Windsor 2,210 Posted January 20, 2009 'List of the Banned' which could be updated on a rolling basis throughout the year, as and when local sob stories emerge. Any name that appears in this list would then be ineligible for selection, and if anyone goes ahead and picks them regardless, then they can either be refused entry, or (less draconian) they have automatically forfeited one member of their team, and must do with 19 Good idea, though I would say that when it's down to someone else to keep the list of the banned alive. Re the fame bit, there is also an issue where a famous for famous/famous for being ill candidate then goes on to achieve other things on the back of said fame. So - for example - Harry Patch is now a best-selling author, there are obit worthy candidates - like Edwin Morgan - who don't have book sales to rival 'The Last Fighting Tommy,' he might have come by the book deal by default, but it's still an achievement and - arguably - qualifies him to avoid any famous for being famous deductions. I think that WW1 veterans and the World's oldest are a difficult group to place. Personally, I would ban them because they are only famous due to their advanced age. For example, Patch didn't do anything extraordinary during WW1 - he did what was common for men of his generation to do. The only thing that makes him special is that most men of his generation are dead (and his book complicates things further). On the other hand, some could be seen as celebrities - Patch and Allingham especially so. To be honest, I'd be content if the famous for being ill rule only went as far as the likes of Joanne Evans, Tara Jones, Josie Grove, the drug trial men, etc, likes. I like the idea of a kind of 'blacklist' of names. But again, how do you regulate it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eejit 9 Posted January 20, 2009 PS. If you want an obit for her, instead of emailing the media about poor Joanne, you should email them enraged at the sick bastards who put her on deadpools. It might just be more newsworthy. Gah!, of course It just goes to show that even when you think you've been here a while and learned a few tricks, the experts are still miles ahead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,446 Posted January 20, 2009 The one problem with the above is that the story becomes more newsworthy when Mr or Mrs ***** of ***** ***** is prepared to say s/he is outraged. In other words, tell them who you are and where you live and they can sell it more easily. Of course, if that leads OoO or anyone else to identify you as the same person with the deadpool team they might feel themselves within their rights to cry foul. Your mum's mum is always a good bet, different name, old enough to be able to say; 'I didn't survive rationing and bring my kids up to live in a world that sees a dead housewife as sport,' or summat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eejit 9 Posted January 20, 2009 I might try and make contact with her family - let them know how outraged I was to find "this kind of garbage" online. Perhaps they'll make a fuss of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 20, 2009 'List of the Banned' which could be updated on a rolling basis throughout the year, as and when local sob stories emerge. Any name that appears in this list would then be ineligible for selection, and if anyone goes ahead and picks them regardless, then they can either be refused entry, or (less draconian) they have automatically forfeited one member of their team, and must do with 19 Good idea, though I would say that when it's down to someone else to keep the list of the banned alive. Re the fame bit, there is also an issue where a famous for famous/famous for being ill candidate then goes on to achieve other things on the back of said fame. So - for example - Harry Patch is now a best-selling author, there are obit worthy candidates - like Edwin Morgan - who don't have book sales to rival 'The Last Fighting Tommy,' he might have come by the book deal by default, but it's still an achievement and - arguably - qualifies him to avoid any famous for being famous deductions. I think that WW1 veterans and the World's oldest are a difficult group to place. Personally, I would ban them because they are only famous due to their advanced age. For example, Patch didn't do anything extraordinary during WW1 - he did what was common for men of his generation to do. The only thing that makes him special is that most men of his generation are dead (and his book complicates things further). On the other hand, some could be seen as celebrities - Patch and Allingham especially so. To be honest, I'd be content if the famous for being ill rule only went as far as the likes of Joanne Evans, Tara Jones, Josie Grove, the drug trial men, etc, likes. I like the idea of a kind of 'blacklist' of names. But again, how do you regulate it? What would be the point of banning the old crocks? There barely worth anything points wise anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,105 Posted January 20, 2009 I think the team was rejected mainly because he was being rude to the DDP organisers. He was already sulking with them because they did not accept and obit for one of his picks in 2006 (I seem to recall). It was more to do with the level of rudeness. And Rude Kid thought he was rude...! To be honest, it's more RK's story to tell, but to keep it simple 1) It was late 2) TF had an almighty strop about allowing the AP feed for obits & it was his reaction (completely over-reacting to a trivial matter in such a foul way) to that which saw his entry rejected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 20, 2009 I think the team was rejected mainly because he was being rude to the DDP organisers. He was already sulking with them because they did not accept and obit for one of his picks in 2006 (I seem to recall). It was more to do with the level of rudeness. And Rude Kid thought he was rude...! To be honest, it's more RK's story to tell, but to keep it simple 1) It was late 2) TF had an almighty strop about allowing the AP feed for obits & it was his reaction (completely over-reacting to a trivial matter in such a foul way) to that which saw his entry rejected. He always seemed a rather prickly character on the forum to me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geronimo 3 Posted January 20, 2009 I think the team was rejected mainly because he was being rude to the DDP organisers. He was already sulking with them because they did not accept and obit for one of his picks in 2006 (I seem to recall). It was more to do with the level of rudeness. And Rude Kid thought he was rude...! To be honest, it's more RK's story to tell, but to keep it simple 1) It was late 2) TF had an almighty strop about allowing the AP feed for obits & it was his reaction (completely over-reacting to a trivial matter in such a foul way) to that which saw his entry rejected. He always seemed a rather prickly character on the forum to me... Yup, dark, stroppy, obnoxious at times, a bit of a misanthrope. His views on the DL convention: I have no desire to be friends and make nice, I give not a flying f*ck about any of yoose. Much missed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,335 Posted January 22, 2009 Italian clinic withdraws offer to disconnect Eluana Englaro's feeding tubes. This story could run and run... Hopefully into 2010. I certainly hope not. Another clinic has stepped in to help her out. I do apologise for cluttering up the DDP thread with stories about this woman. Maybe she could have her own thread?? I never asked OoO at the time because he was so frazzled uploading everything, but will I get an unnatural death bonus if she is starved to death? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,210 Posted January 22, 2009 I never asked OoO at the time because he was so frazzled uploading everything, but will I get an unnatural death bonus if she is starved to death? Well it kind of is natural - she is in a coma- she can't feed herself-thus she will naturally die... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,335 Posted January 22, 2009 I never asked OoO at the time because he was so frazzled uploading everything, but will I get an unnatural death bonus if she is starved to death? Well it kind of is natural - she is in a coma- she can't feed herself-thus she will naturally die... Not that I'm that bothered about it, but she'll either die of dehydration/starvation, or, looking at the broader picture, as a direct result of injuries sustained in a car crash. I'll leave it to OoO to make the decision and take it really badly if it doesn't go my way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 22, 2009 Italian clinic withdraws offer to disconnect Eluana Englaro's feeding tubes. This story could run and run... Hopefully into 2010. I certainly hope not. Another clinic has stepped in to help her out. I do apologise for cluttering up the DDP thread with stories about this woman. Maybe she could have her own thread?? I never asked OoO at the time because he was so frazzled uploading everything, but will I get an unnatural death bonus if she is starved to death? You greedy git. You should be thankful for the 56,967 pts you'll get for if she carks it... I don't think it would merit unatural causes points because she is being legally obliged to die 'naturally'. No different than when someone is in a coma for a short while and it is decided not to keep them alive for much longer... However, this case may well be encouraging and this may well have qualified for unnatural causes points had anyone spotted this at the time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,335 Posted January 23, 2009 Italian clinic withdraws offer to disconnect Eluana Englaro's feeding tubes. This story could run and run... Hopefully into 2010. I certainly hope not. Another clinic has stepped in to help her out. I do apologise for cluttering up the DDP thread with stories about this woman. Maybe she could have her own thread?? I never asked OoO at the time because he was so frazzled uploading everything, but will I get an unnatural death bonus if she is starved to death? I don't think it would merit unatural causes points because she is being legally obliged to die 'naturally'. No different than when someone is in a coma for a short while and it is decided not to keep them alive for much longer... Good points, but surely if someone is "legally obliged" to die, then by definition, they will not be dying when Mother Nature might have intended. She is only in this predicament, by way of unnatural causes - a car crash. Just say she'd been in a vegatitive state for a month after a car crash and then died after her machines were switched off, I'd probably get an unnatural death points bonus. Should it make a difference because she's been brain dead for seventeen years? And can being starved to death on purpose ever be thought of as a "natural death"? I won't say any more on the subject, as I wouldn't want anyone to think that I really am bothered about the extra points. Heaven forbid! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 23, 2009 Italian clinic withdraws offer to disconnect Eluana Englaro's feeding tubes. This story could run and run... Hopefully into 2010. I certainly hope not. Another clinic has stepped in to help her out. I do apologise for cluttering up the DDP thread with stories about this woman. Maybe she could have her own thread?? I never asked OoO at the time because he was so frazzled uploading everything, but will I get an unnatural death bonus if she is starved to death? I don't think it would merit unatural causes points because she is being legally obliged to die 'naturally'. No different than when someone is in a coma for a short while and it is decided not to keep them alive for much longer... Good points, but surely if someone is "legally obliged" to die, then by definition, they will not be dying when Mother Nature might have intended. She is only in this predicament, by way of unnatural causes - a car crash. Just say she'd been in a vegatitive state for a month after a car crash and then died after her machines were switched off, I'd probably get an unnatural death points bonus. Should it make a difference because she's been brain dead for seventeen years? And can being starved to death on purpose ever be thought of as a "natural death"? I won't say anymore on the subject, as I wouldn't want anyone to think that I really am bothered about the extra points. Heaven forbid! Very good point. It is death delayed. I think there needs to be a more detailed set of rules behind the vaguer ones that are on the entry page. One that would definitively set out who counts as 'famous' or 'notable' and what news sources are required for an obit and what is considered a natural or unnatural death. All clauses and sub-clauses and stuff. Like the rules for Association Football. The official rules and regulations of the Derby Deadpool death prediction competition...something like that. Octopus, over to you.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,210 Posted January 23, 2009 Italian clinic withdraws offer to disconnect Eluana Englaro's feeding tubes. This story could run and run... Hopefully into 2010. I certainly hope not. Another clinic has stepped in to help her out. I do apologise for cluttering up the DDP thread with stories about this woman. Maybe she could have her own thread?? I never asked OoO at the time because he was so frazzled uploading everything, but will I get an unnatural death bonus if she is starved to death? I don't think it would merit unatural causes points because she is being legally obliged to die 'naturally'. No different than when someone is in a coma for a short while and it is decided not to keep them alive for much longer... Good points, but surely if someone is "legally obliged" to die, then by definition, they will not be dying when Mother Nature might have intended. She is only in this predicament, by way of unnatural causes - a car crash. Just say she'd been in a vegatitive state for a month after a car crash and then died after her machines were switched off, I'd probably get an unnatural death points bonus. Should it make a difference because she's been brain dead for seventeen years? And can being starved to death on purpose ever be thought of as a "natural death"? I won't say anymore on the subject, as I wouldn't want anyone to think that I really am bothered about the extra points. Heaven forbid! Very good point. It is death delayed. I think there needs to be a more detailed set of rules behind the vaguer ones that are on the entry page. One that would definitively set out who counts as 'famous' or 'notable' and what news sources are required for an obit and what is considered a natural or unnatural death. All clauses and sub-clauses and stuff. Like the rules for Association Football. The official rules and regulations of the Derby Deadpool death prediction competition...something like that. Octopus, over to you.... ...I think to merit the extra points for unnatural death, it has to be unexpected. For example, had you chosen her before the car accident (were she not just famous for being ill), that would be fine. However, she was chosen because she had previously been involved in a car accident...and because she was in a coma...and because you were expecting the feeding tube to be removed. She was already in a coma when you chose her, thus removing the feeding tube is as natural a death that you could expect from her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,105 Posted January 23, 2009 I think there needs to be a more detailed set of rules behind the vaguer ones that are on the entry page. One that would definitively set out who counts as 'famous' or 'notable' and what news sources are required for an obit and what is considered a natural or unnatural death. All clauses and sub-clauses and stuff. Like the rules for Association Football. The official rules and regulations of the Derby Deadpool death prediction competition...something like that. Octopus, over to you.... About DDT's woman. No extra points. And that is only because we've already had a precedent, with Choi Yo Sam or whatever his name was - the boxer. I felt that, no matter how he ended up in the coma, he still died of "natural causes". So if I didn't allow it for him, I can't then turn round & award it for Enguluaaulu or whatever she is called. Extra rules 1) clutter it up 2) considering the incredible stupidity of some DDP players, is it really wise to make things even MORE difficult with sub-clauses? 3) It's all very well me doing all this, but what if I give it up? It might be a lot of headaches for anyone taking over 4) It's a very antiquated system when it comes to entries etc. It may completely bollock up the system 5) I have enough work to do 6) "OoO's whim" works just fine for me... TMIB, If people are picking Bobby Moore, FFS as a pick, do you really think for one minute, they are going to read this & think.. oh, I can pick John Darwin but not Noel Martin but I can pick Bobby Robson but not Linda Uttley etc etc.? I'm all for a new rule(s) but it really has to be kept as simple as possible, from both the players & organiser's (me or anyone else) point of view & that's why it's a bit difficult to enforce so simply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 23, 2009 I think there needs to be a more detailed set of rules behind the vaguer ones that are on the entry page. One that would definitively set out who counts as 'famous' or 'notable' and what news sources are required for an obit and what is considered a natural or unnatural death. All clauses and sub-clauses and stuff. Like the rules for Association Football. The official rules and regulations of the Derby Deadpool death prediction competition...something like that. Octopus, over to you.... About DDT's woman. No extra points. And that is only because we've already had a precedent, with Choi Yo Sam or whatever his name was - the boxer. I felt that, no matter how he ended up in the coma, he still died of "natural causes". So if I didn't allow it for him, I can't then turn round & award it for Enguluaaulu or whatever she is called. Extra rules 1) clutter it up 2) considering the incredible stupidity of some DDP players, is it really wise to make things even MORE difficult with sub-clauses? 3) It's all very well me doing all this, but what if I give it up? It might be a lot of headaches for anyone taking over 4) It's a very antiquated system when it comes to entries etc. It may completely bollock up the system 5) I have enough work to do 6) "OoO's whim" works just fine for me... TMIB, If people are picking Bobby Moore, FFS as a pick, do you really think for one minute, they are going to read this & think.. oh, I can pick John Darwin but not Noel Martin but I can pick Bobby Robson but not Linda Uttley etc etc.? I'm all for a new rule(s) but it really has to be kept as simple as possible, from both the players & organiser's (me or anyone else) point of view & that's why it's a bit difficult to enforce so simply. What I mean is that the 'rules' when entering the competition would be the same ones that are on the DDP website, but there would exist a more detailed, definitive rules which is not mandatory reading, but useful for those who query points being allowed/ not allowed. Not everyone HAS to know, but it would be there. Anyway, I'll shut up about it now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 575 Posted January 26, 2009 UK obit for Billy Werber. It's the fourth one to the last. Well done to Lidders Late Lamentables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted February 1, 2009 Current Standings 1. Heaven Knows They're Miserable Now - 41 (4) 2. R.I.P. Up And Start Again - 28 (3) 3. The Newstreet Boys Death Squad - 25 (2) 4. If I'm Spared Myself, Of Course - 24 (3) 4. Carkers Convention 2009 - 24 (2) 6. Force 10 To Hell - 22 (1) 7. Brown Banana's - 21 (4) 8. Grobler's Stiff Ones - 20 (3) 8. Final Curtain - 20 (2) 8. Are You Still Dying, Darling? - 20 (1) 8. Konstabel Els And His Merry Harbingers - 20 (1) 8. Wake Up & Smell The Coffin - 20 (1) Naturally, being the leader after the first month, Heaven Knows They're Miserable Now is the player of the month! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,105 Posted February 12, 2009 Just a mention to anyone who goes on the site & sees: Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Don't worry - it's not been shut down or anything too serious - when trying to do the upload tonight, one of the anti-virus programs is causing a wobbly with the FTP package which I use to update the site - because that can't load, I can't amend or access the site. I've tried fiddling with it for a bit now, but it's far too late now & I need to get sleep for work tomorrow, so I've given up tonight & will try & fix it tomorrow & upload the updates tomorrow evening instead. I certainly don't want to leave the site with that message over the weekend, so I hope it'll be okay for 24 hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,335 Posted February 20, 2009 UK obit for Harry Hill, from The Sun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted March 1, 2009 Current Standings 1. Heaven Knows They're Miserable Now - 59 (6) 2. The Living End - 54 (4) 3. Brown Banana's - 37 (5) 4. International House Of Death - 33 (5) 5. If I'm Spared Myself, Of Course - 32 (4) 5. Carkers Convention 2009 - 32 (3) 7. The Last Gasp - 31 (3) 8. Grobler's Stiff Ones - 30 (4) 9. The Terry Fenwick Invitational Select XI 29 (2) EIGHT teams at #10: (Deceased Hose, Final Curtain, Master Mind, Meet Your Maker, Now That's What I Call SIGNIFICANT 2009, R.I.P. It Up And Start Again, Are You Still Dying, Darling?, Wake Up And Smell The Coffin) 28 Player of the Month - The Living End (44pts) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,446 Posted March 1, 2009 Don't wanna be premature or owt but.......below is the line up of teams awaiting the Goody news. A few jokers amongst them and not one in the current top four. If the 27 year old should choose March 13th as the final day, it would pack the peleton somewhat. Addams Family Christmas Card List 2008A Kick In The Ghoulies Alison The Assassin Are You Still Dying, Darling? Armchair Morgue Bananies Biologically Dead Brown Bread Burke'N'Hare Burn Baby Burn Busby's Babes C'mon... Who Doesn't Want Me To Get 20/20 Darling Did You Forget To Take A Breath? Dave's Bunglalow Of Death Dead By Dawn Dead Centre Of England Dead Enders Deader Than A Dead Thing Livin' On A Prayer Dead Ringers Dead Dogs Won't Play Fetch Deathglam Industries Death Stalks United Die, Die, Die My Darling Died In A Nasty Accident Die Now....Die Now....Show Us You've Pegged Drop Dead Celebration Going Green Graham Reaper's Dead Army Grim Rita Guess Who's Dead? Guild Of Master Reapers Gwynhafyr Heart Attack, Liver Failure? Excellent! Loadsa Points How Clean Is Your Hearse? How Much For Those Stem Cells? I Am Jack's Complete Lack Of A Pulse I Drink Your Milkshake I'll Pick 'Em Till They Croak Irish Rover It Doesn't Hurt It Just Smells It's Life Jim It's Worse Than That, He's Dead Jim! It Tolls For Thee Jellydead Jesus Jones Living In A Box Madonna's Hand of Bod Morbid Curiosity Morbid United FC My Toes Are Real People Nice Little Urner No Noose Is Good Noose Now That's What I Call SIGNIFICANT 2009 One Bar Gas Fire And A Tin Of Dog Food Optimus Prime's Rusty Nuts Over My Dead Body The Pale Rider Owt To Stop Me Coffin? Past Their Sell By Date Pop The Clog! Prunella Vulgaris Rotters Mike Oxards Showbusiness 20 Six Foot Under Sometimes They Come Back Forgotten But Not Gone Stiff As A Board Stiff & the Tears The Beatles Are Dying In The Wrong Order The Caulkhead Coffin-Kickers 2009 Crematorium Cheerleaders The Deadest Man In Deadonia Not Sleeping Just Bloody Dead Redmega's Megadead Malingerers The Dorset Jury The Voodoo Gurus Toasted Brown Bread Today's The Day The Maggots Have Their Picnic Tonight Matthew I'm Going To Be Badly-Torn Boy To The Other Side Valley of Death Wasn't It From A Dirty Harry Film? We're Your Friends To The Bitter End.... Who Turned Out The Lights? As You Wave Us Goodbye Wishy-Washy Wormer, He's a Dead Man! Marmalard, Dead! Niedermeyer... You Keep Hanging On Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,105 Posted March 4, 2009 Well, it's all excitement at DDP Towers as one of the selected candidates (no, not me) has sent a very, very nice e-mail to say they're not as ill as rumoured, can I please remove them from the site & let people know, as apparently it's hurting their career prospects by people seeing the information from a Google search. And no, it's not Jade Goody. I have agreed to remove them from the main site, but I will keep them on as a candidate this year technically. All to be revealed Thursday, but it's not good news for two of the DL's fratenity and 6 teams all in all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scream Posted March 4, 2009 Could it be .. Oh, I don't know .. Alfonso Antoniozzi? He's young enough, his illness was a hoax, and he was selected by Eejit and Nap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites