Bibliogryphon 9,586 Posted November 15, 2012 In my opinion, DL names should be people who 1) Have a strong chance of dying this year and 2) Are famous enough to be known to the majority of the forum. I think some picks (Lom, Martin) were chosen just because they'd get an obit and they were very old, and as such when they died no obit was written because no one really knew who they were. I do agree with Cecil/Winner/James though. I agree that the people on the list should be sufficiently famous that most people would know who they are but I disagree that Herbert Lom and Tony Martin do not meet that criteria. A lot of the "fun" in the Deathlist is rembering those who have faded from public life but have left a body of work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,586 Posted November 15, 2012 I am still promoting Rodney Bewes since the last time I saw him on telly he looked like someone had just dug him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted November 15, 2012 Clive James Sir Henry Cecil Bob Champion Michael Winner Geoffrey Palmer Ronnie Corbett Doris Day Colin Baker Joan Fontaine Helmut Schmidt Tony Benn Sandy Gall David Jason Denis Norden Walter Mondale Richard Adams Lord Carrington Arthur Morris Gough Whitlam Arnold Palmer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted November 15, 2012 Joan Fontaine Any particular reason for swapping Olivia de Havilland out and replacing her with Joan Fontaine? Who says we can't have both? They have about the same chance of dying and are both equally famous. I think they have a pact to carry on living to spite the other one. When one goes, it will be lights out for the other one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,535 Posted November 15, 2012 In my opinion, DL names should be people who 1) Have a strong chance of dying this year and 2) Are famous enough to be known to the majority of the forum. I think some picks (Lom, Martin) were chosen just because they'd get an obit and they were very old, and as such when they died no obit was written because no one really knew who they were. I do agree with Cecil/Winner/James though. I agree that the people on the list should be sufficiently famous that most people would know who they are but I disagree that Herbert Lom and Tony Martin do not meet that criteria. A lot of the "fun" in the Deathlist is rembering those who have faded from public life but have left a body of work. DL picks should all be ones who get the "tributes have been paid today..." mention on the evening news, imho. Like I said before, DL is Corinthian spirit, DDP is the professional leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest1 Posted November 15, 2012 Well, thumbing through my ledger of possible picks, here's a selection of suitably deathlistesque candidates: Geoffrey Howe Cliff Michelmore Jimmy Hill Ian Holm Stephen Lewis (we've missed out on a couple of comedy/character actors) Richard Adams (Watership Down) Sid Caesar Leslie Phillips Having seen at least at least two of these at close quarters in the past 12 months I would advise that Howe and Philips though both frail are likely to make it to 2014 though you never can tell. Jimmy Hill is reportedly in a care home now so I think he's a good pick sadly. Is Ian Holm even ill as he's not that old? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest1 Posted November 15, 2012 In my opinion, DL names should be people who 1) Have a strong chance of dying this year and 2) Are famous enough to be known to the majority of the forum. I think some picks (Lom, Martin) were chosen just because they'd get an obit and they were very old, and as such when they died no obit was written because no one really knew who they were. I do agree with Cecil/Winner/James though. I agree that the people on the list should be sufficiently famous that most people would know who they are but I disagree that Herbert Lom and Tony Martin do not meet that criteria. A lot of the "fun" in the Deathlist is rembering those who have faded from public life but have left a body of work. Like Chapman Pincher for example who has been on quite a few DLs but no-one has any idea who he is. I'd keep him on as he is in danger of making DL notoriety like a certain Mr Dunn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,535 Posted November 15, 2012 In my opinion, DL names should be people who 1) Have a strong chance of dying this year and 2) Are famous enough to be known to the majority of the forum. I think some picks (Lom, Martin) were chosen just because they'd get an obit and they were very old, and as such when they died no obit was written because no one really knew who they were. I do agree with Cecil/Winner/James though. I agree that the people on the list should be sufficiently famous that most people would know who they are but I disagree that Herbert Lom and Tony Martin do not meet that criteria. A lot of the "fun" in the Deathlist is rembering those who have faded from public life but have left a body of work. Like Chapman Pincher for example who has been on quite a few DLs but no-one has any idea who he is. I'd keep him on as he is in danger of making DL notoriety like a certain Mr Dunn. Chapman Pincher is famous, he's wheeled out at least twice a year to pop up in the Mail or the Telegraph to tell everyone which British politicians of the 60s were actually Soviet spies, and he was an even bigger deal back in the 80s from what I understand. I know this is always the thing with "how do you accurately judge fame?" (I remember when Brittany Murphy died being stunned that people on here wouldn't know who she was), but Pincher passes the diptest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted November 15, 2012 Pincher will be a delightful DL hit one day. The idea of Herbert Lom not being famous enough for folk makes me sad too: he's a big part of the Pink Panthers films! Anyhow, the "name" game is a bit daft: over the course of several years looking at this forum, I've heard several names mentioned in hushed tones I'd never heard of before. Usually followed by a trip to Google to see who they were. Some of them I've even got quite into, and wouldn't have heard of them if not for the forum. (Anne Feeney comes to mind.) Not having heard of a DL or DDP pick should be seen as an opportunity rather than a challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted November 15, 2012 Well, thumbing through my ledger of possible picks, here's a selection of suitably deathlistesque candidates: Geoffrey Howe Cliff Michelmore Jimmy Hill Ian Holm Stephen Lewis (we've missed out on a couple of comedy/character actors) Richard Adams (Watership Down) Sid Caesar Leslie Phillips Having seen at least at least two of these at close quarters in the past 12 months I would advise that Howe and Philips though both frail are likely to make it to 2014 though you never can tell. Jimmy Hill is reportedly in a care home now so I think he's a good pick sadly. Is Ian Holm even ill as he's not that old? Parkinson's apparently... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dean1991 116 Posted November 15, 2012 My picks would be. Bernie Nolan - Suffering from cancer Lindsey Lohan - Turns 27, Junkie, Avoided the ultimate consequence too many times. Lana Del Ray - Also turns 27, Child Alchy Michael Winner - Given 6 months to live Prince Philip - In & out of hospital all through 2012, 2013 cant be much better Superstar Billy Graham - Apparently on deaths door already Alexander Imich - Turns 110 next year Pete Doherty - Like Lindsay he has been running from the inevitable for too long now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshman 31 Posted November 15, 2012 Keep 'em coming. This thread will get read (and then ignored the saying goes) - some good ideas so far but "IM Pei" - I don't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,535 Posted November 15, 2012 Keep 'em coming. This thread will get read (and then ignored the saying goes) - some good ideas so far but "IM Pei" - I don't think so. He's the people's Niemeyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshman 31 Posted November 15, 2012 Keep 'em coming. This thread will get read (and then ignored the saying goes) - some good ideas so far but "IM Pei" - I don't think so. He's the people's Niemeyer. except Niemeyer made the list...:-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest US Funeral Director Posted November 15, 2012 1. Billy Graham- longtime Deathlister, old age and multiple health problems 2. Nancy Reagan- 91 years old, growing ever more frail 3. George HW Bush- Ex U.S. President is now wheelchair-bound and rapidly declining from Parkinson's Disease 4. Margaret Thatcher- EX British PM, well into the stages of dementia 5. Prince Phillip- in his 90s, has heart issues 6. James Garner-actor in poor health since a stroke in 2008, also in his 80s 7. Mary Tyler Moore- diabetes and heart issues, in her 70s. 8. Zsa Zsa Gabor- just for the heck of it 9. David Rockefeller- 98 years old 10. John Glenn- astronaut, first man to orbit the earth, 91 years old Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angryGreatness 96 Posted November 16, 2012 Keep 'em coming. This thread will get read (and then ignored the saying goes) - some good ideas so far but "IM Pei" - I don't think so. I can name two buildings Pei built, can only name 1 for Niemeyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted November 16, 2012 I can name two buildings Pei built, can only name 1 for Niemeyer. I can only say I'm familiar with one of each - Pei's glass pyramid at the Louvre, which I'm sure everyone has seen; and Niemeyer's atrocity in Le Havre: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angryGreatness 96 Posted November 16, 2012 I can name two buildings Pei built, can only name 1 for Niemeyer. I can only say I'm familiar with one of each - Pei's glass pyramid at the Louvre, which I'm sure everyone has seen; and Niemeyer's atrocity in Le Havre: Pei designed the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, and Niemeyer designed the United Nations HQ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estuarian Float 97 Posted November 16, 2012 Just some random thoughts... Bonnie Franklin - A must. Muhammad Ali - Seems to be close. A can't-miss pick for the DL. Robin Roberts - Health problems keep coming. Serious ones. Ann B. Davis - Dont know if she's ever appeared on the DL. Turns 87. Michele Ferrero - Chocolate tycoon whose son recently died. Turns 88. Guy Innes-Ker - Do we have an update on him? Who was it here thats his neighbor? Superstar Billy Graham - Should go up. His 2 years to live prognosis is over. He's in a wheelchair. He hasnt been giving many updates anymore. Bill Clinton - Would be an impressive hit, but risky. Not much info available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted November 16, 2012 prince Philip jiang zemin clive james fats domino terry pratchett queen Elizabeth the 2nd freddie starr jim bowen saif al gaddafi (trial is feb 2013 expect him to be executed late in 2013 ) mickey rooney ronnie biggs superstar billy graham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted November 16, 2012 How about "someone who has been suggested that should never be listed?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted November 16, 2012 Keep 'em coming. This thread will get read (and then ignored the saying goes) - some good ideas so far but "IM Pei" - I don't think so. I can name two buildings Pei built, can only name 1 for Niemeyer. Niemeyer built an entire city - Brasilia... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted November 16, 2012 It'd be good to have a Bin Laden stylee military/terrorist bruiser in there as summat of a wild card. The long-term survival prospectsof Bosco Ntaganda or Joseph Kony make them suitable candidates, IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,142 Posted November 16, 2012 Niemeyer built an entire city - Brasilia... Ah, I did know that, but felt it didn't count as I couldn't name or recognise any individual building. That's down to my own ignorance, admittedly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,535 Posted November 16, 2012 tbh, Family Fortunes-style, after Wren, Mackintosh and Le Corbusier I'd have to pause and think to "name a famous architect". Would probably go with those guys who did "check the body groove, check-check the body groove". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites