Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Although there is an argument this could be within the Time Added thread, to be fair there is 8,000,000 threads about music, so why not two about football.Some of those interested enough would have noticed my posts on early deaths of World Cup Players - but this is Deathlist and DDP ideas are wanted, I am sure and it is unlikely Emile Heskey, Paolo Wanchope and Philippe Lahm are going to be on many death pools.In time, I& will try and do all the pre-1962 surviving players, but for now, I will round up the 1950 players and pre-1938 - of which there is only one, Rene Llense, who is near 100 (EDIT Now dead). He was however a squad player who never played.Of the 1950 players, there are a maximum of 40 alive. However that World Cup saw a lot of South American teams, whose players are virtual unknowns, so the likelihood is that more Mexicans, Chilean, Bolivian and Paraguyan players are dead. 1954 and 1958 should be slightly more accurate.Some famous names on there though and some certainly worth a stab on the DDP.This will also be where other World Cup Players' deaths can be posted - and why not start as I mean to go on, with the death of Jan Zlocha, who played for the Czechoslovakian team in 1970 - 7 of their squad dead already. http://www.cas.sk/cl...ntant-cssr.html (IN Czech)Note the below is only who played, not squad members (like Llense);Switzerland||| Player ||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age-|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Adolphe Hug|||||||||||||||(1923-09-23)23 September 1923 (aged 26)Yugoslavia||| Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||| DoB/Age13||||||||||||||||||||||||Željko Čajkovski|||||||||(1925-05-05)5 May 1925 (aged 25)Mexico|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age1|||||||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Carbajal||||||(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 21)16|||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Guevara|||||||||19308||||||||||||||||||||||||||Héctor Ortiz||||||||||||||||(1928-12-20)20 December 1928 (aged 21)9||||||||||||||||||||||||||Mario Pérez||||||||||||||(1927-02-19)19 February 1927 (aged 23)7|||||||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Septién||||||||||(1923-01-18)18 January 1923 (aged 27)England||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age-|||||||||||||||||||||||Roy Bentley||||||||||||||||||||(1924-05-17)17 May 1924 (aged 26)Chile||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/ Age-4|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Álvarez Jiménez|||||||||||||(1928-05-23)23 May 1928 (aged 22)2||||||||||||||||||||||Arturo Farías|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1927-11-01)1 November 1927 (aged 22)15|||||||||||||||||||Carlos Ibáñez|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1931-11-30)30 November 1931 (aged 18)8||||||||||||||||||||||Luis Mayanés|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-01-15)15 January 1925 (aged 25)9|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Muñoz|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-04-28)28 April 1928 (aged 22)12|||||||||||||||||||Andrés Prieto|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-12-19)19 December 1928 (aged 21)3|||||||||||||||||||||Fernando Roldán||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1921-04-01)1 April 1921 (aged 29)USA|||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age6|||||||||||||||||||||Walter Bahr||||||||||||||||||(1927-04-01)1 April 1927 (aged 23)Sweden||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age9|||||||||||||||||||||Karl-Erik Palmér||||||||(1929-04-17)17 April 1929 (aged 21)Italy||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age8|||||||||||||||||||Giampiero Boniperti||||||||(1928-07-04)4 July 1928 (aged 21)14|||||||||||||||||Osvaldo Fattori||||||||||||||||(1922-06-22)22 June 1922 (aged 28)-2||||||||||||||||||Attilio Giovannini|||||||||||||(1924-07-30)30 July 1924 (aged 25)17||||||||||||||||Egisto Pandolfini|||||||||||||||(1926-02-19)19 February 1926 (aged 24)Paraguay||||||||Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age8|||||||||||||||||||||||||Atilio López||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-02-05)5 February 1925 (aged 25)9|||||||||||||||||||||||||Darío Saguier||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1926-09-11)11 September 1926 (aged 23)Bolivia|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age-4|||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Greco||||||||||||||||(1923-09-17)17 September 1923 (aged 26)24 survivors (who played a game) **Note this (being alive) is presumed in the case of 3 teams*** There's also only a few others who might be alive that were a squad member: Switzerland: Friedlander, Lusenti, Siegenthaler, Beerli, Gyger Yugoslavia: Zlatkovic Mexico: Cuburu, Cordoba, M Gutierrez Chile: Rojas Italy: Caprile Paraguay: Berni, Paredes, Canete, Cantero Bolivia: a lot of them but I think they've all gone Edited July 7, 2016 by Octopus of Odstock 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 4, 2013 EDIT - Thanks to Death Impends, who I've copied the layout from so I can update as per necessary. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 8,043 Posted July 5, 2013 I tried something a bit nicer looking, unfortunately since there's no table BBCode on this forum the best I could use was white "I" signs to emulate spaces. 1950 FIFA World Cup surviving players Switzerland||| Player ||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||René Bader||||||||||||||||(1922-08-07)7 August 1922 (aged 27) -|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Roger Bocquet|||||||||||(1921-04-09)9 April 1921 (aged 29) -|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Adolphe Hug|||||||||||||||(1923-09-23)23 September 1923 (aged 26) Yugoslavia||| Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||| DoB/Age 13||||||||||||||||||||||||Željko Čajkovski|||||||||(1925-05-05)5 May 1925 (aged 25) Mexico|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 1|||||||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Carbajal||||||(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 21) 16|||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Guevara|||||||||1930 12|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Gutiérrez|||||||(1920-04-08)8 April 1920 (aged 30) 5|||||||||||||||||||||||||Mario Ochoa||||||||||||||(1927-11-07)7 November 1927 (aged 22) 8||||||||||||||||||||||||||Héctor Ortiz||||||||||||||||(1928-12-20)20 December 1928 (aged 21) 9||||||||||||||||||||||||||Mario Pérez||||||||||||||(1927-02-19)19 February 1927 (aged 23) 7|||||||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Septién||||||||||(1923-01-18)18 January 1923 (aged 27) Spain||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 1|||||||||||||||||||||||Ignacio Eizaguirre|||||||(1920-11-07)7 November 1920 (aged 29) 13||||||||||||||||||||José Parra||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-08-28)28 August 1925 (aged 24) 12||||||||||||||||||||Antoni Ramallets||||||||||(1924-06-04)4 June 1924 (aged 26) England||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -|||||||||||||||||||||||Roy Bentley||||||||||||||||||||(1924-05-17)17 May 1924 (aged 26) -|||||||||||||||||||||||Tom Finney|||||||||||||||||||||(1922-04-05)5 April 1922 (aged 28) -|||||||||||||||||||||||Bert Williams||||||||||||||||||(1920-01-31)31 January 1920 (aged 30) Chile||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/ Age -4|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Álvarez Jiménez|||||||||||||(1928-05-23)23 May 1928 (aged 22) 11|||||||||||||||||||Guillermo Díaz||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1930-12-29)29 December 1930 (aged 19) 2||||||||||||||||||||||Arturo Farías|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1927-11-01)1 November 1927 (aged 22) 15|||||||||||||||||||Carlos Ibáñez|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1931-11-30)30 November 1931 (aged 18) 8||||||||||||||||||||||Luis Mayanés|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-01-15)15 January 1925 (aged 25) 9|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Muñoz|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-04-28)28 April 1928 (aged 22) 12|||||||||||||||||||Andrés Prieto|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-12-19)19 December 1928 (aged 21) 3|||||||||||||||||||||Fernando Roldán||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1921-04-01)1 April 1921 (aged 29) USA|||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 6|||||||||||||||||||||Walter Bahr||||||||||||||||||(1927-04-01)1 April 1927 (aged 23) 1||||||||||||||||||||Frank Borghi||||||||||||||||(1925-04-09)9 April 1925 (aged 25) Sweden||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 9|||||||||||||||||||||Karl-Erik Palmér||||||||(1929-04-17)17 April 1929 (aged 21) Italy||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 18|||||||||||||||||Amedeo Amadei|||||||||||||||(1921-07-26)26 July 1921 (aged 28) 8|||||||||||||||||||Giampiero Boniperti||||||||(1928-07-04)4 July 1928 (aged 21) 14|||||||||||||||||Osvaldo Fattori||||||||||||||||(1922-06-22)22 June 1922 (aged 28) -2||||||||||||||||||Attilio Giovannini|||||||||||||(1924-07-30)30 July 1924 (aged 25) 17||||||||||||||||Egisto Pandolfini|||||||||||||||(1926-02-19)19 February 1926 (aged 24) 1||||||||||||||||||Lucidio Sentimenti|||||||||||(1920-07-01)1 July 1920 (aged 29) Paraguay||||||||Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 3||||||||||||||||||||||||||Casiano Céspedes|||||||||||||||1924 8|||||||||||||||||||||||||Atilio López||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-02-05)5 February 1925 (aged 25) 9|||||||||||||||||||||||||Darío Saguier||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1926-09-11)11 September 1926 (aged 23) Uruguay||||||||Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 6|||||||||||||||||||||||Alcides Ghiggia||||||||||||||||(1926-12-22)22 December 1926 (aged 23) Bolivia|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -4|||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Greco||||||||||||||||(1923-09-17)17 September 1923 (aged 26) 1|||||||||||||||||||||||Benigno Gutiérrez||||||||(1925-09-01)1 September 1925 (aged 24) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted July 5, 2013 For those who are interested....here are the living players that didn't get to play in the 1950 Fifa World Cup (but were in the squad). It's sorted by year of birth and each country has its own color. Felice Soldini....................Born 1915.....Switzerland...1950 FIFA World Cup Castor Cantero.................Born 1918.....Paraguay.......1950 FIFA World Cup Max Prieto.........................Born 1919....Mexico............1950 FIFA World Cup Rudolf Gyger.....................Born 1920....Switzerland...1950 FIFA World Cup Hans-Pieter Friedländer...Born 1920....Switzerland....1950 FIFA World Cup René Quitral......................Born 1920....Chile...............1950 FIFA World Cup Alfredo...............................Born 1920....Brazil..............1950 FIFA World Cup Francisco Urroz.................Born 1921....Chile...............1950 FIFA World Cup Fernando Campos.............Born 1921....Chile...............1950 FIFA World Cup Gerhard Lusenti.................Born 1921....Switzerland....1950 FIFA World Cup Manuel Gávilan..................Born 1921....Paraguay........1950 FIFA World Cup Giuseppe Casari................Born 1922....Italy.................1950 FIFA World Cup Eugen Corrodi....................Born 1922....Switzerland....1950 FIFA World Cup Enrique Avalos...................Born 1922....Paraguay........1950 FIFA World Cup Gonzalito............................Born 1922....Paraguay.........1950 FIFA World Cup Ingvar Rydell......................Born 1922....Sweden............1950 FIFA World Cup Ervin Katnic........................Born 1922....Yugoslavia......1950 FIFA World Cup Hans Siegenthaler..............Born 1923....Switzerland.....1950 FIFA World Cup Kurt Rey...............................Born 1923....Switzerland......1950 FIFA World Cup Antonio Flores.....................Born 1923....Mexico............1950 FIFA World Cup Rodrigo Ruiz........................Born 1923....Mexico............1950 FIFA World Cup Juan Burgueno....................Born 1923....Uruguay..........1950 FIFA World Cup Osvaldo Saez.......................Born 1923....Chile.................1950 FIFA World Cup Park Jae-Seung...................Born 1924....South Korea....1950 FIFA World Cup Gregorio Gomez..................Born 1924.....Mexico............1950 FIFA World Cup Manuel Machuca..................Born 1924....Chile................1950 FIFA World Cup Nilton Santos........................Born 1925.....Brazil..............1950 FIFA World Cup Hector Vilches......................Born 1926.....Uruguay.........1950 FIFA World Cup Rodolfo Pini..........................Born 1926.....Uruguay.........1950 FIFA World Cup José Naranjo........................Born 1926......Mexico...........1950 FIFA World Cup Carlos Romero.....................Born 1927......Uruguay.........1950 FIFA World Cup Arturo Farias........................Born 1927.......Chile..............1950 FIFA World Cup Kurt Svensson......................Born 1927.......Sweden........1950 FIFA World Cup Samuel Cubru.......................Born 1928.......Mexico..........1950 FIFA World Cup Carlos Rojas..........................Born 1928.......Chile.............1950 FIFA World Cup Emilio Caprile........................Born 1928........Italy..............1950 FIFA World Cup Vladimir Beara.......................Born 1928.......Yugoslavia...1950 FIFA World Cup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 5, 2013 Swede, most of those are dead and most of them did play. Rydell (who died last week) and the Swiss bar the youngest three are dead, so are the majority of Mexicans, Chileans and Paraguyans. Dont rely on English Wikipedia, I've been researching this for decades. Also South Korea weren't there in 1950. But of the non-players, Beara and Nilton Santos are the best known. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 5, 2013 Just to confirm some: Rene Quitral d. 27th Nov 1982 Ingvar Rydell d. 20 June 2013 Rodrigo Ruiz d. 1999 Juan Burgueno d. 21 Sep 1997 Hector Vilches d. 23 Sep 1998 Carlos Romero d. 28 Jul 1999 Rodolfo Pini d. 31 May 2000 Jose Naranjo d. 13 Dec 2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted July 5, 2013 Swede, most of those are dead and most of them did play. Rydell (who died last week) and the Swiss bar the youngest three are dead, so are the majority of Mexicans, Chileans and Paraguyans. Dont rely on English Wikipedia, I've been researching this for decades. Also South Korea weren't there in 1950. But of the non-players, Beara is the best known. Sorry...I had so little information about these Hispanic players, so I just included everyone that didn't have any death info. With your valuable knowledge in this topic, it would be awesome if you could update the Wikipedia with some good references. My own list has players from 1954 World Cup as well, so that's why the South Korean guy accidentally got on the 1950 list. But thanks for clearing this up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 5, 2013 I would update WIkipedia, but it doesn't like, encourage or support independent research done via books and online death records (Because I've spent ages trying to edit racing drivers without success. So now I don't bother. 1954 to come in the next week or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,991 Posted July 5, 2013 You would think wikipedia would let some of the stuff be updated. Same thing with imdb there are people with only limited credits who have likely been dead for decades still listed as alive or unknown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted July 5, 2013 I have a Wikipedia account and I would love to make an attempt to update. But I don't want my account to be associated with a site of this character, as it would reveal too much. As for Original Research policies, I don't think that a lot of people monitor the stubs about old footballers. For example, I once added a blog as a death reference for a fairly obscure actress. So far, no one's deleted it. If you don't want to try it, maybe you can provide the sources to someone else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 5, 2013 Well, all of the above are somewhere on the net; Rene Quitral - Chilean site - search for "1982" "Rene Quitral" Ingvar Rydell d. 20 June 2013 - I think updated now Rodrigo Ruiz d. 1999 - on a Spanish Wiki Juan Burgueno d. 21 Sep 1997 - all of these Uruguayans are on this link - http://baudoscampeoes.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/copa-do-mundo-de-1950-no-brasil.html Hector Vilches d. 23 Sep 1998 Carlos Romero d. 28 Jul 1999 Rodolfo Pini d. 31 May 2000 Jose Naranjo d. 13 Dec 2012 - His Spanish Wiki page Friedlander was in a book - I think one of the Sky Sports Yearbooks. Lusenti and some of the others were on a very good site called Player History, but it seems to have long disappeared so all the online history has gone, sadly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted July 5, 2013 Is the Player History website you're talking about in any way related to this forum? http://forum.playerhistory.com/ This link states that they will open up a new Player History site soon. There's even some contact info provided. http://www.playerhistory.com/ Anyway, it's too bad to hear about Rydell's death. Not too long ago, Sweden lost Hasse Jeppson and now this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted July 6, 2013 Looking at who will be the last surviving player to play in a world cup in the 20th century. Samuel eto'o and Michael Owen appear to be the prime candidates. Obviously long way off yet considering there are players still alive from the 1950 / 1954 world cup etc. I wonder if any player from 2010 world cup has died ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,624 Posted July 6, 2013 The 2010 players are all at the starting line, engine, although (insert Rob Green joke here). Triple O really providing for the culture with this thread, it's the kind of thing I can imagine I'm going to become increasingly obsessed with as more and more pass on. Pretty sure this research will be stolen for a filler blog article on some newspaper site soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,624 Posted July 6, 2013 Trying to work out which of the 1950s survivors would get obits. Obviously all of the English players, and both Bahr and Borghi played in the USA's 1-0 win over England. Ghiggia would be the oldest surviving World Cup winner (correct?), so he should be OK. Bonpietri is a top 100 player of all time imho, and Amadei is one of the top scorers in Serie A history so they should both manage it no problem. Most of the rest could depend on whether Jonathan Wilson has the time to write about them that week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 6, 2013 To be honest, not many more than you've mentioned. Carbajal will and Ramallets should. Eizaguerre.. maybe. Palmer is a slim-line chance. The rest... nah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mac Posted July 12, 2013 That Paul Gazzione isn't old like the guys who played in the 50s but his health is faded he could die soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) 1954 survivors (including non-playing members of the squad) BrazilNo......Pos......Player..................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club19......4FW....Índio....................(1931-03-01)1 March 1931 (aged 23).............0...........FlamengoYugoslaviaNo......Pos......Player..................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club21......4FW...Todor Veselinović...(1930-10-22)22 October 1930 (aged 23)......2...........Vojvodina Novi SadFranceNo......Pos......Player...........................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club1........1GK.....François Remetter.......(1928-08-08)8 August 1928 (aged 25)..........4..............FC Metz8........3MF.....Guillaume Bieganski....(1932-11-03)3 November 1932 (aged 21)......1.............Lille OSC18......4FW...Raymond Kopa.............(1931-10-13)13 October 1931 (aged 22).......13..........Stade de Reims20......4FW...Ernest Schultz...............(1931-01-29)29 January 1931 (aged 23).......0............Olympique de LyonMexicoNo......Pos......Player.....................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club1........1GK.....Antonio Carbajal....(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 25)..............11...........FC León7........4FW....Alfredo Torres.........(1931-05-31)31 May 1931 (aged 23)............3.............Atlas9........4FW....José Luis Lamadrid.(1930-07-03)3 July 1930 (aged 23)..............5.............Necaxa10......4FW....Tomás Balcázar.......(1931-12-21)21 December 1931 (aged 22)..9.............CD Guadalajara13......2DF.....Sergio Bravo...........(1927-11-27)27 November 1927 (aged 26)...6.............FC León16......3MF.....Pedro Nájera...........(1929-02-03)3 February 1929 (aged 25)......0............Club América17......4FW....Carlos Septién.........(1923-01-18)18 January 1923 (aged 31).....11...........CD Tampico22......4FW....Ranulfo Cortés........DOB unknown................................................0............CD OroHungaryNo......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club7........4FW.....József Tóth...........(1929-05-16)16 May 1929 (aged 25)............2............Csepeli VasasWest GermanyNo......Pos......Player..................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club6........3MF......Horst Eckel..........(1932-02-08)8 February 1932 (aged 22)......8.............1. FC Kaiserslautern20......4FW.....Hans Schäfer.......(1927-10-19)19 October 1927 (aged 26)......5.............1. FC KölnTurkeyNo......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club2.......2DF......Rıdvan Bolatlı........(1928-12-02)2 December 1928 (aged 25).....2............MKE Ankaragücü SK7.......4FW.....Erol Keskin...........(1927-03-02)2 March 1927 (aged 27)............1............Adalet SK Istanbul10.....4FW.....Burhan Sargun.....(1929-02-11)11 February 1929 (aged 25).....5............Fenerbahçe SK12.....1GK.....Şükrü Ersoy..........(1934-01-14)14 January 1934 (aged 20).......3............Vefa SK13.....2DF......Bülent Eken..........(1923-01-26)26 January 1923 (aged 31)......11...........Galatasaray S.K.15.....3MF.....Mehmet Dinçer......(1933-02-20)20 February 1933 (aged 21).....0...........Fenerbahçe SK17.....2DF.....Naci Erdem............(1931-01-28)28 January 1931 (aged 23).......0...........Fenerbahçe SK18.....2DF.....Kaçmaz Akgün.......(1935-02-19)19 February 1935 (aged 19).....1..........MKE Ankaragücü SK22.....4FW....Coşkun Taş............(1935-04-23)23 April 1935 (aged 19)............2..........MKE Ankaragücü SKKorea RepublicNo......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club3.......2DF.......Park Jae-Seung....(1923-04-01)1 April 1923 (aged 31).............0.............Seoul Army ClubUruguayNo......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club2........2DF.....José Santamaría...(1929-07-31)31 July 1929 (aged 24)............3.............Nacional6........3MF....Roberto Leopardi...(1933-07-19)19 July 1933 (aged 20)............3.............Nacional13......2DF....Mirto Davoine.........(1933-02-13)13 February 1933 (aged 21)....1............Peñarol15......3MF....Urbano Rivera........(1926-04-01)1 April 1926 (aged 28)..............8...........Danubio18......4FW...Rafael Souto..........(1930-10-24)24 October 1930 (aged 23).......4...........Nacional20......4FW...Omar Méndez.........(1934-08-07)7 August 1934 (aged 19)..........3...........NacionalAustriaNo......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club9........4FW....Theodor Wagner...(1927-08-06)6 August 1927 (aged 26)..........28...........Wacker Wien11......4FW....Alfred Körner.........(1926-02-14)14 February 1926 (aged 28).....0............Rapid Wien12......3MF.....Karl Stotz..............(1927-03-27)27 March 1927 (aged 27)..........10..........Austria Wien13......3MF.....Walter Kollmann....(1932-06-17)17 June 1932 (aged 21)............3...........Wacker Wien17.....3MF.....Alfred Teinitzer........(1929-07-29)29 July 1929 (aged 24).............0...........Linzer ASKCzechoslovakiaNo......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club15.....4FW.....Ladislav Kačáni.........(1931-04-01)1 April 1931 (aged 23)..............7............CH Bratislava16.....3MF......Zdeněk Procházka....(1928-01-12)12 January 1928 (aged 26)......1.............Spartak Praha Sokolovo17.....4FW.....Tadeáš Kraus............(1932-10-22)22 October 1932 (aged 21)......5............Křídla vlasti Olomouc20.....4FW.....Kazimír Gajdoš..........(1934-03-28)28 March 1934 (aged 20).........0............Tatran PrešovScotlandNo......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club3.......2DF.....Jock Aird.....................(1926-02-18)18 February 1926 (aged 28)....2.............Burnley5.......2DF.....Tommy Docherty.........(1928-08-24)24 August 1928 (aged 25)........5.............Preston North End7.......3MF.....Doug Cowie................(1926-05-01)1 May 1926 (aged 28)..............6.............Dundee8.......4FW....John Mackenzie..........(1925-09-04)4 September 1925 (aged 28)...4.............Partick Thistle17.....3MF.....David Mathers*...........(1931-10-25)25 October 1931 (aged 22).....1.............Partick Thistle19.....4FW....Jimmy Binning*............(1927-07-25)25 July 1927 (aged 26)............0............Queen of the South21.....4FW....Ernie Copland*............(1927-04-15)15 April 1927 (aged 27)...........0............Raith Rovers22.....4FW....Ian McMillan*...............(1931-03-18)18 March 1931 (aged 23)........3............Airdrieonians Only 13 members of the squad actually travelled to Switzerland for the 1954 tournament., Mathers, Binning, Copland and McMillan were not required to travel and stayed at home on reserve.EnglandNo......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club8.......4FW.....Ivor Broadis..............(1922-12-18)18 December 1922 (aged 31)...11...........Newcastle United12.....1GK.....Ted Burgin................(1927-04-29)29 April 1927 (aged 27)............0............Sheffield United16.....3MF.....Albert Quixall.............(1933-08-09)9 August 1933 (aged 20)..........3...........Sheffield Wednesday22.....4FW....Harry Hooper*...........(1933-06-14)14 June 1933 (aged 21)............0...........West Ham United Only 17 of the 22 official squad members actually travelled to Switzerland for the 1954 tournament. Harry Hooper was on reserve status and remained at home awaiting a call if the need arose. It did notSwitzerlandNo......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club1.......1GK......Walter Eich...............(1925-05-27)27 May 1925 (aged 29).............0.............Young Boys Bern2.......1GK......Eugene Parlier.........(1930-12-05)5 December 1930 (aged 23)......0.............Servette FC12.....3MF.....Gilbert Fesselet.........(1928-04-16)16 April 1928 (aged 26).............0.............FC La Chaux-de-Fonds13.....3MF.....Ivo Frosio..................(1930-04-27)27 April 1930 (aged 24).............0.............Grasshopper-Club Zürich19....4FW.....Marcel Mauron..........(1929-03-25)25 March 1929 (aged 25)...........0............FC La Chaux-de-Fonds22....4FW.....Roger Vonlanthen.....(1929-02-13)13 February 1929 (aged 25)......0............Grasshopper-Club ZürichItalyNo......Pos......Player.......................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club8........4FW....Egisto Pandolfini.......(1926-02-19)19 February 1926 (aged 28)....14............Roma9........4FW....Carlo Galli.................(1931-03-06)6 March 1931 (aged 23)...........2.............Roma13......2DF....Ardico Magnini...........(1928-10-21)21 October 1928 (aged 25)......4.............Fiorentina18......3MF....Gino Pivatelli.............(1933-03-27)27 March 1933 (aged 21)..........0............Bologna19......4FW...Giampiero Boniperti..(1928-07-04)4 July 1928 (aged 25)................22..........JuventusBelgiumNo......Pos......Player..........................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club4........2DF......Constant Huysmans...(1928-10-11)11 October 1928 (aged 25).......5..............Royal Beerschot AC13.....2DF.......Henri Dirickx................(1927-07-07)7 July 1927 (aged 26)..............13............Union St. Gilloise14.....3MF......Robert Van Kerkhoven.(1924-10-01)1 October 1924 (aged 29).......5..............Daring Club69 survivors Edited July 7, 2016 by Octopus of Odstock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,215 Posted July 14, 2013 Again, if someone clever can do the necessary and tidy it all up, I'd be very appreciative. EDIT - Thanks Death Impends, copied layout again so I can update re. Santos etc. 66 playing survivors (as far as we know) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,639 Posted July 15, 2013 Again, if someone clever can do the necessary and tidy it all up, I'd be very appreciative. 66 playing survivors (as far as we know) Surely that should be surviving players if they are still all playing we have no hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,624 Posted July 15, 2013 As an addendum to that grammatical zinger, I think that every player from the 1990 WC has now retired, with Kasey Keller (retired in 2011) being the last man standing. 1994 WC players still going: Viola (Brazil), Faryd Mondragon (Colombia), Teddy Lucic (Sweden). Not sure if Viola actually saw any action on the pitch though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted July 15, 2013 As an addendum to that grammatical zinger, I think that every player from the 1990 WC has now retired, with Kasey Keller (retired in 2011) being the last man standing. 1994 WC players still going: Viola (Brazil), Faryd Mondragon (Colombia), Teddy Lucic (Sweden). Not sure if Viola actually saw any action on the pitch though. Did he ever? He was doing just about the only decent bit of play in that final... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,624 Posted July 15, 2013 Unsurprisingly I've wiped the 94 final from my memory. All I remember is Baggio's successful penalty and subsequent celebration. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted July 15, 2013 Well, it wasn't a great final, it was probably the dullest World Cup final ever in what was a good tournament IMHO (don't get suckered in by the revisionist view of it being otherwise, that's just football hipsters circumventing England's absence, which as Euro's 84 & 08 show, merely enhances a tournament's credentials!). Viola came on in extra-time as I recall and was briefly dazzling. OK, nothing special compared to 1982 Brazil (shame you were too young for that, bwoy!), but in the context of the final itself, it was as if Brazil has thrown on the offspring of Garrincha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,534 Posted July 15, 2013 2002 is the first tournament I really remember: in fact, seemingly as soon as I got into football, Scotland stopped qualifying for things. All the tournaments since then have had their merits and flaws. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
