The Hare's Death Pool

[Deathray 2,940]

Welcome to the Hares Death Pool - aka the reverse Deathrace - no denial will be made of the source of inspiration for the game, the game where you try and predict who'll make it through most of the year before dying. The game where 25 players dying on the 1st January is worth 500 points - 24 players dying on the 1st January being a mere 0 points and 1 player dying on the 31st December being worth either 614 and 976 points. Can you find the reliable soles who'll die late in the year? Then enter a team.

 

The Rules (Last updated 6 March 2016)

• All teams must contain 25 picks. A maximum 5 subs are allowed.
• All picks must be humans aged over 18 on January 1st of the game year..
• Death row prisoners only score if they die of other causes, those still on trial will still score points if sentenced to execution after 0000 on January 1st.
• Celebrities qualify if they achieve an obituary or article about their death in a local, national or even specialist newspaper - the article does not need to specifically relate to their death, instead just mention it and date it. or website/magazine/paper. If in doubt cite your death note for approval. There is absolutely no requirement for obits to be in the English language, however translations should be provided if they are not.
• Entries must be posted between 0001 on the 1st December and 2359 on December 31st, if a pick dies before 2359 but it's not known until January 1st they may be replaced until 2359 GMT on January 1st provided the replacement hasn't died between 0000 and their addition to the team on January 1st. The Game runner is permitted to enter a team on the express understanding that team is visible prior to the entries opening.
• The game runner is permitted to permit a team submitting within the first few days of January at their own discretion, under the proviso no other teams have scored upon the late teams entry. The current game runner does not allow late entries.
• The exception to this is if the late team includes someone sentenced to death between 0000 on the 1st January and it's submission, in that instance the player will be kindly told to fuck off and have the entire team rejected, ditto for replacements. The current game runner does allow late entries. 
• Murdering your chosen "celebrities" is both against the rules and illegal regardless of willing participation.
• Keeping alive another persons pick against the picks will to benefit in this game is also against the rules.
• If assisted euthanasia becomes legal in the future, contestants in this dead pool are forbidden from encouraging/discouraging/or actively taking part in their or another contestants picks decision regarding this or being an active participant in their euthanasia. This rules apply to assisted euthanasia in other countries of picks.
• Celebrities are disqualified if they are a celebrity because of their impending death. For clarification Tom Attwater - fundraiser dying of cancer was an eligible pick for hia fundraising. This man who became critically ill after being hit by a trolley in M&S would not be an eligible pick if his identity were known for a game held in 2013, if the man were to recover, his extremely dubious claim to fame as the man hit by a trolley in M&S would be sufficient to see him eligible as a pick if he garnered the required obit.
• All entries must be posted in this thread or PMed to me, they'll then be posted in this thread as one post for each game year.
• The onus is always on the player to check that the person in question is alive at the start of the competition and replace them within the 24 hour leeway allotted, if this is not something you are willing to do please provide up to 5 substitutes. Even if you're convinced all you're players are breathing you may wish to provide substitutes just to be safe (a player who shall remain nameless provided a pick who died in 2005 in their team, we are all capable of making mistakes - better safe than sorry)
• Blatant plagiarism of another persons team, in the eye of the game runner, is punishable by expulsion and a 5 year ban on entering the competition.

 

Scoring System (Last Updated 6 March 2016)

• 1 Point for each day of the year that passes before your celebs death (if they die on the 10th of January you are awarded 9 points for example) up until the games close at midnight on the 31st December.
• 250 point bonus if one of your "celebrities" dies on 31st December in that game year (i.e a 31st death will score 614 points in a normal year or 615 points in a leap year rather than the 364 or 365 points it would normally accrue)
• Pick 1 of your celebrities as a wild card to double the points for that pick upon their death. (i.e if they die on the 9th January you'll get 16 points). Wildcards are calculated before the 250 point bonus, meaning are 31st December wildcard will score 978 points not 1228
• 500 point bonus if your entire list perish of this mortal coil in the game year.

So let the games begin who do you think will very nearly make it to next year but alas lose out?

 

2014 Champion - Rotten Ali

12 Teams - Final Scoreboard

2015 Champion - Toast

16 Teams - Final Scoreboard

2016 Champion - Gcreptile

17 Teams - Final Scoreboard

2017 Champion - Grim Up North

24 Teams - Final Scoreboard

2018 Champion - ??????

30 Teams - Latest Scoreboard

2019 Champion - ???????

XX Teams - Latest Scoreboard (TBA)

 

Records

Lowest Scoring Hit - maryportfuncity with 0 points for Dorothy Baldwin (2014) [1 was awarded in consolation] [1st January 2014]

 

Highest Scoring Hit - Sir Creep - 666 points (George H.W Bush on 30 Nov 2018 with WC points).

 

Time Without a Hit - YoungWillz - 243 days and counting in 2018

 

Most Hits:  -  msc 16 in 2018

 

All Time Leaderboard - Points Tally (up to 2017)

 

 

 

Grim Up North 2715 (2017)

Shaun of the Dead 2507 (2017)

The Unknown 2373 (2017)

gcreptile 2223 (2016)

Death Impends 1994 (2017)

The Dead Cow 1987 (2017)

msc 1941 (2017)

Sir Creep 1860 (2016)

JoeyRuss 1854 (2017)

The Unknown Man 1776 (2016)

Rotten Ali 1762 (2014)

maryportfuncity 1747 (2016)

Death Impends 1709 (2016)

Deathray 1668 (2017)

CaptainChorizo 1627 (2016)

Toast 1607 (2015)

Death Impends 1606 (2014)

Whoam 1599 (2016)

Toast 1583 (2017)

Toast 1565 (2016)

Book 1521 (2016)

Shaun of the Dead 1482 (2016)

Estuarian Float 1480 (2014)

JiromeonKiruma 1478 (2017)

Sir Creep 1476 (2017)

Whoam 1431 (2017)

CaptainChorizo 1416 (2014)

gcreptile 1380 (2017)

CaptainChorizo 1347 (2017)

drol 1284 (2017)

Whoam 1209 (2015)

Rotten Ali 1159 (2016)

Death Impends 1121 (2015)

Book 1120 (2017)

The Unknown Man 1101 (2015)

Morbidkid 1096 (2016)

USFuneralDirector 1067 (2014)

Phantom of the Midway 1051 (2017)

deadsox 1036 (2015)

msc 1026 (2016)

Jiromeon Kiruma 1001 (2016)

Toast 984 (2014)

maryportfuncity 945 (2015)

the_engineer 943 (2015)

Captain_Chorizo 922 (2015)

the_engineer 878 (2014)

Whoam 862 (2016)

Switch 850 (2016)

Rotten Ali 840 (2017)

msc 821 (2015)

Widow's Peak 796 (2017)

Pedro67 766 (2017)

maryportfuncity 739 (2014)

Book 724 (2014)

Bibliogryphon 6862 (2017)

Shaun of the Dead 646 (2015)

The Unknown Man 638 (2014)

Eesti 617 (2015)

msc 593 (2014)

gcreptile 581 (2015)

Rotten Ali 441 (2015)

YoungWillz 383 (2016)

YoungWillz 376 (2017)

Book 316 (2015)

ImNotHades 307 (2017)

Estuarian Float 264 (2015)

Bibliogryphon 228 (2016)

rockhopperpenguin 223 (2017)

Bibliogryphon 114 (2015)

 

 

[Paul Bearer 6,099]

Bit similar to MPFC's game?

[Deathray 2,940]

Bit similar to MPFC's game?

 

It's the opposite, you're aiming for people who'll last until the end of the year rather than people who will croak in the first week, so you should be picking different people. For mpfc it makes sense to pick the 3 months to live brigade for this it doesn't.

[maryportfuncity 10,630]

Bit similar to MPFC's game?

 

It's the opposite, you're aiming for people who'll last until the end of the year rather than people who will croak in the first week, so you should be picking different people. For mpfc it makes sense to pick the 3 months to live brigade for this it doesn't.

 

Absolutely, the whole point here is that they only score if they die, and assuming they die, they get a point for every day of 2014 that they lived. So Mandela would be a big hitter this year, Biggs a non-event (probably), I may well give this a go and line up some vulnerable types famed for general coffin dodging - Gazza, Clive James etc.

[Deathray 2,940]

Bit similar to MPFC's game?

 

It's the opposite, you're aiming for people who'll last until the end of the year rather than people who will croak in the first week, so you should be picking different people. For mpfc it makes sense to pick the 3 months to live brigade for this it doesn't.

 

Absolutely, the whole point here is that they only score if they die, and assuming they die, they get a point for every day of 2014 that they lived. So Mandela would be a big hitter this year, Biggs a non-event (probably), I may well give this a go and line up some vulnerable types famed for general coffin dodging - Gazza, Clive James etc.

 

Vulnerable coffin dodgers sounds like a decent tactic.

[Deathray 2,940]

Just a reminder there's only 15 days left to get your entries in by PM or posting on this thread.

[Deathray 2,940]

Just a reminder that this is open for entries which currently stand at 0.

[Estuarian Float 97]

I'll be entering! Just havent made a team yet.

[Deathray 2,940]

I'll be entering! Just havent made a team yet.

 

Cool, good to know we'll have at least one participant!

[CaptainChorizo 1,976]

Robert Schuller-WC

Vera Lynn

Carman"Christian Singer"

Efrem Zimbalist Jr

Louis Jourdan

Judge Wapner

Jack Ramsay

Chuck Knoll

Sandy Jardine

Alex Forbes

Paul Gasciogne

Giorgio Moroder

Ian Paisley

Alexander Immich

Jan Troell

Jacques Rivette

Alain Resnais

Alan Young

Little Jimmie Dickens

Bob Cousy

Danielle Darrieux

Lauren Bacall

Prince Phillip

Herman Wouk

Katherine Helmond

 

A few people on there have long term illnesses that I think early 2015/late 2014ish. Most of these though are just guesses and the type of celebs who seem to die in Nov/Dec.

[Rotten Ali 600]

I'll like to have a go too, but I won't be putting an early doors team in.

[Death Impends 7,953]

Ditto, I'll probably submit something in a week's time.

[Book 3,545]

I'll be entering! Just havent made a team yet.

 

Same here

[Toast 16,127]

Absolutely, the whole point here is that they only score if they die, and assuming they die, they get a point for every day of 2014 that they lived. So Mandela would be a big hitter this year, Biggs a non-event (probably), I may well give this a go and line up some vulnerable types famed for general coffin dodging - Gazza, Clive James etc.

 

Ah!

[diana rots 24]

Bit similar to MPFC's game?

 

Excuse my ignorance but who or what is MPFC please?

[charon 4,943]

Bit similar to MPFC's game?

 

Excuse my ignorance but who or what is MPFC please?

maryportfuncity

[Estuarian Float 97]

I'll be entering! Just havent made a team yet.

 

Same here

 

Now be nice to the newbies..

[maryportfuncity 10,630]

Bit similar to MPFC's game?

 

Excuse my ignorance but who or what is MPFC please?

 

Remind me, which one of my 17 ex-wives are you?

[maryportfuncity 10,630]

Reet, I'm in.

 

Had some agonising over this one. I mean, do you go for the perenniel hangers on like Run Run Shaw or pack the team with nailed-on death (like Wilko Johnson) on the basis of assuring some points.

 

Just PM'd yers with the 20, let battle commence.

[msc 18,421]

Oh why not?

 

1.Sandy Gall

2 Alcides Ghiggia

3 Clifford Irving

4 Former Grand Duke Jean

5 Harry Gregg

6 Fats Domino

7 Bill Kerr

8 Patrick MacNee

9 Chuck Yeager

10 Ron Suart

11 Peter Maxwell Davies

12 Joao Havelange

13 Javier perez de Cuellar

14 Peter Dimmock

15 Gundrun Ure

16 Cliff Mitchelmore

17 John Nott

18 Herman Wouk

19 John Freeman

20 Mary Wilson

21 Tommy Docherty

22 Sir Paul Fox

23 Geoffrey Howe

24 Liam Cosgrave

25 Nigel Lawson

[the_engineer 1,415]

ok pm'ed you over my 25 i'm entering everything in 2014 just don't tell my g/f

[Estuarian Float 97]

Here's mine

 

1. Jen Arnold

2. Renée Asherson

3. Daisy Berkowitz

4. Ryan Buell

5. S. Truett Cathy

6. Jacques Chirac

7. Ann B. Davis

8. Piet de Jong

9. Rev Billy Graham

10. Superstar Billy Graham

11. Dave Groark (The Amazing Race)

12. Valerie Harper

13. Wilko Johnson

14. Casey Kasem

15. James Lovelock

16. Patrick Macnee

17. Joe McGinniss

18. Mario Oriani-Ambrosini

19. Mike Porcaro

20. Árpád Pusztai

21. Luise Rainer

22. Akkineni Nageswara Rao

23. Nancy Reagan

24. Robert Schuller

25. Dick Van Patten

[The Unknown Man 584]

Here's mine:

 

1. Sam Simon

2. Valerie Harper

3. Luise Rainer

4. Fidel Castro

5. Robert Schuller

6. Rev. Billy Graham

7. Wojciech Jaruzelski

8. Wilko Johnson

9. John McVie

10. Nancy Reagan

11. Kirk Douglas

12. Yasuhiro Nakasone

13. Helmut Schmidt

14. Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.

15. Penny Marshall

16. Ariel Sharon

17. Prince Philip

18. Ruth Bader Ginsburg

19. Maureen O'Hara

20. Clive James

21. Isabel Peron

22. Randy Travis

23. Mike Porcaro

24. Stephen Hawking

25. Rhonda Fleming

[diana rots 24]

 

The Rules

• All picks must be humans aged over 18 on January 1st 2014.
• Death row prisoners only score if they die of other causes, those still on trial will still score points if executed,
• Celebrities qualify if they achieve an obituary or article about their death in a local, national or even specialist newspaper. or website/magazine/paper. If in doubt cite your death note for approval.
• Entries must be posted by 1600 on December 31st 2013, no exceptions except if a pick dies post-deadline, they may be replaced until 1200 on January 1st 2014 provided the replacement hasn't died between 0000-1200 on January 1st 2014.
• Murdering your chosen "celebrities" is both against the rules and illegal.
• Celebrities are disqualified if they are a celebrity because of their impending death.
• All entries must be posted in this thread or PMed to me, they'll then be posted in this thread as one post.

 

 

 

 

Just to clarify please:

 

Does this mean that Wikipedia IS allowed as a source?

 

 

Are you able to elaborate (for the purposes of clarification) what is meant by "Celebrities are disqualified if they are a celebrity because of their impending death" I assume that this is there to rule out "my last six months on this planet" bloggers and baby X who is dying of cancer, but what about folk who have been in a coma for years (such as the Jewish Tv Ariel repairman)

 

Thanks

[Deathray 2,940]

The Rules

• All picks must be humans aged over 18 on January 1st 2014.
  
• Death row prisoners only score if they die of other causes, those still on trial will still score points if executed,
  
• Celebrities qualify if they achieve an obituary or article about their death in a local, national or even specialist newspaper. or website/magazine/paper. If in doubt cite your death note for approval.
  
• Entries must be posted by 1600 on December 31st 2013, no exceptions except if a pick dies post-deadline, they may be replaced until 1200 on January 1st 2014 provided the replacement hasn't died between 0000-1200 on January 1st 2014.
  
• Murdering your chosen "celebrities" is both against the rules and illegal.
  
• Celebrities are disqualified if they are a celebrity because of their impending death.
  
• All entries must be posted in this thread or PMed to me, they'll then be posted in this thread as one post.
  

 

 

 

 

Just to clarify please:

 

Does this mean that Wikipedia IS allowed as a source?

 

 

Are you able to elaborate (for the purposes of clarification) what is meant by "Celebrities are disqualified if they are a celebrity because of their impending death" I assume that this is there to rule out "my last six months on this planet" bloggers and baby X who is dying of cancer, but what about folk who have been in a coma for years (such as the Jewish Tv Ariel repairman)

 

Thanks

 

No Wikipedia doesn't count. It can be edited by anyone and has been used in the past to fake deaths so erm best not to include it. However there's a very high likelihood the verifying article used by wikipedia would count. Your Snooker Weeklys and This Month in Croquet type of magazines/sites count here, and almost anyone of reasonably notability will get an obit somewhere. Obviously your great granny doesn't qualify because she got put in the under the local newspaper's recently deceased lists that would be bonkers, it has to be in the main body of the site or paper. If your great granny happens to be the old person in Madeupshire and get's a arcticle (even just a few paragraphs in the main section) in the Madeupshire Times she'll qualify.

 

The second part of your query is a bit more difficult and I should have really thought it through more. I think it's best to stick to famous because of their impending death equalling disqualification, long term resistance in the face of probable death raises people's profile enough that they'd be consider "on the fringes of fame". However you need to balance their resistance to illness with whether it's obit-worthy.

 

Also to clear up another issue right to die campaigners will be accepted because they not famous because of their impending death but the campaigning they've done.

 

Hope this clears things up, if anyone wants to update their teams in light of this clarification or just want to update for the hell of it you can do so until entries closing at 1600 on the 31st.