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Rough week for pro wrestling with both Crockett and Inoki being reported dead. 

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Still, should be a good issue of the Wrestling Observer.

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Old Hisashi seems to be fit as a fiddle. He has literally said Antonio Inoki will never die, so we wait for 2021 to disprove him. 

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Isn't Inoki the one who fought Muhammad Ali in an exhibition back in 1976 IIRC?

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2 hours ago, The Red Death said:

Isn't Inoki the one who fought Muhammad Ali in an exhibition back in 1976 IIRC?

 

 

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On 04/10/2020 at 17:44, Spade_Cooley said:

Buddy Colt (b.1940) - Was pilot in the plane crash that killed Bobby Shane and also shortened the careers of Gary Hart and Austin Idol in 1975

Buddy Colt suddenly dead at 81:

https://lastwordonsports.com/prowrestling/2021/03/05/nwa-star-buddy-colt-passes-away/amp/

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Someone to keep an eye on is Shane McMahon. Last night on RAW he looked extremely unwell, Out of Breath, Barely able to speak & sweating & red. Almost like the final appearance of Ultimate Warrior before his death.

 

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He's 100% going to die before his father. He looks like the Ultimate Warrior in his final days out there.

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Could we have a trifecta this year? Shane, Vince, & Vince's Mom Victoria, all dying this year?

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1 hour ago, Lewd_Squirrel said:

Could we have a trifecta this year? Shane, Vince, & Vince's Mom Victoria, all dying this year?

 

Vince is immortal. 

 

Afterall, he's a cyborg, ya know. 

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On 29/07/2018 at 18:30, alt obits guy said:

Also picked up by a few other wrestling sites.  Won't be long before it breaks mainstream.  Would never have thought he'd go before his long-time partner the Iron Sheik.

 

 

79 today...

Will the Iron Sheik live to 80?

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41 minutes ago, arghton said:

79 today...

Will the Iron Sheik live to 80?

 

Short answer; yes.

Long answer; yeeeeeeeeeees

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Given Sheik apparently cut a few years off his age when he moved to the US  then yes, I think he'll see 80! :D

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1 hour ago, msc said:

Given Sheik apparently cut a few years off his age when he moved to the US  then yes, I think he'll see 80! :D


Hmmm interesting. I think this may have already been accounted for though? His Wiki has a 1942 date, from various sources.

In the public records, he appears as 1945 (I've removed his addresses for data privacy):
 

Name: Hossein K Vaziri[Khosrow Vaziri][Kosrow Vaziri][Vaziri Kosrow]
Birth Date: Sep 1945
Residence Date: 1984-2007
Address:  
Residence: Fayetteville, Georgia, USA
Postal Code:  
Second Residence Date: 2008-2017
Second Address:  
Second Residence: Fayetteville, Georgia, USA
Second Postal Code:  
Third Residence Date: 1983-2011
Third Address:  
Third Residence: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Third Postal Code:  
Fourth Address:  
Fourth Residence: Fayetteville, Georgia, USA
Fourth Postal Code:  


Note it also says September when he was born in March but this is explained on his Wiki page too: "Although his official date of birth is 15 March 1942, he celebrates it on 9 September due to differences between the Gregorian and Solar Hijri calendars."

So did he fudge his real birth year of 1942 on Iranian papers before entering the States or is 1945 accurate?

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5 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Hmmm interesting. I think this may have already been accounted for though? His Wiki has a 1942 date, from various sources.

In the public records, he appears as 1945 (I've removed his addresses for data privacy):
 

Name: Hossein K Vaziri[Khosrow Vaziri][Kosrow Vaziri][Vaziri Kosrow]
Birth Date: Sep 1945
Residence Date: 1984-2007
Address:  
Residence: Fayetteville, Georgia, USA
Postal Code:  
Second Residence Date: 2008-2017
Second Address:  
Second Residence: Fayetteville, Georgia, USA
Second Postal Code:  
Third Residence Date: 1983-2011
Third Address:  
Third Residence: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Third Postal Code:  
Fourth Address:  
Fourth Residence: Fayetteville, Georgia, USA
Fourth Postal Code:  


So did he fudge his real birth year of 1942 on Iranian papers before entering the States or is 1945 accurate?

 

It's complicated. In the last 20+ years, 5 separate years of birth have been spread about by Sheik (1940, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1945), and because of his early life  (his family were on the wrong side of one of the many Iranian political disputes and had to leave in a hurry) he has been content to fudge the details considerably ie it was reported WWE didn't want him taking a bump in the gimmick battle royal at the time as he was in his 60s (2001), and he had a big show of his 65th birthday circa 2005-6 from memory, yet later on he hoped to see 75 in that documentary made 2017 and so on. In short, the above is the "official" age, 1942 is currently his accepted "real" age, and god knows what his actual age is.

 

For the benefits of the DDP, we'll take whatever the obits claim!

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How many Yokozunas are currently alive? Feels like they've been dropping like flies during the last years, earliest alive seems to be Kitanofuji Katsuaki, the 52nd yokozuna

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On 16/03/2021 at 18:26, arghton said:

How many Yokozunas are currently alive? Feels like they've been dropping like flies during the last years, earliest alive seems to be Kitanofuji Katsuaki, the 52nd yokozuna

Alive:

 

52 Kitanoji Katsuaki (born 1942) Became Yokozuna in 1970, still a commentator as of 2021.

56 Wakanohana Kanji II (born 1953) Became Yokozuna in 1978, left the Japan Sumo Association in 2013 due to poor health.

57 Mienoumi Tsuyoshi (born 1948) Became Yokozuna in 1979. Now a director of a Sumo Museum in Tokyo.

61 Hokutoumi Nobuyoshi (born 1963) Became Yokozuna in 1987, retired in 1992 at age 28 due to injuries. Now the chairman of the Japan Sumo Association.

62 Onokuni Yasushi (born 1962) Became Yokozuna in 1987. Has had a ton of health problems including sleep apnea and leg problems, retired early but came back and retired again.

63 Asahifuji Seiya (born 1960) Became Yokozuna in 1990, retired in 1992 due to pancreas problems. Still a coach.

64 Akebono Taro (born 1969) Became Yokozuna in 1993, retired in 2001. Once weighted 233kg/514lb, has heart problems and unable to walk.

65 Takanohana Koji (born 1972) Became Yokozuna in 1994, retired in 2003. Has had liver issues and illnesses but one of the most healthiest people on this list.

66 Masaru Wakanohana Hanada (born 1971) Became Yokozuna in 1998, retired 2000. Older brother of Takanohana Koji and unlike him, hasn't lost as much weight.

67 Musashimaru Koyo (born 1971) Became Yokozuna in 1999, retired in 2003. A few kilograms heavier than Akebono Taro and has a kidney transplant. Now a stable owner.

68 Asashoryu Akinori (born 1980) Became Yokozuna in 2003, forced to retire in 2010. Has/had acute stress disorder and dissociative disorder, also a millionaire.

69 Hakuho Sho (born 1985) Became Yokozuna in 2007, still active. Was hospitalized in january due to COVID.

70 Harumafuji Kohei (born 1984) Became Yokozuna in 2012, career ended in 2017 when he assaulted another wrestler.

71 Kakuryu Rikisaburo (born 1985) Became Yokozuna in 2014, still active.

72 Kisenosato Yutaka (born 1986) Became Yokozuna in 2017, retired in 2019 due to injuries.

 

 

Ones that have died since 2016: 49 Tochinoumi Teruyoshi (1938-2021), 50 Sadanoyama (1938-2017), 54 Hiroshi Wajima (1948-2018), 58 Chiyonofuji Mitsugu (1955-2016) and 60 Koji Kitao (1963-2019)

 

 

Alive rijichōs of the Japan Sumo Association:

1998-2002 Yutakayama Katsuo (born 1937)

2008-2010 Mienoumi Tsuyoshi (born 1948) 57th Yokozuna

2015-present Hokutoumi Nobuyoshi (born 1963) 61st Yokozuna

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Barry Orton, a preliminary WWE wrestler whose career was overshadowed by his father's, brother's and nephew's, has died. He was 62. The son of Bob Orton Sr., brother of Bob Orton Jr. and uncle of Randy Orton, Barry worked for the WWE in the mid 1980s as part of a decade-long career, but never achieved the fame of his family.

 

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/03/barry-orton-passes-away-at-age-62/

 

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Updating the notable wrestlers or wrestling personalities who are older than or will turn 70 in 2021. As you can see from the Wiki list, not yet dead old timer wrestlers keep being found down the back of various sofas as no one was keeping records in the 50s - however, I've stuck to adding the few new names who might get you a QO in various deadpools. Caswell Martin (born 1932) lives, for example, but wont pick up a QO for anything, outside of maybe the Deathrace.

 

1922 - Joe D'orazio

1926 - Bill Mercer

1929 - Samson Burke

1931 - Tony Marino, Hank Garrett

1932 - Dominic Denucci,  Gene LaBell

1934 - Bob Uecker (WWE HOFer, baseball player)

1935 - Jack Lanza, Hisashi Shima, Dory Dixon, Ted Lewin, Earl Maynard*

1936 - Eddie Sharkey

1937 - Mark Lewin, Jim Breaks (age given when arrested), Angelo Mosca, Paul Vachon

1938 - Jody Hamilton, Ted Turner

1939 - Billy White Wolf, Bill Watts, Jim Herd

1940 - Baron Van Raschke, Iron Sheik (circa), Sweet Daddy Siki, Les Thatcher, Adrian Street, Alan Kilby, Spiros Arion

1941 - Abdullah the Butcher, Dory Funk Jr, Gino Brito, Ivan Putski, Thunderbolt Patterson, Kendo Nagasaki

1942 - JJ Dillon, Mil Mascaras, Jimmy Valiant, Ken Patera, Afa, Johnny Saint, Jerry Jarrett, Ole Anderson, Jack Veneno

1943 - Antonio Inoki, Superstar Billy Graham, Bill Dundee

1944 - Jimmy Hart, Terry Funk, Butch, Tiger Jeet Singh, Bobby Duncum Sr,

1945 - Ronnie Garvin, Sika, Vince McMahon, Pete Doherty, Colonel DeBeers

1946 - Gerry Brisco, Tony Garea, David Crockett

1947 - Luke, George Wells, Ax, Teddy Long, Killer Khan, Tommy Young

1948 - Black Bart, Sgt Slaughter, Linda McMahon, Carlos Colon, Greg Gagne, Great Kabuki, Tiger Chung Lee, Rob Fuller

1949 - Ric Flair, Dave and Earl Hebner, Jerry Lawler, Jim Brunzell, Bob Backlund, Stan Hansen, Don Muraco, Mike Adamle, Kevin Sullivan, Paul Orndorff, Zeb Colter, Austin Idol

1950 - Iceman King Parsons, Genichiro Tenryu , Greg Valentine, Bob Orton Jr

1951 - Bruce Hart, Jesse Ventura, Larry Zybysko, Skinner, Riki Choshu, Buck Zumhofe (a horrible, horrible person)

 

*won some tag titles with a very young Rocky Johnson so his route to an obit is "Rock mourns friend of dad" - very very slim but not non-existent! 

 

1950 and 1951 have no staying power so far.

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7 hours ago, msc said:

Updating the notable wrestlers or wrestling personalities who are older than or will turn 70 in 2021. As you can see from the Wiki list, not yet dead old timer wrestlers keep being found down the back of various sofas as no one was keeping records in the 50s - however, I've stuck to adding the few new names who might get you a QO in various deadpools. Caswell Martin (born 1932) lives, for example, but wont pick up a QO for anything, outside of maybe the Deathrace.

 

1922 - Joe D'orazio

1926 - Bill Mercer

1929 - Samson Burke

1931 - Tony Marino, Hank Garrett

1932 - Dominic Denucci,  Gene LaBell

1934 - Bob Uecker (WWE HOFer, baseball player)

1935 - Jack Lanza, Hisashi Shima, Dory Dixon, Ted Lewin, Earl Maynard*

1936 - Eddie Sharkey

1937 - Mark Lewin, Jim Breaks (age given when arrested), Angelo Mosca, Paul Vachon

1938 - Jody Hamilton, Ted Turner

1939 - Billy White Wolf, Bill Watts, Jim Herd

1940 - Baron Van Raschke, Iron Sheik (circa), Sweet Daddy Siki, Les Thatcher, Adrian Street, Alan Kilby, Spiros Arion

1941 - Abdullah the Butcher, Dory Funk Jr, Gino Brito, Ivan Putski, Thunderbolt Patterson, Kendo Nagasaki

1942 - JJ Dillon, Mil Mascaras, Jimmy Valiant, Ken Patera, Afa, Johnny Saint, Jerry Jarrett, Ole Anderson, Jack Veneno

1943 - Antonio Inoki, Superstar Billy Graham, Bill Dundee

1944 - Jimmy Hart, Terry Funk, Butch, Tiger Jeet Singh, Bobby Duncum Sr,

1945 - Ronnie Garvin, Sika, Vince McMahon, Pete Doherty, Colonel DeBeers 

1946 - Gerry Brisco, Tony Garea, David Crockett

1947 - Luke, George Wells, Ax, Teddy Long, Killer Khan, Tommy Young

1948 - Black Bart, Sgt Slaughter, Linda McMahon, Carlos Colon, Greg Gagne, Great Kabuki, Tiger Chung Lee, Rob Fuller

1949 - Ric Flair, Dave and Earl Hebner, Jerry Lawler, Jim Brunzell, Bob Backlund, Stan Hansen, Don Muraco, Mike Adamle, Kevin Sullivan, Paul Orndorff, Zeb Colter, Austin Idol

1950 - Iceman King Parsons, Genichiro Tenryu , Greg Valentine, Bob Orton Jr

1951 - Bruce Hart, Jesse Ventura, Larry Zybysko, Skinner, Riki Choshu, Buck Zumhofe (a horrible, horrible person)

 

*won some tag titles with a very young Rocky Johnson so his route to an obit is "Rock mourns friend of dad" - very very slim but not non-existent! 

 

1950 and 1951 have no staying power so far.

 

The Iron Shiek could be added to 1942

 

EDIT - Just noticed he is in 1940  According to wiki he was born in 1942

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2 minutes ago, RIP Wee Jum said:

 

The Iron Shiek could be added to 1942


@msc has him listed already, under 1940. See the conversation above.

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7 hours ago, msc said:

Updating the notable wrestlers or wrestling personalities who are older than or will turn 70 in 2021. As you can see from the Wiki list, not yet dead old timer wrestlers keep being found down the back of various sofas as no one was keeping records in the 50s - however, I've stuck to adding the few new names who might get you a QO in various deadpools. Caswell Martin (born 1932) lives, for example, but wont pick up a QO for anything, outside of maybe the Deathrace.

 

 

Great list. Nicely done. Honestly thought that Mercer had already passed.

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31 minutes ago, Genfærd said:

 

Great list. Nicely done. Honestly thought that Mercer had already passed.

 

ngl, I thought he died in 2019 or 2020 too until I double checked!

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12 hours ago, msc said:

Updating the notable wrestlers or wrestling personalities who are older than or will turn 70 in 2021. As you can see from the Wiki list, not yet dead old timer wrestlers keep being found down the back of various sofas as no one was keeping records in the 50s - however, I've stuck to adding the few new names who might get you a QO in various deadpools. Caswell Martin (born 1932) lives, for example, but wont pick up a QO for anything, outside of maybe the Deathrace.

 

1922 - Joe D'orazio

1926 - Bill Mercer

1929 - Samson Burke

1931 - Tony Marino, Hank Garrett

1932 - Dominic Denucci,  Gene LaBell

1934 - Bob Uecker (WWE HOFer, baseball player)

1935 - Jack Lanza, Hisashi Shima, Dory Dixon, Ted Lewin, Earl Maynard*

1936 - Eddie Sharkey

1937 - Mark Lewin, Jim Breaks (age given when arrested), Angelo Mosca, Paul Vachon

1938 - Jody Hamilton, Ted Turner

1939 - Billy White Wolf, Bill Watts, Jim Herd

1940 - Baron Van Raschke, Iron Sheik (circa), Sweet Daddy Siki, Les Thatcher, Adrian Street, Alan Kilby, Spiros Arion

1941 - Abdullah the Butcher, Dory Funk Jr, Gino Brito, Ivan Putski, Thunderbolt Patterson, Kendo Nagasaki

1942 - JJ Dillon, Mil Mascaras, Jimmy Valiant, Ken Patera, Afa, Johnny Saint, Jerry Jarrett, Ole Anderson, Jack Veneno

1943 - Antonio Inoki, Superstar Billy Graham, Bill Dundee

1944 - Jimmy Hart, Terry Funk, Butch, Tiger Jeet Singh, Bobby Duncum Sr,

1945 - Ronnie Garvin, Sika, Vince McMahon, Pete Doherty, Colonel DeBeers

1946 - Gerry Brisco, Tony Garea, David Crockett

1947 - Luke, George Wells, Ax, Teddy Long, Killer Khan, Tommy Young

1948 - Black Bart, Sgt Slaughter, Linda McMahon, Carlos Colon, Greg Gagne, Great Kabuki, Tiger Chung Lee, Rob Fuller

1949 - Ric Flair, Dave and Earl Hebner, Jerry Lawler, Jim Brunzell, Bob Backlund, Stan Hansen, Don Muraco, Mike Adamle, Kevin Sullivan, Paul Orndorff, Zeb Colter, Austin Idol

1950 - Iceman King Parsons, Genichiro Tenryu , Greg Valentine, Bob Orton Jr

1951 - Bruce Hart, Jesse Ventura, Larry Zybysko, Skinner, Riki Choshu, Buck Zumhofe (a horrible, horrible person)

 

*won some tag titles with a very young Rocky Johnson so his route to an obit is "Rock mourns friend of dad" - very very slim but not non-existent! 

 

1950 and 1951 have no staying power so far.

 

I kinda hope he lives a long time knowing where he now, but I also kinda hope he dies soon as I know where he is going.

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Mick Foley is campaigning for Lex Luger to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. Being as the last two wrestlers he did this for were Chyna in 2015 and Vader in 2017, I think it might be time to add the Lex Express to your longlists.

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