Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted April 22, 2020 Way to leave us hanging CoffinLodger... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khoi Huynh 4 Posted April 23, 2020 6 hours ago, CoffinLodger said: Some fairly credible sources now saying Kim Jong Un is dead.We'll have to wait a few days to see if it's credible or not but it is starting to look more and more likely it's true. i cant find any Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted April 23, 2020 Maybe I've got it wrong..They're not saying he is actually dead,it's more speculative of what would happen if he had died. For example this https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/death-of-kim-jong-un-could-require-massive-military-response/ and this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kim-jong-un-health-sister-yo-jong-north-korea-a9477331.html I have probably over interpreted it.But I doubt they would be talking this way unless something is seriously wrong. But like I say I could have got it wrong.If there's any truth in it we're bound to find out in the next few days one way or another ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,220 Posted April 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, CoffinLodger said: Maybe I've got it wrong..They're not saying he is actually dead,it's more speculative of what would happen if he had died. For example this https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/death-of-kim-jong-un-could-require-massive-military-response/ and this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/kim-jong-un-health-sister-yo-jong-north-korea-a9477331.html I have probably over interpreted it.But I doubt they would be talking this way unless something is seriously wrong. But like I say I could have got it wrong.If there's any truth in it we're bound to find out in the next few days one way or another ... It’s nothing more than media speculation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc 84 Posted April 23, 2020 If he is actually dead it will be the death of the decade, then again the way it’s started off, it might not be the death of the year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted April 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Doc said: If he is actually dead it will be the death of the decade, then again the way it’s started off, it might not be the death of the year. He's not though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dead Wait 1,129 Posted April 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Doc said: If he is actually dead it will be the death of the decade, then again the way it’s started off, it might not be the death of the year. Can’t work out the logic on someone being the death of a decade but NOT the death of the year?!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted April 23, 2020 19 hours ago, Khoi Huynh said: i cant find any Interesting article that might shed some light on the rumours ... https://www.vox.com/2020/4/23/21232665/north-korea-kim-jong-un-coronavirus-sick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,937 Posted April 24, 2020 Quick recap. CNN and Bloomberg report he underwent cardiac stent surgery and is in critical conditions following complications; they claim to have independent sources for that. This guy, an Italian scholar living in Bejing with close ties to the Communist Party, adfirms Kim is already dead and they are planning succesion. He claims China sent a team of doctors from Bejing to save his life, but they failed. Trump called the CNN report "fake news" (and you know Trump is a dork), Sydney Morning Herald adfirms Kim was visiting some touristic sites these past days, but NK media did not mention anything (and they usually follow Kim's routine closely). Personally I still think he will reappear out of nothing like Jiang Zemin in 2012. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,101 Posted April 24, 2020 If he's dead, I'm certain they'll get a body double to fool the people for a number of years, then announce his death in 2050. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bentrovato 1,087 Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Paul Bearer said: If he's dead, I'm certain they'll get a body double to fool the people for a number of years, then announce his death in 2050. Kim Yo-jung, the Sister of the Supreme Life, the Goddess who was born under a stone and fought the legions of darkness rearing up from the core of the Earth. She will vanquish then and bring honour on her people. She will guard that cave where her grandfather waited until he was called. Her beauty will enthral the world and send all men into submission. Her beauty is so that you can never lay eyes upon her nor utter her name more than three times. This is the word. This is the next coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genfærd 452 Posted April 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Paul Bearer said: If he's dead, I'm certain they'll get a body double to fool the people for a number of years, then announce his death in 2050. Yeah, they just have to fatten his doppelgänger up so he match the some 130kgs Kim weigh(s or ed). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,937 Posted April 24, 2020 Yes, China seems to "confirm" he is dead. I still think he is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,937 Posted April 24, 2020 Actually I just read a source which adfirms he likely broke his ankle on 14th April and will reappear when he will be able to walk again. Anyway, nothing serious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted April 24, 2020 I have no idea who this "Italian scholar" is – a self appointed expert by the sounds, but before this continues going round and round in circles, I'd just like to remind others on here that we went through this constant stream of rumours, speculation and conspiracies about Kim Jong-il when he was alive. And yet, when he did actually die (suddenly, and from a heart attack) his death was announced by the North Koreans within hours. It is totally against the interests of the North Korean regime to delay or cover up the death of their leader. For their totalitarian regime it actually works in their favour as it elevates the leader to being some kind of an eternal figure for them. A "saint" if you will. That, and the fact that behind closed doors there will be a successor in mind, and if Jong-un dies, the role will simply be carried over to the next person. Right now, that's likely to be his younger sister as his own children are too young. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,220 Posted April 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: I have no idea who this "Italian scholar" is – a self appointed expert by the sounds, but before this continues going round and round in circles, I'd just like to remind others on here that we went through this constant stream of rumours, speculation and conspiracies about Kim Jong-il when he was alive. And yet, when he did actually die (suddenly, and from a heart attack) his news was announced by the North Koreans within several hours. It is totally against the interests of the North Korean regime to delay or cover up the death of their leader. For their totalitarian regime it actually works in their favour as it elevates the leader to being some kind of an eternal figure for them. A "saint" if you will. That, and the fact that behind closed doors there will be a successor in mind, and if Jong-un dies, the role will simply be carried over to the next person. Right now, that's likely to be his younger sister as his own children are too young. I think they did wait 48 hours or so to announce Jong-il’s death iirc, but there was none of this speculation that he likely died at that point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Joey Russ said: I think they did wait 48 hours or so to announce Jong-il’s death iirc, but there was none of this speculation that he likely died at that point... Maybe true, though I recall there being rumours on several instances over several years that he had died (plus many who believed he had in fact died years ago and had been replaced by a double). Suppose they have to announce the death when the leader eventually runs out of doubles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted April 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Maybe true, though I recall there being rumours on several instances over several years that he had died (plus many who believed he had in fact died years ago and had been replaced by a double). Suppose they have to announce the death when the leader eventually runs out of doubles. People or chins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted April 24, 2020 4 hours ago, drol said: Actually I just read a source which adfirms he likely broke his ankle on 14th April and will reappear when he will be able to walk again. Anyway, nothing serious. If it was merely a broken ankle. Surely they'd have put him in front of the cameras at some stage meeting Generals or whatever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 281 Posted April 25, 2020 Korea Central TV, North Korea's only station, is oddly on air at the moment. The station is usually off air on Saturdays, which makes it strange. They're showing a pre-recorded propaganda puff piece at the moment. Something is obviously up - a coup perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted April 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, JQW said: Korea Central TV, North Korea's only station, is oddly on air at the moment. The station is usually off air on Saturdays, which makes it strange. They're showing a pre-recorded propaganda puff piece at the moment. Something is obviously up - a coup perhaps? Very interesting. Will be keeping a close eye on that as the day goes on ! Are they wearing black by any chance? It's more likely to be the announcement of Kims death rather than a coup but we'll see... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genfærd 452 Posted April 25, 2020 Soooo... Today could be the day? This could surely be interesting. Edit: I can see that a picture of the deceased dictator is flooding around but it could easily be faked. Chinese sources tells that his sister will be the new dictator of NK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 281 Posted April 25, 2020 They're just showing a montage of patriotic songs at the moment, nothing more. News usually goes out at 5pm local time, which is just over an hour away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted April 25, 2020 Just seen on twitter someone called @katyturNBC has reported Kim Jong Un is brain dead and in a coma quoting 2 US diplomatic sources. .She has a verified twitter account but some people are casting doubt on her claim. I guess we'll find out soon if there's any truth in it ! Hong Kong tv are reporting his death- a Chinese delegation is travelling to North Korea to verify if he is still alive or not...https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-sends-doctors-to-north-korea-as-rumors-on-kim-jong-uns-health-swirl/ar-BB13aiqb Surely if Kim was alive and well there's no way they would let speculation go on this long without making an announcement ! It's increasingly obvious something major has happened ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
