John "요한" Sulu 437 Posted December 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? I list them by chronological birth date order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 708 Posted December 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? I do not rank mine in no particular order 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,197 Posted December 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? + how does the "committee" ranks the official picks ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimreaper 831 Posted December 24, 2024 20 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? Personally, I go with likelihood of dying. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 530 Posted December 24, 2024 2 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said: + how does the "committee" ranks the official picks ? I believe they rank 1-50 with the likelihood of them dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 530 Posted December 25, 2024 10 hours ago, Steve said: @livingbygrace thanks for your kind comment. I did loads of editing too before deciding on this final draft. It's good though imho to have plenty to choose from than not enough. Good luck though on your final selections but you will do fab I'm sure. Hopefully.. I guess I feel I have a good possibility that 2025 can only go up from 2024 considering I only got 8 hits this past year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,628 Posted December 26, 2024 On 24/12/2024 at 16:41, Lafaucheuse said: + how does the "committee" ranks the official picks ? I have only been around here for a few years, so I can't be sure of this. Some of the older members may be able to confirm. I think the "committee" meets up in a pub on December 31st, and drunkenly scrawls down names on whatever they can find. At approximately 11.30pm they pick 50 of them, ranking them on how legible the names are on the beer-mats.. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 603 Posted December 26, 2024 My 2024 Shadow list was a little bit of a letdown with just 12 deaths, still well short of my 2020 record of 24. Plenty of new blood for 2025 might be able to give my Shadow list a much needed boost. Buzz Aldrin Stanley Baxter Tim Bilton Hans Blix Tom Brokaw Mel Brooks Leslie Caron Raul Castro Noam Chomsky Roberta Flack Sandy Gall Alan Greenspan Gene Hackman Chris Hoy Sophie Kinsella Cleo Laine Jean-Marie Le Pen June Lockhart Sophia Loren Imelda Marcos Steve McMichael Lee Meriwether Mahathir Mohamad Desmond Morris Sam Neill Willie Nelson Linda Nolan Yoko Ono Isabel Peron Larry Pressler Esther Rantzen Sonny Rollins Linda Ronstadt Eva Marie Saint Prunella Scales Ian Smith Nigel Starmer-Smith Michael Tilson Thomas Ted Turner Frankie Valli James Van Der Beek Dick Van Dyke William H. Webster Harvey Weinstein James Whale Bruce Willis Emily Willis Joanne Woodward Peter Yarrow Miloš Zeman Subs: Mahmoud Abbas Denis Law Theo Burrell Tom Lehrer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,222 Posted December 26, 2024 Before I submit my 2025 shadowlist, what are some opinions on it? If this was the 2025 DL, would you be happy with it? Who is there who shouldn't be and who is missing who shouldn't be? 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Noam Chomsky 3. Stanley Baxter 4. Nigel Starmer-Smith 5. Jean-Marie Le Pen 6. Cleo Laine 7. Esther Rantzen 8. Pete Murray 9. Mahathir Mohamad 10. Don King 11. Joanne Woodward 12. James Watson 13. Yoko Ono 14. Roberta Flack 15. Stuart Hall 16. Imelda Marcos 17. Eva Marie Saint 18. Joan Plowright 19. Dennis Skinner 20. Buzz Aldrin 21. Tippi Hedren 22. Tom Brokaw 23. Leo Beenhakker 24. Julie Goodyear 25. Dick Van Dyke 26. Sonny Rollins 27. Leontyne Price 28. Rex Williams 29. Len Deighton 30. Douglas Hurd 31. Raul Castro 32. John Williams 33. Bernadette Chirac 34. Jean Marsh 35. Bill Cosby 36. Vanessa Redgrave 37. Jack Nicholson 38. Ted Turner 39. James Ivory 40. Denis Law 41. Norman Tebbit 42. Michael York 43. Joe Pesci 44. Harvey Weinstein 45. Robert Duvall 46. Liza Minnelli 47. Geoffrey Boycott 48. Prunella Scales 49. Gene Hackman 50. Chris Rea 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 708 Posted December 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Daredevil said: Before I submit my 2025 shadowlist, what are some opinions on it? If this was the 2025 DL, would you be happy with it? Who is there who shouldn't be and who is missing who shouldn't be? 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Noam Chomsky 3. Stanley Baxter 4. Nigel Starmer-Smith 5. Jean-Marie Le Pen 6. Cleo Laine 7. Esther Rantzen 8. Pete Murray 9. Mahathir Mohamad 10. Don King 11. Joanne Woodward 12. James Watson 13. Yoko Ono 14. Roberta Flack 15. Stuart Hall 16. Imelda Marcos 17. Eva Marie Saint 18. Joan Plowright 19. Dennis Skinner 20. Buzz Aldrin 21. Tippi Hedren 22. Tom Brokaw 23. Leo Beenhakker 24. Julie Goodyear 25. Dick Van Dyke 26. Sonny Rollins 27. Leontyne Price 28. Patricia Routledge 29. Len Deighton 30. Douglas Hurd 31. Raul Castro 32. John Williams 33. Bernadette Chirac 34. Jean Marsh 35. Bill Cosby 36. Vanessa Redgrave 37. Jack Nicholson 38. Rex Williams 39. James Ivory 40. Denis Law 41. Norman Tebbit 42. Michael York 43. Joe Pesci 44. Harvey Weinstein 45. Robert Duvall 46. Liza Minnelli 47. Geoffrey Boycott 48. Prunella Scales 49. Gene Hackman 50. Chris Rea I really like your list @The Daredevil but personally I would drop Patricia Routledge as she seems in too good health for 2025. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,222 Posted December 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, Steve said: I really like your list @The Daredevil but personally I would drop Patricia Routledge as she seems in too good health for 2025. Good idea; Rex Williams will hence bounce up to her position, and Ted Turner will be added as the new no. 38. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 708 Posted December 26, 2024 Just now, The Daredevil said: Good idea; Rex Williams will hence bounce up to her position, and Ted Turner will be added as the new no. 38. Or Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as a possibility? Ian Smith (Harold Bishop in Neighbours)? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,222 Posted December 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Steve said: Or Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as a possibility? Ian Smith (Harold Bishop in Neighbours)? Ian Smith should not be famous enough for list in my mind (although will get BBC obit for sure). Khamenei definitely famous enough but I can see him going into 2026. Clint Eastwood and Brigitte Bardot were two last minute take aways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 708 Posted December 26, 2024 1 minute ago, The Daredevil said: Ian Smith should not be famous enough for list in my mind (although will get BBC obit for sure). Khamenei definitely famous enough but I can see him going into 2026. Clint Eastwood and Brigitte Bardot were two last minute take aways. I like your inclusion of Chris Rea as a number 50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,222 Posted December 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Steve said: I like your inclusion of Chris Rea as a number 50 Yes, nobody ever hears anything about him nowadays, and that plus his unfortunate health history... Rea also reminds me of Johnny Hallyday (died at 74!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobytomi 154 Posted December 26, 2024 My 2025 Shadow list: 1) Jean-Marie Le Pen 2) Joanne Woodward 3) Priscilla Pointer 4) Bill Clinton 5) Torsten Wiesel 6) Raul Castro 7) Cleo Laine 8) Noam Chomsky 9) Alan Greenspan 10) Mahathir Mohamad 11) William H. Webster 12) Rosemary Harris 13) Maurice R. Greenberg 14) Tomiichi Murayama 15) Chen Ning-Yang 16) John Astin 17) Empress Michiko 18) Violeta Chamorro 19) Stanley Baxter 20) Marianne Koch 21) Nigel-Starmer Smith 22) Oscar Wyatt 23) Rex Williams 24) Lisa Lu 25) Jack Nicholson 26) Woody Woodbury 27) Imelda Marcos 28) Steve McMichael 29) Jim Lovell 30) Fauja Singh 31) James Ivory 32) Buzz Aldrin 33) Franca Pilla 34) Agnes Keleti 35) Vernon L. Smith 36) Jacqueline White 37) Gene Hackman 38) Douglas Hurd 39) Lee Grant 40) Gerard Kennedy 41) Rudolph A. Marcus 42) Frank Fontaine (actor born 1936) 43) Gene Shalit 44) Gerald Holton 45) Josef Fritzl 46) Sidney Cooke 47) Will Hutchins 48) Sister Jean 49) György Kurtág 50) Jiro Ono Subs: * Marion Ross * Sandy Gall * Phil Collins * Alexander Mitta * Marianne Bernadotte Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 530 Posted December 26, 2024 I have a few people that are on my list that I am still debating on. They seem to be wasted picks because they do not seem to be in any real danger, except for their age. But a part of me does not want to take the chance of having them as a miss because they are people that are kind of iconic for me. At the same time I think to keep them on am I missing out on others that might be more of a sure hit for the year.Mainly.. Marion Ross 96 Tina Louise 90 Julie Andrews 89 Barbra Eden 93 I think in the end I am just going to keep them.. But if the Pope, Frankie Vallie or Rupert Murdock dies this year I am going to kick myself 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
La Tombe 378 Posted December 27, 2024 My Shadow Deathlist for 2025 : - Eva Marie Saint (1924) - Dick Van Dyke (1925) - David Attenborough (1926) - Abdoulaye Wade (1926) - Mel Brooks (1926) - Jim Lovell (1928) - Noam Chomsky (1928) - Frank Gehry (1929) - Vera Miles (1929) - Berry Gordy (1929) - Tippi Hedren (1930) - Buzz Aldrin (1930) - Gene Hackman (1930) - Robert Wagner (1930) - Joanne Woodward (1930) - Clive Revill (1930) - Clint Eastwood (1930) - Sonny Rollins (1930) - Caroll Baker (1931) - Raul Castro (1931) - Angie Dickinson (1931) - John Williams (1932) - Valentino (1932) - Ellen Burstyn (1932) - Petula Clark (1932) - Yoko Ono (1933) - Paul Biya (1933) - Joan Collins (1933) - Michael Caine (1933) - Akihito of Japan (1933) - Judi Dench (1934) - Shirley MacLaine (1934) - Giorgio Armani (1934) - Julian Glover (1935) - Julie Andrews (1935) - Norman Foster (1935) - Robert Redford (1936) - Ursula Andress (1936) - Renzo Piano (1937) - David Hockney (1937) - King Harald 5 of Norway (1937) - Vanessa Redgrave (1937) - George Lazemby (1939) - John Cleese (1939) - Denis Law (1940) - Daniel Baremboim (1942) - David Bradley (1942) - Timothy Dalton (1946) - Sam Neill (1947) - Bruce Willis (1955) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimreaper 831 Posted December 27, 2024 This might be a dumb question, but I notice some users are able to post their shadow lists show that it appears each time they comment. What is it they are doing that allows them to do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,362 Posted December 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, dimreaper said: This might be a dumb question, but I notice some users are able to post their shadow lists show that it appears each time they comment. What is it they are doing that allows them to do this? I assume you mean the signature, which can be accessed and edited via the "signature" tab in account settings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,305 Posted December 27, 2024 Thankfully we are also able to hide people's signatures if they are pisstakingly long. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThereWillBeDeaths7 787 Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2023 at 18:33, ThereWillBeDeaths7 said: 2. André Hissink 3. Ellis Brandon 4. Dries van Agt 9. Kees Rijvers 13. Jan Reehorst 15. Johan Visser (d. 1997) 17. Harry Dikmans 20. Tonke Dragt 23. Erwin Nypels 26. Pol de Beer 49. Elise Boot (d. 2023) While I've just finished preparing my Dutch shadowlist for next year, the final score for my 2024 list seems to be 9 hits. Not too bad, but aiming for a higher total of 12-14 for 2025! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zsa Zsa's leg 916 Posted December 29, 2024 This was probably the hardest list to make because there was basically no room for new additions, but too many low hanging fruit to drop from the list! Here's my best shot for 2025: 1. Dick Van Dyke (100) 2. Mel Brooks (99) 3. Joanne Woodward (95) 4. Alan Greenspan (99) 5. David Attenborough (99) 6. Pope Francis (89) 7. Noam Chomsky (97) 8. Buzz Aldrin (95) 9. Willie Nelson (92) 10. Louis Farrakhan (92) 11. Warren Buffett (95) 12. Robert Wagner (95) 13. Tippi Hedren (95) 14. Gene Hackman (95) 15. Jean-Marie Le Pen (97) 16. George Soros (95) 17. William Shatner (94) 18. Russell M. Nelson (101) 19. Hans Blix (97) 20. Dan Rather (94) 21. Randy Moss (48) 22. Mahathir Mohamad (100) 23. Rupert Murdoch (94) 24. Roberta Flack (88) 25. Yoko Ono (92) 26. Ted Turner (87) 27. Violeta Chamorro (96) 28. Katherine Jackson (95) 29. Sonny Rollins (95) 30. Tom Brokaw (85) 31. Abdoulaye Wade (99) 32. Don King (94) 33. Asma Al-Assad (49) 34. Rosemary Harris (98) 35. Imelda Marcos (96) 36. Raul Castro (94) 37. Paul Biya (92) 38. Berry Gordy, Jr. (96) 39. William Webster (101) 40. Steve McMichael (68) 41. Mike Ditka (86) 42. Tomiichi Murayama (101) 43. Cecile Richards (68) 44. Peter Yarrow (87) 45. Jose Mujica (90) 46. June Squibb (96) 47. James Watson (97) 48. Frankie Valli (91) 49. Eva Marie Saint (101) 50. Harvey Weinstein (73) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThereWillBeDeaths7 787 Posted December 29, 2024 My regular shadowlist for 2025: 1. Dick van Dyke 2. David Attenborough 3. Pope Francis 4. José Mujica 5. Buzz Aldrin 6. Gene Hackman 7. Prunella Scales 8. Roberta Flack 9. Cleo Laine 10. Jean Marie Le Pen 11. Sonny Rollins 12. Eva Marie Saint 13. Noam Chomsky 14. Denis Law 15. Douglas Hurd 16. Dennis Skinner 17. Sandy Gall 18. Alan Greenspan 19. Yoko Ono 20. Esther Rantzen 21. Tippi Hedren 22. Joanne Woodward 23. Clint Eastwood 24. Pete Murray 25. Earl of Elgin 26. Sophie Kinsella 27. Michael York 28. Brian Wilson 29. Eddie Jordan 30. David Lynch 31. Harvey Weinstein 32. Norman Tebbit 33. Rupert Murdoch 34. Nigel Starmer-Smith 35. Willie Nelson 36. Stanley Baxter 37. Mel Brooks 38. Jim Lovell 39. Steve McMichael 40. Julie Goodyear 41. Tom Baker 42. Chris Hoy 43. Sam Neill 44. Brigitte Bardot 45. Bruce Willis 46. Peter Yarrow 47. Michael Caine 48. James Whale 49. King Charles III of the United Kingdom 50. Raul Castro subs Brian Blessed Robert Duvall King Albert II of Belgium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThereWillBeDeaths7 787 Posted December 29, 2024 And my Dutch shadowlist for 2025: 1. George Kooymans 2. Bas van Toor 3. Frits Bolkestein 4. Rob de Nijs 5. Leo Beenhakker 6. Ernst Daniël Smid 7. Martin Gaus 8. Herman Koch 9. Hans van den Broek 10. Bas de Gaay Fortman 11. Joost Prinsen 12. Rob Bolland 13. Mirjam Bolle-Levie 14. Loretta Schrijver 15. Petra Laseur 16. Selma van de Perre 17. Jerney Kaagman 18. Hans Wiegel 19. Marie Blommaart 20. Ton van Baars 21. Frits Korthals Altes 22. Aad van Toor 23. Piet de Visser 24. Johan Remkes 25. Arie den Hartog 26. Peter Molthoff 27. Albert Buunk 28. Lee Towers 29. Maarten van Rossem 30. André Mensert Spaanderman 31. Herman Finkers 32. Jacob Korevaar 33. Pieter van Vollenhoven 34. Rita Kok 35. Prinses Irene der Nederlanden 36. Jan van Stuijvenberg 37. Michel van Hulten 38. Wim van Eekelen 39. Tanja Koen 40. Piet Kamerman 41. Jan Achterstraat 42. Hans Smolders 43. Agnes Kamerlingh Onnes-barones van Dedem 44. Jan van Hooff 45. Teun Struycken (1936) 46. Herman Hertzberger 47. Jan Terlouw 48. Paul van Gorcum 49. Henk van der Bijl 50. Marijke Hoving subs: Laurens Jan Brinkhorst Dieuwertje Blok Geert Wilders 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
