east Anglia down through lincolnshire etc. That would make perfect sense which means it won't happen. In all fairness, some places are just as far to travel to as you go west as when you go north or south. Hereford is a bloody long way from here and I don't think it is any worse to travel there as it would for Gateshead or Weymouth, as two examples. It is what it is, probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted July 27, 2020 After a stupidly long deliberation by the SFA. They have eventually have come to the correct decision and rejected the Partick + Hearts laughable plea to overturn there relegations. United are back where they belong in the SPFL F**k The Dee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,477 Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wee Jum said: After a stupidly long deliberation by the SFA. They have eventually have come to the correct decision and rejected the Partick + Hearts laughable plea to overturn there relegations. United are back where they belong in the SPFL F**k The Dee Fuck off! PS Best wishes and all that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted July 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, msc said: Fuck off! PS Best wishes and all that. I was more having a go at Ann Budge and Smertz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,477 Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wee Jum said: I was more having a go at Ann Budge and Smertz Aye, well they earned their relegation. Nah, I always thought Thistle would go down this year due to being a bit shite, but there's earning being relegated and there's going down early because the other shite team (QOTS) played an extra game while you were involved in the Cup. Brechin got off scot free n all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, msc said: Aye, well they earned their relegation. Nah, I always thought Thistle would go down this year due to being a bit shite, but there's earning being relegated and there's going down early because the other shite team (QOTS) played an extra game while you were involved in the Cup. Brechin got off scot free n all. Who cares about Brechin its a sh*thole 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,477 Posted July 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Wee Jum said: Who cares about Brechin its a sh*thole The SFA or whoever it is who voted not to relegate them. (PS One of the eight guys who voted on that is owner of Brechin City!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted July 27, 2020 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miracle Aligner 249 Posted July 27, 2020 On 26/07/2020 at 20:22, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: That would make perfect sense which means it won't happen. In all fairness, some places are just as far to travel to as you go west as when you go north or south. Hereford is a bloody long way from here and I don't think it is any worse to travel there as it would for Gateshead or Weymouth, as two examples. It is what it is, probably. This would never happen as big clubs would get pissed off with the 'fixture congestion' but this is how I'd do it. I've spoilered the logistical guff. It would mean some Southern teams that have enjoyed the benefit of playing in the wrong leagues at a higher tier would be demoted and the northern ones they've been keeping out being promoted, but it's much much better than the current system of 4 nation-wide leagues. Spoiler Premier League - expand to 30 clubs (20 this season finishers + Top 10 Championship) Championship - expand to 30 clubs and renamed Premier League Two (14 remainders in Championship after above promotions + 16 from League 1) 5 premier clubs relegated a season, 5 championship clubs promoted. 6 championship clubs relegated, (placed in most appropriate league) 6 regional leagues promoted to Championship (3 autos for winning + 3 play off winners (2-9 play eachother in a KO where 2 plays 9 3 plays 8 4 plays 7 and 5 plays 6). Regional League (Northern) (replaces the League One to National League tiers - has 30 clubs in it) Regional League (Central) (also replaces the League One to National League Tiers - has 30 clubs in it) Regional League (Southern) (also replaces the League One tier - National League Tier - has 30 clubs in it) Initially allocation to these 3 regional leagues would be based on geographic position with allocation also linked to performance. The three regional leagues relegate to a restructure National League North/South tier that now has a Central division as well - each with 24 clubs. With 4 relegations from each regional league, and 4 promotions from the regional 2 (2 automatic, 2 from a knock-out play off where 3 plays 10, 4 plays 9, 5 plays 8, 6 plays 7) - Everything above and including the restructured National League is governed by a central body, with stipulations on trickle-down of Premier League TV money into lower leagues - a new football league now comprising 222 clubs.) All leagues double round-robins as PL is now. - Scrap the League Cup and EFL Trophies. Retain FA Cup. Benefits = reduced travel costs for smaller clubs, reduced unnecessary cup competitions etc. More week-night fixtures and opportunity for increased revenue for lower division clubs. More matches etc Keeping teams in the right geographic areas that leaves us with (based on the 2020 season end) new divisions of as follows, with teams from right down to Tier 6 and the top 6 all fully included and geographically relevant teams from Tier 7 and Tier 8 (Northern Division) only now condensed into a much more club and fan friendly tier system. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted July 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Miracle Aligner said: This would never happen as big clubs would get pissed off with the 'fixture congestion' but this is how I'd do it. I've spoilered the logistical guff. It would mean some Southern teams that have enjoyed the benefit of playing in the wrong leagues at a higher tier would be demoted and the northern ones they've been keeping out being promoted, but it's much much better than the current system of 4 nation-wide leagues. Reveal hidden contents Premier League - expand to 30 clubs (20 this season finishers + Top 10 Championship) Championship - expand to 30 clubs and renamed Premier League Two (14 remainders in Championship after above promotions + 16 from League 1) 5 premier clubs relegated a season, 5 championship clubs promoted. 6 championship clubs relegated, (placed in most appropriate league) 6 regional leagues promoted to Championship (3 autos for winning + 3 play off winners (2-9 play eachother in a KO where 2 plays 9 3 plays 8 4 plays 7 and 5 plays 6). Regional League (Northern) (replaces the League One to National League tiers - has 30 clubs in it) Regional League (Central) (also replaces the League One to National League Tiers - has 30 clubs in it) Regional League (Southern) (also replaces the League One tier - National League Tier - has 30 clubs in it) Initially allocation to these 3 regional leagues would be based on geographic position with allocation also linked to performance. The three regional leagues relegate to a restructure National League North/South tier that now has a Central division as well - each with 24 clubs. With 4 relegations from each regional league, and 4 promotions from the regional 2 (2 automatic, 2 from a knock-out play off where 3 plays 10, 4 plays 9, 5 plays 8, 6 plays 7) - Everything above and including the restructured National League is governed by a central body, with stipulations on trickle-down of Premier League TV money into lower leagues - a new football league now comprising 222 clubs.) All leagues double round-robins as PL is now. - Scrap the League Cup and EFL Trophies. Retain FA Cup. Benefits = reduced travel costs for smaller clubs, reduced unnecessary cup competitions etc. More week-night fixtures and opportunity for increased revenue for lower division clubs. More matches etc Keeping teams in the right geographic areas that leaves us with (based on the 2020 season end) new divisions of as follows, with teams from right down to Tier 6 and the top 6 all fully included and geographically relevant teams from Tier 7 and Tier 8 (Northern Division) only now condensed into a much more club and fan friendly tier system. Anytime you feel like visiting a meeting of the Official Carlisle United Supporters Club, London Branch...you might like to bring a bodyguard or two! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miracle Aligner 249 Posted July 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: Anytime you feel like visiting a meeting of the Official Carlisle United Supporters Club, London Branch...you might like to bring a bodyguard or two! I get this is a pisser for turncoats people who have moved a long way from they club they support but on a financial basis for the clubs involved it could be incredibly helpful. You'd be a lot closer to the Championship though.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miracle Aligner 249 Posted July 27, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53556072 Quote The whole of the next football season in England could be played in front of reduced capacities and crowd sizes could be further impacted if chanting is proven to heighten transmission risk, a senior government adviser has said. Fuck off. Seriously just fuck off Prof Cadwell - you can sing through a fucking face mask....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,611 Posted July 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, Miracle Aligner said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53556072 Fuck off. Seriously just fuck off Prof Cadwell - you can sing through a fucking face mask....... Did you stop reading after the first sentence? (His name's Calder for a start) because you appear to have read the clickbait and jumped to an incorrect conclusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miracle Aligner 249 Posted July 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, time said: Did you stop reading after the first sentence? (His name's Calder for a start) because you appear to have read the clickbait and jumped to an incorrect conclusion. I read the entire article. There doing studies into whether or not it causes issues and spreads the virus. The issue is that is wasted money, why bother with that, when you can mandate the use of face masks. They're researching a scenario that doesn't need researching, and delaying us going back into stadiums while they carry out the research..... a) the fucking Barmy Army exist in cricket, it's not like chanting doesn't exist b) everything in the article points to testing for chanting spreading the virus in normal circumstances - but the solution is blinding obvious - face masks at the footy, the droplets can't spread through a face masks from chanting and your chanting can still be heard through a face mask. We're waiting for them to carry out irrelevant tests that will give a false result before they'll let us back in, it's fucking ludicrous. Quote He also revealed that experiments are under way to assess whether droplet spread is increased by chanting and singing, and therefore whether there may be a greater risk of coronavirus transmission. Professor Calder said: "We need to know, actually, does it matter if you're shouting, how far will those droplets spread? "At a football or a rugby match, the fans are going to be shouting and chanting and singing, I hope, and we need to be sure that the people in front of them are as safe as possible. "Now if there is no massive droplet spread, well OK, we can keep within the social distancing that we've put down for, say, the Crucible and The Oval. But if it is a problem, then we need to rethink the social distancing within the stadia, and that becomes very difficult." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted July 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Miracle Aligner said: I get this is a pisser for turncoats people who have moved a long way from they club they support but on a financial basis for the clubs involved it could be incredibly helpful. You'd be a lot closer to the Championship though.... Well... When the leagues became four national divisions the movement around the country for work was a lot less. There are loads of northern and midland teams now who have a substantial support base around London. More to the point, putting the likes of Oldham and Carlisle in with Chorley and Guisley would only be a short term fix, financially, however you organize leagues you run the risk of limiting the income of the bigger clubs and pulling too hard to drag the smaller ones up. No league structure on earth that I know of totally escapes that. The only one that comes close is the Highland League, mainly because there's nowhere for the lower clubs to fall so the likes of Fort William just go on (now as a proving ground for Inverness Caly). Even there, the bigger clubs are gradually being poached by their national league. A major change that would work more readily is a fairer division of money to the point the Premiershit doesn't take so much - which is what I've heard argued from an EFL chairman or two in the last few weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miracle Aligner 249 Posted July 30, 2020 Fucking hell the PL are an old boys club and a spineless one at that refusing the Saudi takeover. BT Sport and Sky cancelled, not giving those fuckers a penny again.... it's a cartel. 14 weeks of can kicking so they didn't have to look bad. A club that wanted to sell with new owners who wanted to buy kicked so far in the long grass they gave up so Dick Masters didn't have to take responsibility. The UAE are allowed to own Man City but god forbid the Saudi's own us. Fucking joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Miracle Aligner said: Fucking hell the PL are an old boys club and a spineless one at that refusing the Saudi takeover. BT Sport and Sky cancelled, not giving those fuckers a penny again.... it's a cartel. 14 weeks of can kicking so they didn't have to look bad. A club that wanted to sell with new owners who wanted to buy kicked so far in the long grass they gave up so Dick Masters didn't have to take responsibility. The UAE are allowed to own Man City but god forbid the Saudi's own us. Fucking joke. Well... In another reality, you start the season with no wins in five, and Steve Bruce heads into a hotel closely followed by eight big guys and a bone saw! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted July 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: Well... In another reality, you start the season with no wins in five, and Steve Bruce heads into a hotel closely followed by eight big guys and a bone saw! TBF I think most Newcastle fans would prefer it was Pie Guzzler Mike Cashley that went into the hotel room before Steve Bruce 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miracle Aligner 249 Posted July 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Wee Jum said: TBF I think most Newcastle fans would prefer it was Pie Guzzler Mike Cashley that went into the hotel room before Steve Bruce We'd also take Richard 'Cartel leader' Masters as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,689 Posted July 31, 2020 Having lived half a mile from Griffin Park in the early 2000s, I have a soft spot for Brentford (and a corresponding antipathy towards all other London/southern clubs) so it'd be nice to see them at the top table, if likely only for a year or two. To get there by beating local rivals Fulham in the play-off final would be the cherry on the icing, Brian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miracle Aligner 249 Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: You've got that wrong..... That's the current owners..... --- This is the consortium who was trying to by us.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,586 Posted August 2, 2020 On 31/07/2020 at 23:22, Miracle Aligner said: You've got that wrong..... That's the current owners..... --- This is the consortium who was trying to by us.... Clearly not three wise men Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted August 2, 2020 When Premiership players forget to take a knee... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/53632156 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted August 2, 2020 Fuck that, I wouldn't do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
