The Happy Reaper 223 Posted January 14, 2017 Ive never watched Star Wars and I never fucking want to. So there. Why do people who say things like this always sound as if they're boasting? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 15, 2017 Ive never watched Star Wars and I never fucking want to. So there. Why do people who say things like this always sound as if they're boasting?Because they haven't been suckered in by the hype of the US marketing machine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeyG 14 Posted January 17, 2017 Drewe Henley, Red Leader in A New Hope, died back on Valentine's Day. http://www.familynotices24.co.uk/emh/view/4010320/drewe-henley Also had roles in Z Cars and The Avengers. His former wives include Jacqueline Pearce and Felicity Kendal. Picked for the DDP, whether an obit is likely now is doubtful. No longer doubtful - Times Obit: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/obituaries/article4722566.ece An inquest into the death of Drewe Henley has heard that he choked to death while eating a fish pie. Shame for the DDP team who picked him, as unnatural death points cannot be awarded retrospectively. http://m.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/star-wars-actor-dies-at-rd-e-after-choking-on-his-lunch/story-30055802-detail/story.html Dammit! Bonus points would have been nice! Still, best year Wretched Hive had with 3 hits. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,903 Posted January 17, 2017 Drewe Henley, Red Leader in A New Hope, died back on Valentine's Day. http://www.familynotices24.co.uk/emh/view/4010320/drewe-henley Also had roles in Z Cars and The Avengers. His former wives include Jacqueline Pearce and Felicity Kendal. Picked for the DDP, whether an obit is likely now is doubtful. No longer doubtful - Times Obit: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/obituaries/article4722566.ece An inquest into the death of Drewe Henley has heard that he choked to death while eating a fish pie. Shame for the DDP team who picked him, as unnatural death points cannot be awarded retrospectively. http://m.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/star-wars-actor-dies-at-rd-e-after-choking-on-his-lunch/story-30055802-detail/story.html Dammit! Bonus points would have been nice! Still, best year Wretched Hive had with 3 hits. You did manage a unique though because I sent the wrong draft in. He was in my updated ITC actors theme, but I sent the original instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 23, 2017 For Morbid Kid and anyone else who cares, speculation that Luke Skywalker will die the next time Disney milks kids for their pocket money in the next Star Wars film: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-24/last-jedi-title-reveal-sends-star-wars-fan-into-tizzy/8206370 Might make sense to kill him off. You never know when Mark Hamill might do a Carrie Fisher! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dead Wait 1,129 Posted January 23, 2017 For Morbid Kid and anyone else who cares, speculation that Luke Skywalker will die the next time Disney milks kids for their pocket money in the next Star Wars film: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-24/last-jedi-title-reveal-sends-star-wars-fan-into-tizzy/8206370 Might make sense to kill him off. You never know when Mark Hamill might do a Carrie Fisher! So, they killed off Harrison Ford's character in ep7, Mark Hammill's (maybe) in ep8 and will probably have to kill off Carrie's in ep9 - well, I guess that completes the theme of the new trilogy eh?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dead Wait 1,129 Posted January 23, 2017 For Morbid Kid and anyone else who cares, speculation that Luke Skywalker will die the next time Disney milks kids for their pocket money in the next Star Wars film: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-24/last-jedi-title-reveal-sends-star-wars-fan-into-tizzy/8206370 Might make sense to kill him off. You never know when Mark Hamill might do a Carrie Fisher! So, they killed off Harrison Ford's character in ep7, Mark Hammill's (maybe) in ep8 and will probably have to kill off Carrie's in ep9 - well, I guess that completes the theme of the new trilogy eh?! I'm am of course assuming that the ep7 comment is not a spoiler as anyone who wanted to see it will have done by now and judging by the huge gross revenue there is nothing above that will come as a surprise...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 23, 2017 For Morbid Kid and anyone else who cares, speculation that Luke Skywalker will die the next time Disney milks kids for their pocket money in the next Star Wars film: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-24/last-jedi-title-reveal-sends-star-wars-fan-into-tizzy/8206370 Might make sense to kill him off. You never know when Mark Hamill might do a Carrie Fisher! So, they killed off Harrison Ford's character in ep7, Mark Hammill's (maybe) in ep8 and will probably have to kill off Carrie's in ep9 - well, I guess that completes the theme of the new trilogy eh?! I'm am of course assuming that the ep7 comment is not a spoiler as anyone who wanted to see it will have done by now and judging by the huge gross revenue there is nothing above that will come as a surprise...... The way they are milking it, the only surprise left will be how many episodes it will take Disney to kill the franchise as a whole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,572 Posted January 24, 2017 I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 24, 2017 I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was. Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,572 Posted January 24, 2017 I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was. Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. It is hardly dark and gritty. It is still basically a Star Wars film. It can get a bit clunky with them trying to shoe horn references to the original movies in and I was not happy about the necromancy of reanimating Peter Cushing (though Guy Henry) does a fair impression of the voice. The star of the film is undoubtedly the droid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 24, 2017 I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was. Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. It is hardly dark and gritty. It is still basically a Star Wars film. It can get a bit clunky with them trying to shoe horn references to the original movies in and I was not happy about the necromancy of reanimating Peter Cushing (though Guy Henry) does a fair impression of the voice. The star of the film is undoubtedly the droid. Okay, thanks. I still won't see it. (The only tempting thing is my inner seven year old would like to see Vader's castle but that wouldn't be enough for me to give Hollywood my money.) Are you interested in seeing Valerian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,572 Posted January 24, 2017 I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was. Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. It is hardly dark and gritty. It is still basically a Star Wars film. It can get a bit clunky with them trying to shoe horn references to the original movies in and I was not happy about the necromancy of reanimating Peter Cushing (though Guy Henry) does a fair impression of the voice. The star of the film is undoubtedly the droid. Okay, thanks. I still won't see it. (The only tempting thing is my inner seven year old would like to see Vader's castle but that wouldn't be enough for me to give Hollywood my money.) Are you interested in seeing Valerian? I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was. Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. It is hardly dark and gritty. It is still basically a Star Wars film. It can get a bit clunky with them trying to shoe horn references to the original movies in and I was not happy about the necromancy of reanimating Peter Cushing (though Guy Henry) does a fair impression of the voice. The star of the film is undoubtedly the droid. Okay, thanks. I still won't see it. (The only tempting thing is my inner seven year old would like to see Vader's castle but that wouldn't be enough for me to give Hollywood my money.) Are you interested in seeing Valerian? I had to look that up. This is a new one on me and I am not familiar with the source material. I see it has Rihanna in it. Will it be as good a Battleship? ;-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeyG 14 Posted January 24, 2017 Rogue One restored a bit of my faith in big screen episodes.Finally got the Vader scene I'd imagined would be in the prequels when they were announced mid 90's.Last few minutes best in the entire franchise for me.Don't let previous disappointments or the Disney milking get in the way of seeing a very good addition to the Star Was story.I'm still not getting excited just yet about The Last Jedi though.... although the addition of more names to be cherry picked for my Star Wars theme team is always welcome. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,572 Posted January 24, 2017 Disney is a massive commercial entity and they will merchandise a film to death. However since the moving on of Michael Eisner they have had enough commercial sense to allow the creative talents sufficient freedom to provide good quality entertainment that they can then merchandise to death. Both Rogue One and The Force Awakens benefited from not being written by George Lucas. Remember in recent years Disney have given us Pirates of the Carribbean, Frozen and the entire Pixar studio output. Mrs B and Baby B went to see Moana just before Christmas and they really enjoyed it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted January 24, 2017 I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was. Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. It is hardly dark and gritty. It is still basically a Star Wars film. It can get a bit clunky with them trying to shoe horn references to the original movies in and I was not happy about the necromancy of reanimating Peter Cushing (though Guy Henry) does a fair impression of the voice. The star of the film is undoubtedly the droid. Okay, thanks. I still won't see it. (The only tempting thing is my inner seven year old would like to see Vader's castle but that wouldn't be enough for me to give Hollywood my money.) Are you interested in seeing Valerian? Is that a biopic of the renowned herbal sleeping aid? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 26, 2017 For Morbid Kid and anyone else who cares, speculation that Luke Skywalker will die the next time Disney milks kids for their pocket money in the next Star Wars film: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-24/last-jedi-title-reveal-sends-star-wars-fan-into-tizzy/8206370 Might make sense to kill him off. You never know when Mark Hamill might do a Carrie Fisher! So, they killed off Harrison Ford's character in ep7, Mark Hammill's (maybe) in ep8 and will probably have to kill off Carrie's in ep9 - well, I guess that completes the theme of the new trilogy eh?!... At which point, Lando inherits the galaxy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 26, 2017 I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was.Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. It is hardly dark and gritty. It is still basically a Star Wars film. It can get a bit clunky with them trying to shoe horn references to the original movies in and I was not happy about the necromancy of reanimating Peter Cushing (though Guy Henry) does a fair impression of the voice. The star of the film is undoubtedly the droid. Okay, thanks. I still won't see it. (The only tempting thing is my inner seven year old would like to see Vader's castle but that wouldn't be enough for me to give Hollywood my money.) Are you interested in seeing Valerian? I thought Rogue One was quite good and probably more respectful to A New Hope than Revenge of the Sith was.Haven't seen it. I have absolutely zero interest in a "dark and gritty war film" version of Star Wars, which is what i have heard it described as. It would appeal to me even less than the main films do. I hold on to the slim hope that Valerian might be a good film. I like the comics so if they stay true to that and don't turn it into a big dumb action film it might be okay. It is hardly dark and gritty. It is still basically a Star Wars film. It can get a bit clunky with them trying to shoe horn references to the original movies in and I was not happy about the necromancy of reanimating Peter Cushing (though Guy Henry) does a fair impression of the voice. The star of the film is undoubtedly the droid. Okay, thanks. I still won't see it. (The only tempting thing is my inner seven year old would like to see Vader's castle but that wouldn't be enough for me to give Hollywood my money.) Are you interested in seeing Valerian? I had to look that up. This is a new one on me and I am not familiar with the source material. I see it has Rihanna in it. Will it be as good a Battleship? ;-) The comics I have read are good, for what they are. Not militaristic like Star Wars, thank heavens. (Confrontations with villains are resolved peacefully.) Valerian himself is almost a parody of a Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers style macho hero at time, blundering into danger from which Laureline has to rescue him. It touches on philosophical themes but not in as heavy handed a way as Star Trek. Goodness knows how many of these attributes will be retained in the film, though, or if it will just be turned into another big, dumb action blockbuster. Either way, it seems almost suicidal to be putting it out now, directly against a revitalised Star Wars... Anyway, it wasn't clear from your post if you have seen the trailer or not, so in case you haven't, here it is: Also, here is how Star Wars [allegedly] blatantly plagiarised the Valerian comics: https://nothingbutcomics.net/2015/12/14/valerian/ http://www.europecomics.com/a-model-for-star-wars/ As for Rogue One, having seen the film, Bibliogryphon, what do you think of this essay? This is the sort of reason why I don't like SW (that and the blatant commercialism): http://www.vulture.com/2016/12/star-wars-politics-violence.html Okay, better go back on topic before Paul Bearer tells us off. What do you think are the odds of John Williams lasting the distance for the sequel trilogy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 28, 2017 Someone has created a blog devoted to George Lucas' neck... Just flabby or a thyroid problem? http://georgelucasneck.tumblr.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted January 28, 2017 Someone has created a blog devoted to George Lucas' neck... Just flabby or a thyroid problem? http://georgelucasneck.tumblr.com His daughters are porkers too! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3361026/Stars-Wars-creator-George-Lucas-reveals-wants-obituary-say-films.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 29, 2017 //Off-topic @Bibliogryphon (and anyone else who is interested), the second Valerian trailer (full theatrical one) has now been released: Looks flashy and a lot of people are saying it may well be this year's surprise hit. Have to say I am really disappointed though in how different it seems from the comics (I refuse to call comics "graphic novels".) Guns were barely ever depicted in the comics yet count how many there are in this trailer; they are clearly going after the Yank market. Also, according to the film's official website, Valerian is a major in this (he wasn't military in the comics and was just referred to as "Mister") and the unnamed space/time ship is now called "The Intruder" and has been given a wisecracking talking computer. Sigh. I am still interested to see how it performs, though: if most casual filmgoers only visit the cinemas once or twice a year, this audience segment will have already been to see Rogue One and will be saving their money for the Last Jedi so will they go and see a film of a comic book that is virtually unknown in the Anglosphere? As the most expensive European film ever it could be the biggest flop of all time, too. //end off-topic On-topic: Carrie Fisher's still dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,572 Posted March 29, 2017 Would be rude not to reply off topic but John Carter anyone? On topic Caroline Blakiston is older than I thought she was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: Would be rude not to reply off topic but John Carter anyone? On topic Caroline Blakiston is older than I thought she was Yes, that's what I am thinking. It is similar to Carter in that it was a predecessor to today's franchises and heavily influenced them but most kids won't know/won't care. Hopefully the script will be a little more intelligent than Carter though but I can already see it is substantially different than the issue of the comic on which it was based (Ambassador of the Shadows: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_of_the_Shadows ) BTW, even the Shingouz mentioned in the Wiki page above have been renamed something the Doghan Daguis on the official sitefor unknown reasons and their personalities have been changed (maybe because they are too much like Watto from "The Phantom Menace". Also, there is this utter bollocks: "[Valerian and Laureline] form one of the finest partnerships in the human army." See here: http://valerianmovie.com/#/closerlook/ WTF?! In the comics, the time travel department is part of the civil service. Part of the joke is that, to us, they are having amazing adventures, but to them, they are just bored public servants looking forward to their next holidays. Screw this militaristic take on it. Also, they work for an interspecies empire called Galaxity, not somethign that is solely human. As Luke Skywalker would say, I have a baaaad feeling about this... I half hope it flops, too, since it is clearly just going to be an action shoot-'em-up version. On topic: I wonder who will be the first new SW actor to die? Will Daisy Ridley be able to handle the fame or will she go down Carrie's path? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,572 Posted March 29, 2017 Maybe this discussion should go in the Films thread of Extra-curricular. Keep on the right side of the Admins 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 29, 2017 Yes, probably. Anyway, my rant is over now. I having nothing further to add. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
