YoungWillz 21,037 Posted July 10 1 minute ago, TQR said: I’m not knocking your opinion, I think the Federalism argument is an interesting one, but it’s not exactly anti-division. It's precisely anti-division. Divisiveness comes from only two sources. One is the rabid intent of some to break up the Union and decare independence from the UK. The other is a Westminster Government who decides how much pocket money Scotland gets and have the power to overrule any Act of the Scottish Parliament and introduce legislation which could revoke any settlement it likes at any time. Federalism is a move to keep the unity of nations while recognising particular parts of the UK have their own issues they are better able to deal with. Why should the London Mayor or the Mayor of Manchester have more power than a sovereign nation? It is more likely to lead to a stronger Union imo, not diminish it. Also, it would allow the PM of England to hang as many fucking flags as he likes on Downing Street, without getting me all het up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted July 10 If you haven't already done your by-election bingo, get Shockat Adam on your list. It's transpired one of his campaign supporters has been charged with terrorism offences, which could put the MP in an untenable position if he knew about links should the supporter be found guilty: https://www.ft.com/content/4045bcd4-2ceb-4f1f-9a90-137c04148f7b "A supporter of the new independent MP for Leicester South was charged on Wednesday with terrorism offences, less than a week after Shockat Adam’s surprise defeat of Labour’s Jonathan Ashworth in a campaign focused heavily on the conflict in Gaza." 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,136 Posted July 10 1 hour ago, YoungWillz said: And I would have been equally outraged. No place for division in the UK, I say. If you still want it to exist. Not at all. I'm pleased when any of the home nations does well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 10 Adults in charge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 10 39 minutes ago, Brad252 said: If you haven't already done your by-election bingo, get Shockat Adam on your list. It's transpired one of his campaign supporters has been charged with terrorism offences, which could put the MP in an untenable position if he knew about links should the supporter be found guilty: https://www.ft.com/content/4045bcd4-2ceb-4f1f-9a90-137c04148f7b "A supporter of the new independent MP for Leicester South was charged on Wednesday with terrorism offences, less than a week after Shockat Adam’s surprise defeat of Labour’s Jonathan Ashworth in a campaign focused heavily on the conflict in Gaza." Someone said on Fri morning they'd be surprised if all the "Gaza" Independents managed to survive the 5 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 10 https://news.sky.com/story/jonathan-ashworth-calls-on-new-leicester-south-mp-to-explain-dealings-with-man-charged-with-terror-offences-13176088 Meanwhile, Mr Adam tweeted a video of Novsarka questioning Mr Ashworth on the campaign trail over his position on the war in Gaza, writing: "Politics is all about answering difficult questions - if you can't stand the heat..." Words that might come back to haunt him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted July 10 23 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Someone said on Fri morning they'd be surprised if all the "Gaza" Independents managed to survive the 5 years. I recall saying that myself in the election thread live coverage, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone more prolific said it on TV somewhere as well. Either scandals on the job will arise, past dodgy behaviour/associations (like the one being reported now) will be uncovered, and/or once the current Gaza conflict is over they'll give up and move on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted July 10 19 minutes ago, Brad252 said: I recall saying that myself in the election thread live coverage, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone more prolific said it on TV somewhere as well. Either scandals on the job will arise, past dodgy behaviour/associations (like the one being reported now) will be uncovered, and/or once the current Gaza conflict is over they'll give up and move on. Or when they realise just how much work goes into being an MP, particularly when you don't have a party apparatus to fall back on. See also, to a certain extent, Reform UK. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,136 Posted July 10 1 hour ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: https://news.sky.com/story/jonathan-ashworth-calls-on-new-leicester-south-mp-to-explain-dealings-with-man-charged-with-terror-offences-13176088 ' A spokesman for Mr Adam said: "Shockat was elected by a diverse coalition of voters in Leicester South. He is focussed on delivering for his constituents, and will not be distracted by sour grapes from a beaten rival whose divisive politics were resoundingly rejected at the ballot box." ' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted July 10 4 minutes ago, Toast said: ' A spokesman for Mr Adam said: "Shockat was elected by a diverse coalition of voters in Leicester South. He is focussed on delivering for his constituents, and will not be distracted by sour grapes from a beaten rival whose divisive politics were resoundingly rejected at the ballot box." ' "Resoundingly rejected" by 979 votes... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted July 12 How long till Braverman defects to reform if she doesn’t become Tory leader. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 12 Contempt for Human Rights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted July 12 1 minute ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Contempt for Human Rights And she is normally one of the more sensible Tories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 830 Posted July 12 Just now, DCI Frank Burnside said: Contempt for Human Rights I mean this in the nicest possible way, because you do actually post some good content, but it's driving me nuts seeing all these twitter links on this thread. I don't want to mute you but we don't need a post every time you see something on twitter. It might do you good to get away from it - it's complete trash as far as social media goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,136 Posted July 12 4 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Contempt for Human Rights She's getting a right old kicking in the comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 445 Posted July 12 Is she the kind of MP who has a problem with wind turbines because they slice the heads off geese or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted July 12 58 minutes ago, Master Obit said: I mean this in the nicest possible way, because you do actually post some good content, but it's driving me nuts seeing all these twitter links on this thread. I don't want to mute you but we don't need a post every time you see something on twitter. It might do you good to get away from it - it's complete trash as far as social media goes. Twitter can be great. Someone is running some cracking Doctor Who polls there. However Twitter does contradict the No Smoke without Fire adage. So if you smell the smoke on Twitter don't share it until you have seen the flamed for yourself. I have been caught like that myself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 830 Posted July 12 46 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: Twitter can be great. Someone is running some cracking Doctor Who polls there. However Twitter does contradict the No Smoke without Fire adage. So if you smell the smoke on Twitter don't share it until you have seen the flamed for yourself. I have been caught like that myself. If people want to peruse twitter, fine. I am not one of them, and I don't think we need this thread turning in to a sea of twitter posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,136 Posted July 12 Twitter isn't "complete trash". It depends what you like and who you follow. I get lots of art and architecture, brilliant photography (some vintage), excellent animal videos (wild and domestic). For politics you can follow Larry the 10 Downing St cat, and now also Jennie, Steve Darling's guide dog. Comedy clips. Susie Dent. Lots of specialist posters eg @ThanatosArchive which offers plenty of death-related gruesomeness. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,387 Posted July 12 I haven't missed Twitter since deactivating my account just over a year ago. Fortunately, I still see all the funny Tweets screenshotted on Threads and places like The Poke. Threads is still a lovely place btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 830 Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Toast said: Twitter isn't "complete trash". It depends what you like and who you follow. I get lots of art and architecture, brilliant photography (some vintage), excellent animal videos (wild and domestic). For politics you can follow Larry the 10 Downing St cat, and now also Jennie, Steve Darling's guide dog. Comedy clips. Susie Dent. Lots of specialist posters eg @ThanatosArchive which offers plenty of death-related gruesomeness. Meh, I'll happily avoid it. Maybe I am just being grumpy, but I'm getting increasingly frustrated at this thread lagging because of all the embedded twitter links. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 13 I see Lizzy suggested raising the retirement age to 80 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/loopy-liz-truss-suggested-increasing-33237163 She should bring it up when she's in Parliament next week. Oh wait..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted July 13 7 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: I see Lizzy suggested raising the retirement age to 80 The South West Norfolk voters wanted it brought down.... to 48, and have set her on course as a pathfinder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted July 13 On 04/09/2023 at 00:04, YoungWillz said: Tucker Carlson (who apparently is from a long family line of CIA agents) pressed Trump in his recent interview as to whether Trump thought he might be killed (under cover of blaming that on the so-called American left). He did that twice, Trump so dumb he didn't even answer the point. To me, that has echoes of JFK's assassination (if you slowly believe that the CIA were somehow involved there). Also, historically I've probably mentioned before that I think Trump is very much a McKinlay type President - another one who got ex-ed. Let's put it this way, there's no way I'm picking him to survive for the Inverse DP next year. Anyone remember this? If you are going to have a Second Amendment, get your target practice in. Piss poor attempt at shooting Trump today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
