JR976evil 906 Posted January 1, 2013 she was on my list of possibles this time round altho didnt quite make it. personally i dont think she will ever stand down - could you imagine the upset of a queen camilla Camilla won't become Queen, she will take the title of Princess Consort when Charles becomes King http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Consort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted January 1, 2013 she was on my list of possibles this time round altho didnt quite make it. personally i dont think she will ever stand down - could you imagine the upset of a queen camilla Camilla won't become Queen, she will take the title of Princess Consort when Charles becomes King http://en.wikipedia....rincess_Consort Assuming she and Prince Charles outlive the Queen, Camilla will be the Queen Consort, whether people like it or not. Just as she is currently the Princess of Wales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted January 1, 2013 she was on my list of possibles this time round altho didnt quite make it. personally i dont think she will ever stand down - could you imagine the upset of a queen camilla Camilla won't become Queen, she will take the title of Princess Consort when Charles becomes King http://en.wikipedia....rincess_Consort Assuming she and Prince Charles outlive the Queen, Camilla will be the Queen Consort, whether people like it or not. Just as she is currently the Princess of Wales. Ahem http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/ThePrinceofWales/ThePrinceofWales.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 1, 2013 There's no such thing as a Princess Consort. When he becomes King, she will be Queen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted January 1, 2013 When he becomes King, she will be Queen. In other words, something easily avoided. regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 1, 2013 When he becomes King, she will be Queen. In other words, something easily avoided. regards, Hein Even easier if you believe the American tabloid magazines. The dying Queen Elizabeth is so overjoyed at Kate's pregnancy that she has already signed over the throne to Prince William, much to the frustration of the Royal baddies, Charles and Camilla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted January 1, 2013 When he becomes King, she will be Queen. In other words, something easily avoided. regards, Hein Even easier if you believe the American tabloid magazines. The dying Queen Elizabeth is so overjoyed at Kate's pregnancy that she has already signed over the throne to Prince William, much to the frustration of the Royal baddies, Charles and Camilla. That would probably be for the best, I can just see Charles being another Gordon Brown... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 1, 2013 Charles will be the last great king. After him our monarchy will sink to the bog-standard, cheap, European style monarchy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted January 1, 2013 Charles will be the last great king. After him our monarchy will sink to the bog-standard, cheap, European style monarchy. Hang on. I live in a bog-standard, European style monarchy, but it's not exactly cheap to the annual tune of some €110 million. That's what's directly spent through the state budget, it does not include lost revenue due to the fact that the Queen and the Prince of Orange pay no tax on income and capital. regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 1, 2013 Charles will be the last great king. After him our monarchy will sink to the bog-standard, cheap, European style monarchy. Hang on. I live in a bog-standard, European style monarchy, but it's not exactly cheap to the annual tune of some €110 million. That's what's directly spent through the state budget, it does not include lost revenue due to the fact that the Queen and the Prince of Orange pay no tax on income and capital. regards, Hein You would think they would do it properly for that price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted January 1, 2013 Charles will be the last great king. After him our monarchy will sink to the bog-standard, cheap, European style monarchy. Hang on. I live in a bog-standard, European style monarchy, but it's not exactly cheap to the annual tune of some €110 million. That's what's directly spent through the state budget, it does not include lost revenue due to the fact that the Queen and the Prince of Orange pay no tax on income and capital. You would think they would do it properly for that price. That's one of the reasons (by no means the most important one) why I rather have a republic. regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,581 Posted January 10, 2013 Charles will be the last great king. After him our monarchy will sink to the bog-standard, cheap, European style monarchy. Hang on. I live in a bog-standard, European style monarchy, but it's not exactly cheap to the annual tune of some €110 million. That's what's directly spent through the state budget, it does not include lost revenue due to the fact that the Queen and the Prince of Orange pay no tax on income and capital. You would think they would do it properly for that price. That's one of the reasons (by no means the most important one) why I rather have a republic. regards, Hein The things that I would say to British Republicans are this - imagine President Blair or heaven forbid President Johnson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Flag 84 Posted January 10, 2013 But that wouldn't happen, because that's not what's being proposed. There has never been a President Kohl or President Schroeder of Germany Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,581 Posted January 11, 2013 But that wouldn't happen, because that's not what's being proposed. There has never been a President Kohl or President Schroeder of Germany I have yet to see a realistic proposal for how a British Republic would function and how the head of states position would relate to that of the Prime Minister. It is expected that it would be an elected position and therefore the major political parties would each have to find their candidate. So even if the post had no power it would be filled by someone who is strongly affiliated with a political party and probably very media friendly. Both of those suggestions would fit the bil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Flag 84 Posted January 11, 2013 But that wouldn't happen, because that's not what's being proposed. There has never been a President Kohl or President Schroeder of Germany I have yet to see a realistic proposal for how a British Republic would function and how the head of states position would relate to that of the Prime Minister. Why the need for a proposal when the answer is "just do what Germany does"? http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/In%20depth/The%20Case%20for%20a%20Republic/Policy/index.php 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,581 Posted January 14, 2013 But that wouldn't happen, because that's not what's being proposed. There has never been a President Kohl or President Schroeder of Germany I have yet to see a realistic proposal for how a British Republic would function and how the head of states position would relate to that of the Prime Minister. Why the need for a proposal when the answer is "just do what Germany does"? http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/In%20depth/The%20Case%20for%20a%20Republic/Policy/index.php Considering the overwhelming apathy that greeted the Police Commissioner elections do you think that the UK would turn out to vote for a figure head. I just don't see the republicans gaining mainstream political support in the UK. Do we want to be 'just like the Germans'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted January 14, 2013 Why the need for a proposal when the answer is "just do what Germany does"? http://www.republic....olicy/index.php Do we want to be 'just like the Germans'? That's a question I can't answer for you, but as far as the Netherlands are concerned I think the German got exactly the republic I'd like to have here when we sack the Oranges. Exactly, apart from the way the prez is elected, which should be by popular vote. regards, Hein 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted January 17, 2013 Unelected heads of state have no place in a democracy in my view. I don't personally mind if only a tiny percentage of the population turn out to vote, at least we had the option. I shall now duck as any monarchists/royalists throw whatever comes to hand in my direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,581 Posted January 18, 2013 Unelected heads of state have no place in a democracy in my view. I don't personally mind if only a tiny percentage of the population turn out to vote, at least we had the option. I shall now duck as any monarchists/royalists throw whatever comes to hand in my direction. Dear En Passant No need to duck, I respect your opinion but where is the main stream political thinking in the UK that is pushing for even including a republican debate in a manifesto. There is no appetite for it. I would also suggest that they are waiting till the Queen dies before having the debate out of respect. That is flawed thinking in my mind because that will be the worst time to have the debate. I think we should accept the monarchy, reform its worst excesses (reduce the civil list) and enjoy the status they bring us in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted January 18, 2013 I think we should accept the monarchy, reform its worst excesses (reduce the civil list) and enjoy the status they bring us in the world. That's all been done. There used to be loads of people on the CL, but it was drastically pruned a few years back and now it's just the Queen who gets paid to cover her expenses (she gives the DoE an allowance out of it). Prince Charles and his family were never on the CL, he has the income of the Duchy of Cornwall instead. It's a myth that we pay for it all anyway. Since George III, the monarch has signed over the revenue of the Crown Estates to the state, and that far exceeds the expenses of the monarchy. It's a bargain. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dan Crook Posted January 21, 2013 I would love to look at prince phillips dead balls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sean Hayes Posted January 21, 2013 I would love to look at prince phillips dead balls I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dan Crook Posted January 21, 2013 I would love to look at prince phillips dead balls I agree. What do you think they taste like? And Sean you have an ill-fitted hat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Harley MCEvoy Posted January 21, 2013 I would love to look at prince phillips dead balls I agree. What do you think they taste like? And Sean you have an ill-fitted hat. If a tree falls in the middle of the forest and there's no one around to hear it, do you fuck kids? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falkekopf 50 Posted January 21, 2013 I would love to look at prince phillips dead balls I agree. What do you think they taste like? And Sean you have an ill-fitted hat. If a tree falls in the middle of the forest and there's no one around to hear it, do you fuck kids? Ha ha...you can tell the schools are shut and they're all sitting at home with nothing to do! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
