Ulitzer95 12,654 Posted November 28, 2021 4 hours ago, The Old Crem said: Did you just edit wiki? As that has just been added to his page. Why does that matter? Loads of us on here are Wiki editors. It’s not exactly a secret or a big reveal. No need to try and “out” people on here by their Wiki users. It’s not appropriate. Mind your own business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted November 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: Why does that matter? Loads of us on here are Wiki editors. It’s not exactly a secret or a big reveal. No need to try and “out” people on here by their Wiki users. It’s not appropriate. Mind your own business. You are getting ruder and ruder every day. Is everything ok? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,654 Posted November 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Octopus of Odstock said: Just an aside to confirm Jimmy Binning died in the 1990's - https://blantyreproject.com/2019/06/ian-jimmy-binning-footballer/ so Ian McMillan is the only surviving member of the squad, albeit he didn't travel. *snip* This is a weird case. Every site online refers to him as "Ian "Jimmy" Binning" but his birth certificate says James Binning. Born 1922 in Blantyre. The confusion over his birth year arises from the fact that there was a John Binning born in 1927 in Blantyre. Whoever that man was he died in Glasgow around 2004. Scotland's People confirms the footballer died in Airdrie in 1991, aged 68. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,062 Posted December 3, 2021 Horst Eckel being widely reported dead: https://www-sport1-de.translate.goog/news/fussball/2021/12/horst-eckel-ist-tot-der-letzte-weltmeister-von-1954-verstirbt-im-alter-von-89-jahren?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Brittan 294 Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Horst Eckel being widely reported dead: https://www-sport1-de.translate.goog/news/fussball/2021/12/horst-eckel-ist-tot-der-letzte-weltmeister-von-1954-verstirbt-im-alter-von-89-jahren?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc That's 1954s final cleared up then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted December 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Horst Eckel being widely reported dead: https://www-sport1-de.translate.goog/news/fussball/2021/12/horst-eckel-ist-tot-der-letzte-weltmeister-von-1954-verstirbt-im-alter-von-89-jahren?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc Reuters I think that is a QO or can be turned into one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,062 Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: Reuters I think that is a QO or can be turned into one. Oh yeah, already up on the Daily Mail site. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P94 41 Posted December 3, 2021 So 1954 FIFA World Cup winning team survivors are gone and now is updated. Last surviv[or(s)/ing] (and still living) footballers of winning teams between 1954 1958 and 1986: 1954 - Horst Eckel 1958 - Dino Sani, Mario Zagallo, Pele, Moacir, Jose "Mazzola" Altafini, Pepe (6 of 22) 1962 - Pele, Pepe, Mengalvio, Jair da Costa, Amarildo, Maro Zagallo (6 of 22) 1966 - George Cohen, Bobby Charlton, Geoff Hurst, Terry Paine, Ian Callaghan, George Eastham (6 of 22) 1970 - Brito, Piazza, Clodoaldo, Jairzinho, Gerson, Tostao, Pele, Rivellino, Ado, Roberto, Baldocchi, Caju, Edu, Dario, Ze Maria, Leao (16 of 22) 1974 - only two footballers (Gerd Mueller & Heinz Flohe) are dead 1978 - three footballers (Ruben Galvan, Rene Houseman & Leopoldo Luque) are dead 1982 - only two footballers (Gaetano Scirea & Paolo Rossi) are dead 1986 - three footballers (Jose Luis Brown, Jose Luis Cuciuffo, Diego Maradona) are dead 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,203 Posted December 3, 2021 There are now less than 20 remaining players from the 1954 World Cup. A bit of research has found Marcel Mauron, thought to be the last Swiss survivor, died in 1998. (I've updated Wikipedia). Looks like Park Jae-Seung died in 2015, so he was the last Korean survivor. Alfredo Torres of Mexico IS still going, but only just - at 90 years of age, he is 'delicate'. https://thenewstrace.com/pistache-torres-legend-of-atlas-left-the-hospital-after-being-reported-as-delicate/193766/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Octopus of Odstock 2,203 Posted December 3, 2021 But in good news - there's a recent interview with Manuel Munoz from the 1950 World Cup - where he confirms team-mate Andre Prieto is also still alive. Munoz is a fair shout of the 4 remaining to be the last standing. https://www.latercera.com/el-deportivo/noticia/manuel-colo-colo-munoz-hubiera-sido-una-verguenza-llevar-mi-apodo-a-la-b/HITUEIBYSFA2FIQRS4CBRVRIQ4/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted December 4, 2021 How many survivors are there from the 1950, 1954 and 1958 World Cups? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,979 Posted December 4, 2021 21 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Oh yeah, already up on the Daily Mail site. Do you have a link? I can't see it. The Reuters link does not work with "uk" in front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted December 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Do you have a link? I can't see it. The Reuters link does not work with "uk" in front. Mail Its an AP wires Obit. But the Mail have also posted the Reuters copy on their own website as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,979 Posted December 4, 2021 Thanks, I've occasionally had problems seeing the Daily Mail wire obits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted December 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Thanks, I've occasionally had problems seeing the Daily Mail wire obits. It seems that people have to search for them on the Daily Mail website. It is not showing up via Google. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,203 Posted December 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Deathrace said: How many survivors are there from the 1950, 1954 and 1958 World Cups? 4 1950 confirmed. Possible there's another 2 around but I doubt it. 17 1954 - at least 11 are definitely alive. I have doubts about 2 Turks (Bolatli and Dincer) and one Uruguayan (Souto) 55 1958 - most of whom are definitely still alive. Only a handful of hmmms 106 1962 but some of those are questionable but I'm sure will be filtered out as the years progress. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoismakoto 328 Posted December 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: 4 1950 confirmed. Possible there's another 2 around but I doubt it. 17 1954 - at least 11 are definitely alive. I have doubts about 2 Turks (Bolatli and Dincer) and one Uruguayan (Souto) 55 1958 - most of whom are definitely still alive. Only a handful of hmmms 106 1962 but some of those are questionable but I'm sure will be filtered out as the years progress. If I can guess who are these players: I'll highlight those whom I'm not sure 1950 Mexico Antonio Carbajal Chile Manuel Muñoz Andrés Prieto Paraguay Darío Jara Saguier 1954 Mexico Antonio Carbajal Ranulfo Cortes Sergio Bravo Alfredo Torres France François Remetter Turkey Rıdvan Bolatlı Burhan Sargun Şükrü Ersoy Mehmet Dinçer Naci Erdem Akgün Kaçmaz Coşkun Taş Uruguay Jose Santamaria Roberto Leopardi Rafael Souto Omar Méndez Scotland Ian McMillan Italy Carlo Galli Gino Pivatelli 1958 Argentina Jose Sanfilippo Alfredo Rojas David Acevedo Norberto Boggio Osvaldo Héctor Cruz Germany Hermann Nuber Karl-Heinz Schnellinger Uwe Seeler Northern Ireland Billy Bingham Peter McParland Bobby Trainor Czechoslovakia Gustáv Mráz Jiří Čadek Milan Dvořák Václav Hovorka Titus Buberník Adolf Scherer France François Remetter Just Fontaine Dominique Colonna Robert Mouynet Bernard Chiarelli Maryan Wisniewski Yugoslavia Radivoje Ognjanović Paraguay José Aveiro Luis Gini Salvador Villalba Sweden Kurt Hamrin Reino Börjesson Owe Ohlsson Wales Terry Medwin Cliff Jones Trevor Edwards George Baker Hungary Máté Fenyvesi Zoltán Friedmanszky Mihály Vasas Mexico Antonio Carbajal José Villegas Crescencio Gutiérrez Enrique Sesma Jesús del Muro Brazil Pele Mário Zagallo Dino Sani Moacir Claudino Pinto José Altafini Pepe Soviet Union Nikita Simonyan England Colin McDonald Tommy Banks Bryan Douglas Maurice Norman Bobby Charlton Austria Ernst Kozlicek Hans Buzek 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,203 Posted December 4, 2021 Not quite: Here's the complete list: (Walter Beerli is one of those from 1950 who I can't prove is dead but I doubt is alive) 1950 World Cup – 4 survivors MexicoPlayerDoB/Age 1Antonio Carbajal(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 21) ChilePlayerDoB/ Age 9Manuel Muñoz(1928-04-28)28 April 1928 (aged 22) 12Andrés Prieto(1928-12-19)19 December 1928 (aged 21) ParaguayPlayerDoB/Age 9Darío Saguier(1926-09-11)11 September 1926 (aged 23) Definitely all dead: Brazil, Uruguay, Spain, Sweden, England, USA, Italy Believed all dead (but no information to confirm); Bolivia, Switzerland, Yugoslavia 1954 survivors –17 Definitely all dead: Yugoslavia, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Brazil, England, Austria, West Germany, Switzerland, South Korea France No......Pos......Player...........................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 1........1GK.....François Remetter.......(1928-08-08)8 August 1928 (aged 25)..........4..............FC Metz Mexico No......Pos......Player.....................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 1........1GK.....Antonio Carbajal....(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 25)..............11...........FC León 7........4FW....Alfredo Torres.........(1931-05-31)31 May 1931 (aged 23)............3.............Atlas Turkey No......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 2.......2DF......Rıdvan Bolatlı........(1928-12-02)2 December 1928 (aged 25).....2............MKE Ankaragücü SK 10.....4FW.....Burhan Sargun.....(1929-02-11)11 February 1929 (aged 25).....5............Fenerbahçe SK 12.....1GK.....Şükrü Ersoy..........(1934-01-14)14 January 1934 (aged 20).......3............Vefa SK 15.....3MF.....Mehmet Dinçer......(1933-02-20)20 February 1933 (aged 21).....0...........Fenerbahçe SK 17.....2DF.....Naci Erdem............(1931-01-28)28 January 1931 (aged 23).......0...........Fenerbahçe SK 18.....2DF.....Kaçmaz Akgün.......(1935-02-19)19 February 1935 (aged 19).....1..........MKE Ankaragücü SK 22.....4FW....Coşkun Taş............(1935-04-23)23 April 1935 (aged 19)............2..........MKE Ankaragücü SK Uruguay No......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 2........2DF.....José Santamaría...(1929-07-31)31 July 1929 (aged 24)............3.............Nacional 6........3MF....Roberto Leopardi...(1933-07-19)19 July 1933 (aged 20)............3.............Nacional 18......4FW...Rafael Souto..........(1930-10-24)24 October 1930 (aged 23).......4...........Nacional 20......4FW...Omar Méndez.........(1934-08-07)7 August 1934 (aged 19)..........3...........Nacional Scotland No......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 22.....4FW....Ian McMillan*...............(1931-03-18)18 March 1931 (aged 23)........3............Airdrieonians Only 13 members of the squad actually travelled. McMillan was not required to travel and stayed at home. Italy No......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 9........4FW....Carlo Galli.................(1931-03-06)6 March 1931 (aged 23)...........2.............Roma 18......3MF....Gino Pivatelli.............(1933-03-27)27 March 1933 (aged 21)..........0............Bologna 1958 –53 survivors - Definitely all dead: Scotland West Germany No......Pos.......Player..............................DoB/Age 12......4FW......Uwe Seeler.....................(1936-11-05)5 November 1936 (aged 21) 17......2DF.......Karl-Heinz Schnellinger...(1939-03-31)31 March 1939 (aged 19) 20......2DF.......Hermann Nuber*.............(1935-10-10)10 October 1935 (aged 22) Did not travel to Sweden. Northern Ireland No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 7.........4FW.....Billy Bingham................(1931-08-05)5 August 1931 (aged 26) 11.......4FW.....Peter McParland...........(1934-04-25)25 April 1934 (aged 24) 22.......4FW.....Bobby Trainor*..............Unknown Czechoslovakia No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 2.........2DF.......Gustav Mráz.................(1934-09-11)11 September 1934 (aged 23) 3.........3MF......Jiří Čadek......................(1935-12-07)7 December 1935 (aged 22) 8.........4FW.....Milan Dvořák.................(1934-11-19)19 November 1934 (aged 23) 17.......2DF.....Titus Buberník................(1933-10-12)12 October 1933 (aged 24) 18.......3MF.....Adolf Scherer..................(1938-05-05)5 May 1938 (aged 20) Argentina No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 10......4FW......Alfredo Rojas................(1937-02-20)20 February 1937 (aged 21) 15......2DF.......David Acevedo..............(1937-02-20)20 February 1937 (aged 21) 18......4FW......Norberto Boggio............(1931-08-11)11 August 1931 (aged 26) 21......4FW......José Sanfilippo..............(1935-05-04)4 May 1935 (aged 23) 22......4FW......Osvaldo Cruz.................(1931-05-29)29 May 1931 (aged 27) France No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 2........1GK.......Dominique Colonna......(1928-09-04)4 September 1928 (aged 29) 3........1GK.......François Remetter........(1928-08-08)8 August 1928 (aged 29) 7........2DF.......Robert Mouynet.............(1930-03-25)25 March 1930 (aged 28) 8........3MF.......Bernard Chiarelli............(1934-02-24)24 February 1934 (aged 24) 17......4FW.....Just Fontaine...................(1933-07-18)18 July 1933 (aged 24) 22......4FW.....Maryan Wisnieski.............(1937-02-01)1 February 1937 (aged 21) Yugoslavia No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 19......4FW.....Radivoje Ognjanović.......(1933-07-01)1 July 1933 (aged 24) Paraguay No.......Pos.......Player..........................................DoB/Age 13.......2DF.......Luis Gini......................................(1935-10-31)31 October 1935 (aged 22) 120.......4FW......José Raúl Aveiro..........................(1936-07-18)18 July 1936 (aged 21) Sweden No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 7.........4FW.....Kurt Hamrin...................(1934-11-19)19 November 1934 (aged 23) 15.......3MF.....Reino Börjesson............(1929-02-04)4 February 1929 (aged 29) 22.......4FW....Ove Olsson....................(1938-08-19)19 August 1938 (aged 19) Wales No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 7.........4FW......Terry Medwin...............(1932-09-25)25 September 1932 (aged 25) 11.......4FW......Cliff Jones....................(1935-02-07)7 February 1935 (aged 23) 14.......2DF.......Trevor Edwards...........(1937-01-24)24 January 1937 (aged 21) 22.......3MF.......George Baker..............(1934-04-06)6 April 1934 (aged 24) Hungary No.......Pos.......Player...........................DoB/Age 17.......4FW.....Mihály Vasas.................1933 19.......4FW.....Zoltán Friedmanszky......Unknown 21.......4FW.....Máté Fenyvesi...............(1933-09-20)20 September 1933 (aged 24) Mexico No.......Pos.......Player..................................DoB/Age 1.........1GK.....Antonio Carbajal (captain)...(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 29) 2.........2DF.....Jesús del Muro.....................(1937-11-30)30 November 1937 (aged 20) #4.........2DF.....José Villegas........................(1934-06-20)20 June 1934 (aged 23) 10.......4FW....Crescencio Gutiérrez............(1933-10-26)26 October 1933 (aged 24) Brazil No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 5.........3MF.....Dino Sani...................................(1932-05-23)23 May 1932 (aged 26) 7.........4FW....Mário Zagallo.............................(1931-08-09)9 August 1931 (aged 26) 10.......4FW....Pelé...........................................(1940-10-23)23 October 1940 (aged 17) 13.......3MF.....Moacir.........................................(1936-05-18)18 May 1936 (aged 22) 18.......4FW....Mazzola.......................................(1938-07-24)24 July 1938 (aged 19) 22.......4FW....Pepe............................................(1935-02-25)25 February 1935 (aged 23) Soviet Union No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 9.........4FW......Nikita Simonyan (captain)........(1926-10-12)12 October 1926 (aged 31) England No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 1.........1GK......Colin McDonald.......................(1930-10-15)15 October 1930 (aged 27) 3.........2DF.......Tommy Banks..........................(1929-11-10)10 November 1929 (aged 28) 7.........4FW......Bryan Douglas........................(1934-05-27)27 May 1934 (aged 24) 16.......2DF......Maurice Norman.......................(1934-05-08)8 May 1934 (aged 24) 20.......3MF......Bobby Charlton........................(1937-10-11)11 October 1937 (aged 20) Austria No.......Pos.......Player......................................DoB/Age 9.........4FW.....Hans Buzek..............................(1938-05-22)22 May 1938 (aged 20) 17.......3MF......Ernst Kozlicek..........................(1931-01-27)27 January 1931 (aged 27) 1962 – 106 survivors Soviet Union 9 MF Nikolai Manoshin 6 March 1938 (aged 24) 11 MF Yozhef Sabo 1 March 1940 (aged 22) Yugoslavia 1 GK Milutin Šoškić 31 December 1937 (aged 24) 11 FW Josip Skoblar 12 March 1941 (aged 21) 15 MF Željko Matuš 9 August 1935 (aged 26) 19 GK Mirko Stojanović 11 June 1939 (aged 22) 21 FW Nikola Stipić 18 December 1937 (aged 24) Uruguay 4 DF Omar Méndez 11 May 1938 (aged 24) 7 FW Domingo Pérez 7 June 1936 (aged 25) 8 MF Julio César Cortés 29 March 1941 (aged 21) 12 GK Luis Maidana 24 February 1934 (aged 28) 14 DF Rubén Soria 23 January 1935 (aged 27) 16 DF Rubén González 17 July 1939 (aged 22) 18 MF Ronald Langón 6 August 1939 (aged 22) 22 FW Guillermo Escalada 24 April 1936 (aged 26) Colombia 2 GK Achito Vivas 1 March 1934 (aged 28) 10 MF Rolando Serrano 13 November 1938 (aged 23) 12 MF Hernando Tovar 7 June 1938 (aged 23) 18 FW Eusebio Escobar 2 July 1936 (aged 25) 22 FW Jairo Arias 2 November 1938 (aged 23) West Germany 3 DF Karl-Heinz Schnellinger 31 March 1939 (aged 23) 4 DF Willi Schulz 4 October 1938 (aged 23) 5 DF Leo Wilden 3 July 1936 (aged 25) 7 MF Willi Koslowski 17 February 1937 (aged 25) 9 FW Uwe Seeler 5 November 1936 (aged 25) 15 MF Willi Giesemann 2 September 1937 (aged 24) 18 MF Günther Herrmann 1 September 1939 (aged 22) 22 GK Wolfgang Fahrian 31 May 1941 (aged 20) Chile 2 DF Luis Eyzaguirre 22 June 1939 (aged 22) 4 DF Sergio Navarro 20 November 1936 (aged 25) 8 MF Jorge Toro 10 January 1939 (aged 23) 11 FW Leonel Sánchez 25 April 1936 (aged 26) 12 GK Adán Godoy 26 November 1936 (aged 25) 16 DF Humberto Cruz 6 December 1934 (aged 27) 19 FW Braulio Musso 24 May 1937 (aged 25) 22 GK Manuel Astorga 16 March 1943 (aged 19) Italy 1 GK Lorenzo Buffon (captain) 19 December 1929 (aged 32) 2 DF Giacomo Losi 9 November 1935 (aged 26) 6 MF Giovanni Trapattoni 17 March 1939 (aged 23) 8 FW Humberto Maschio 20 February 1933 (aged 29) 9 FW José Altafini 24 July 1938 (aged 23) 11 FW Giampaolo Menichelli 29 June 1938 (aged 23) 13 GK Enrico Albertosi 2 November 1939 (aged 22) 14 FW Gianni Rivera 18 August 1943 (aged 18) 15 FW Angelo Sormani 3 July 1939 (aged 22) 16 DF Enzo Robotti 13 June 1935 (aged 26) Switzerland 9 FW Roberto Frigerio 16 May 1938 (aged 24) 10 DF Fritz Kehl 12 July 1937 (aged 24) 12 FW Marcel Vonlanthen 8 September 1933 (aged 28) 19 FW Gilbert Rey 30 October 1930 (aged 31) Brazil 10 FW Pelé 23 October 1940 (aged 21) 11 FW Pepe 25 February 1935 (aged 27) 17 MF Mengálvio 17 December 1939 (aged 22) 18 FW Jair da Costa 9 July 1940 (aged 21) 20 FW Amarildo 29 June 1939 (aged 22) 21 FW Zagallo 9 August 1931 (aged 30) Czechoslovakia 2 DF Jan Lála 10 September 1936 (aged 25) 7 MF Jozef Štibrányi 11 April 1940 (aged 22) 8 FW Adolf Scherer 5 May 1938 (aged 24) 11 FW Josef Jelínek 9 January 1941 (aged 21) 14 FW Václav Mašek 21 March 1941 (aged 21) 16 DF Titus Buberník 12 October 1933 (aged 28) Mexico 1 GK Antonio Carbajal (captain) 7 June 1929 (aged 32) 2 DF Jesús del Muro 30 November 1937 (aged 24) 4 DF José Villegas 20 June 1934 (aged 27) 11 FW Isidoro Díaz 14 March 1940 (aged 22) 14 MF Pedro Romero 12 April 1937 (aged 25) 15 DF Ignacio Jáuregui 31 July 1938 (aged 23) 16 MF Salvador Farfán 22 June 1932 (aged 29) 18 FW Alfredo Hernández 18 June 1935 (aged 26) 21 FW Alberto Baeza 6 December 1938 (aged 23) Spain 1 GK José Araquistáin 4 March 1937 (aged 25) 2 GK Salvador Sadurní 3 April 1941 (aged 21) 3 GK Carmelo 6 December 1930 (aged 31) 4 FW Enrique Collar 2 November 1934 (aged 27) FW Francisco Gento 21 October 1933 (aged 28) 16 DF Severino Reija 25 November 1938 (aged 23) 17 DF Rodri 8 March 1934 (aged 28) 0 18 MF Adelardo 26 September 1939 (aged 22) 19 DF José Santamaría 31 July 1929 (aged 32) 21 FW Luis Suárez 2 May 1935 (aged 27) Hungary 3 DF Kálmán Mészöly 16 July 1941 (aged 20) 11 FW Máté Fenyvesi 20 September 1933 (aged 28) 17 FW Gyula Rákosi 9 October 1938 (aged 23)) 20 FW László Bödör 17 August 1933 (aged 28) 21 GK Antal Szentmihályi 3 June 1937 (aged 24) England 1 FW Bobby Charlton 11 October 1937 (aged 24) 15 DF Maurice Norman 8 May 1934 (aged 28) 17 MF Bryan Douglas 27 May 1934 (aged 28) 19 FW Alan Peacock 29 October 1937 (aged 24). 20 MF George Eastham 23 September 1936 (aged 25) Argentina 5 MF Federico Sacchi 9 August 1936 (aged 25) 6 DF Raúl Páez 26 May 1937 (aged 25) 9 FW Marcelo Pagani 19 August 1941 (aged 20) 10 FW José Sanfilippo 4 May 1935 (aged 27) 14 DF Alberto Mariotti 23 August 1935 (aged 26) 16 MF Antonio Rattín 16 May 1937 (aged 25) 20 FW Juan Carlos Oleniak 4 March 1942 (aged 20) 21 MF Ramón Abeledo 29 April 1937 (aged 25) 22 FW Alberto González 21 August 1941 (aged 20) Bulgaria 4 MF Stoyan Kitov 27 August 1938 (aged 23) 5 DF Dimitar Kostov 26 July 1936 (aged 25) 8 DF Dimitar Dimov 13 December 1937 (aged 24) 1 FW Dimitar Yakimov 12 July 1941 (aged 20) 12 DF Dobromir Zhechev 12 November 1942 (aged 19) 22 FW Georgi Nikolov 1 May 1931 (aged 31) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted December 4, 2021 I wonder how many will Q/O. All the English ones will think and I suspect most likely for the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish ones. From the rest of the world Pele and Seeler will but who else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: I wonder how many will Q/O. All the English ones will think and I suspect most likely for the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish ones. From the rest of the world Pele and Seeler will but who else? Just Fontaine is a certainty. As is Giovanni Trappatoni for his managerial exploits. Lorenzo Buffon (due to being related to Gianluigi Buffon), Gianni Rivera (both football and politics) and Karl-Heinz Schnellinger (played in the 1966 World Cup final) are all possibles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoorSlammer 563 Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: I wonder how many will Q/O. All the English ones will think and I suspect most likely for the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish ones. From the rest of the world Pele and Seeler will but who else? I assume Mario Zagallo, Giovanni Trappatoni, Gianni Rivera, Just Fontaine, Francisco Gento and Luis Suarez will, all for different reasons. And maybe Kurt Hamrin will, too. I can see Lorenzo Buffon getting one if he dies when his cousin Gianluigi is still a player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted December 4, 2021 It's a bit weird that some of the biggest names from World football from the late 50s/early 60s (Pele, Seeler, Fontaine, Charlton, Gento etc) are still going when a lot of the biggest names from the late 70s/80s (Cruyff, Rossi, Maradona etc) are no more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,203 Posted December 4, 2021 7 hours ago, whoismakoto said: If I can guess who are these players: I'll highlight those whom I'm not sure 1954 Mexico Ranulfo Cortes Sergio Bravo 1958 Czechoslovakia Václav Hovorka Paraguay Salvador Villalba Hungary Máté Fenyvesi Zoltán Friedmanszky Mihály Vasas Mexico Enrique Sesma Soviet Union Nikita Simonyan Your list intrigued me, so I've gone back and looked at the differences. I hadn't seen Aputkhin's page on Wikipedia had been updated that he died in 2003, so thanks for that. I'll update my records and edit my post. I was also wondering why you didn't include Bencsics of Hungary and then I found this... https://www.magyarfutball.hu/hu/szemelyek/adatlap/108/bencsics_jozsef which I will update on Wikipedia. Thanks for this! Ranulfo Cortes died in 2000. Bravo I don't think I've found a date of death but I saw another report that referred to someone else or a few players as "the last surviving". Bravo wasn't on either list. Hovorka died 14th October 1996 (on numerous websites including Czech Wiki - https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A1clav_Hovorka) I can't find my records of why I removed Sesma and Villalba currently but I think in the latter case, it is similiar to the Bolivian's of 1950. There's no evidence they're dead, but equally there's no evidence of them alive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arsewipe 202 Posted December 5, 2021 17 hours ago, Deathrace said: It's a bit weird that some of the biggest names from World football from the late 50s/early 60s (Pele, Seeler, Fontaine, Charlton, Gento etc) are still going when a lot of the biggest names from the late 70s/80s (Cruyff, Rossi, Maradona etc) are no more. Partly due to a certain white powdery substance that was in abundance to the more modern players........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
